The Lost Colony

Hi, I'm Holly. And I'm Hailey. Welcome to Mountain Mysteries Tales from Appalachia. Hi friends.

Hello. Wow. Life is a highway, isn't it? Sure is.

We're just riding it all night long. Yep. Yeah. It's been special.

These last couple weeks we've talked about Hailey's STD. We still don't know. Still not sure. Still don't know.

Which... Have you had any itching? None. Okay.

No burning. No itching. No, no sores. Just a small one.

Glad. Oh yeah. It hurts bad. I would prefer that too.

Yeah, to the sif. Downstairs. Yeah. Thanks.

Yeah. So I kind of did a thing. My son likes to go outside and play. And he's a young boy.

He likes to go outside and be adventurous and do things and things. So he was outside a couple weeks ago. And I was inside working, typing away. He gets out of school earlier, so I kind of have to still continue working around him.

So he yells out to me, hey mom. Can I paint my backhoe? He's got this cute little kid backhoe that's adorable. And I said, huh?

And he goes, yeah, with the paint from the garage. And I said, you may not know. And he said, kind of already did it. So I...

He said, oh, and some other things. So I came outside to check. First I see this backhoe that is covered in repost gray, which is a lovely light gray color. And I'm like, oh.

He said, oh yeah. And look. I mean, it stripes in the driveway. He had taken a roller and he had rolled stripes along my driveway so that it could look like a road.

Okay. He said, oh yeah. And I did some of the brick on house, which is natural brick. It's not, you know, I didn't know anything.

I was like, oh, and then the door that leads into the garage. I couldn't believe it. And he wanted me to know that he... I said, how did you do this?

Because the paint can was closed. He took the little, you know, Jimmy thing and he opened the paint can. He told... Did tell me he stirred it though first.

Okay. Like, oh, good. Great. Thank you.

I'm glad we went through the protocol of painting. And then he painted and he said, doesn't it look great? I did great job. Didn't I?

And I was like, I couldn't speak. Just rare for me. We all know that. I just stood there in silence and shock and I thought in my head this is going to be expensive.

And he said, so just want me to go up to my room now. And I was like, uh-huh. And he said, oh, I've got paint all over my hands too. And I was like, wash your hands.

Go to your room. And so he does. And later in the day, you know, we're all kind of coming back to ourselves. And I'm just processing it all.

And he yells out from the bathroom while he's washing his hands after dinner. And he says, you know, it really is your fault. And I said, I'm sorry. What?

He says, I mean, you really should lock stuff up away from me. This really is your fault. And I said, you know, I didn't anticipate that you would know where to get that little opener thing that you would remove a gallon of paint that you would put it in a bucket, use a roller and start rolling it. But I know crazy.

I know. But I didn't anticipate that son. So what'd you do? Like to fix it?

Uh, well, I had to repaint the door that goes into my garage, which meant I had to paint my front door because those two match. So I had to pay that. Um, I haven't done anything yet to the driveway. I've been told that googon, like spraying googon and then pressure washing it will most likely get it off of my driveway and then also potentially off of the brick.

But I'm also contemplating painting the brick anyway. So it's, I don't know. Wow. Did you all hear that?

That's some hard work. It's still going. I will also throw out that my son, we were outside and he got ahold of a hammer from the garage of course. And he started chiseling away at my retaining wall.

Yeah. Yeah. And some pieces of stone started falling off and I was like, what in the heck? I come around with my garden nose and I'm like, what are you doing?

And he was like, oh yeah, I just grabbed the hammer and just started, you know, peeling off the stone. Yeah. Folks ADHD is real. And that's it.

Education is your friend. Don't let people tell you it's not. Seriously. So, um, yeah.

So can you any work done at your house? I mean, I have no help to call. Yeah. He'll be there.

I appreciate it. He's got a backhoe. Yeah. Wow.

He can paint. I'm wearing that summer I was moving into my house. That's true. He was around.

You know, though, I was thinking about it. We used to go over there all the time. I know. I don't think we went over there last year for your mom and grandma's birthday, but really like over there.

They were like hang out. Oh my gosh. Life's just been crazy. Two and a half years.

Yeah. Probably the last time we recorded at your house with my son every bit was like 20, early 20, 20, early 20. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

It's been wild. Yeah. Oh, I hopefully you invite us back one day. I mean, after the stiff clears up.

Yeah. After that clears up and you know, my son is in on another paint job. Yeah. If he's not, you know, if we can coordinate schedules.

Right. He works a lot. Yeah. Yeah.

That painting business is tough. There really is. Oh gosh. What do you have for us today?

Well, I want to talk about the loss colony of Roanoke. Of Roanoke. Yeah. Virginia Dair.

Yeah. So I, for spring break, my family always goes to the Outer Banks and we go on spring break because both myself and my boyfriend work in the school system. So we have the same spring break. So we are able to make it together and then everybody else has to take that week off work for vacation, which makes myself.

Yeah. So we always go out there for spring break. So I was like, well, let me try to find a fun little story about, you know, the Outer Banks and I was like, what better story than the lost colony? Heck yeah.

Yeah. The story. So if you don't know the story of the lost colony, I'm going to give you kind of the bridged version because there's a lot of historical events that go into it. And when I started doing the research for this, the Thunder is Wild here.

There is a parkour. I tried to like give all the history and I was like, you know, it's just a bunch of white dudes on boats and boats that land place. And I was like, I can't. Spoken like a true witch with syphilis.

I can't get into all of that. So we're just going to talk about, we're going to give you the highlights. They come. They do bad things.

Yeah. They come, they do bad things. They pillage, they rape, they murder, they give people the yellow fever. It's real bad.

The sif. The sif, even that. Okay. So we're just kind of going to go through this whole thing.

So John White is the guy who was like, you know, leading this voyage or whatever. So he comes over, brings the colony. We're going to get into a little bit more later, but he comes back, he leaves to get supplies, get stuck. There's some type of war happening.

So he gets stuck in the war and then he comes back, colony is gone. So this is around 1587. So he leaves his whole family, right? So he has a family there in the US.

He has to go back for goods to England. So he sails back, gets stuck there. But by the time that he comes back, everybody's gone. So there had been a, there was a settlement of two story that's through cottages, all these things.

It was the first like planned colony in the new world. And they happened at Roanoke. That's where they landed. That's where they set up to have this colony was good.

They're like, this will work. So this was kind of their first attempt at having settlers, like build a settlement, not just hay, we're here to pillage in war. So they were about 115 people that were in this colony. When he got back, it was Baron.

The houses that had all been taken down, there was a roughly built fort that surrounded the settlement. And that's all that really signaled that there had even been people there at all. There was a post carved, one of only two words, or one or two clues, the word Croat Toen was carved on a post. And then there was another tree that the letters CRO were carved.

So that's literally the only clue we have of where these people went. There should have been small cannons and boats near the bay. They were gone. There were chests with drawings, maps and books that White had buried nearby years ago.

They were torn apart and ruined by weather. There were no bones found, no corpses, no evidence to show what had happened to people, except for this hastily built fortress. And nobody ever found any of these people. They were just gone.

Literally looked like they vanished into the air. So these are the group of people that become known as the Lost Colony of Roanoke. If you were from the San Bernardino, you'd spend a whole unit on this in fourth grade and then again in seventh grade and then again in tenth grade. In tenth grade, yeah.

When you do American history, they usually throw in a little North Carolina history if you're from that state or whatever state you're from, you do your own state history. But yeah, so we were obsessed with the Lost Colony. That's like our claim to fame here in North Carolina. That Virginia Dair was the first child born in the new colony.

So John White's child, Virginia Dair, was the first baby who was born in the colony and she disappeared too. Yeah. And that's why you go out to the Outer Banks and you enter Dair County named after her before you turn on to Highway 12, which takes you down into Hatteras and which is still part of Dair County. That's what we get all of our names, like Sir Walter Raleigh.

Yeah. And you know, so by the people are people. They are a part of it. Yep.

Okay. So to get a little history here, there were two expeditions to Roanoke before the Lost Colony was established in 1587. The first was exploratory, so they kind of went and soaked it out. The second was in 1585 and it consisted of 100 men who lived on the island for about 10 months before returning to England.

So these really early expeditions like this, they kind of deteriorated any kind of goodwill in the relationships with the native people that were living there and that they had toward the English. The settlers would routinely kidnap local tribal leaders and held them for ransom despite relying on them for food and supplies. So brings a new meaning to don't fight the hand of the people. Yeah, not great.

Not great. Yeah. So not super great relations. When the 100 men left the 1585 colony, it was due to constant threat of attack and waning food.

Had they waited for about two more weeks, the men would have received supplies from England. The ship arrived and they found the colony deserted. They left behind 15 soldiers just to maintain an English presence until another group of colonists could be brought. So there was a ship on the way.

Obviously, you can't ring up the people on land and let them know because it was the 1500s. So, yeah, not going to work. Carrier pigeon probably wasn't even a thing either. Smoke signals, not on a boat.

So you don't want that. Not going to go well. Yeah, we'll send Haley. Yeah.

Get in there, witch. So the next group that came would end up being the lost colony, that group. The 1587 settler population included women and children and looked much more like later successful colonies. So it was set up to succeed.

Their arrival at Roanoke Island was kind of not great. They roll up and they find the settlement abandoned shambles. The bones of one of the 15 soldiers there before them were the only physical evidence of what had happened to the previous settlers. So it's not looking great.

So you boarded this vessel with your family and you're like, we're going on this grand adventure to the new world. You roll up, you find dilapidated accommodations and bones. So and just to think about this, okay, you're leaving everything to go to this new world and you're on a boat for God knows how months you go through, you know, crazy seas, you puke, you do all the things, maybe get burnt. I don't know.

Yeah. Do all the things and you finally get to land and you're like, oh shit. It's not great. It's not great.

Well, all you want to do is go back to the UK. And what's really interesting about if you've never been to the out of it, do you ever go to the out of it? Yes. Yes.

Okay. So, you know, it's beautiful and it's very rugged. Yes. Still.

I mean, you have little villages that have like vacation homes and stuff like that. So where my family stays, we typically stay in Avon, which, you know, each of the towns down through there have, you know, but it's still not a lot. And there's not like a lot to do. There's and yeah.

So it's mostly houses. It's a lot of fishing. But when you're in like, you leave the town on your way to the next town, it's all like national park land, like protected land. So I would imagine it's very similar to how it was.

I mean, a lot more land because of coastal erosion is a thing and like it's crazy down there. Yeah. Not some of the beach shops. Right.

Yeah. But when you're like in the national park land, it's probably pretty like, yeah, that's probably what they rolled up on. Yeah. And it's like, it literally is like nothing.

Like it's barren. Yeah. There's some, you know, dune grass. Yes.

Some trees. Yep. That's about it. So, um, yeah, a little, you know, they have that seaside property going.

Yeah. I mean, it is beautiful, but it's, it's pretty barren. Yeah. Okay.

So they were led by Governor John White, who we talked about. And he had actually been a member of the 1585 colony that had been there a few years before. And then he went back. So he's leading this group now.

So these new colonists, they sought to carve out a new life on the North Carolina island. They managed to get along with the nearby tribe, the Poetans, who lived on Croaton Island, which was nearby. There were other tribes in the area and they kind of maintain their distance from them. So everybody kind of like, they made friends with the Poetans, but the other tribes, they kind of were like, they, everybody just left each other alone, that kind of thing, which is probably a good plan.

So this however did leave the colonists pretty dependent on supplies from England because they weren't making these relations with the native people because that kind of had been really destroyed by the first two rounds of people that came through there. So they, they didn't have that kind of mutual aid sort of situation going on there. So they were lying on England. So in August of 1887, Governor White leaves to get more provisions.

And like we said before, he gets stuck over there for a little bit. There's a war, gotta do things. So it's a couple years, I feel like, it's a couple years before he comes back. So when he comes back, he finds the colony, including his daughter, son-in-law and granddaughter, Virginia Dair, we talked about, he was the first English child born in North America.

They're all gone. So he sees the word Croaton carved into the tree or into the post there. Obviously that's, he's thinking that's gotta be a clue, it's the where they went. So he's thinking maybe, I don't know if I'd say that.

Wow. Good job. Yeah, quite manate about it. So he thinks, you know, maybe they've moved in search of protection or of a more city food supply from the Poetans.

It didn't look like they had left under duress. There were no Maltese crosses carved anywhere, which was the agreed upon symbol that colonists would use if danger was a flip. Interesting, a Maltese cross. Yeah.

I don't know what that looks like. I don't either, but the country of Malta is gorgeous. So, oh my God. I dropped my meat mobile.

You're my bio fan. You would flip the Maltese cross. They didn't find me those there. So they were like, okay, so not under duress.

Everybody was chill. What's going on? So, you know, my first thought would be I roll up on this place and I see that they've written Croaton on there. My first thought would be, hey, maybe we should be Bop on over to Croaton Island and check and see if the people are there.

Like that sounds reasonable, right? Yes. That sounds like something we should do. Yes.

That was not done. I mean, were they fearful that they were going to get killed? I don't know. So they didn't search the Croaton Islands or the island.

It was never there was no search party that ever went there. There were other expeditions to locate the lost colony. Those either failed or were undertaken as an excuse for piracy. Great.

They said, hey, yeah, we'll try to go find those guys. And then they were like, nah, we're going to be pirates instead. Harg. I mean, yeah.

Harg. So Multi's Cross is a symbol of the Knight's Hospitaler, basically later the Knights of Saint John, and now used as a symbol for fire service. Oh. So is it that they'll cross with like the little like, yeah, for a crusader sacrifice?

Kind of. Okay. So it's like a cross, but it's got little sections to it. Yeah.

Almost. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Makes sense. Okay. So there was none of those there. No.

Okay. So we've got some groups that have gone on to look. When it was established in 1607, that was when the only real searches were conducted to try to figure out what happened to these girls. You're like too little too late, you know?

Yeah, you know, yeah. So not only were the colonists themselves lost, the colony itself was lost, like the actual place. So there was poor record keeping by white and others, as well as just years of abandonment that have kept the exact location of that 1587 colony a mystery. So nobody can actually pinpoint.

He's like, I don't know. It all looks the same to me. Yeah. Nobody really knows.

So there were numerous digs on Roanoke and they failed to produce any evidence of the lost colony. Remnants of the settlement have been discovered, but there's no evidence of the people being found. So one problem is that there are different primary sources. They all kind of tell different stories.

So from Governor White's writings, the second settlement should be located near the first on the north end of the island. But in 18, at 1589, affidavit of a Spanish sailor puts the settlement near the center of the island where the cannons were stationed. So it's just weird. There was an old well and a small cannon found near the bay, and that supports the affidavit of the Spanish sailor.

Some historians now believe that the 1587 Roanoke settlement probably lies underwater due to centuries of coastal erosion, which would make total sense. Because I don't know if you haven't seen the Otterbanks, seen a picture of what it looks like or seen videos of the houses falling into the ocean. That's happening regularly. It's eroding away.

Eventually, it's just not going to be there anymore. So that makes total sense to me. Okay. So for 400 years, Europeans have searched to try to figure out what happened to the lost colony.

We're all fascinated with it. I'm fascinated by it. There's some interesting clues that turned up early on beginning with the Jamestown Settlers. So nobody really knows what happened.

Not a clue. There's a lot of theories out there. Even ones that they went to live with. So Croton.

Yeah. And the Poetence. Oh, the Poetence who lived in? Oh, Croton.

Croton. Yeah. Yeah. There's theories that little Virginia Dair was raised in the community.

And there's like sightings. Yeah, we're going to talk about that. Okay. So there's all kinds of theories.

So Governor John White was obviously the first person to just cover the colonists that disappeared. He reported everything that he saw in a letter. He said there's no bones, like those that had been left behind from the 1585 colony. So nobody, no bones.

The houses had been, quote, taken down, not destroyed or burned. So like they had literally just taken everything down. Yeah. Think of it like Lincoln logs.

Okay. It's kind of like what we're doing here. Got it. They took it down.

Or magnatiles. Yeah. The Croton carving didn't indicate distress with the Maltese cross. Everything pointed to, they just up and left.

According to White's letter, the colonists were prepared to move, quote, 50 miles to the main. So this could mean that they moved to the mainland into the forests of North Carolina. Oh, that's pretty far. That's a journey.

Another explanation could be that they fell victim to the Spanish whose settlement was just down the coast in Florida. So it's certain that the Spanish in the West Indies were aware of English colonists' presence. One row in Euchcettler named Darby Gland left the 1587 expedition. Once it set ashore in Puerto Rico to take supplies.

And he later reported that he told the Spanish officials the location of the row in Euchcettlements. So they're thinking maybe the Spanish came up and like, kill everybody. You do have to remember that at this time, England, Spain, they all were in competition with each other to get there first. Yeah.

To be the first one to land in the Americas and like set their territory. Yeah. So it was a big deal. Okay.

So there's an anthropologist named Lee Miller who works at Johns Hopkins University. And his opinion is that the colonists were deliberately left at Roanoke by Sir Francis Walsingham, who was Secretary of the State of Queen Elizabeth I. In hopes of a colony would not survive to bring down Sir Walter Raleigh, a favorite of the queen. Raleigh had funded the expedition to Roanoke.

He had received a patent to all the land in the New World. He could settle, which is kind of crazy. The key had wanted the last group to settle in the Chesapeake Bay area instead. The colonists and inverteously wandered into a violent shift in the balance of power among inland tribes.

These tribes within the colonists were friendly, lost their hold over the area and Native Americans became hostile to the settlers and took control. This kind of the theory. If the Roanoke colonists made the trip inland when this happened, the men with the likely been killed and the women and children captured as slaves. The colonists would have been traded along a route that spanned the U.S.

coast from President Georgia to Virginia. That's also possible. It's also possible that they met a less violent end and went to Crowton Island, which was 50 miles south of the settlement. The Jamestown colonists sent out several search parties to find members of the lost colony.

They made a habit of questioning any Native American with whom the Jamestown members made contact with. They would talk to anybody that came across to you like, hey, have you seen this whole heart of white people? The Roanoke people? I don't know.

Have you seen this white man? Have you seen the white man? Do you like a stick figure? We actually killed him.

I don't know. I hate them for dinner. I don't know. Yeah, you do.

So some of the Natives told stories of white settlements further down the coast with two story Thastrop houses, which was that unique style. Others told of nearby tribes who could read English and dress similarly to the Europeans. Perhaps the most dramatic report was the sighting of a boy dressed as a native. He had blonde hair and was fierce skinned.

Interesting. And the reports kind of corroborate the most widely held theory, which is kind of what I believe happened, is that they assimilated into this Native American tribe that they were already kind of friendly with. And over the course of generations, intermarriage between Natives and English would produce a third distinct group. And some people say this might be the Lumbee tribe.

Interesting. So there's no... Lumbee tribe is Native to North Carolina, yet no certain lineage can really be pinned down. The tribe's oral history links them to the Roanoke settlers.

And this tradition is supported by some of their surnames and the tribe's ability to read and write English. Family names of some of the Roanoke colonists like Dial, Hyatt, and Taylor were shared by Lumbee tribe members as early as 1719. The settlers who met them were really surprised to find these Native American individuals had gray eyes and spoke English. Even within the Lumbee tribe, the veracity of the group's link to the Roanoke colonists is into dispute though.

The Lumbee connection is what the theory is kind of called. So that's the meaning possible. There have been recent excavations in Birdie County, North Carolina. There's a location called Site X.

Archaeologists there have found dozens of English-style artifacts that date back to the 1500s. The site is situated near the mouth of Salmon Creek and was near a major Native American community called Metaclem. So findings from these excavations include lead seals and bales of cloth, firearm components, and tinder hooks meant for stretching animal hides. So they found a lot of these old things.

There's another site that's adjacent to Site X called Site Y, and the authors there discovered eight different types of ceramics. What about Site Z? I don't think we have a Site Zamix. Just X and Y.

So it's possible that there was a severe drought and the subsequent inability to grow crops that drove the colony from its original locations to Site X and Y. Historians believe that these might have been kind of a fallback like Plan B community of sorts, where part of the group might have gone to. If a group broke up, they're saying part of these people may have gone on to this Plan B tribe, and the other part might have integrated into the local Native tribes. Yeah, so for now, research continues.

In 2019, historians and archaeologists were buoyed by the North Carolina Coastal Land Trust, which bought the lands around Site X and Y to save them from being turned into a housing development. The land is now under state control and is part of a natural preserve, and researchers will be allowed to continue to look and work there as part of protected land, which is nice. So they're still excavating and looking for things and doing all the things, but there's no salancers. It's just always these mysteries.

What happened to a million-air heart? What happened to the lost colony? Have you ever seen unto these hills? No.

Okay, so unto these hills is a play that they do in this area, and it's fantastic, and it's all about the lost colony. I know. It's pretty cool. But most people theorize that, yes, they integrated themselves into the Native American culture and subsequently lived out their days there.

That's kind of my thought. Or if they were all killed, the bodies are somewhere else. Like they took the bodies with them to burn or bury or something. But if that was the plan, why gently take down their homes?

Because it's not like burn them or, you know, this doesn't make sense. I think they integrated personally. I think that they just joined up with this tribe that was friendly to them, and they were friendly with them. Yeah, I think so too.

And also maybe they were just waiting for John to get on the boat and they were like- Get out of there and they were like, can we just hang out with you because John's kind of a tyrant? Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I think that's my opinion on what happened.

Obviously, it's a great mystery. But- And probably always will be. Mm-hmm. Probably so.

Well, that was a good story, Hannah. Thank you. I think we're entertaining us with stories of white men on boats. White men on boats?

Yeah. Yeah. Can't trust them. Well, I don't know.

I get seasick. I do. I can't. Okay.

All right. So I'm going to throw this out. I have been contemplating because my colleague recently went on a cruise. Oh, no.

I've contemplated it. However, I get very seasick and I would have to bring them up right now. I'm not asleep the whole time. Okay.

Yeah. I mean, I'm not sad about you being unconscious. I mean, I'm used to that. But I just don't think I would do very well on a boat.

I don't think so either. My boyfriend's terrified of boats. And we made him get on the ferry when we were in the Outer Banks and went from Hatteras to Overcoach. So I heard something recently and it did bring up a little, huh?

So having ancestors who came over on boats to the country, maybe they experienced some nausea and they experienced similar sensations and feelings. So it's kind of genetically built in your system here. So you get on a boat and you're like, I'm going to puke. Maybe.

I'm not weighing cars too. I am too. That's why I have to drive. I can't sit in the back.

I can barely sit in the passenger seat. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I just fly.

But I will say I get stuck on planes. I do. So I took a dorama mean years ago, myself and my colleague Michelle, we went to a conference in Chicago and we were on the plane and like I took the dorama mean because, you know, anytime I feel the plane descending and that, that is when I would start to get sent. That's me too.

The descent. And so I was doing better. I was doing okay. They were coming back and I looked down and I could almost reach out and touch the target sign.

We were that close. And I was like Michelle, Michelle, we're almost here. I could see the target sign and I looked at her and she is the most cool like person like just chill. Com collected just, you know, easy going person.

And she's over there going like I was like shell. And she was like just let me know when it's over. Just let me know when we landed and she was freaking out. So, you know, I wasn't alone, which was a nice feeling.

So I've tried to do flights where, especially if I am flying somewhere and then immediately to do something to not take dream or something like that, because I am so groggy and exhausted. So I tried to do that. I was flying back home from New York when I was living up there and I was flying into the Asheville airport, which is a tiny, tiny airport anyway. Getting much bigger now.

So my family was going to pick me up to drive me, you know, back to where I live. And I was like, OK, I'm not going to take anything. Like, I'll be fine. And I'm sitting there.

And I was fine the entire flight until we start to go down. And I just very calmly, like I'm sitting in the seat. And I'm in the very back of the plane. That's like a tiny plane.

I can turn to my right. And I see the stewardess or the flight attendant or whatever they're called. Whatever they're like to be called. She was sitting there in the jump seat.

Oh, no. With her. Like she buckled in, like ready to land. And I look over to her.

And because usually they put a bag in the back of the seat because I know people get sick. And I was looking for the bag. And I was like, oh, god, there's not a bag. And I even looked at my seatmate.

And they didn't have a bag either. I was like, oh shit. So I was like, I just lean over. And I'm like, like, excuse me, ma'am.

And just like, oh, yes. Can I help you? And I was like, do you happen to have a bag, like a vomit bag? And I say it so calmly that she's like, a what?

And I'm like, oh, I'm going to throw a bag. Do you have a bag? And she's like, oh my god, yes. So she's like getting me things.

And I just wretch into this bag. And god bless this week girl. Sitting beside me, she was a student who was coming. I don't know where she was going.

But she was also student. And she leans over. And she just starts rubbing my bag. And she's like, it's OK.

She's like, this happens. And she's like explaining to me the biology of why this is happening. Because she was in type of medical student or something. You're like, I don't know.

I'm stretching into the bag. I'm like, so I just slowly take the bag away from my face. And I look at her. And I'm like, thank you so much.

And so then I just have to roll my bag up. And the lady comes by with a trash can. And I have to drop my puke bag into the trash bag. And it was just a really horrid experience.

People are looking at me. They're like, oh, god, she's sick. Now this whole tear can starts going to be sick. And I'm like, I'm not contagious.

I just can't. My body hates me. No, I understand. I was flying back from Arizona.

And I was on this flight with a young lady from Prescott, or Prescott, Arizona. And we were chit chatting. It was lovely. It was great.

Then we got over Texas and Oklahoma. And they were having storms. And so it was shake, shake. Oh my god.

Herbulence was so bad. And I was terrified. And she so kindly just reaches over and grabs my hand. And she's like, it's OK.

And I was like, I will puke. But luckily, I ended up OK. I was so I just it's so disconcerting. Because there's nothing you can do.

It's not like you can be like, let me pull over. Let me get all this bumpy road. It's like someone else is flying. You're in this tin can.

Oh god, am I going to die? Anyway, so I made it. It was fine. But then the pilot came over the intercom and said, sorry about that, folks.

We are having some pretty heavy storms here in the southwest Midwest region. But we'll be past it soon. And I was never so happy to get to Arkansas. Who knew?

The fly through Arkansas. Yeah. I tend to find though, I've been on a couple of different international flights. I don't have any trouble on those.

Interesting. Usually, yeah. It's just the US. Just the US.

I guess because it's like maybe a different altitude or something, like when you're flying international, maybe a higher altitude. I think so. Maybe. I don't know.

Smither, smither, smither, jet. Smither, sailing. Well, this was fun. Yeah, it was great.

Smither, sailing. But I'm bummed. Yeah. Listen, y'all.

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Do you have a shout out this time? Hey. I do. Hang on.

Let me scroll. Good grief. I just like to do a random scroll. Let's go.

Saratoga Springs, New York. Yay. Thank you. I like it.

Come sail away. Come sail away. Come sail away with me. No.

Yeah. Sticks. Yeah. I love sticks.

I love sticks. Ah. How do we not know this? I don't know, but I love them.

Me too. I love sticks. It's a great time. All right.

Well, we're going to go listen to the sticks and all this. And all right. Renegade. Bye.

Bye.