This week's episode of The Wild Card Podcast is brought to you by 200 episodes of The Wild Card Podcast. We just want to thank all of you for listening to us for the past four and a half years on that. Let's get this thing started. Yeah!
Hi! Why are you married? Tommy Wiseau? What are you doing here?
Didn't you die several times during the course of several episodes and then disappear and disappear and disappear as nature has rightly dictated? Yeah, but I came back to wish you a happy 200th episode. Thank you, Tommy. Your appreciation is...
Um... Appreciate it. But not required. Or wanted.
Say, where have you been anyway? Hello... It's the cops. I have to hide.
Gentlemen. Arbogast! It's Arbogast! I came back to congratulate you on your 200th episode and also because there's been...
Is that Tommy Wiseau? Oh, hi Arbogast! Why are you hiding? I thought you were the cops.
I am the cops. Why are you hiding from the cops? Just in case. I see.
Should I come out? No. Stay down there and stick wide. If he can.
Oh really, Jeff? I'll show you I can be quiet. How big 50 bucks he can? You're on, smart guy.
Starting. Now. That was brilliant. I know.
Well played. Thanks. Can I borrow 50 bucks? Here.
It's a win win. What were you saying, Agent RBS? I was saying. There's been a murder.
Oh my God! You got zooks and crazy sallies! A murder you say. That's right.
A murder. A murder. A murder. Yes.
Who was murder? A small Dickensian child. Like this one, please sir. You're pinching my scruff.
Quiet you. Okay, so the Dickensian child was more missing than Ben. So there hasn't been a murder. There has.
We thought there'd been. Why do you have this small Dickensian child? For good luck. I see.
Does it work? Have you seen my life? Who was the other murder victim? I didn't say there'd been a second murder yet, did I?
I was distracted by that small Dickensian child. That's one usually is sir. I'm quite adorable and it's interesting to hear me talk about even the most mundane things because of my sweet accent and precocious demeanor. I'm both precious and wise.
You sure are good. So the second murder? How can it be the second murder if there wasn't a first murder? Who has been murdered?
Oh right. Some guy. We were more worried about the Dickensian child. I did you a good day.
Wait a minute. We can help you figure out the other murder. That's a great idea. I was also in the games of Foote so I know a little something about murder.
You did see the third Sherlock, right? The Houndabaster Vils? Yeah. Tell us about this murder, Agent Arbaguest.
Let's do an overindulgent flashback instead. What the hell? It's the 200 episode. But make it quick.
This sketch is going long and I'm tuckered out from all the writing. You got a little chunk. The murder happened around 3.30 a.m. Hey, no, why don't you borrow the drink?
Sure thing. What's your poison? He was poisoned. That's right.
That old chestnut. So there are no actual murders to be solved? I'm afraid not. So you really just gave my to wishes a happy 200th?
And Dr. Ron about the murder to Kinsey and Child. I'm right here, sir. That you are, sir.
That you are. But really wasn't this just an excuse to bring back some beloved characters from previous commercials? Sturu, you buddy. I can't do poop on the studio.
Not only that, but it was an excuse to make Jared work harder than he ever has during a commercial. Mission accomplished. Hey, you guys know you got a fucking show to do, right? Yep.
I'm already there. I'm already there. Hey! Hey, you guys owe me 50 bah!
Welcome to the Wild Card Podcast. I'm your host, Jared Eaton, and my co-pilots on this Journey to Wherever are my good friends, Jeff Curtis. Hello. We've got 100 episodes now.
We've had to sit here and listen to his rantings, ravings, nonsense, and bullshit. And without that ranting, raving, nonsense, and bullshit, we wouldn't have a podcast. The last of 200 episodes. We'd be boring as hell.
You probably wouldn't be listening. He is the Wild Card, my dear friend Ron Blair. Thank you. Thank you.
And thank you. Thank you guys. Additionally, joining us, we've got an extra special treat today. You've got the house.
Yeah, we know. It's just back in the neighborhood. I'm gonna go on a mister, guys. We missed you.
Takes a lot to the house. I know. I know. I know.
I know. I do it every Sunday. That's the dream right there. I live here.
I'm gonna go downstairs. There's some art. Jeff didn't even know we were podcasting. No, we showed up.
He's just sitting there. He's like, hey, turn those mic on. That's how much this guy did. That's how my video set up, everything's always ready to go.
Me, and people just show up and I turn on the mic. 4 1,5 years ago, me and Jared just walked. Came to this house and were like, hey, we heard you had some. I knew, I couldn't see two people.
Because it'd be weird. So I should have nailed Ron and we could have had his time. Right, so the box was sitting there when I showed up. I luckily put a hold in a toy debris.
I think Jared was on my shoulders. shoulders and we put on a big French coat and we came here to like this. I'm one person wanting to record a podcast. Well, all right.
I sits here 10 foot men at a giant rate code. Why wouldn't I? That's a better than a Russian doll. If one of us were Russian doll with 10 little lessons inside of it, you don't want that.
I would like that for five minutes. Then I'd want to kick all of your. Yeah. Once the novelty is done.
And then you see where like a bunch of fucking gremlins and you can't feed us after midnight or get water on us. Let me say this. I love Rundler. I love one Rundler.
10 little Rundlers. Probably be nine too many. It's probably nine and a half too many. I would say.
No, I actually like a lot of Rundler. I appreciate it. I can hang out with Rundler for hours and hours and enjoy his company. You could hang out with two of us because Kimsey was like hanging out with me when I'm on Bullshit.
She's the best part of you without all the bullshits. That's what I've done. I'm like, you took the best parts and none of the bullshit. All the bullshit went to Kailen.
And now he's like, thanks, man. You fucking prick. It's like the two sides of Ron. Yeah.
Like he's still got the good parts of me. They're just the good bad parts of me. But you know what? Here's the thing though, even though there are those bad parts of you.
Yeah. They make you up without you. You were not here by without you. There's no one out there who has any idea what this podcast is all about.
Should I tell them? I think you should well you tell them. I might well tell them. I might tell them well.
The Wild Card podcast is about time we acknowledge that the 200th episode commercial was missing. Mothman. That's true. Save you.
Are the human race and purveyor of waffles and pancakes? Pancakes? Pancakes? Pancakes?
What the fuck are pancakes? I lost the Mothman voice. I actually listened to that episode this week with the pancake commercial. I don't remember anything that has happened in my life before today.
But I remember the pancakes as a thing that happened at one point and then I wrote a commercial. Secret? Secret? That's why I was right after Drake's episode.
Drink the one about the treasure hunt. The treasure hunt. The secret. And so we put together that on the plot.
That was the ones we didn't have a script for. Yeah. No. Oh, we did not have a script for it.
It was all down. It was all down. It was all down. What secret could be?
We came up with a deodorant idea. And then Jeff Improv's an incredible definition of that commercial. No. And I thought that was written down.
No, that was actually out of my ass. I've been singing rainbows and kittens in Mothman all the way. Mothman. Hi.
Today, during this week, I realized that I do actually like wings more than I like the Beatles. But I don't know. We were just kind of like the last three. But I've been listening to a lot of Paul McCartney in this week and I'm like, yeah, that's the Beatle I love.
All right. Well, yeah, he can be the Beatle you love. He is. I like the Beatles.
As long as I like wings a lot too. I either, there are songs, there are wing songs that I love as much or maybe more than Beatles songs. My problem with last week wasn't that you love Paul McCartney as your favorite Beatles. Well, you should blame Jared because he started the law by all the way.
Yeah. You guys were saying that wings or Paul McCartney solo stuff was the best Beatles I've ever been with. It's not, it's solo stuff. And let's be real about this.
You are correct. I am so sorry. I'm going to be like me starting up a podcast with Jake and Emily. I love Jake and Emily and we could maybe do a fantastic podcast.
But they're not the Beatles. But it's not the wild card podcast. No, that's true. That's true.
There's no. I'd be so much friendly. You're a little bit less. It would be so nice.
It'd be probably be a pleasant podcast. I mean, people might enjoy it more. I probably would. It wouldn't be the wild card podcast.
It wouldn't have the edge. This podcast makes you bleed a little bit. Just enough. Because you bite it.
Because you bite it. Because you bite the edge. You bite the fuck out of that edge. That's right.
That's not enough to kill. Enough to get blood out of it. We name. We name.
We name a little. With our teeth. That's all good. It's fine.
We got an interesting group. We're celebrating. This is a celebration. We got this.
It's a arbitrary day. This is why we've got this 200 times now. We've gotten together. We've talked.
Yup. We've. Chomped. Mice.
We've done our awards. And a lot of work. If you've been paying attention decades. As we grew closer and closer and closer to this date, I kept warning you.
We were getting to the end of the favorite section. Right. Fair warning. It's been like two months.
Three months of the same. It's going to end. It's going to end. It's going to end.
Here we are. It just needs to both for the brevity of the podcast. Shortening things up a little bit. Tightening it up.
But also because, man, I'll be sitting there and I'll be sitting there and I'll be like, what? What? Right. Yeah.
How many favorites can you have after two? I'm sad to see it go though. I'm sad to see it. I'm sad to see it.
We won't ever have these discussions. People want to know this. Let's talk about this. We'll still have those discussions.
On the way out, I sent you guys a message with what the favorites question was going to be this week. And essentially what I'm scrolling back through it now. Did you know what the people wrote? Yeah.
Because I know exactly what people wrote. I know exactly what people wrote. I know exactly what people wrote. I thought of all the things we've talked about.
Today seems like the best time to talk about each other. We've talked about musicals. We've talked about movies a lot. We've talked about music a little bit.
We've talked about literature and all these kinds of things. But I think now is just a great time for us to talk about each other. So what I asked you was, what are your favorite aspects of the other two wild cards on and off the stage? Before you do that, what are you drinking over there?
This is a tropical smoothie. I just saw creamy white whitish banana looking colored thing. I'm not jealous. I was just so curious to the point that I couldn't continue doing what I was doing until I knew what I was doing.
You had to stop us right here to find out about this. Because we're about to get into a thing. And I'm like, I can't even fucking think. Because that's not what is normally sitting over there.
It's not a normal thing. It's not a water bottle. It's a water bottle. I'm drinking I see by the way, Ron, if you're worried about one of me.
I was not part of a bottle of Diet Coke and another part bottle of water. Yeah, that's normal though. That's kind of normal over there. I'm chopping ice.
That's normal. And then Jared has this smoothie in front of him. I'm like, the fuck is that? This doesn't happen.
Well, it's the 200th episode he's celebrating. It's a special day. It's why I have a gorgeous girlfriend who went and got me a lovely girlfriend. You have a lovely girlfriend.
A smoothie. Yep. So enjoy it before everything turns to shit, my friend. Favorite aspects of the other two wildcards on off.
So I figured we could do a rotation. We do a lot of stages on stage. So we'll start with Ron Blair. Then Jeff and I will praise Ron Blair on stage.
Oh, well, I can't think of an easier thing to do. I can't think of anything to do it about this man. I mean, Ron's only limitation on stage is his body type, which he's from having the everyman roles that you get. I would even jump in just from home to say the only limitation for Ron Blair.
The number of shows he's allowed to do. But I mean, I think you could do even more if you had more opportunities. I mean, yeah, I did pile it on there for several years. Because Ron is a fantastic actor who can take on any role and any accent and become that character.
And you will love and enjoy watching that guy, that character. Whether or not it's a musical or a comedy or a straight play, Ron is just he becomes the character. And even if it, I mean, you just go with him. You just enjoy, you just enjoy the character.
You don't think, oh, well, there's Ron doing such and such. You think, wow, that's a really interesting character. I really hate that character. Or wow, that character is really fun.
You're not thinking, oh, that's Ron taking off his hand and smoking a cigarette. Right. So I think he's versatile and he's just, he's just warred well. And for me, not having been around Ron as long as some people in this area have.
Yeah. I caught seeing you in Legally Blonde. Right. First time I saw it before I knew who you were.
Yeah. Because that was before we had hairspray together. And so since then, like you don't play quite as many villains. I had a whole scene.
I kind of terminated with that show that I missed almost all of. Yeah. So for me, honestly, some of my favorite roles for you have been kind of smaller roles. But if you look at when you played Brigham Young.
Yeah. When you look at Elephant Man, the kind of carne who took care of it. It's not the biggest roles, but the amount of menace that you brought. And I mean this in the most compliment.
Everyone knows you as a comedian. Comic actor who's timing is the best. Who knows exactly how far to push the line and not take one toe over it. Like you know where that cut off is for comedy.
Where it's not like, OK, OK. Right. Yeah. You know where that line is.
But then to see you go the opposite end of the line and be like, Brigham Young never was outright threatening. He never laid a hand on anyone. But you're like, this guy makes me uncomfortable. And you had one really one scene.
Yeah. And the amount of menace you brought in that one scene. The same thing with the Elephant Man. I loved the character of the Elephant because he had two scenes.
Yeah. One at the beginning where he was the king. Right. He ran the show.
Everyone listened to him. He had your attention the moment you were there. And then at the end of the show, you come back and he's a broken man. Yeah.
And you don't get to see the transformation. But just seeing you do that in an hour. I did marvel. Just like Jeff said, what you can bring the stage in terms of the toolkit is unparalleled.
Thank you. And here's another thing I just want to add. Even though this isn't on the stage, it is in the wild card podcast and it is in the movies and stuff that you do. I didn't realize until, because I hadn't seen your movies and stuff.
I hadn't realized how adept you are at writing skits and movies and bits and longer things until you started doing all this writing for the wild card podcast. Because I am amazed week in, week out that you always write something. And it's always interesting and it's always good. And you always know where you're going.
I mean, as anyone, sometimes you have to find your way there. Fight your way there. But I'm always amazed at the way you're able to find the character that you're going for. And you know what joke you're going for.
And you're able to get to that joke. And I don't think you get enough credit for your writing skills. I think everyone can see your acting skills because it's plain to see when you're on stage. I don't think people realize what a really, really, really good writer you are.
Well, I appreciate that. There was a time where I wanted to be a writer more than an actor. That's what I wanted to do is write and tell a story. So I appreciate that very much.
Wait till you see the Halloween show. Then the whole world will know. How good a writer is. A writer is.
That's actually a very good writer. Let's go to Jeff now. Yeah. Me.
Jeff, I, you know, from young Frankenstein from Peter and the Starcatcher. And even when I was watching a certain video, we're going to release today. One of the things that impresses me most is how sweet you are. Yeah.
You like it just there's such a glee in your performance, such a youthful energy. And it is just a joy to watch you perform. And I remember I saw you in some music because I was with you and Wizard of Oz. That really wasn't until Starcatcher.
When I really got to see you have that. And you kind of jumped in in that role too. And I'm like, oh, okay, Jeff's. Oh, that was a highlight of the show.
Oh my gosh. Like you just think the surprise you bring to the stage and the energy. And the enthusiasm, I would say jubilence. Yeah.
It is just like there were moments in Young Frankets and we'd be in the rehearsal process. And I would be watching you. I was in a scene supposed to be doing something and I would just be watching because you're that captivating. Wow.
Yeah. Yeah, I agree. Well, I mean, Young Frankenstein and Peter and the Starcatcher were two roles that I really loved. I actually had a lot to do on stage.
And Wizard of Oz, I was just part of the course doing various things. Some of you got to do quite a bit more. Well, sound of music, I moved a lot of flats. But there's more than that.
There's more than that because you were the front. Yeah, I stood out when you came out. So you came out. You came out.
Physicality to that role. As in the cool thing about that character is he doesn't get a ton to do. Yeah, right. But he makes one of the strongest choices in the entire show.
Yeah. The character, not necessarily the actual character. And so because he comes out and he's helping the Von Traps and then all of a sudden, he turns on a dime. He's so likable.
And then when he shows up with the swastika arm video. Oh. Oh. Oh.
But again, not everyone can bring that to one character. Yeah. And Jeff did. Yeah.
Yeah. I'll say this about Franz. I remember when I when he did the school show for Franz and I came out and I did my first line or whatever it was. The kids were they loved it and they were wrapped and then they were disappointed the next time I saw him.
I saw him because I didn't have any lines. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. So it's totally true. What strikes me has always stricken me since 1984. Not not the year of the show that we did.
I have to clarify is Jeff's work ethic. Absolutely. Which is ridiculous. It's fucking stupid because I wouldn't put that much work and it's like Jeff works as as-off.
Yeah. And he's also, I've talked to a lot of actors who have this list of things they won't do. And Jeff doesn't have that list outside of like full front lunatic. But I don't know.
I never had to ask you. It's probably not going to happen. Probably. If anybody's showing their ass, it's me.
All right. Of course. That's what's going to happen. Sure.
You don't wear that as well. I will. And I will. I have.
I will. I got no problem with it. But you keep an open mind no matter what you're told to do, like whatever direction you're given. And then you do it without question.
And I love that. That's beautiful. Specifically in 1984 where you're supposed to sing in a woman as a- You start singing as a fella. Yeah.
And then you're told to sing it as a woman would. Yeah. And then I scoff at you and you commit to it. And it's that commitment that I think in conjunction with what Jared was saying that makes you so magnetic to watch on stage.
There's a commitment to each character that again, like you were saying with me, it's not I'm watching Jeff and having a good time. I'm in wrapped in your character. There's also a generosity you bring on stage. Oh.
And I mean that in a- You are captivating the audience. You will have that magnetic pull. Young Frankenstein. You're there.
Yeah. And literally, audience is rooting for you. This character who doesn't speak English. Yeah.
Because they can't get behind the text. It's all about the physicality, the emotion you're bringing through, the emotes you get in your face and they're completely behind you. But again, you're always sharing that with people on the stage too. It's like when you and we're working together.
It wasn't a I'm going to want to be what I'm going to want to be with you. It's a work together. We're going to work together and we're going to blow them up. Yeah.
Thank you. That makes me feel good when people do that. If that gets a girl saying, hey, it's a two-inch episode, we get to celebrate each other. Yeah, we get to do this.
Well, that makes it Jared's turn. It is Jared's turn. Well, Jared, the first show I was in with you was in Wizard of Oz. I didn't get to know you.
I got to polish your little metal in one scene. That's part of the show. And then I started seeing you in various stuff around. I saw you had a couple of shows at ACP.
I saw you do more shows at the pack. We knew each other, but I don't really think I got to know you until you started doing this podcast. I don't think we were. We knew each other.
I knew Ron Moore. We knew each other, but we weren't close. I can say this from all the times I've seen you. I from the moment, from the first time I saw you on stage and I was saying, who the hell is this guy?
I was impressed with your talent. I didn't know where you came from or who you were. I was awfully jealous. It says a lot that every time there are major roles in any show that you audition for, you almost always get cast.
We've talked about your everyman, body type and character. But that wouldn't be enough for you to get these roles. It's that you're so frickin' good. I mean, you take out a role and you're believable.
Yeah, you play the goofy guy and you don't get to play the villain. But my god, when we were doing heroicists and John Finnegan wasn't able to do the show when we moved it to the state theater, the first person I thought it was, well, then we called Jared. Maybe Jared can do it. I hope Jared can do it.
You are on the top of the list of being able to call when HCP needed someone to come in for their Shakespeare in the park. You were called. You are the guy that everybody knows that they can call in a pinch and you can do the job and they don't have to worry about it. You are just a solid working actor and I believe, and I believe it's about wrong too, that if the two of you were in Chicago or New York, you'd be working and able to make a living on stage.
I think your day job is a job you love, but your passion is theater and your talent is in the theater. And I'm glad you're here sharing your talent with people. But if you ever wanted to go someplace else, I think you have the ability to make it through all those other people audition for the same roles and get back. Well, thank you.
You are the only person who's cast me as a villain anywhere around here. You actually did let me play a villain on stage. I keep wanting to. It has not come up.
I keep wanting to because I like the thought of you playing a villain. One of the best things I love about Jared, I've worked with Jared on stage when I have you, Jeff. Oh yeah. Because you've said many times acting is not the thing that you got into all this for.
Right. Like music was you thought. I like acting. I mean, yeah.
Yeah. And so the reason I quantify that is because Jared and I have been on stage many, many, many times together and many shows. And one of the things I don't know if this will make sense to anybody who is not an actor, but Jared's level of consistency when you're on stage with him is insane. It's this reliability that is easy to underestimate or not even see.
But when you're working with Jared, that reliability and the consistency. And not only that, but that builds this trust that makes Jared this ideal scene partner because you know, no matter what your preparedness level is, he's going to be there. He's going to be present. And he's got it.
And he's going to match you in talent, in charm. And whatever you're bringing to that, he challenges you to bring that same level, which only escalates until it becomes like a perfect scene. Yeah. And Jared's always taking a head too.
Oh, everybody else is like that's not just that. He's not waiting for his law. The cue for him to say is like he knows everybody else is lying in the scene. Right.
So he knows that someone's lost their way. Yeah. People talk about trust every once in a while, but it's the biggest motivator to a scene becoming successful is that level of trust. And with Jared, there's never a doubt that you can trust this performer on stage and that he's going to match you.
I want to make you look. He's generous as well. You and I have 39 steps and all the scenes we had together. It was magic.
But you played a thousand different characters and I was just the one guy that like, I mean, I can name five or six scenes. And we got to do this and we got to do this and we just got to have that much fun on stage. And you're also the only who's ever broken me on stage too. Well, I do that.
I do that to a lot of folks. I like fucking with people. God help you. If I'm facing away from the audience in a scene and you're in the scene with me and you have to face the audience.
Because I will fuck with you real hard. Real, real hard. If I think you can take it. If you're an actor that I feel can take it, I'm not going to pick on some kid and try to make him break.
Except I did that with Dakota Jones once. It never worked and I was always like, ah damn it. Well, then then he was stronger than you. He was much stronger because he has a line in our snake and all the ways that went.
Look at that Puss. I think I've told this story and in the dressing room before the show I would go, look at that pussy, look at that pussy, look at that pussy, look at that pussy. And I said, you're going to do it. My God, you're going to do it.
And I guess I was on stage so much before he had to get back on stage that he had time to filter it out of his brain. Because I'm in the show for like an hour and a half before he has to get back on stage. So I didn't get to get to poison his mind a little bit more before. But God help you if you're on stage with me and I have an opportunity to make you break.
Because I will fucking go for it. I'm ruthless and merciless that way. Thank you gentlemen very much transition now to off the stage. Yeah.
Been talking about Ron. Great. Ron. Rising list.
I think people may not realize. I think that's true. And again, this is the word I've used before but I want to use it for you off the stage and that's the word generosity. A few years ago from my birthday, Eloria was putting a book together.
Yeah. And both of you were asked by Eloria to write something for me. I still have that book. It's literally my bedside table.
Wow. And both of you wrote incredibly kind things there. And the way Ron did it was so clever. Because if you read it and you don't know Ron, you're like, I see insulting you.
I see insulting you. But no, you absolutely were not. You are kind and there is a there's a gentleness inside of you. I think people may not realize is there and a love for those around you.
Yeah. And a desire for them to be successful and for them to reach their potential. I've seen that you like taking people under your wing and like wanting to like push them, seeing things inside them that maybe they don't see inside themselves. There wouldn't be a podcast if that wasn't true.
Because that was what you wanted. You're like, Jared, you love podcasts? I mean, you could just do one. And then we just did one.
And then we just did one. And then how about your mind? Yeah. Because we were emailing back and forth and you just were like, we can just start a podcast.
Yeah. I mean, I guess that's technically how they start. You just start one. But I wouldn't have.
Well, I absolutely would not have done a podcast. When Jeff was talking about my writing skills, the lesson that I want to give to the kids, and it's hand in hand with what you're saying, is that if you want to do something, then sometimes you just you have to do it. You just start doing it. And so if there's what seems like an unattainable idea, like, let's start a podcast.
It's not unattainable. Yeah. You find the steps to do it. And then you go, yeah, we can do this shit.
Well, and you're so good at surrounding yourself with people. Like, again, see, again, see, you and I talk about the podcast and we're like, OK, we knew podcast and you're like, no, we need Jeff. Yeah. We need Jeff.
Yeah. That's exactly what he said. We need Jeff. And you see that in people.
You see that in like, like, someone like Jake right now where you work with him. Right. The people use this, like, assistant directors to give them that foundation. Like, you, again, you genuinely care about people in a way they may not see.
Because there is absolutely an abrasive side of you. Oh, I know. It's there. It's there.
I've seen it. But I think people may see that and not realize that underneath it is such a caring, gentle soul. And just a person that I'm so proud of called a friend and just spend every weekend with. Well, that's lovely.
Feels good. I'll say that the abrasive part of you is there because you care so much. I agree with that, too. Absolutely.
Because as Jared was saying, I mean, on the surface, I could see people who don't know you think, wow, that guy's a fucking asshole. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And what does I tell the truth?
Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, but the thing is, what they don't see is how much you, as Jared was saying, you care about people, I mean, you're always, you bring Emily and Jake on your bletercations. You're always looking at people and thinking of people and helping people.
And people don't realize that because it's not something that you go around advertising. Well, that's ferris-yism. Yeah. And so you're an honest person who actually cares a lot about so many things.
And, you know, which is one of the reasons why I enjoy your company so much because, you know, yeah, you're funny to talk to a, you're funny in person sometimes. Sometimes you're not. Depends on the mood. Depends on the mood.
You're a human being. Because you're a human being. Yeah. And I like that human being a lot.
I don't think you. And, you know, it's, you know, even if we didn't work together, I would want to hang out with you just because I really, really enjoy your company and your friendship and all of the things you do and all the things you know and all the discussions that we have. And these in name conversations that we have. It's fun.
Yeah. You're fun. You're a fun guy. You're fun to hang out with.
I can't top what Jared said because I agree with everything that Jared said. And so. I want to throw one more thing in. And I have given you this exact component of the podcast before.
Yeah. But I'm going to continue shouting this one. And it's that Ron will be the butt of the joke. Yeah.