The Reformists: Where They've Been and Where They're Going

In this episode, we sit down with Meredith Sumpter, CEO of FairVote, and Rob Richie, who led the organization for more than three decades, for a wide-ranging conversation on the democracy reform movement. Together, they reflect on how the movement has evolved over time, from strategy and language to public awareness, as well as what core principles have remained constant. Meredith and Rob also discuss the current inflection point for reforms like ranked choice voting and proportional representation, and what recent wins and setbacks reveal about the road ahead. Finally, they share their perspectives on where the movement is headed next, and what it will take to build a more representative, resilient democracy in the years to come.Learn more about the issues we cover at expanddemocracy.org and find our analyses on the state of our democracy on Substack.