The Design of Desire, with Tony Fadell and Susan Kare

What do the iPod, the original Mac icons, and the Ledger Nano Gen5 have in common? Design legends.We hosted Tony Fadell and Susan Kare at Ledger Op3n 2025 to talk about their "Design of Desire" philosophy, making digital ownership human, and their work on the new Ledger Nano Gen5. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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