Hi, I'm Holly and I'm Haley. Welcome to Mountain Mysteries Tales from Appalachia. Well welcome back. Hey, that was really puppy.
I'm 11th week. You have the... Welcome back. Like you're slightly dead.
Well all the way down. I'm the preppy school teacher who when we talk about dark subjects, I have my voice. Yes, it drops an octave and I get kind of therapy. Especially when I have like the coffee when it's warm on my throat.
I have my voice will drop that octave. That's funny. Yeah, still the same person. Gemini, not my cooler.
Oh my gosh. Well, my bones are cracking. Let me just tell you all. Okay, so...
Haley and I, you know, we went on vacation and a lot of her friends came as well and so they were all dancers and listening to them talk. Now I am close to a decade and a half older than you and your friends. And saying they're listening to you guys. You're like, yeah, I mean, I threw my back.
Or yeah, I got icy hot in my bag. Yeah, I got some bengay. I rubbed on that. Who the heck are you guys?
And then they would talk about, yeah, and then we went out to the club and we went dancing. And then they're like, oh, the next day we paid. Who are you? I felt like I was sitting there listening to my mom and my aunt talk about their aches and pains.
And I was like, are you in your 60s? I feels that way. Yes. Daily, I feel younger than you physically.
Yeah. I... Yeah, we all grew up together dancing. Like competition, dancing from the time we were like four and five.
Until, you know, now we all still do a little bit of like different styles and that does something. Yeah, it really just really messes you up. I know like one of my friends has like is in physical therapy and the other one has like bad joy. We all just have really bad joints.
And I got kind of hard to regularly and he's like, yeah, you're real messed up. Like thanks. Thank you, sir. Holy strumble.
I can't even imagine what it's going to be like for you. Oh, it's going to be real bad because I currently now have to lay on a heating pad for my back. Daily? Regularly.
Oh, yeah, and my mom got me for Christmas. I think last year, I remember I take care of it. It's one of those like things you put in the microwave. Yeah, yeah.
Like the rice and something. It's like it's rice. It's got something out of that you heat up and you can like put it and it goes around my upper back in my neck. And it's really nice.
I use that while I'm working on my computer. It's like 87. I swear, that's what it sounds like. Just listening to that.
I was like, how old are you people? Yeah, we're all, yeah, our bodies are shot. Absolutely. And I've had several moments where we've had like, pause an episode because I'll shift a certain direction in like a whole hipble cracker.
Like my neck will crack or my back or the shoulder. So this year for Christmas, I'm thinking, you know, some kind of ligament, weightment. Yeah, some type of icy hot. I don't know.
I think it creative with it. Yeah, some type of like heating, bad situation. Yes, something. Yeah.
Yeah. You don't want to hear about a haunting? Yes, where is this? Okay, so we are going to pain road.
Which is in butcher this sex pahole. I think it's in like Stokes County-ish. North Carolina. Yeah, I don't know.
Okay. But I don't really think it is. I don't know. I don't really know.
It's kind of like in the center of the state. So we're a little off the beaten path, but it's worth it. I promise. Well, it's still North Carolina.
We're still in the south, even though it's not technically Appalachia. Yeah. I'm not like this slide, Haley. It's okay.
It's okay. It's been a week. I had like two panic attacks this week and it's been a lot. So we're talking about this haunting.
Here we go. Let's do it. Alright, so the road is known as pain roads. We're talking about a whole like stretch of road, those haunted.
Oh, wow. And it's also called in some places Edwards Road. It's one of those weird roads that like starts as one and then turns into something else kind of like halfway through it. Right.
We have a lot of those around here. There are three major legend slush stories that are pretty well documented that make pain road one of the most haunted places in North Carolina, which I never heard of it. Either. So the first is about this real gross dude.
I believe his name. So I've heard his name for this story and for the third story, but Edward Payne. I guess who the road is going to name that first name. So he was either involved in this one or the last one.
I don't really know. He's been mentioned involved in like different sites. So it said that he owned a very large plantation. And when he found out that one of his daughters had become pregnant by one of the plantation slaves, he became enraged and killed slave.
It is then said that pain kind of flew even more off the rails and started participating in devil worship and practicing rituals. Holy cow. So quick escalation here. I would say.
Yeah, which I mean, you know, the whole like, I think they called it devil worship and not like Satanism because that's a whole different thing. Like Satanists are not inherently violent. Like the more I've learned about like it, it's not like that's fine. Like do your own thing.
Right. Whatever floats your boat. Just don't, you know, hurt people. Right.
Which I mean, the whole like idea of diving into like a Satanism now. But like from what I understand of it, the whole idea is it's pretty much like freedom from religion in a way. I don't know. I'm not explaining it very well.
But it's fascinating. If you don't know a whole lot about Satanism, Google it because it's really like, Don't ask me. Don't ask me. But it's really interesting.
I've heard a lot of other podcasts explaining it a whole lot better and it's. Maybe listen to them. It's a draw. Yeah, just log off of here and go check something else out.
It's done their research better than me. So he was making sacrifices and it just said participating in rituals. Okay. So I don't know what that meant in his very perverted mind.
Gotcha. Of whatever religion he was trying to twist and make fit his own delusions here. So, you know, paint it and stop at just, you know, doing some rituals in the woods. He set fire to the plantation, which killed everyone on the property.
And the legend is that those that were killed there, haunt the plantation and roam the boundaries on moonless nights. Huh. So that's kind of the first legend. Okay.
So the second legend is about this young guy who was, you know, driving on pain road, probably going too fast and never made it off the road. The man apparently lost control of his car on a sharp curve and crashed near the ruins of a chapel, which are pictures of the, like the church and it is like burnt out and just looks very scary. And this is apparently the place where the guy from the first story was doing some of the devil worshiping things back in the day. Gotcha.
So there's some spooky stuff happening there. The man's car then caught on fire and he died in the car, which, you know, would have been horrific. By standards, I'm not doing anything to help him because the car was fully involved in flames. And the ghost story for this one is that if you drive down the road late at night and you pass the curve, you can see headlights of an old Ford following you, like it's pulled out behind you and it's falling down the road and then they just disappear, which is real spooky because that's wild.
Okay, so the third story is that sometime in the late 19th century, there was a family murder on pain road. Now, this legend goes that a man and his wife, they often had these like really big fights arguments. So a lot of violence going on there. And one night, the man decided that the children were the root of the problem.
After one really violent altercation, the man apparently tied his wife to a chair in the living room and went upstairs to kill the children. The wife was able to free herself and save to her infant child. She took the baby and escaped out of the house, but her husband caught up to her on the bridge. Now, the legend says that the husband decapitated the wife and threw the baby down a well on the property.
The man then committed suicide by hanging himself from a tree. And apparently, the ghost story for this one is if you are on the road in Whisper Dixie, a woman's ghost appears and approaches her car holding her head. Nope, nope. You know what that goes.
No, no, no, no. Here's the thing. I mean, I'm intrigued, right? And we've even talked about what our afterlife is ghost might be like.
But the thing is, I mean, I think it's one thing to see an apparition kind of like, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo. But if she's holding her damn head, no. I mean, it's one thing to have the Ford following you. Yeah, that's kind of fun.
Sure. But the woman with the head in her hand. No. I mean, I would hope that if I was, you know, if I happen to go out by being decapitated in this life, I'm hoping in the afterlife, you know, somehow my head gets reattached.
I think it just would. I think that you would be apparently not her didn't know. You know, and that does beg the question. When you go into the afterlife, who's to say that you're going to have all your body parts?
Is she she holding on to her head to kind of prove a point here to be like, you know, look what this SOB did to me? Or maybe she had a choice. And they were like, you know, when they were assigning duties or roles, like doing a casting call here for hauntings, they were like, listen, for dramatic effect, how do you feel about having to hold your head? Like, we'll give you a, like a really big sign on bonus.
If we don't have to reattach her. I mean, money really does talk to be honest. It does. And I mean, for the right price, I might be effects and the whoo, you know, I mean, what really does add to it?
Is if she's holding her on hand? I mean, you know, you can't really beat that. I feel like I'm one of the people in the admin that's asking these questions. Like, would you be willing to continue your decapitation?
And it's like, in there with the like, willing to relocate question. Right. For this job, would you be willing to travel? Right.
Like, are you good with overseas? You know, how do you feel about, are you a people person? You know, because I really do think that if you're a ghost, kind of have to be a people person. You kind of do.
And that's, you know, I'm like, I'm going to have to get better at that in this life. Yeah. So I can haunt in the after this. And I think not just a people person, but be willing to get a response from them that necessarily is not positive and be okay with that.
Right. Yeah. You know, that's something to work on. But you know, I feel like for you, even though your bones are creaking, there is time, there's time for this.
Yeah. Oh, Haley, we're going to rock the afterlife. I can see it now. I'll be one of those.
That's like my bones rattle. Well, that's the problem is a bit like, what's like, what's the same? Like, it's like, oh, it's Haley. Yeah.
Crap and bones. I love it. Yeah. Hello.
Welcome to the afterlife. How many I transfer your call? Oh, gosh. Okay.
So what's crazy about these stories? Is that they've all been proven to be false? What? None of them are real.
None of them are real. Don't mess with none of these. None of these are real. I wanted to go to this road and at the experience, one of the things that people have had these experiences though on this road.
So that kind of gets into, they do have some links to relevance. These are just the exaggerated stories that have been passed down of the this road. So the last story about the man who killed his family has similarities to the loss in family murder. I told that story, which we told earlier.
It's not connected from anything that anybody could find, but it's likely that it's, you know, people in this area heard about it around the same time. It became like a ghost story, just a retelling of events. And if you guys are curious, go back to our Christmas massacre episode. This is the story about the, I want to give it away, but the gentleman who killed his entire family on Christmas.
So in Stokes County. So that could be where it came from. But you listen to that, that has, you have some context. Yeah, that one was wild.
Yeah. So the first story was actually probably just a fake story about this guy, my list, Frank Edwards, who was a landowner in the area, not a plantation owner. Just a regular old landowner and like the 50s or something. Like, and Frank had made some threats on his own life several times.
And on October 5th, he parked his truck in a shed across the road from the house, laid a stick of dynamite under his head and blew himself up, which is a stone story. Well, it's kind of speaks to headless. I mean, different kind, but, yeah, holy, I mean, what a way to go out. Yeah, I mean, if you're gonna go, I guess, that's, that's pretty intense.
That's a lot. There's some other mental health things going on with like some other family members in that situation. But yeah, that really, uh, was the, I think kind of where the story of like, oh, the fire and, you know, the whole place blew up and, Oh, that makes it in the car. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. And the second story, there isn't a, there may have been like a horrific car wreck or something and they, or somebody just made that up. I don't know.
Could have been. The properties on the road, um, that have all been like a lot of the properties on that road have been burned down after vandalism by some local teenagers. So if you look at the, like the pictures online, they're real spooky because there's a lot of like, burned out buildings and really like vandalized buildings with like graffiti and probably looks almost like a ghost town in a way. Yeah, I think there's people that still live on the road.
Yeah. So, you know, if you do go there, just be respectful of people who like actually live there. Um, because I think it's still like a residential. And those who live there, you're listening and you want to message us.
Let us know if you've had any experiences. Yeah. So, I got most of my information from this one from the, um, Cape Fear, things Cape Fear and Sea, I'm not sure. Um, but they had that they did like a story of the legend of pain road.
Um, and it was really, really interesting. But there's like all kinds of other ones. And they're, what I've noticed from when I was like looking at all these is, um, there's a lot of different like spins on each story. So, like I said, the beginning of the Edward Pain name is associated with the first story, but it's also associated with the last story.
So it just kind of depends on the telephone. It kind of is. And like, I think that's what's so interesting, especially like in this area, that's really how, I mean, historically this area is a very like oral history centered area. Um, just because education was so poor for so long.
I mean, not now, obviously, but like, we have back in the day, it was rare to, it wasn't written down, right? We were having like written records of things. And of course, we're dramatic effect. But you add like a embellishment here or there, like you're sitting around telling your grandkids a spooky story.
You add a little embellishment here and then they, you know, grow up telling that story or they add a more trendy embellishment. Right. And it's like the stories we've all heard like the Bloody Mary story or I'm trying to think of like a big ones when I was younger, but you would always hear. It's like a ball grain.
Well, that's not more Halloweenish, but yeah. I don't know. I feel like every little like every town has their own like, yeah, ghost story. Even our one that we covered, um, the pink lady, that one and the one at Mars Hill.
Yeah, that one I've heard about 27 different versions of. Like I've done a good tour where I've told that story and it be. And I've experienced, we both experienced the ghosts. Yeah.
And at well, different ghosts, different buildings at different times, you know, so. But I mean, you just kind of like everybody has their own stories and it gets changed and bellished and. And it does to meet each kind of need because, you know, really you want to have a relationship with your children and grandchildren and you want to keep them entertained. So if you're telling them the story, yes, it was probably based on a little bit of truth or a little bit of fact.
But then, you know, it was like, and then he carved into a stone. And so, you know, modern generations. And so he wrote on Instagram, you know, he texted to his friend. He texted me.
Yeah. And like, though, when you're telling like scary stories on like a college campus or something, like, there's like a hint of truth, right, to a lot of those stories. But if you go look them up, like it's like, okay, well, even like our Mars Hill College one, I had heard so many versions of this girl was dragged and this and dragged on the stairs and all these things. And when I actually researched the story of the of the woman who we think is a ghost, that did not happen at all.
No, and it's one of those like, you have to walk a fine line of, you know, embellishing stories for dramatic effect and losing respect. I think for that case, I think that's one that over the years, especially at Mars Hill case, it's really been altered because I've heard so many crazy horrific versions of that story that are not true and not fair to anyone to lose respect for us. Like, once we become ghosts about how we can go, I want it to be the true, you know, story, not a lifetime Disney version. Don't, you know, don't sugarcoat it.
Like, just give them the real raw facts about how Haley went down. Yeah. And Holly, we'll see what happens. I mean, who knows, you know, who knows, just don't know.
But I'm excited about this. These after life plans. Yeah, the casting that's brilliant. Right.
Brilliant. Casting call. Oh my God. I love it.
I love it. I like, I wear Disney gel. Oh gosh. That's my right.
It's go for it. What's really all I had. This was kind of shorter one. You really did the switcheroo on me there and I had in my head about we're going to this road, we're going to see this headless woman.
I'm going to be terrified. I'm okay with the Ford. Like, everything in my head that. The Ford is fine.
The Ford is chill. The Ford is, yeah, you know, whatever that could be fun. But then the headless woman, I was like, oh no, no, I'm, I can't. Haley's going to be the passenger on that one.
I'll drive and we'll get the hell out of there. But now you mess me up because it's fake. So now we're not going there. Damn it.
Well, I think we should still go. Won't you shout out Dixie? I will. You are going to hang out the window at Dixie.
I know. And I think there's like a song like a I can't whistle Dixie. Whistle and Dixie? Yeah.
Okay. You have to do that too. I think it's part of it. So you're going to start.
I can't whistle. That's okay. I can't whistle. That's a problem.
But you can dance and make your bones crack. I can't make my bones crack. They do crack quite a bit. Oh, wow.
That's a story. Wow. Haley, do you have a shout out this time? I sure do.
Sure sure do. We're going to do. Marietta, Georgia. Well, thank you, Marietta, Georgia.
Yeah, thanks. We appreciate you listening to this. Sorry, that was not as excited as I wanted to be. Thanks, Georgia.
That was better. Wow. I don't know if I would cast you. I don't know if I would cast me either.
I feel like, you know, you kind of always hang out just really even killed. Mm-hmm. Killed, huh? But I feel like we need we need to see some dynamics in the performance, Haley.
I need some shouting, some hollering. I don't mean just like, of your bones. I need a little bit more from you. I have to believe it.
Yeah. I don't think I'm going to get into crack right now. No. Okay.
Needless to say, I don't know if Haley's going to get a job at my firm in the afterlife. We'll see. We'll keep some time. Hopefully.
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Yeah, come and hang out. We're a good time. Well, yeah, we're good. I'm like normally in bed by 10 and I go and scratch a lot.
Yeah. But besides that, we're great. Great. Bye.
All right, y'all. We'll see you next time. Bye. Bye.