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The future of Human-AI coexistence, according to Kevin Kelly (co-founder of Wired, futurist, author)

Kevin Kelly is a co-founder of Wired Magazine and a renowned author and futurist. Decades ago, Kevin predicted much of today's technological and cultural landscape. In this discussion, he presents his new bold vision for what’s coming next: The Handoff to Bots.

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Kevin Kelly is a co-founder of Wired Magazine and a renowned author and futurist. Decades ago, Kevin predicted much of today's technological and cultural landscape. In this discussion, he presents his new bold vision for what’s coming next: The Handoff to Bots.

First published

03/19/2025

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technology business investing news

Duration

44 minutes

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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View

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<p>Kevin Kelly is a co-founder of Wired Magazine and a renowned author and futurist.  Decades ago, Kevin predicted much of today's technological and cultural landscape. In this discussion, he presents his new bold vision for what’s coming next: The Handoff to Bots.</p><p><strong>In this episode, you’ll hear:</strong></p><ul><li>Why declining populations will radically reshape economies</li><li>What a bot-to-bot economy could look and feel like</li><li>Why people of the future might be paid to read emails</li><li>How AI could help humanity find deeper purpose</li><li>Why this future might be closer than you think</li></ul><p><strong>Kevin’s links:</strong></p><p>Website/blog: https://kk.org/</p><p>Twitter/X: https://x.com/kevin2kelly</p><p>Instagram: / kevin2kelly  </p><p><strong>Azeem's links:</strong></p><p>Substack: https://www.exponentialview.co/</p><p>Website: https://www.azeemazhar.com/</p><p>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/azhar?ori...</p><p>Twitter/X: https://x.com/azeem</p><p><strong>Timestamps:</strong></p><p>(00:00) Intro</p><p>(02:17) The baby black hole behind Kevin's theory</p><p>(10:49) Kevin's thesis: The handoff to bots</p><p>(15:05) This world is closer than we think</p><p>(19:32) The role of humans in this new world</p><p>(21:23) Could monopoly influence pose a problem?</p><p>(28:33) The nature of “struggle” in this new world</p><p>(32:42) Could we see countries competing for population?</p><p>(36:06) How a scarcity of humans might change what we value</p><p>(42:30) What would 1994 Kevin think of 2025 Kevin's blog?</p><p> </p><p><strong>Production:</strong></p><p>Production by supermix.io</p><p> </p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>

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