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And now in 1993, an action movie was nominated for best picture. What was the name of the movie? You find that man! Alright, listen up.
We have a fugitive that's been on the run for 90 minutes. What I want out of each and every one of you is a hard-target search of every gas station, residence, warehouse, farmhouse, house, house, house, and dog house in this area. Put that gun down! I didn't kill my wife!
I listen for is the fugitive. Bill Simmons, who Chris Ryan and Andy Greenmont. Doctor William Simmons. Doctor William Simmons, that's my dad's name.
When I think of Rewatchables, the fugitive is probably one of the first four or five. I came out 24 years ago, I don't know if it resonates the same way with 25 and under, but god damn, this is everything I ever wanted from an action movie. It was so satisfying and it was so surprising. August and I three, weird, like, out of nowhere.
There was nothing about it that was supposed to be good or successful. As the young entertainment weekly reader that I was then, I remember being quite surprised by the box office returns. And everybody was, I remember my dad was still a film critic and he was like, you gotta see this movie, the fugitive. I was like, wasn't that a TV show?
Her and Ford's getting old and he was like, the director of undersea. She's sophomore in high school, I had these takes. I guess so. I think I saw it twice in two weeks.
My generation, the fugitive, I was too early for me, just kind of knew about it. I knew there was a show. But then Letterman used to have Chris Elliott doing this fugitive thing that he would do over and over again. This fake fugitive, everyone would end the same way with a one-armed man.
And that's how I knew what the fugitive was. So they're making a movie with Harrison Ford, the fugitive, oh my god, that's going to be terrible. And then it was incredible. Incredible.
Con Harrison Ford had a great kind of tail end of his peak. He was starting to lose roles, which we'll get into with the casting motives. But this was kind of, you can make a case, the last great Harrison Ford movie. What about random hearts?
Oh, no, you're right. The last great Harrison Ford movie. What last beneath? Like, you go through it, but this was it.
This was the tail end of this Harrison Ford run that went from basically the first Star Wars all the way to the fugitive. Yeah. Like arguably the best 16-year run anyone's ever. One of the things that grabbed me the most about rewatching this, that I didn't appreciate at the time, is that Harrison Ford's name appears in the opening seconds of this movie in like 180 point font.
Yeah. In the same size as the title of the movie. And it turns, the most money spent on this movie in Special Effects is for Harrison Ford's name in the first five seconds. It was the change back to the credits.
Very similar font to Sounds of the Lambs. It must have been very big around mid-90s, that kind of neon block letters. I had this in the covered in What's Age the Wear, so we're going to get to it. There was something weird about 91 and 94, it was like they finally figured out they could use different fonts for it.
I feel like a guy like walked into Hollywood and was like, I just knew computer. They could do fonts for the movies and make your credits. Look amazing. And they were like, sold.
Whatever you want. But that is the vibe that is in this movie, and maybe a lot of the movies you guys are talking about in this series, which is at no point in this movie does anyone involved in it or anything on the screen suggests that they knew this was going to be successful. It just seems like it was a day at the office for everyone. They showed up, they shot some dailies, they went and had a nice steak dinner, and then it's a hit movie.
Yeah. And then they went to a huge set piece. It's not that fancy, certainly not by contemporary standards, right? So I found out they started filming it in February of 1993, started shooting.
Yeah. That's fast. After 20 years in August, and seven months that they had this expensive action movie has done right in the world. Yeah.
And it's been in development for a really long time and gone through lots and lots of different writers. There's only two credited, David Tuis and Jeff Stewart. But I know that this had been something that they had been sort of trying to get off the ground for a long time. The only remake of a regular TV series to be nominated for Best Picture.
Wow. Well, we're still waiting here about Baywatch, right? Baywatch, I'm canceling off. I've watched Oscar since Michael Mann's Miami Vice did not get nominated for Best Picture, so I don't even know if that fact is true.
Are you going to be in on that when Kristin and I do Miami Vice? I wear the only ones we watch the most. You have to understand something. The level of fandom you guys have for that movie, that's the level of fandom I have for Kristin's fandom of Miami Vice.
I am here for Kristin's devotion to the Go Fest. It's not just that I'm a fan of any movie where they're in Miami and they have to take a boat to Cuba and something's in slow motion during the parade. That's what I'm in. You can smell Colin Farrell's just like Aussie sweat in that movie.
We have between scenes. Tom and Lee Jones, one Best Supporting Actor. Yes, Tom and Jones. This launched the Tommy Lee Jones era.
How old was he when he appeared in this movie? Anywhere between 25 and 80. He was the Anjani of this movie. Yeah, he was.
Boy, he was ready for it. Andrew Davis, right after Under Siege. Right before Steel Big Steel. Yeah, and then what happened to Andrew Davis?
I guess that's an unanswerable question we'll cover later. But that is the thing that happens to directors. They get their one shot and they're like, okay, do your vanity project. It's like my vanity project is a movie about Andy Garcia playing twins.
And then we don't hear from him. Andrew Davis was like a really interesting early 90s, late 80s, early 90s, actually director. He had done some Steven Seagull movies. They're actually pretty good under siege.
He did it. Why did you say actually pretty good? I think he did Steven Seagull. I'm still offended.
He did some Steven Seagull movies. I think that's going to be the best one. Tommy Lee Jones. Very good performance in a very good conversation.
Oh, that's right. Yeah. So these guys have sort of denouris or CZ chemistry. That's right.
Eventually the fugitive became one of the first great DVDs. I actually looked it up to see when it was released March 1997. But I remember the DVDs were starting to take off 96 stereo surround. Hey, I remember I was bartending and I took like a whole week's paycheck and got this whole set up in the future of the train crash in my living room at the end of the day.
I remember the train crash in my living room at 2 in the morning after 9 bomb hits. The train felt like it was going through my entire apartment. How big was your television back then? Too big.
Large. Yeah. At least like 50 inches. Yeah.
But it was probably like 700 pounds. How did you get that into your apartment? It was like like a 44. It's so deep.
Anything else we want to cover before we hit the categories? No, not necessarily. I would say it's just hard to really capture the shock of how well this movie did but also how well it was received. I can't remember whether 93 was a particularly good movie but I do remember movie- Movie year.
Yeah. And this was a real like the same way like the Martian was a couple years ago where it's like, man, you can just make a really entertaining movie that satisfies critics and people coming to the box office. But I think even then we were probably already having conversations that seem very quaint now in retrospect about like blockbusterization of movies and movies getting too big and vicious and expensive and long and this movie isn't short. But when watching it I was kind of struck by it's basically a B movie and it just gets to it.
His wife is killed in the opening credits and he's running. We're getting 120 seconds. Yeah. You don't know anything really about their life.
We don't know about the drug trials. If this movie was made today, it would be a movie, a TV show. It would run again, except it would be a prestige one and run like 10 seasons. Yeah.
Think about how this thing about a few events he gets in the car and they drive away and there is no what's his life like now. It's a big fun graphic. John Fungs. You have just watched Harrison Ford in a few days.
But in many ways the air in this movie I feel like is stuff like taken, right? Because it's just like let's get down to it and give people what they want. This was a little bit more elevated than that. I actually think it could probably it could move a little faster.
Even though it moves unbelievably well. Yes. But in 2017, there's a whole chunk basically from when he jumps off the waterfall down all the way through when he gets an apartment and then he's in the hot thing. It's a half hour that could kind of.
Well, the amount of the writers involved kind of shows because there's there's like a definitely like a there's a chase there's a chase movie in this where they're just strictly chasing him and jumping off increasingly crazy stuff. Then there is the procedural part where he's like showing up at hospitals and solving the case and then there's like a detective show where he's actually solving his own wife's murder. So you can feel some of the stitches. I'm going to suggest to Andrew Davis at the scene that could have gotten trimmed was the series of scenes where he's walking through rooms with prosthetic limbs, touching each one like staying in the house.
Yeah. We go to the spingers going through the hooks. Like that's enough. We get it.
We get it. This is this movie is a big winner for all the prosthetic limb actors. A lot. Yeah.
Remember that guy wearing like not the Coogee sweater, but the Coogee polo where they fell into anything he's like, you got to problem with what's going on. So the prosthetic limb lab has been dining out on that one line for 24 years. He probably has a steak named after him in Chicago. I have a steak named after Chicago.
That's not hard. Most rewatchable scene. The aborted bus escape train crash is about as fun of a five minute of an action movie as you can get. What the hell is that?
Timely Jones taking over the investigation. Well, looks like you came a long way for nothing. With all due respect, Sheriff Robinson's I'd recommend checkpoints on a 15 mile radius at 24 and over here on route. Wait a minute.
The prisoners are all dead. The only thing check points are going to do is get a lot of good people friends around here in my office with calls. Well, shit, Sheriff, I'd like to see that happen. So I guess I'll take over your investigation.
Tommy Lee Jones is entrance though. No, he's in charge. The look on his face, the sarcasm. It's about as good of an entrance as we've had there.
I say compare the Hopkins and Bellectar level. Oh, completely. That's the movie from the moment he shows up all the way through his little speech. Every dog house for our house.
The hands four feet. This four yard and four miles. Is this an appropriate time to talk about the amount of Velcro on his body? Oh, it's great.
Yeah, man. He has so many layers of Velcro and hidden guns and things that say US Marshall on it. I don't know why they didn't license that jacket. Maybe the US Marshall's were this much fun.
Well, I'm sorry. They made a sequel. I didn't do it. We forgot why that movie didn't do well.
US Marshall's the sequel. It's an well, first of all, I gave it like five chances over the years forgetting that it wasn't good. Yeah. Each time gone.
Oh, no, it's like, oh, yeah. Well, it's a small time. Shall I say distracted Robert Downey Jr. performance?
Mm. Distracted. I like it. He is very good at it because Robert Downey Jr.
But it is like maybe had his mind on some other stuff at the time. Yeah, that movie. If you do that over again, maybe it was a director. I don't know.
It's what we should work. That is what this snipes is like. It's also just doesn't have the same like human factor of like this normal guy who gets dragged into it. It's more like an ex Navy SEAL who's on the run and Robert Downey Jr.
is like a double agent and Tommy Lee Jones. Also remember that one of the best things about Marshall Samuel Gerard is that we know nothing about him except what he says he doesn't bargain in blah blah blah. There is no back story. We have no idea about who he goes home to or where he goes or anything.
It's a really important point because a lot of times these filmmakers make a mistake of the two scenes where he calls his wife. Yeah. There's no origin. He's going to be home late and that's my biggest issue with my favorite bad cable movie, 8mm.
I don't need any of your character scenes. I don't need to know about the case, just why? You asked Marshall's question. Did they bring back all our favorites?
Cosmo, Noah? Yeah. I don't want to do an US Marshall spoilers, but there's some tragedy in that movie. Most rewatchable scene.
The Board of Buses gave Trinkrash. Time and Lee Jones taken over the investigation. The damn waterfall jump. The guy did a Peter Pan.
And the ending. I think those are the big four. Am I missing anything? I'm going down.
What's that done down? Now. The damn I remember when I saw it feeling like the way they played it was so realistic with the way he runs up to the edge. And you can just tell he's in this no-win situation where he's just like, I just can't go back to jail and otherwise I might get shot.
But he definitely really thinks about what's going to happen if I jump off this thing. Some good Harrison for it. Yeah, it's really, really good work by him. I agree.
That's probably the best part of his performance because they keep throwing in all these. And because it's a good movie, you don't notice him. They're all these little moments where he saves people to remind us that he's a good guy, that he's the hero. In that scene when he picks up the gun, he puts the gun down and humanity on his face.
There's also Dallas that has maybe the best line in the movie in that scene, which is, I don't care. Yeah. I think the life is high-pitched. Is that true?
Yeah. It almost doesn't matter how many screenwriters worked on this because you got so well constructed that they made a movie where they came face to face early so they could come face to face late because the movie is totally different if they don't actually have that moment early on. Right? It's just they're chasing each other.
Yeah. And then the epilogue to the damn scene is Tommy Lee Jones just being like, I want like nightlights. I want scuba divers. I want you to turn this damn off.
Like turn the damn off. Isn't that gonna affect the waters of the? Can we talk about the budget of the US Marshall's office? Yeah.
I'm not gonna get him. He doesn't seem like that much of a risk. What are you going with? I think that I'm with Chris.
I like that scene. I like a jump. I love the bus escape the train crash. I love bus escapes in general that these three prisoners somehow had this whole plane and they're just kind of silent eye contact.
Also followed by the bus flipping a million times and everybody says this thing where they're like talking about when the cop who always talks about he's almost so close to retirement. Oh, McPane. Yeah. I love how the guys in the front of the bus the guards are like, man, I can't wait to get some chow and get these prisoners out of this bus.
We're so close to the other jail. We'll be getting there any moment. Also, shouts to the one guard who gets stabbed in the aorta with a sharpened toothbrush and survives the night. Yeah.
He's fine. He's fine. He's better banded on it. Best casting, what ifs.
I didn't know any of this and I was flabbergasted by one of them. Alec Baldwin was the first choice to play Richard Kimball. That's hunt for a great time for Baldwin. Great time for Baldwin.
Harrison Ford had previously played a role that was first offered to Alec Baldwin in Patriot Games the year before. Yes, which means being a believer. Alec Baldwin had more juice in 1992 and 1993 than the four of which were huge. Yeah, I think Baldwin was huge.
I think Baldwin wanted to have a lot of control over his career. I don't remember whether Patriot games was a matter of him not wanting to continue the Jack Ryan character or just wanting to much money or whatever it was. I think he also was saying anyway, probably after he didn't get the money he wanted, he didn't want to be a franchise pawn. He wanted to do crazy to a kiss.
He wanted to be very good at that. Patriot games is much different. He wants to be a part of this nerd who's accidentally getting involved. Patriot games is like Harrison Ford saved the world a couple of times.
Yeah. But isn't that because Harrison Ford came on to the movie and they were like, well, this guy is not the guy. I think that's probably what Tom Clancy wrote. I've been talking about Tom Clancy a lot this week.
Yeah. By the way, we are incorrect in saying this was the end of Harrison Ford's heyday because Air Force 1 is still the way that's after Sabrina and then we make a couple of fun. Six days and seven nights was the real. That was the end of it.
The real flaming. I can't totally blame him for that. Six days and seven nights. That got overshadowed by the whole NH controversy.
Oh yeah. How about that? She was dating. Who was she dating?
Ellen. Ellen. Yeah. But then whether she was doing it for publicity and then all of a sudden Harrison Ford's like, hey, man, we made an action over here.
You're talking about the movie? Yeah, but you don't have the same juice that you once did if you're getting overshadowed by an NH. You know what I mean? That's true.
You got to look at the mirror on that one. Michael Douglas Kevin Costner and Andy Garcia also considered for Campbells. Andrew Davis considered Andy Garcia. Let's just put it that way.
Yeah. I mean, you did kill your wife. Baldwin too. Yeah.
A little bit like this guy had a comment. Sure. One hour, man, whenever you save a guy. John Voigt and Gene Hackman were both offered the row of same Gerard.
Can I take a minute here? I feel like we've done a few rewatchables. Yeah. And John Voigt comes up way more than I thought he was just leaking this stuff.
I think Voigt gets attached to a lot of stuff into like almost cast as blink. Right. So we'll cross them off for the rewatchables. Well, just I'm just saying, are you guys ever like when Voigt walks on with the exception of heat which in which case he's undetectable is John Voigt when he does that.
Are you ever like, yeah, Voigt on screen? Yeah, the Republican National Convention. Varsity Blues? All right.
Zack Max, noting. Don't think we're not doing varsity blues since Zack Mack. Walter Hill wanted to direct this movie and have Nick Nolte star in it. And he thought he was too old.
Nick Nolte. Well, Nick Nolte, how much older? It was just a bad call by Nick Nolte. Although I would have loved to see Walter Hilder act as he, you know, those tested for even hours together.
He did long run. I don't know if Nick Nolte could have pulled it out. I think it worked out. It worked out.
It's actually, it really is. Because you think about Ford, Ford's one of the few actors who you can watch without him doing anything. He's actually better the less he has to say in do often. He almost pulls you out of the movie because he's basically a blunt object.
Yeah. All right. What's age of the best? The train scene, the Dam scene, Tommy Lee Jones.
Only three choices. Do you mean his performance or he has he personally aged west? He is age of the best. From this movie.
From this movie 24 years later, rewatching it. I'm going to go TlJ. I think TlJ. Like, like hockey and Matthew Littler than scream.
Yeah. There's a timeless performance category that we can be coming back to in these rewatchables pods. And Tommy Lee Jones, if you put him in a cop show as Sam Gerard, if you were like, let's do Sam Gerard US Marshall as a television show, I'd probably watch that every week. He probably should do that right now.
tired, same Gerard coming back for one more case. One of the tires. I agree with you guys. Although I think that the other two set pieces are pretty interesting to consider in the light of the way action set pieces are built now, because the train thing was, as you said, stunning then.
Now it looks almost quaint because it's physical. There's no CGI that we can tell. And you know, it's that moment when he hesitates and the train's coming, you're like, why is this on wires? Contemporary brain, you're like, why are you hesitating?
Look at the train. If we're doing this on CGI, we would see the train at the same time and we'd be constructed differently. The damn scene is timeless though, because it's character-based guys. Is there anyone else who could have played Samuel Gerard?
For some reason, this is the perfect quintessential, most awesome possible time of the Jones role. It's perfect. Perfect time of the year. It's like guys in the seven, like I could see William Holden would have been a good Sam Gerard, like people from the 70s, but of this generation of this time period, I can't think of anyone.
Because it could have gone badly. It could have been John Cusack as Samuel Gerard or somebody like that where the whole movie gets real. The only person that would have pulled it off in that moment, like in 93, you mentioned is Hackman. Because Hackman would have, it would have been a different vibe.
But Hackman has that look, I'm just doing what I gotta do. I don't know if it happened, like chasing him through a sewer toward a dam. It would have been less fit. I would have bought it.
But he was at that point, he was older. Do we know how old Jane Hackman is? We killed him out for Grantlin. He's in his 80s now.
But he just has that whole authority, but that you kind of like him despite his ostensibly the bad guy for the story. The thing I'm talking about this role is that the fact that it's Tommy Lee Jones ad libs or improvised a lot of his dialogue, you kind of can't do a one for one because it's like, well, I don't know what this is. So tell me about this, I didn't even realize this. He just did a lot of, apparently, did a lot of sort of tweaking the dialogue.
So all that stuff was like, it's hinky. What do you mean? You know, don't, you can't say it's hinky. And then he shot her lover in the face.
Like, and then she's quite reasonably crying and he tells her to shut up. Yeah, every great line in this movie is Tommy Lee Jones. It's his Mona Lisa. What's age of the worst?
You mentioned the train scenes and the damn scene. They just didn't have the right CGI back then. Apparently they used Harrison Ford on a wire on like one of those green screens. But then for the actual crash, they had one chance to film it.
It cost a million bucks or something. And they planned it out. And the train actually came a little too fast. They thought it should be 35 miles an hour, but the train was 42 miles an hour.
And they had Harrison Ford dummies on the train when it actually hit for the dummy to go. And they made six dummies and all of them are gone. They made six dummies for like 75 grand. And the guy who made the dummies was excited because he was going to sell them.
But somehow all of them were destroyed. Oh no. Can we just go out and make some more Harrison Ford dummies? I call it for my office.
Are we sure there wasn't one in Cowboys and Aliens? Like they did. We already had three. I feel like we've seen one or two of the dummies.
So what are the nominations for? All right, so this is age the worst? Age the worst, I would say the CGI in the train scene. Yeah, I have a controversial one for this one.
But when we hear the other nominations. Harrison Ford's beard, I love it. OK. It's incredible facial hair acting.
And you know it's coming off. Also, he seems to have a lot of time in that hospital room. He gets off a good shave. He's got delicious looking eggs sandwich out of that.
Yeah, I think about that a lot. That'll tell him. He was a hospital room. He feels like a double hospital room.
But he really scoops those eggs on there. Yeah. The other one that's age the worst is the DNA evidence or lack thereof and the whole concept of Dr. Kimball getting convicted in the first place.
Just in 2017, you're just watching it going. Yeah. But wait a second. Did they get the blood match?
The blood on the device. It's also good when the DA is like, and you will also hear a voice from the grave that definitively implicate to Kimball. There's a lot of context missing here. Yeah, she's got a crushed vocal cords, whatever.
Yeah. She's mumbling. It's the best. It's age the worst in some ways.
I appreciate the fact that many movies from this era, if cell phones existed, you don't have the movie. Yeah. Right. If the whole thing is based on him forging access to a hospital with a razor blade while he's eating oranges.
He's like, I've heard. Yeah. But it just has an idea. He can just waltz anywhere.
I mean, this movie, you can't make the movie today. Or if you make it, it becomes so heavy and burdened with all the tweaks to avoid detection and cameras and stuff, it just becomes it's everything. It's a good point. Because enemy of the state comes out in 97.
In already the world's completely different. Yeah. The technology in enemy of the state is pretty advanced. They don't have the technology in enemy of the state.
They don't have the technology in enemy of the state. They have the technology in that 17 that they have. I suggest a little something spot on from a satellite. One other thing that's age badly is that you watch, and I hope that everyone has.
If you watch this movie again, you watch the first 15 minutes. There's a sequence. An uninterrupted six, seven minute sequence when every character on the screen is wearing a tweet laser. And women.
This is a major, major issue I have with this movie. These are all the pills. They're all the way. Not tweet blazers.
Not tweet blazers. It's not a weed. It's not an outfit changes and finding clothes that fit him I was going to mention that in the nitpick part. Yes.
We could do that. I love whenever somebody needs clothes and it's just like Tim Robbins in the warden. Tim Robbins is like seven inches. Oh, this book just happened to fit me.
For my, the thing that I think ages the worst is actually not the bus train crash, but the actual bus accident. I was watching this movie and I was like just recently. And it really does feel a little bit like tuning into the drive and cat when you watch it this time. It's just tough because I feel like they do a great job with it.
But there is a couple of shots where I'm like, is that's box bus rolling down like a sand mound with some good sound effects. A hundred times. And like five of the people are like, oh no. Not again.
No. So yeah. Like the guy, the security guard, the prison guard on the bus who's kind of a coward and then changes his story and Tommy Lee Jones. Yeah.
That guy. The two cops, Chicago cops. Those guys just dined out for a decade as Chicago law enforcement dudes. I don't know their names, but they always played those guys.
The guy with white hair shows up in Dark Knight, the Dark Knight as a cop, right? That guy's never not played. He very well, maybe. Oh, the guy's getting in the beginning?
Yeah. And when he are showed up, then those guys had a whole second life. Yeah. That's right.
Random ER, whatever's half ass internet research corners. Some good ones. We talked about the five year script writing process with nine screen screenwriters writing over 25 different drafts. And then Tommy Lee Jones added the box.
Harrison Ford damaged ligaments in his leg during the filming of the scenes in the woods, refused to take surgery. Let's can we just do it? Until the end of the filming, because he wanted his character to have a limp. There's Ford.
I have a, OK. Are we sure that Harrison Ford is not unbreakable? Are we sure that? So let's multiple plane crashes, correct?
Multiple plane crashes. He made crashes. He made crashes. Any minute.
Broke his leg on a set of Star Wars. Is that true? Tor ligaments instead of the fugitive gets his ass kicked in almost every movie he's in. Yeah.
And it's still ticking. It's just still. It's a pair of marijuana, man. It's not an early.
That's because he's a carpenter first and after second. You know, he's used to workplace hazards. Quick break to talk about Hotel Tonight. I tend to leave things to the last minute.
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Dillsboro, North Carolina. Wow. We should have a phone of Tate Frazier. Yeah, I don't know.
We should find out. Tate's home the next time he should Instagram story. Dillsboro, North Carolina. Too great.
Dillsboro. He crashed bus and Tate Frazier. Incredible. Tate's going, I know Dillsboro.
We played them in high school. We got to fight with them. This guy's a party he just scandal. Dillsboro, are you?
The crash cost $1 million to film. Do you think the damn scene costs more or less? I hope it costs less. It costs twice as much $2 million.
Why? Apparently they're shut down the dam and do whatever the hell they needed to do. Wow. The scene where Kimball is running through the St.
Patrick's day parade. Oh, I love that scene. Was not scripted. Tommy Lee Jones made that up too.
He took it up. He's a person like Dillsboro. Andrew Davis was a Chicago dude. Yeah.
Really wanted to film with the parade. Sent Ford and Tommy Lee Jones just kind of chasing. Jones chasing Ford and he had a steady cam and just followed them through the parade. Ad lib, they had no permits, nothing.
Wow. I like Andrew Davis. And people in the parade, their reaction to Harrison Ford, were genuinely them being like, why is Indiana Jones walking next to me? Yes, it was pretty cool.
But in the movie it feels like they're like, hey, that's Dr. Richard Kimball. Yes. Yeah.
The character of Dr. Nichols, who we're going to get to. Yes, we have. How could we not have spoken about?
Early Nipples. You know, sometimes you got to put the line on ice. Recast for Jerome Krab. Is that a say?
Let's go with that. I've been wondering how. I mean, I know. I like Jerome Krab sounds like a guy playing small, horrible, lazy Charlotte.
I came from Charlotte. Alan Krab's brother. It's Ron. There's like Jerome Krabby and like, Jurgen Prockenow, which a lot of movies from that era.
And I never knew which actor they were. They were just in the background. The original actor on submarines for sure. The original actor landed the role, Richard Jordan, it was a brain tumor in the filming.
And he'd been in for October. He died three weeks after the film was released. He's the secretary of defense. Harrison Ford had to refil him his first scene with Jerome Krab, the Portland Trailblazer.
And he had the Groves beard out for it. And his beard looks slightly different in that scene than it was in the other piece. It's amazing they were able to afford such a believable friendship between an American doctor and a Dutch doctor, who was for somebody who went to school together in America. We talked about Tommy Lee Jones improvising his dialogue, including Think Me Up A Cup of Coffee and Chuck O'Donut, with some of those sprinkles on top.
You know what I'm I'm putting? Yes. What are you doing? I'm thinking.
Well, think me up a cup of coffee and a chocolate donut with some of those sprinkles on top. What are you doing? You're thinking? That's a Tommy Lee Jones special.
Classic. Cosmo Renfro. Yeah, that was. Joey Pants.
Yeah. Supposed to die in the end of the film. Joey Pants successfully lobbied for his character to be spared in case there was a sequel. Joey Pants always wins.
He was in the sequel. Did he lobby Tommy Lee Jones? Because he was in charge of the production. Can you rewrite these last few pages?
Now, it also said on the internet, again, this is why it's half-ass internet research. The Coeler Ward lobbied for her character to be in a coma and not die. And they're like, that's kind of no way, Coeler. Kind of takes away the charm of the future.
It takes away the first three murders. Did Andreas Katsu was lobbied to have two arms instead of one arm? He's like, I just think that this character of him would be more full. You think about my motivation?
I always thought Coeler Ward did not have the career she should have had. Completely agree. I thought she was one of the best looking actresses of that whole era. She was a good actress.
Really good. And I don't understand what happened. I feel like there's an alternate scenario where she has two Academy Ward nominations. I mean, I feel like there's a side conversation we had about how Coeler Ward and Julianne Moore are in this movie.
And Coeler Ward plays a corpse in Julianne Moore who pushes a gurney once. And she's really mad, by the way, Harrison Ford. For no good reason. He saves someone's life.
That's another piece of internet research we have here is that the Julianne Moore part was supposed to be a love interest. But they changed it because it was like this. It's really just like this. It's like getting some in the house.
It's like getting some in the house. It's like getting some in the house. That is always seem like that. And the Jane Lynch character, the researcher, is also supposed to be possibly a love interest.
That was also played around with one of them not happening. For me, that was the biggest. Oh, hey, look. The movie scene.
Jane Lynch is in the now. Either in the Blu-ray or the 20th anniversary, one of those, they have deleted scenes. I think the Julianne were deleted scenes around there. Because that makes sense.
This is Julianne Moore coming off of Hand the Rocks the Cradle. She is the next big thing. And she just shows up for five minutes. Short cuts with her hands off for 10 minutes.
That's all takes. She died on Hand the Rocks the Cradle with the Gardenhouse fell on her. She was still not positive how she died. I know it's a lot of glass coming at you, but I feel like the glass isn't going to break until after it hits something.
Does she fall through though? Isn't the impact of the fall? It'd be caused down on her. That's right.
Yeah, Glat, I mean, never been a Glat in the 90s. It was very, very powerful and die hard. But, you know, great point. So two cosmos in 1993.
Cosmo Renfro and Cosmo Cranver. My God, it's a Cosmo Renaissance. What happened? Was that Cosmo?
Shorn for something? I don't know. Are there a lot of 24 year old cosmos out there? You know, that's a great name.
It's one of the weirdest quits. All right, the Deon Waiter's award. Best Heat Check Performance by a Role Player. Okay.
I am disqualifying Tommy Lee Jones. Okay. Yeah. Not fair.
Oh, Kristin, I like it. No, I like it. I want to do other nominations with the Vote here. The guy who played the One-Armin.
The ball black convict on the train. Oh, yeah. That guy was ready to be in the movie. Ready to commit crimes.
That's the sequel. They shouldn't be like what happened with the three days. He should be like what happened with the three days. He should be the biggest mistake we do as Marshall's was the second person they changed should've actually been the most dangerous criminal in America.
Yeah. Joey Pants and Dr. Charles Nichols are my four candidates for this. I'm gonna get other I have a writing camera except writing candidates my writing candidate for this award is all the reporters at the press conference Yeah, Tonya Lee Jones including Selena's ex husband from VEEP and Call to people or clearly Chicago reporters in real life But I have no idea who they are so I'm just gonna say it's Mike Barnacle and with Smith I like who they are yeah, but they were like clearly like let me ask you something Marshall What do we know about this rich kid Kimball?
It's like right out of the 1930s the way that they're talking and they're like obviously colonists You know like they're like my my readers want to know where is this doctor Richard Kimball? What about this one on man small Andreas Katz was side note. I didn't know this he's passed away now Yes, apparently I guess apparently a lovely guy and he was on the show Babylon 5 I show and apparently he passed away because the creator Babylon 5 when I record to say this that he was a wonderful guy But he quote love smoking with a passion that cannot be described So I hate to connect the dots for you that we could describe what happened to him Yes, that's I'm very it everybody's like you know it's great Secrets I'm gonna say Bob Black convict was that the end-waiter's when he's in three scenes Yeah, he goes like seven for eight with ten rebounds I'm gonna make a small argument for Portland Trailblazer small-forward drone crab Yeah, that guy he flies in from Amsterdam or whatever he's given a script And I just feel like he must have thrown his head back and laughed because he is dunging out on those scenes Yeah, you watch it now and obviously we've seen the movie and we've seen a thousand movies since then but when the character is brought back into Our attention for no good reason we don't remember him from the first part of the movie And we see him again sort of giving a tip to the port like the valet at his tennis club Yeah, he's like oh good mind dusty having good day dusty. Thank you Okay, so like well this guy is the villain like it's so clear that he's a villain So when he gets that see at the end he's giving the speech and he's like okay Richard Let's talk like he's having you've ever find him.
He's having great great time Yeah, he's not plausible in any way in this role. They were friends never good idea and plus like Harrison Ford's calling him Charlie and Chuck Yeah, various times the movie. He's like so not a Charlie or Chuck. He's a Dutch man.
Yeah who is living in America Charles Dutch man. No, no, no, no, that was a bad kid. You know that the roan crab one of the first thing from his from his filmography Jumps out he apparently played someone named Klaus Herzog in a episode of my new vice called heroes of the revolution Did we gotta go back and check that out? Do you want to know what his last?
After you got drafted in the lottery? I do want to say that his last major credit in 2016 is a film called gangster kittens So I feel like maybe that's a voice over words action for the live action film He was in transporter three different him if we're going apex mountain might as well start with him I think this was a Not for crap absolutely because I don't know any other Second round of the Western Conference play When he hooked up with our view to suppose For incredible high-low post who would have been better as dr. Charles Nichols Wow It was like this would have been like a good Jason Robards role some sort of old-school Yeah a little bit or what about happen like what if you were just getting happen would have been with happen we would have known it immediately Yeah, maybe John John boy even maybe too famous. Maybe that's why this is what big boy wants you to think Yeah, but he attaches himself to all these rules and then you just can't stop thinking about voice You're like what a boy played this guy.
What's this quote me? There's a couple of there's a couple of there's a one where he's like he calls up William Victor Yeah, just be like nobody knew the bonds of yours to be that isn't a no reason we can't get well off this From heat would have been a better Charles Nichols Ted what's the name? For it obviously not see the word no sisters no what about the ones and again hive can they get a little over yeah? Breakout was yeah, yeah, I love see the word Timely Jones.