The Waggle Room - Ep19 - Susie Palmer-Trew - The Everyday Change Revolution

Susie Palmer-Trew, founder of Everyday Change and author of 'The Everyday Change Playbook (because change doesn't need to be shit)', joins Mick for a refreshing conversation about making change work for real humans. From her background as a student union president to building a business that champions everyday change over transformation theatre, Susie brings a grounded, no-nonsense perspective to how organisations can actually get things done.## Key Topics• Why we inflate everyday change into massive 'transformations' and who benefits from this theatre• The reality that most change is just normal people doing normal things in normal ways• How Big Four consultancies set the rules of the game and why we all play along• Finding leadership at every level of the organisation, not just in the C-suite• The importance of adult-to-adult conversations instead of parent-child dynamics• Using AI practically to free up time for actual human interaction## Where to Listen- Website: https://thewaggleroom.com- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheWaggleRoom- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/TheWaggleRoom- Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-waggle-room/id1879089102- Substack: https://substack.com/@mickbrian## Guest InfoSusie Palmer-Trew is the founder of Everyday Change and The Grove Club. She's written two books: 'Project Management is All Bollocks' (co-authored with Peter Taylor) and 'The Everyday Change Playbook (because change doesn't need to be shit)'. Connect with Susie on LinkedIn where she shares candid insights about making change work for real people in real organisations.