EPISODE · Sep 23, 2020 · 52 MIN
Starting a SaaS: 3 Years to First Customers, Then 70 Countries
from The SaaS Podcast - AI, Growth & Product-Market Fit for SaaS Founders · host Omer Khan
Three PhDs in Greece spent two years building a self-funded SaaS product in a bunker. When they emerged, nobody wanted to buy it. It took another full year before they found their first customers. Starting a SaaS during Greece's worst financial crisis meant European prospects questioned whether the company would survive. Panos Siozos reveals how LearnWorlds broke through by targeting the US market where decisions took 4-5 days instead of 4-5 weeks, manually creating free trials for 3.5 years, and doing unscalable code customizations for the first 100 customers. Those customers taught them e-commerce lessons no PhD could - and starting a SaaS finally started paying off. He shares how COVID accelerated growth to 15% month-over-month, why building a SaaS in a bunker cost them a year of learning, and why personal availability at 2 AM builds more trust than polished marketing when starting a SaaS. Key Lessons 🎯 Target the US market early when starting a SaaS: LearnWorlds wasted months on European customers who took 4-5 weeks to decide. US customers made decisions in 4-5 days and cared about product quality. 💰 Co-founders funding each other enables self-funded SaaS survival: Two founders kept day jobs and paid the third's salary for over two years, keeping the product alive without outside investment. 📉 Building in a bunker for 2 years costs learning when starting a SaaS: Panos admits they should have shown the product to customers much earlier. PhD expertise did not teach e-commerce and selling. 🛠️ Do unscalable customizations until your bootstrapped SaaS hits 100 customers: LearnWorlds modified code in individual instances. The merge nightmares were worth the product lessons from real users. 🤝 Personal availability builds trust when starting a SaaS: Panos gave customers his personal phone number and took calls at 2-3 AM for US time zones. A four-person team appearing "always on" converted skeptical prospects. Chapters Introduction Panos' quote - getting better every single day What LearnWorlds does - Shopify for online courses Multi-seven-figure business, bootstrapped with 1M euro raised 10 years of PhD research before starting a SaaS business Three co-founders in a bunker - two years building the platform Two founders paid the third's salary from day jobs Two years without talking to customers - the bunker mistake Launching into Greece's financial crisis Pivoting to the US market where decisions take 4-5 days One year to find first customers after launch Overcoming objections - product love vs. startup skepticism Personal phone numbers and 2 AM support calls Manual trial creation for 3.5 years Unscalable customizations for the first 100 customers COVID as an accelerator - 15% month-over-month growth Lightning round Where to find Panos and LearnWorlds Resources Full show notes: https://saasclub.io/264 Join 5,000+ SaaS founders: https://saasclub.io/email
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Three PhDs in Greece spent two years building a self-funded SaaS product in a bunker. When they emerged, nobody wanted to buy it. It took another full year before they found their first customers. Starting a SaaS during Greece's worst financial crisis meant European prospects questioned whether the company would survive. Panos Siozos reveals how LearnWorlds broke through by targeting the US market where decisions took 4-5 days instead of 4-5 weeks, manually creating free trials for 3.5 years, and doing unscalable code customizations for the first 100 customers. Those customers taught them e-commerce lessons no PhD could - and starting a SaaS finally started paying off. He shares how COVID accelerated growth to 15% month-over-month, why building a SaaS in a bunker cost them a year of learning, and why personal availability at 2 AM builds more trust than polished marketing when starting a SaaS. Key Lessons 🎯 Target the US market early when starting a SaaS: LearnWorlds wasted months on European customers who took 4-5 weeks to decide. US customers made decisions in 4-5 days and cared about product quality. 💰 Co-founders funding each other enables self-funded SaaS survival: Two founders kept day jobs and paid the third's salary for over two years, keeping the product alive without outside investment. 📉 Building in a bunker for 2 years costs learning when starting a SaaS: Panos admits they should have shown the product to customers much earlier. PhD expertise did not teach e-commerce and selling. 🛠️ Do unscalable customizations until your bootstrapped SaaS hits 100 customers: LearnWorlds modified code in individual instances. The merge nightmares were worth the product lessons from real users. 🤝 Personal availability builds trust when starting a SaaS: Panos gave customers his personal phone number and took calls at 2-3 AM for US time zones. A four-person team appearing "always on" converted skeptical prospects. Chapters Introduction Panos' quote - getting better every single day What LearnWorlds does - Shopify for online courses Multi-seven-figure business, bootstrapped with 1M euro raised 10 years of PhD research before starting a SaaS business Three co-founders in a bunker - two years building the platform Two founders paid the third's salary from day jobs Two years without talking to customers - the bunker mistake Launching into Greece's financial crisis Pivoting to the US market where decisions take 4-5 days One year to find first customers after launch Overcoming objections - product love vs. startup skepticism Personal phone numbers and 2 AM support calls Manual trial creation for 3.5 years Unscalable customizations for the first 100 customers COVID as an accelerator - 15% month-over-month growth Lightning round Where to find Panos and LearnWorlds Resources Full show notes: https://saasclub.io/264 Join 5,000+ SaaS founders: https://saasclub.io/email
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