The engineer turned CMO fixing Marketing Measurement | Pranav Piyush (Reforge, Adobe, Dropbox)
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EPISODE · Jan 29, 2026 · 51 MIN

The engineer turned CMO fixing Marketing Measurement | Pranav Piyush (Reforge, Adobe, Dropbox)

from ExperiMENTAL Marketing | Playbooks to measure and scale Marketing ROI · host Sundar Swaminathan

Pranav Piyush is the CEO of Paramark , where he's devoting the next 15 years of his life to solving Marketing Measurement. In our conversation, he shares his journey from engineering to marketing at companies like Adobe, Dropbox, and Reforge emphasizing the importance of measurement and experimentation in marketing. He also discusses the challenges faced by CMOs, the need for a culture of experimentation, and the significance of strategy in marketing efforts.TakeawaysMarketing measurement is dysfunctional and he saw a glaring gap when he was a Marketing leaderCMOs face short tenures because of unrealistic expectations from the C-suite but also self inflicted A culture of experimentation is crucial for marketing success.Failure in experiments is common and should be embraced as a learning opportunity.Creative strategy is as important as tactical execution in marketing.The future of marketing lies in continuous adaptation and innovation.In this episode, we cover:00:00 Introduction to Pranav Piyush and Paramark01:41 Pranav's Journey into Marketing05:29 The Challenges of Marketing Measurement08:07 Bridging the Gap: Art and Science in Marketing11:44 Understanding CMO Challenges16:09 Building a Culture of Experimentation21:42 Strategy vs. Execution in Creative Marketing25:06 The Importance of Roadmaps in Marketing27:16 Innovative Experiences at Dropbox29:46 Lessons from Failed Experiments33:37 Finding Product-Market Fit37:34 Building Relationships with Major Clients42:09 Choosing the Right Marketing Vendor47:14 Understanding Marketing MetricsListen to the ExperiMENTAL Marketing podcast on Apple, Spotify, and wherever you get your podcastsNew episodes every Thursday at 6 AM GMT+2.Also, check out the experiMENTAL newsletter: https://experimental.beehiiv.com/subscribe

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