EPISODE · Jan 22, 2026 · 25 MIN
The Weight of History: Professor Michael Kelly and Winnye Tu on Learning Law Where Justice Was Born
from From the Mall: The Creighton Podcast · host Creighton University
Professor Michael Kelly and law student Winnye Tu reflect on Creighton’s Nuremberg to the Hague program and what it means to study law in the very places where history unfolded. From courtrooms in The Hague to the camps of Auschwitz and Birkenau, they describe how standing inside these spaces transforms how students understand justice, responsibility, and the lasting consequences of international crimes.Throughout the conversation, Kelly explains how the program prepares students through months of academic study and guided reflection, while Tu shares the emotional and personal impact of encountering history firsthand. Together, they explore how memory, advocacy, and legal education intersect, and why creating new witnesses to history remains essential in the fight against Holocaust denial and antisemitism.The episode offers a rare look at how immersive learning shapes future advocates and how Creighton continues its long tradition of contributing to international criminal justice.
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Professor Michael Kelly and law student Winnye Tu reflect on Creighton’s Nuremberg to the Hague program and what it means to study law in the very places where history unfolded. From courtrooms in The Hague to the camps of Auschwitz and Birkenau, they describe how standing inside these spaces transforms how students understand justice, responsibility, and the lasting consequences of international crimes.Throughout the conversation, Kelly explains how the program prepares students through months of academic study and guided reflection, while Tu shares the emotional and personal impact of encountering history firsthand. Together, they explore how memory, advocacy, and legal education intersect, and why creating new witnesses to history remains essential in the fight against Holocaust denial and antisemitism.The episode offers a rare look at how immersive learning shapes future advocates and how Creighton continues its long tradition of contributing to international criminal justice.
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