TBG 48 - The Natural

Ellen Adair and Eric Gilde discuss the classic 1984 film, "The Natural." They introduce the film (2:00), with an overview of the story, cast, and filmmakers. They review the 20-80 baseball scouting grades for rating the film (6:52), and then Ellen issues the first apology in Take Me In to the Ballgame history. Amount of Baseball (15:88) kicks us off with a disagreement, as they discuss the Amount of Non-Baseball versus the iconic, thirst-quenching nature of the baseball depicted, plus a player comp. Baseball Accuracy (21:27) discusses Eddie Waitkus and Ruth Ann Steinhagen, Ted Williams, Wheaties and Lou Gehrig, the Wrigley clock and Bama Rowell, and spitballs and Burleigh Grimes. Is there an issue with Roy Hobbs hitting a walk-off homer on the road? Eric enlightens us on the process of boning a bat. Ellen wonders if Pop is a bad manager. They also address baseball superstition (with reference to Rhys Hoskins and Wade Boggs), commemorative patches, the 1939 Giants (Mel Ott & Carl  Hubbell), Reds (Ernie Lombardi & Bucky Walters) and Pirates, the bribe amount, and disintegrating baseballs (Martin Maldonado). Ellen considers the One Baseball Superman problem, the Baseball Is Hard problem, and does a breakdown of Hobbs's final at bat. Storytelling (54:20) addresses Arthurian and Homeric legends, the beautiful cinematography, the "16 years later" cut, the nature of Harriet's mental illness, and some confusion around Roy's flaw and the shame of being shot. What was Roy doing for 16 years? Can someone explain these medical issues? They also discuss Roy's magic, the newspaper photos of Iris, various issues with Judge, the son's whereabouts, and Roy's stay in the maternity ward. The Score (1:24:29) lays praise at the majestic feet of Randy Newman's score. Acting (1:28:56) lauds the ensemble, with special mention of Robert Redford, Glenn Close, Wilford Brimley and Richard Farnsworth, and a question about Kim Basinger.  Delightfulness of Catcher (1:39:15) considers Olsen's catcher-esque story function and recognition of Hobbs despite not knowing he was a pitcher, without being a prominent character. Plus, some bonus catchers. Delightfulness of Announcer (1:42:44) is another disagreement. Get ready for Lack of Misogyny (1:46:31), in which our scouts discuss women as either bad-luck seductresses or patient angels in a Madonna/Whore binary, where ultimately women are only a function of their impact on men. No spoilers on the following segments: Yes or No (1:55:37), Six Degrees of Baseball (2:03:21), Favorite Moment (2:05:33) Least Favorite Moment (2:08:09), Scene We Would Have Liked to See (2:10:22), Dreamiest Player (2:12:09), Favorite Performance (2:13:26) Review Thank You (2:17:58) and Next Time (2:18:25).   Join: PL+ | PL ProProud member of the Pitcher List Podcast Network