EPISODE · May 20, 2026 · 1H 11M
Staying Human in an AI World w/ Jay Kim
from PostEverything · host Brad Edwards and John Houmes
Brad Edwards sits down with Jay Kim, pastor of Westgate Church in Silicon Valley and author of Analog Church, to discuss the spiritual implications of artificial intelligence—and why church leaders urgently need a response. Key points: • The difference between attention economy (social media) and attachment economy (AI) • Why AI companions create relational attachment in ways social media never could • How tech workers in Silicon Valley are experiencing spiritual crisis over AI displacement • Marshall McLuhan's theory: When pushed to extremes, technology inverts on itself • The spiritual discipline of sober-mindedness in an age of endless stimulation • Why the church must become "weird" again to counter digital culture • Practical formation practices to help your congregation think deeply (not just consume) • How pastors can help disciples navigate vocational uncertainty in tech fields • The role of curiosity and meandering as countercultural spiritual practices Themes: • Spiritual formation in digital age • AI and human relationships • Church in Silicon Valley • Pastoral leadership in tech cities • Technology ethics and faith Key words: AI companion, Spiritual formation, Church leadership, Discipleship, Silicon Valley, Artificial intelligence, Technology ethics, Sober-mindedness, Pastoral care, Formation practices, Jay Kim, PostEverything, Digital culture, Embodied community, Tech workers CHAPTERS: 🎙️ Welcome to Post Everything — 00:00 👋 John Introduces Jay Kim — 01:05 💬 Brad Welcomes Jay — 02:17 📖 Analog Church's Cosmic Irony — 04:00 🏘️ Last In-Person Gathering — 05:00 😷 Pandemic Forces Publishing Decision — 06:15 ⛪ Church Growth Model Problem — 10:44 💻 Digital Cannot Replace Embodied — 12:19 📡 Technology Shapes What's Possible — 14:30 🤖 AI Isn't Built, but Grown — 15:26 ⚡ Efficiency Over Effortful Growth — 19:05 👁️ The Attention Economy Trap — 21:22 💔 Enter the Attachment Economy — 23:18 🧠 AI Creates Relational Bond — 25:27 ❓ Is This Really Human? — 27:12 🚨 Training Your Own Replacement — 29:36 🙏 Lament Before Theological Hope — 33:03 🤔 Curiosity as Vocational Superpower — 35:03 📺 Technology Inverts at Extremes — 39:08 🧠 Brain Losing Cognitive Capacity — 42:44 ⛪ The Church Must Be Weird — 53:26 🌐 Silicon Valley Exports Culture Worldwide — 57:28
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Brad Edwards sits down with Jay Kim, pastor of Westgate Church in Silicon Valley and author of Analog Church, to discuss the spiritual implications of artificial intelligence—and why church leaders urgently need a response. Key points: • The difference between attention economy (social media) and attachment economy (AI) • Why AI companions create relational attachment in ways social media never could • How tech workers in Silicon Valley are experiencing spiritual crisis over AI displacement • Marshall McLuhan's theory: When pushed to extremes, technology inverts on itself • The spiritual discipline of sober-mindedness in an age of endless stimulation • Why the church must become "weird" again to counter digital culture • Practical formation practices to help your congregation think deeply (not just consume) • How pastors can help disciples navigate vocational uncertainty in tech fields • The role of curiosity and meandering as countercultural spiritual practices Themes: • Spiritual formation in digital age • AI and human relationships • Church in Silicon Valley • Pastoral leadership in tech cities • Technology ethics and faith Key words: AI companion, Spiritual formation, Church leadership, Discipleship, Silicon Valley, Artificial intelligence, Technology ethics, Sober-mindedness, Pastoral care, Formation practices, Jay Kim, PostEverything, Digital culture, Embodied community, Tech workers CHAPTERS: 🎙️ Welcome to Post Everything — 00:00 👋 John Introduces Jay Kim — 01:05 💬 Brad Welcomes Jay — 02:17 📖 Analog Church's Cosmic Irony — 04:00 🏘️ Last In-Person Gathering — 05:00 😷 Pandemic Forces Publishing Decision — 06:15 ⛪ Church Growth Model Problem — 10:44 💻 Digital Cannot Replace Embodied — 12:19 📡 Technology Shapes What's Possible — 14:30 🤖 AI Isn't Built, but Grown — 15:26 ⚡ Efficiency Over Effortful Growth — 19:05 👁️ The Attention Economy Trap — 21:22 💔 Enter the Attachment Economy — 23:18 🧠 AI Creates Relational Bond — 25:27 ❓ Is This Really Human? — 27:12 🚨 Training Your Own Replacement — 29:36 🙏 Lament Before Theological Hope — 33:03 🤔 Curiosity as Vocational Superpower — 35:03 📺 Technology Inverts at Extremes — 39:08 🧠 Brain Losing Cognitive Capacity — 42:44 ⛪ The Church Must Be Weird — 53:26 🌐 Silicon Valley Exports Culture Worldwide — 57:28
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