Said Dawlabani on Co-Creating the Third Attractor

Across the world, a new conversation is emerging—a conversation about the future of civilization itself.As our existing systems reach their limits, we face an urgent crossroads: one path leads toward collapse, another toward increasing control and centralization. But a growing chorus of thinkers, visionaries, and cultural pioneers are pointing to a third possibility—a conscious, regenerative, and life-affirming future.This series of conversations explores that possibility.While we draw on the term Third Attractor—popularized by Daniel Schmachtenberger—this vision is part of a larger movement of aligned ideas: Regenerative Civilization, Metamodern Society, Game B, The More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know Is Possible, Planetary Civilization, The Integral Age, The Great Transition, Symbiotic Civilization, The Noosphere, Civilizational Awakening, and the Second Renaissance.Each points toward a future rooted in wholeness, complexity, interconnection, and evolution.Said Elias Dawlabani is a human evolution theorist and a leading authority on applying stage development to large-scale social and economic change. He is the author of three books: MEMEnomics (2013), which introduced his model of cultural economics; The Light of Ishtar (2021), a mythic memoir co-written with his wife Elza Maalouf; and Second Sapiens (2024), a visionary roadmap for the future of humanity in the age of climate change and the Anthropocene.Dawlabani is the founder of The MEMEnomics Group, dedicated to advancing regenerative economics, and cofounder of the Center for Human Emergence Middle East, a think tank addressing sociopolitical issues through cultural stage development. A close associate of Don Beck, co-creator of Spiral Dynamics, he has given keynote talks worldwide on sustainable economics and leadership. His work has been translated into over 20 languages, cited in academic research, and featured in Newsweek, Leader to Leader, The Christian Science Monitor, NPR, and more.Daniela Bomatter, originally from Switzerland, is a former Software Engineer who progressed into various leadership roles, ultimately serving as the CEO of SwissEnergy at the Federal Office of Energy in Switzerland.Daniela Bomatter is the co-founder of Manifest Nirvana and a senior practitioner of Evolutionary Enlightenment. She was a long-term student of Andrew Cohen and was closely studying, working and living with him from 2016 to 2025.She lives in Tiruvannamalai, India, in a Small Sustainable Village (https://www.giamantraglobalvillage.com/) where she runs the Manifest Nirvana Ashram, where the in person - events of Manifest Nirvana happen. (https://www.manifest-nirvana.com , #evolutionarynun , https://www.viratya.com )