S2 Ep. 21 The History of Christadelphian Bible Prophecy with Zinnia episode artwork

EPISODE · Mar 9, 2025 · 1H 48M

S2 Ep. 21 The History of Christadelphian Bible Prophecy with Zinnia

from The Life After Leaving Podcast: An Ex-Christadelphian Podcast · host lifeafterleavingpodcast

In today’s episode, Zinnia does a deep dive on the history of Christadelphian “prophecies” and apocalyptic predictions! She starts with the origins of the “prophetic arithmetic” methods by a rather infamous American in the 1840’s, follows the early prophecies by John Thomas and Robert Roberts, and leads into conversations around prophecies, high control groups, and cognitive dissonance in the modern era. Ready to learn some Christadelphian history? Let's get into it! Listener Discretion Advised. Resources and References: ⁠Toy Story (1995) “The Claw”⁠ ⁠William Miller and the Great Disappointment⁠ ⁠The Great Disappointment of William Miller⁠ ⁠Millerism⁠ ⁠The Seekers⁠ ⁠The Theory of Cognitive Dissonance and the book “When Prophecy Fails”⁠ ⁠Wikipedia: History of the Seventh-day Adventists Church⁠ More Millerite History: ⁠https://st.network/analysis/top/the-second-coming-files-a-2000-year-investigation-part-vii-adventism-after-the-great-disappointment-adventist.html⁠ ⁠https://lineagejourney.com/read/the-advent-movement-beyond-the-great-disappointment/⁠ ⁠The Disappointed: Millerite Adventists and Their “New World”⁠ ⁠The Advent Movement Beyond the Great Disappointment⁠ ⁠The Christadelphian Magazine/ The Ambassador of the Coming Age⁠: January 1866, October 1893, May 1893, October 1897  ⁠John Thomas: His Friends & His Faith by Peter Hemingray⁠ ⁠Joseph Marsh⁠ Eureka: An Exposition of the Apocalypse by John Thomas ⁠https://www.antipas.org/pdf_files/eureka_vol_1_lg.pdf⁠ ⁠https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka:_An_Exposition_of_the_Apocalypse⁠ ⁠Elpis Israel, 7th edition 1897⁠ ⁠Elpis Israel with Publishers Comments (2000)⁠ ⁠“My Days and My Ways” by Robert Roberts⁠ ⁠“Robert Roberts: A Study of Life and Character” by Islip Collyer⁠ ⁠Whose line is it anyways⁠ “The show where everything’s made up and the points don’t matter” ⁠Waiting for Godot by Samuel Beckett⁠ ⁠Christendom Astray by Robert Roberts⁠ (including Chapter 16 and the prophecy on page 271) ⁠Wikipedia: ‘Christendom Astray from the Bible”⁠ “In the 1951 edition published by ⁠The Christadelphian⁠ Office, chapter 16 entitled 'Evidence that the End is Near' was deleted because the start of the millennium age did not start as predicted by 1910.” ⁠“What They Said Would Happen: A Review of Christadelphians Predictions”⁠ by John Hutchinson, January 2000  ⁠Emperor Nicholas I⁠ ⁠The Crimean War⁠ ⁠A Timeline of the Crimean War⁠ ⁠The Life of John Thomas (1985)⁠ The Herald of the Kingdom and Age to Come, September 1861. Quote recorded in “The Life of John Thomas” ⁠The Princess Bride (1987)⁠ “Have fun storming the castle!” ⁠World War I Timeline⁠ ⁠Scooby Doo⁠ ⁠Godzilla⁠ ⁠Keep Sweet: Pray and Obey (Netflix)⁠ ⁠Clifford the Big Red Dog⁠ The Bible, Matthew 24:34:  "Verily I say unto you, this generation shall not pass till all these things be fulfilled" ⁠Willy Wonka Golden Ticket⁠ ⁠Finding Nemo (2003)⁠ ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ1KDf3O-qU⁠ ⁠Dictionary.com definition of a Christadelphian⁠: a member of a Christian millenarian sect founded in the US about 1848, holding that only the just will enter eternal life, that the wicked will be annihilated, and that the ignorant, the unconverted, and infants will not be raised from the dead ⁠Millenarianism⁠: “Millenarianism is the belief by a religious, social, or political group or movement in a coming fundamental transformation of society, after which "all things will be changed" ⁠Apocalypticism⁠: “Apocalypticism is the religious belief that the end of the world is imminent, even within one's own lifetime” ⁠Doomsday Cult⁠: “A doomsday cult is a cult that believes in apocalypticism and millenarianism” ⁠Instagram: video by abbiesr⁠

In today’s episode, Zinnia does a deep dive on the history of Christadelphian “prophecies” and apocalyptic predictions! She starts with the origins of the “prophetic arithmetic” methods by a rather infamous American in the 1840’s, follows the early prophecies by John Thomas and Robert Roberts, and leads into conversations around prophecies, high control groups, and cognitive dissonance in the modern era. Ready to learn some Christadelphian history? Let's get into it! Listener Discretion Advised. Resources and References: ⁠Toy Story (1995) “The Claw”⁠ ⁠William Miller and the Great Disappointment⁠ ⁠The Great Disappointment of William Miller⁠ ⁠Millerism⁠ ⁠The Seekers⁠ ⁠The Theory of Cognitive Dissonance and the book “When Prophecy Fails”⁠ ⁠Wikipedia: History of the Seventh-day Adventists Church⁠ More Millerite History: ⁠https://st.network/analysis/top/the-second-coming-files-a-2000-year-investigation-part-vii-adventism-after-the-great-disappointment-adventist.html⁠ ⁠https://lineagejourney.com/read/the-advent-movement-beyond-the-great-disappointment/⁠ ⁠The Disappointed: Millerite Adventists and Their “New World”⁠ ⁠The Advent Movement Beyond the Great Disappointment⁠ ⁠The Christadelphian Magazine/ The Ambassador of the Coming Age⁠: January 1866, October 1893, May 1893, October 1897  ⁠John Thomas: His Friends & His Faith by Peter Hemingray⁠ ⁠Joseph Marsh⁠ Eureka: An Exposition of the Apocalypse by John Thomas ⁠https://www.antipas.org/pdf_files/eureka_vol_1_lg.pdf⁠ ⁠https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka:_An_Exposition_of_the_Apocalypse⁠ ⁠Elpis Israel, 7th edition 1897⁠ ⁠Elpis Israel with Publishers Comments (2000)⁠ ⁠“My Days and My Ways” by Robert Roberts⁠ ⁠“Robert Roberts: A Study of Life and Character” by Islip Collyer⁠ ⁠Whose line is it anyways⁠ “The show where everything’s made up and the points don’t matter” ⁠Waiting for Godot by Samuel Beckett⁠ ⁠Christendom Astray by Robert Roberts⁠ (including Chapter 16 and the prophecy on page 271) ⁠Wikipedia: ‘Christendom Astray from the Bible”⁠ “In the 1951 edition published by ⁠The Christadelphian⁠ Office, chapter 16 entitled 'Evidence that the End is Near' was deleted because the start of the millennium age did not start as predicted by 1910.” ⁠“What They Said Would Happen: A Review of Christadelphians Predictions”⁠ by John Hutchinson, January 2000  ⁠Emperor Nicholas I⁠ ⁠The Crimean War⁠ ⁠A Timeline of the Crimean War⁠ ⁠The Life of John Thomas (1985)⁠ The Herald of the Kingdom and Age to Come, September 1861. Quote recorded in “The Life of John Thomas” ⁠The Princess Bride (1987)⁠ “Have fun storming the castle!” ⁠World War I Timeline⁠ ⁠Scooby Doo⁠ ⁠Godzilla⁠ ⁠Keep Sweet: Pray and Obey (Netflix)⁠ ⁠Clifford the Big Red Dog⁠ The Bible, Matthew 24:34:  "Verily I say unto you, this generation shall not pass till all these things be fulfilled" ⁠Willy Wonka Golden Ticket⁠ ⁠Finding Nemo (2003)⁠ ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ1KDf3O-qU⁠ ⁠Dictionary.com definition of a Christadelphian⁠: a member of a Christian millenarian sect founded in the US about 1848, holding that only the just will enter eternal life, that the wicked will be annihilated, and that the ignorant, the unconverted, and infants will not be raised from the dead ⁠Millenarianism⁠: “Millenarianism is the belief by a religious, social, or political group or movement in a coming fundamental transformation of society, after which "all things will be changed" ⁠Apocalypticism⁠: “Apocalypticism is the religious belief that the end of the world is imminent, even within one's own lifetime” ⁠Doomsday Cult⁠: “A doomsday cult is a cult that believes in apocalypticism and millenarianism” ⁠Instagram: video by abbiesr⁠

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