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The Banlist Episode!

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Hello everybody and welcome into today's episode of the Top Cut Yoo-Yoo Podcast. My name is Sonny and I'm here hosting with, of course, Yaboy Kaleb as always. Oh man, what's going on today? Uh, as far as you go, not much really.

Uh, what's going on in your life? What's going on with you? What are you doing? Say going home editing videos.

Mostly this. Fair enough. It's hard to argue. We do spend a lot of time on this.

Oh yes. As much time as we are capable of doing this, too. Pretty much. Um, sadly, we really don't have any quick play news to get into.

Yeah, because right now the OCG is really big into all the new rush tool stuff. Because Red Medicine is getting its own archetype. You know the old spell that's like... A little B spell.

Yeah, Game 500 Life Points. Yep, that's a thing. Yeah, it has its own archetype. One of them is like, mail the top card to your deck and then Game 500 Life Points.

And then if you do, add all copies of Red Medicine back to your Android graveyard. That seems good. It's just life gain and no win con for what I can see. Outside of I have infinite life points.

I'm gonna give you a splashable engine. Life gain as a splashable engine, oh my god. I mean, it's better than, like, losing, right? I guess.

Um, and they're also super big into the OCG right now getting their Nax Roll Premier Pack, which is the pack where they get all the TCG exclusive cards. Right. They're getting like greater polymerization and cordless. Wouldn't it be really cool if we got an OCD import pack every year?

I know, right? But instead they just kind of nickel and dime us in random sets. Pretty much. Um, well.

Kind of leaves a bad taste of them out sometimes. Yeah. Well, in lieu of, um, in lieu of us coming and, uh, in lieu of us having any quick play news, we'll go ahead and get into some discussion. The first thing I want to do though is I want to thank our wonderful patrons.

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I mean, sometimes like the moment just calls for it, right? Sometimes yes. Well, let's go ahead and get into it. So today we wanted to go ahead and start on some famous discussion.

Whoo. Everyone's favorite thing, of course, of course. So for those that are wondering, uh, you know, if you're just now getting back into the game, uh, you go as a forbidden limited list, which is updated every like, usually like three to four months, right? Um, so we do have a, um, we do have our most, most, most of the time, uh, the most current list, which was effective from, uh, July 1st, uh, being that it is now the middle of September.

Yep. We got the next band list coming up, right? Which we know sooner than October 1st. So we're looking at October 1st roughly for a ban list here, uh, which means realistically, the last one dropped almost two weeks early.

Yeah. So realistically, we could be looking without a doubt at a, uh, the new ban list coming. Probably like a week and a half from now. Yeah.

We can have two weeks at the same time. They've also said, Oh, it'll be out by October this day. And then we don't get it to like two weeks after. Right.

So today, today as of posting is Friday, September 10th, uh, realistically, I think in 10 days when we're like, when true, like, ban list alert could be any moment. Yep. Any minute now, just hit, just get to that webpage head at five until it comes up. Pretty much.

Uh, and we are going to try to give you our most real reaction, uh, when that happens. Oh yeah. As well as we can get anyway, right? In the meantime, we wanted to take some time to talk about the things that we think are problem cards on the ban list, talk about the things that we think are, uh, uh, neat, could come off the ban list, just talk about it all in general.

So a recap from the last ban list. Last ban list, we saw only saw one car, I'm sorry, uh, two cars got banned. Uh, Zudy act and dried and got banned and guard dragon. I'll be got banned.

Yep. Good old dragon mommy got got hit with the band hammer again. Yeah. That wasn't the only one striker dragon also got limited.

Then you have Miss Elena source got limited. Then you have performing that skull. Curbat Joker came from Forbidden to one. So being great.

Morash, jalio from Forbidden to one, whoo, sky striker mobilizing gauge from limited to one. Exactly. And double Irish magician from, uh, from Forbidden one, I'm sorry. And double Irish magician from limited to two and symbol of heritage from limited to three, which is wild.

You don't see that very often. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of times I like to put on the limited list for a little while and then switch to some limited and then when they, then when they discover it does nothing, they'll take off the list altogether.

Exactly. So what we're really looking at here is the first thing I want to look at is, um, which cards could probably come back to, uh, which, so okay, the first thing we need to do is we need to say, we talk about which decks we feel need to actually get hit on the ban list, right? Um, I think that there's probably at least, there's guarantee probably at least two, uh, maybe as many as like four, right? Depends on who you ask.

Okay. Really depending on who you ask. Absolutely. And it always does.

So what are in your opinion, the decks that need to get hit? Well, something has to be done about Dry Tron because if they just have all this new stuff and they don't touch Dry Tron, I think Dry Tron is going to be a problem, particularly looking on once I sell new product, because why would you buy the new stuff? If it's just going to lose a Dry Tron. Right.

And I'm, when I say lose to Dry Tron, I mean, or lose to Dry Tron, unfortunately. Right. So let me limit the, uh, revolt at, at, at most. Yeah.

I think if you, okay. So do you think, do you think that there's anything else that needs to be hit on the ban list? Nothing. I can think of off time ahead, really, outside of hitting something on Dry Tron and then maybe hitting the revolt.

Yeah. I see what you're saying. Um, I think that the ban list is going to go one of two ways. They're going to do a very minimal list, minimal list list.

Yeah. Where they, where they're like, okay, we'll hit a couple of cards here, a couple of cards. They're like, like ban this one card, bring this one card to from zero to one. Bring this other one from one to two, bring this card from two to three.

Yeah. I think you're going to see a lot of that. A lot of fine tuning movements rather than just noted as deck anymore. And not just even like murdering a certain deck, but just like a murder on the format as a whole, right?

Oh, even a big, really, you know, a self-destruct button. Yeah. Cause I do think there's, there's a potential for self-destruct button, especially as we move forward into bowed. Well, I'm going to consider how many archetypes we got coming up.

We got B-trooper, flundery, sword, soul. I mean, B-troopers are already out and they're already like a competitive deck. I know. And they're getting more support.

Yeah. I mean, I'm excited for that deck. Yeah. Oh, so am I.

It's because like I've seen a couple of combo videos and it's so interesting to just watch it flow. It flows like a water running down a babbling brook or something like that. So I'm trying to figure out the best way. What about prank kids?

Do you think prank kids be hit? Not particularly. If you were to do anything, I would probably semi limit or limit doodle doodle doodle. But no, not doodle, the cat, right?

The cats, another option. The reason why the doodle is because it reduces their consistency because now in order for them to do their thing, they have to shuffle back to doodle doodle. I think you mean the cat. I think you're getting the mix up.

I'm probably getting the two mixed up because the cats the link one. Yes, I meant the link one. I should have just said the prank kids link. OK, because doodle doodle is the link to only.

I think you mean cat. Yeah, I mean, I'm a cat, my bad. That's right. I don't play prank kids.

I understand. Yeah, I think that's probably right. We're going to go dog window. If I want to get personal with this, I have in fact played and voked shit all before.

Something needs to be done about Alster or magical meltdown. In my opinion, we should take the chaotic evil approach and just a rat of Alster as a Gemini monster. I mean, I love it. But in all actual series in this serious discussion, either Melton needs to go to one, which is what I would do or Alster needs to go to one, one or the other.

Yeah, I think the answer is well done to be honest. Oh, yeah. The biggest reason is, yeah, yeah, cool. It lets you search for Alster.

But the problem is that you can't your opponent can't respond to fusion songs. Right. I'm disgusting. Where so do you think that the deck needs to be hit though?

At this moment, no. Yeah, it depends on what else they do to the band list. Like let's say they decide to go full on nuclear and say, no more trubber grade, no more dry prod, no more. Or more fun.

Like they did that at that point. They'd have to also hit and folks should all dogmatic otherwise we'll just be catapulted to hope you have your stuff for the deck. Otherwise you ain't winning that. Yeah, I think that it's like realistically, I think that they absolutely have to address both dry trying and dry brigade.

Um, and I think that outside of dry trying to try to try to get, uh, I don't know. It's hard to say because I feel like any hit to prank kids just kind of is like a nuclear for the deck. It really is. Prank it is a really frail deck when it comes to like ban list.

It's either from, from what little I know about it. Keep in mind, I know very little about the deck itself outside of that. The four little base monsters are adorable. Um, is, uh, like hit one thing, the deck sees stuff, function, he hits something else.

The deck sees stuff, function it. It's really fragile to get hit on the band list. Yeah. I think the issue with that deck would be if it were to get hit as far as, um, if it were to get hit as far as the, the link one, that's probably, is it meow meow meow?

Yeah. Meow meow meow meow. That's right. Yes.

Yes. I googled it. Yeah. I think it's really fragile.

Oh, yeah. Um, so I think the hit for try brigade is probably either revolt to one or sure egg to one. One of the other. Yeah.

Um, I personally would do personally, personally, if I had absolute cosmic power, right, when it came to the ban list itself, I would absolutely go, yeah, let's do revolt one. Cause then it still gives them the capability of hard to make of spending all those resources to hard make the multiple sure eggs, um, as opposed to having the multiple revolts means they don't have to make sure, just have to make sure I anymore. Yeah. They can pump out fairs, or bear blurs or brubles or what have you.

I think the thing about the revolt versus Omen is you have to look at like this. If you limit revolt, then the deck can still hard make an omen and then link off one and Omen into a fair, so you can get the omen search. So if you make omen turn zero because you have the material and then so like summon carris, banish for for Omen, summon Omen link Omen and caris into a fair sheet. It gives you a bunch more material.

Like if you do that, like turn two or turn three, it's really, really good. Oh, yeah. But then you have one revolt. You get one.

Yeah. But the thing is you don't need that revolt if you're going second or even if like for follow through plays sure it makes the one revolt a little bit like, but the thing is you can still a lot of times you can by the time you resolve revolt, you've probably already won the game. So having only one revolt is like, it kind of sucks, but realistically, it doesn't just kill the deck unless you banish it off of desires, which is tough. Yeah, which is the idea is I don't not to kill the deck, but kind of rain it in a little bit, just a little bit.

Cause the deck has this is almost too fair. Right. Almost. It is a little unfair, but every deck has to be unfair to.

So if I was hitting anything like I would do revolt one because that can still function, but it rains an inch a little bit. Right. But it's a very fine line between raining an inch little bit and just pile driving it into next week. Yeah.

I think honestly, I think sure I to one is the answer if you really want to like hurt the power level of the deck. Cause I don't think that really there's a good way to hurt consistency without murdering the deck entirely. Except for baby Tinky, if you're doing zodiac, but yeah, then there's the zodiac part. I don't know.

They can't search fractal anymore. Fractals to be swear. Yeah. Yes.

Okay. I get their names back to all the time. Yeah. Oh, no, they can't search fractal anymore.

Whatever will they do? Yeah. I do think that there is a certain way to, uh, there's a certain way to go about it where the, it doesn't just like kill it. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You gotta be like, said, you gotta be real careful because it's everything line with that deck.

For sure. Um, so I say that I think that sure is probably not so the bigger issue, but the base it to the power ceiling of the deck. Oh, yeah. No, no, no, because then you probably don't want to get that search off of sure.

Yeah. At that point, you're probably only running like two or volt anyway, because it's a blowout, but like you're forced to go into what a regal or another fair sheet. Yeah. It's not near as good.

So, which is, which is, which is a fair discussion. So the next deck is really probably dry. Tron. What do you think about that?

Uh, well, there's a couple of things that I would do to dry Tron. That's only because and it's not, and it's not just because that was one of the two decks I lost to in the last turn. I got this, but I still, and I still I'm getting fifth. Of course, it has nothing to do with that.

Uh, but I'll see raisiness. Uh, probably Eva. I really think that that's the answer. I think if you ban Eva just do something about it.

Yeah. Like realistically, the deck can still end like like one or two negates. Yeah, it was like two negates and interrupt, but then they won't have the negates in hand. Unless they hard draw, unless they hard open into them.

Well, the thing is it's not about having all these negates in hand. It's about like, like, like when you have multiple heralds, multiple herald of orange lights, multiple diviners and an Eva, it's like you're not, you don't have just like, like if you have two herald of orange light and two diviner, right? You don't have just two negates there because you have herald of ultimate. So I feel you have four days.

Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. That's the new, if you darker one or more, they still have all of them.

They still have, okay, you're still not going to get to do anything. Right. Well, why bother? Yeah.

It'll make that that's fair. That is fair. Um, or, you know, intelligently playing through the ultimateness and the all the onboarding of gates just to get hit with an again, that's in hand that you literally can't do anything about. Right.

And I think that that's, that's part of the issue with Eva is that the combo sends in, uses Beatrice to send an Eva to grave and then another Eva after. And that's where you get your four fairies in hand from. Um, they don't have to think of a different way to run their combo where they go through a benton to get a search mid combo. Yeah.

Which is not as easy to do. And even then they only get one search, so they can either fetch a herald or a fetch a, uh, well, fetch a herald. Yeah. I mean, there's really, or like the, or diviner.

Yeah. The fetch diviner or orange light. I mean, I mean, say when saying, when talking about orange light, that's when you say Harold, because when you say Harold, anyone ever ran, I could say like, Harold or diviner. Fair enough.

I mean, yeah. Yeah. Cause then you can either get the orange light or the diviner. Right.

So you either get the, uh, in hand a gate or the follow up play. Yeah. You don't get both or in some cases to engage in the follow up play. Yeah.

At that point the deck becomes like make your board and then just put an envelope up. And it also makes you have to think a little bit more about your searches. Or it could be just your goon.dec at that point. What deck isn't your goon.dec at this point?

I mean, that's fair. That's fair. I say that. There's actually a lot of decks on orange goon.dec right now, which I appreciate.

Um, I really do think that that's probably, that's probably the way to go. What Eva, maybe outright banning bent and altogether. That's a big maybe. I think that that would like shut the deck out completely.

Well, it takes them off the ferry engine at that point. They probably have to run a Megalith engine. I mean, the Megalith engine is really good. Yeah, but it's not fairies.

Yeah, but it is solid rocks, brother. Fair point. He got me there. Solid rocks.

Got me there. Um, but I mean, like, like, so you either hit the bent and or you hit the, uh, Eva. Eva. One of the other.

Hit bent and you also hit Eva indirectly. Um, yeah. There's some truth to that. You know, because then why, you know, why, blah, blah, blah, blah.

I think that the deck gets really awkward without Eva though. But the only other hit besides bent and or Eva, I guess technically you can do consistency. You can do alpha to one, but then you've still got like, yeah, seven copies or something like that. Gamma to one, maybe.

Maybe even do both. Maybe. I'll buy Gamma when we don't. And I do not mean aside from your gamma, by the way.

Yeah, you would, you would think that that doesn't need to be like expressed. I mean, try trying what is a gamma Altenon. Something like that. I think that actually is right.

Okay, I'm googling this because if I was right about that, holy crap. Um, I do think that gamma would be an interesting hit. I don't know that it necessarily accomplishes the same thing with the, with the power of the deck. Um, the deck already struggles against hand traps.

So like, I don't think you want to hit consistency. I think you want to hit power ceiling. I was right. It's gamma Altenon.

It's gimme Altenon. Wow. No shot. No shot.

I would have remembered that. Yeah. Oh my God. I can't believe I got that right.

I've looked at the cards like twice. Yeah, no shot. I get that right. I played against that deck a lot.

No shot. I get that right. Man, I wish I was good enough to just open Joel. I mean, it's all it takes.

It's all it takes. It's that easy. Open Joel. It's like a, it's like a opening ultra guys.

And really what you need to do is like, yeah, what you really need to do is I just open Joel, open Joel Vaylor that way, or of Joel Imperne, that way you can Vaylor or Imperne the Moo Beta when I summon it. Yeah. It's that easy. Just, just to draw two or three ofs.

Right. Um, so Prankid's I think you hit the nail on the head. I think if you're going to hit that deck, you have to limit the cat, the cat, meow meow meow meow meow. But I don't really necessarily, I don't really think it's necessary.

I think the deck kind of handles it on its, like the deck is already, it'll be a power crap to realistic. Real fat like that. That deck has a really high power ceiling. It's not high power ceiling, it's high consistency.

Yeah, yeah. But the problem being is that it's got a high enough power ceiling for now, but that can only go for so long. Well, the thing is that that's, okay, so that's how that deck is power crap though, right? Exactly.

It does not have a very high power ceiling. And sometimes like it's good, it's good enough to be a top three deck right now, but that's because it's in, you were on 17 starters, it's incredibly consistent. Um, but. Or 16.

Yeah, but I mean, like even decks that have had extremely high power ceilings also eventually get power crept out. It's just part of the game. Yeah, it really is. Some decks that power crept out a lot faster than others.

Some decks that power crept out probably sooner than they should have initially. And sometimes just stay forever looking at you burning abyss. Yeah, exactly. Just always in the background.

Just, Hey, hey, hey, can I go in? Yeah, boy. Yo, dog, I heard you like hellscapes and fire. What's that?

He traps. I'm right here with you. I'm right here boys. Let's go.

Oh, anyway. Oh, just do those. Do make those awkward voices hurt your throat? Only the moyd demonic ones like that.

Oh, no, uh, no shot. No, dude, my throat hurt. I'm sorry. I've been saying no shot.

I'm saying. Yeah, he says a lot. Now I find myself saying no shot all the time. It's one of those things where when you hear enough, I just kind of warms this way into your vernacular.

Yeah. Yeah. Without you realizing until it's too late. Yeah, I picked that up with tragic and that's tough.

Oh, for me, it's been no cap. Yeah. So I think if you're going to hit prank kids, it's got to be the cat. And I think the last deck that I'm looking at as like a realistically a deck that could be hit is Invoke Dogmodal.

I don't think they would hit it because the deck is seen basically zero representation lately, which I acknowledge. Yeah. Well, yeah. Well, yeah, even so though, I think that probably the reason like the deck, just the unfairness of magical meltdown and the fact that it prevents you from responding to, well, you know, anything anything fusion, something related.

Just all fusion spells are now super polymerization. Congratulations. Yeah, pretty much one of the most unfair, no fun cards in the entire game says the man who who who site who has who has shittles as a another deck I can play. I mean, that's a deck you got back into the game competitively with.

Yes. I still say super polynese to be banned. Yeah, me too. Okay.

So let's talk about some cards that you think should be hit on the ban list like realistically. Okay. Well, right at this moment with right now truth be told, I think super poly outside of straight up shadal and in vote is actually fine because I mean, because really think about it, the only thing that you're ever going to say your opponents are going to super polynese right now is probably my dragon on the swamp. Right.

Who isn't great. Right. Yes, his protection is cool. But there's a big but he's only 1900.

That's not a big but that he's not he's a very tiny frog, but and you can lie. Yes, he can certainly lie about that. Oh, man, that that hello my baby. Hello, my honey looking dude just needs to be just he's just not so not good.

What about something like the dragon engine? I see a lot of discussing the green engine. Okay. If you're an afternoon engine, I would there's a really simple solution here.

There's actually several solutions. But there's one simple one. Simple. One just man.

Darv edition. Of course, we all know the most broken card out the entire engine is the dark magician. Darv edition to good band dark magician. He's mugi's protagonist card is finally too good for you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Watch out. Nios coming for you next. You're dang right.

Oh, but all seriousness though, like I said, you either there's a discussion about whether you should hit the drinkoon or vert or a red ice fusion or red ice fusion or red ice or red ice or red ice, but I'll say right. But no, no, no, no, it's should be told the issue is in my opinion, partially due to vertianic condos whole interaction with red ice fusion. And I understand that I feel that. Where it doesn't, where you don't get the side effect to having to activate red ice fusion, which is you can only summon rough ice monsters.

Yeah. And in my opinion, with our vertay, red ice fusion is kind of men. Yeah. It's only good because it gets you into your goon and you could ignore the defect.

Yeah. Um, I understand why you say that. But I think in my opinion, red ice fusion is a bigger problem. And the reason is, and I understand that verte is a problem.

It certainly limits. Well, it limits future card design. There's no doubt about that. It also means that when they design a new fusion card, if they have a limitation on it, they have to work it very carefully.

They have to make sure that it works the way they want it to work with the, uh, vert hand condo or we could just not have fusion. So that lets you fuse from the deck or we just have no, yeah. Um, like the one fusion where fusion card that lets you use from the deck, I've ever been like, I think that's fine is should all fusion. That's because your opponent has to have already pumped out something that's probably going to negate.

I think there is something to be said for, uh, I think there's something to be said for should all fusion being set up the way it is as a restrictions that you have with it. Oh my God, so many restrictions. But that's the only other fusion card I know that lets you fuse from the deck. Um, technically there's a couple of, there's like some infernoid cards that do it, I think.

I think then, oh no, then I'm trying fusion fuses with your banishes on and put some back in the deck. Yeah, which is bizarre. Whatever works. Yeah.

Um, but like, yeah, but yeah, but yeah, fusion destiny, fusion destiny, yeah, which is just another right eye fusion, but more broken because there's no limits. And I mean, it's going to be, it's going to be, it's what enables the destroy Phoenix and Force which comes out and boat. Yeah. Boat is really going to change the game.

Yeah, people are going to move or people are just going to do what Annie did to Woody with Trigoon. Just look at Trigoon, go, I don't want to play with you anymore and just pick up the shiny new destroy Phoenix and Force, sir. I don't know that it will. Some people will, some people won't.

Uh, your players certainly will. Do you, do you think there's anything on the list that you come off? Oh, by the way, my official stance is, uh, yeah, go ahead and ban Verte. I love Verte.

I think Verte is a cool toolbox card for usage in decks like Fluffle. Any future deck really. It can be a very cool toolbox card, but it's really good. It kind of breaks the game.

It's a little too good. I mean, if I was having it on the design for that card, I would limit it to its materials to two dark monsters or the two predoplans or two plants or something. Right. Instead of the two deck monsters is broken.

Yeah. You can give me the two same effect monsters. Oh, no, we can't use tokens and the dills to make it whatever. My stance is ban either Verte or Dragoon.

Either one will solve the problem. Um, the Dragoon ban, the Verte ban is a little bit better because then it unlimits future card design. Yeah. As far as something is to come off.

All right, let's just, we have time. Let's go through the list. Yeah, real quick. Just stuff that's banned.

Blackwing Go-Fu, Blackwing Steam. Those both needed to stay banned. Forever. Uh, blaster.

I can see blaster coming off. I can see it, but to be honest with you, I don't really want Dragoon like to have another extender. Fair. Well, here's, well, here's thing because they have Tempest.

Yeah, but blaster is better than Tempest. Fair? Cause he pops. Uh, Block Dragoon can stay banned.

Cyber Jar can stay banned. Dandelion can stay banned. Destrudo, Gin, Eclipse Waver, and Ferret, Nelson O, Fibre, Jar. Fishboard, blaster, Glow Up Bull, Grindr, Golden, Jett, Synchron, Level Eager, Magical Scientist.

Masterpiece can all stay banned. Oh, definitely. What about Maxie? I'd like Maxie to come back.

Why don't we reapproach Maxie at the end? I want to talk a little bit about the nuclear ban list option. Sure. Okay.

Megafant to be so line, Mindmaster, Orca's, Harpour, Finixian, Cluster, Ammarillis, Redox, Dragon Roller, Boulder, Samsar, Lotus, Spyro, Master Plan, Substitoo, Tyran, Neptune, Tidal, Victory Dragon, Gotta go out suit. That's all the regular effect monsters that are left on the list. Okay. Like of those, I think Maxie can come back.

I think as long as it's got reprints, since it's very printed, since it's got banned. Um, let's see. The only other one here that I can even see is Orca's Harpour, and to be honest, that card is super terrible broken. I don't think it should come back.

If it does, it has to come back to one. Oh, I mean, even at one, it's insane. It's still insane. But if they were, if someone somewhere who has this kind of control and power goes absolutely insane and decides, I'm going to unban, Harpour, it's gotta go to one.

You can banish this card from your graveyard, especially on one Orca's Monster from your deck except Harpour. Also, you can have special monsters, fights with the Dark Monsters. You can only use this as a force of Orca's Harpour once per time. Yeah.

Banish from your graveyard, especially on Orca's from deck. Yeah. And a deck that has other cards that shuffle things from the banish back in. Yeah.

No, no shot. I guess I understand people wanting it to come back to one, but like, no, I'm good. Yeah, like my whole thing is it could, but I'd rather it didn't. Yeah.

You know what I mean? I guess I can see a world. Everybody said engage couldn't come back either and it was kind of fine. Yeah.

But I think they never tried engage at one. They've tried Harpour at one and I don't think it worked. I'm aiming to be seen. So the next, yeah, the next thing we have on the list is three fusions.

Euler entity Norden, a Supreme King dragon, starving venom and thunder dragon Colossus. They can all say bad. I agree. There's some links guard dragon agar pain guard dragon.

Oh, be heavy metal phobes, electronite nightmare goblin nightmare mermaids, some in sort topologic gumball or link cross union carrier. Only one of those I could I could ever see coming off is probably electronite. No shot. I just I don't want electronite to come back to.

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, but it's very much case of one of these has to come off. Okay. You tell me one has to come off. It's probably electronite.

Yeah. Okay, you got that. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know enough about pendulums to know if any of these cards are like too insane, but as far as I'm concerned, I think I'll say things.

I don't like pendulums. Yeah. From the non anti pendulums zone, I think all these just need to say bad. Yeah, me too.

But that's again me going, I think pendulums fine. It's all right. And for those of you who couldn't see, I was doing the next slide. Yeah, yeah.

Well, you could see that if you were watching our live stream because you're a patron. Yes. So we have sink rows ancient fairy dragon dang long first of the Yang Zing if the world child's justice are an intense magician to me to get into the game. Oh, too many too many too many.

Wait, no, that's a lot of disease. Well, I broke it. Honestly, well, all chain MX Abraham, poker number 16 shockmaster, number 42, Galaxy Tomahawk number 86, a rock champion, rogue, wrongo, me on her. I mean, wrongo mini ad.

Yeah. Number 95, Galaxy eyes are matter dragon number S zero, you topic, sexual outer entity as a thought. Tyler Knight, Tolle Mais, true king of all calamities, winded carriers and maybe Zujak, brogable, Zujak, Dryden. I think Dryden was fine at one.

I think Zenmady can come to one as long as you ban hunter. I don't see that happening though. Hunter or magician, preferably hunter. Hunter's the one that you can send one to discard one.

I know. So I think if you ban hunter bring bags, I may be it's fine. Yeah, but also if you ban the magician, they get one hunter effect. That's it.

It's what you got. Yeah. Good luck. I think Dryden was fine at one.

Yeah, I understand it enables you to get zero really well, but like realistically it bears. I mean, the car is all right. I don't know. I guess it is really problematic because of how easily it enables that, but it also enables it also enables mega clops, which most extortled out.

So I mean, yeah, I mean, another issue. It's just it's just it's so what's the word I'm looking for? It's like a Swiss army knife of a card. It can do all kinds of things.

There is something we said for that. The card is really splashable and really versatile. Virtual that's the word. It's a little too versatile.

I understand what you're saying there. Just a little bit. Let's do spells. Brilliant fusion butterfly dagger.

Oh my card safe return change of heart chicken game. Cold wave, confiscation delinquent duo dimension fusion giant tree, a great such a heavy storm, Kaiser colosse and last will a mass driver, metamorphosis, a major painful choice pot of Greek, pre-me, smoke grenade at the thief snatch, still soul charge, smoke of judgment, that grass looks green in the forceful century. I think that grass looks greener. Come to one.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wow. Well, it's because I want to watch this whole game burn to the ground. No, OK.

OK, we say that that grass looks greener. The more you think about it, like the car does promote very interesting deck building. And it's a really interesting middle car in certain decks like paleo. That said, that's the reason why I want back.

But the thing is like, all it turns into at that point is a blowout. Like at that point, like resolving that grass looks greener is literally just a like super blowout. I think the blowouts are that something that like should be like we should be trying to work away from, right? I wish we could.

I wish they would. Trap cards last turn return from a different dimension. Royal oppression self-taught and sixth time self-taught. They should open off from vanity's emptiness.

They can all stay banned as far as I'm concerned. Yep. All that can say. All right.

Limited monsters, Armageddon, Black Dragon, Collab, Serpents. Stop me if you hear one that can come off. Cyberstein, Danger, Nesty, Danger, Jackalob, Danger, Succi, Succi, Noko, Succi, Noko, Dark Grepher, Dino, Might the True, Draco, Fighter, Dino, Resso, or Pinkertops, Exo, The Forbidden One, Genex Ally Birdman, Infernity, Archfee, Missile, Angelos, Morphe, Nord, Nada, Silent, Phantom Sky Blaster, Red Eyes, Darkness, Metal Dragon, Silent, Great Gazelle, Speedward, Tarotops, Spiral Quick Fix, Tempest, Dragon, Rolled Up the Storm. Why is Nada, Silent at one?

Because if you have one Nada, Silent at your hand and one Nada, Galistically, Genex Ally Birdman is like a really good card, but it could probably come back to at least two. Oh, yeah. No, I have very fond memories of Birdman. The card's been limited forever.

Yeah. He's a good card, but you know, he was a good card years ago. I guess it's because it's not once returned. It's gotta be.

It's gotta be. You can return once you control the hands, especially on this card for me. I have a bunch of others to field. Yeah.

Okay. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. I mean, it depends on what you returned your hand.

Because some decks could very easily abuse that other decks. I remember in Gear G, there was a combo where you would have a Gear G on field. So you would, there's a point in combo where you have four Gear G is on the field and you overlay two of them into a Gear G on MKX, the rank four. I thought it was a Gear G again.

Gear G again. That's what it is. Detach one of your genes to search the Genex Ally Birdman and then you can bounce the Gear G accelerator. Special, this guy and then, especially on the Gear G accelerator because you can control another Gear G.

Yeah, exactly. And then Synchro seven. Yeah. He's a little through tuner.

Realistically though, if you had another way to get him back in here and you could do it again. Yeah. Yeah. Theoretically, but why would you?

I mean, I think the next deck is really abused this. Well, Blacklings with Bora. Yeah, definitely. Any deck that just lets you special them for free.

Yeah. Which there aren't that many. Every deck lets you special them for free. This is 2021.

Even if Luffles can do it, if Luffles sheep. Well, here, okay. So, like, the freest special summon that I can see in the two decks I've run for like, should all its Falco from the graveyard. What if you had like a, say your opponent's got like three monsters on board, right?

You can special summon, oh, what's his name? Alpha Master Beast. Bouncy, bounce him back. Bounce him back.

Yeah. Special and back. Because the special summon is not what's returned. And it's based on attack.

Bounce him back again to special the Bergman and then special summon him a third time. Yeah. That's kind of stupid. But why are people doing that now then?

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