The Spread of AI Data Centers Triggers Voter Backlash

from Velshi · host Ali Velshi, Mark McKinnon, Abby Livingston, J. Michael Luttig, Michaël Trazzi, Sen. Jon Tester, Ben Rhodes, Karen Tumulty, Jacob Rubashkin, Shira Scheindlin, Nick Cutter

An artificial intelligence insider warns the quick spread of the technology is “a red line we can't cross;” former Sen. Jon Tester comes from a family of Montana farmers and worries his generation could be the last; plus former Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes has a new book that delves into what it means to be an American and who gets to decide. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Ali Velshi is joined by anti-A.I. activist Michaël Trazzi, former Senator Jon Tester (D-MT), and former Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes.

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