S9 Ep 9: The Pinball Machine
AJC journalists Bill Rankin and Tamar Hallerman look at how the Fulton County DA's office is dealing with a flurry of efforts to delay or avoid testifying before the special grand jury, and whether these tactics are having any effect.
Episode 9 of the Breakdown podcast, hosted by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, titled "S9 Ep 9: The Pinball Machine" was published on July 14, 2025 and runs 43 minutes.
July 14, 2025 ·43m · Breakdown
Summary
AJC journalists Bill Rankin and Tamar Hallerman focus on former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani's grand jury appearance and U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham's attempts to avoid his testimony by the Fulton County special purpose grand jury of former President Donald Trump and his allies for what happened in Georgia after the 2020 presidential election. Giuliani, who has been Trump's personal lawyer, showed up at the Fulton courthouse to testify before the grand jury after his lawyers had tried unsuccessfully to postpone it. Graham, who placed two phone calls to the Secretary of State's office in the weeks after the election, was scheduled to testify before the special grand jury on Tuesday. But the federal appeals court in Atlanta - the fifth court so far to be involved in Graham's case - stepped in two days before the South Carolina senator was to appear and delayed his appearance. Rankin and Hallerman also cover the dustup between Gov. Brian Kemp and the Fulton District Attorney's Office and decisions by judges in Colorado and New Mexico ordering two other lawyers who represented the Trump campaign to come to Atlanta and testify before the grand jury. You can download the Breakdown podcast from Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Stitcher or your favorite podcasting platform. You can also stream it on your computer from ajc.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices