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The Wild Cards Direct to You

from The Wild Card Podcast · host Ron Blair, Jeff Curtis, and Jared Eaton

Welcome to The Wild Card Podcast!  This is episode 84 of our attempt at this whole podcasting thing!! Today's episode features: Jared Eaton giving the most enthusiastic victory speech of all time, Jeff Curtis saying "papasan chair" an incredible number of times, and Ron Blair still willing to do anything for $5! Throughout the episode, you'll hear the three of us discussing such varied topics as: The way this podcast is about sorting through the chaos of your life to find Truth (our version of the truth which you should unquestioningly accept...), our favorite pieces of furniture, Ron taking his punishment like a man, a white chili recipe from one of the oft-murdered Deckheads, Drake Gillaspie, and occasionally we part from our tangents to discuss some of the greatest directors of all time!  This week, Ron leads us through the filmographies of a number of the most legendary directors in cinema history. Join us on this journey to wherever and we're sure that you'll produce a smile as you listen to our Lights, Camera, Podcast!Please like/subscribe/review and leave comments below! Let us know your thoughts on any and all of the directors we discussed, which directors we neglected to mention, your favorite furniture pieces, and if you are interested in being an official Deckhead! P.S. “A good director makes a playground and allows you to play."~Martin LandauP.P.S. Bite the Edge!

Welcome to The Wild Card Podcast! This is episode 84 of our attempt at this whole podcasting thing!! Today's episode features: Jared Eaton giving the most enthusiastic victory speech of all time, Jeff Curtis saying "papasan chair" an incredible number of times, and Ron Blair still willing to do anything for $5! Throughout the episode, you'll hear the three of us discussing such varied topics as: The way this podcast is about sorting through the chaos of your life to find Truth (our vers...

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This week's episode of the Long Card podcast is brought to you by Victory. Victory. His outstanding face to face against a moderately worthy opponent on a topic in which he knows far far more than I do, I'm sure. And yet, despite my own horrifying incompetence, I stand before you.

Victorious. And honestly, I still can't tell you the difference between the River of Dreams, Hen the Hudson River. It's true, I'm no piano man. I'm not a big shot.

I'm no big man on Mulberry Street. I'm a stranger in a glass house. Very handsome, stranger in the house. Even with all this, I was forced to… um, Jared?

I have the honor to stand up here to give this victory speech on this cheap, milk crate in front of this stupid fake microphone looking at your dumb, empty faces and wondering if there's anything inside of your enormous, empty heads. Okay? So, yes. The Long Cards bring you victory this week.

For what it's worth, I appreciate your support. And I'm so, so, so honored to be your ultimate champion. Last day, honored. I'm at Horrified.

I'm Epping Horrified. Thank you. I was tense. I was nervous.

I guess it. Just wasn't my night. Art Fleming gave the answers. Oh, but I couldn't get the questions right.

I… I… Did I tell you to stop? I lost on Jeopardy! Welcome to the Wild Card Podcast. I'm your host, Jared Eaton.

And my co-pilots on this journey to wherever. Are my good friends, Jeff Curtis? Hello! And it's 9 o'clock on a Tuesday.

And the regular crown shuffles in. There's an old man sitting next to me, willing to do anything from five bucks. Hey, everybody. It is me.

That's great. I'm not going to tell you what the name of that song is. I don't know what it is. I've never heard that song before.

Jared, why don't you tell us what this week's podcast is all about? I know it's a crazy switch. Well, you know what? I just so happen to be prepared to tell everyone what this podcast is all about.

Outstanding. This podcast is about sorting through the chaos of your life to find truth. Our version of the truth that you should unquestioningly accept. Outstanding.

That pretty much wraps it up. No, that's good stuff. That's what this podcast is about. That's what we are not.

It's about our opinions and our opinions are the truth. Absolutely. We have said many times what we say is the definitive. I mean, it's the last word on it.

It has to be correct. Yeah. If we don't use that, it is true. Well, I mean, you know, it's a...

When we have a tea, three diverse people with varying levels of beard, with varying levels of beard, making that decision. And how can you argue that? Reasonably, you can't do it. Ron, as the decades know, because they listen every single week, they know we always have a favorite question.

And they know that I, without fail, always ask the favorite question. Absolutely. So let me ask you guys this. Have you ever, throughout your life, had a favorite piece of furniture, a piece of furniture that you always gravitated towards, even a favorite seat?

Yeah. But I was thinking specifically of a piece of furniture. Like, for example, I had a video game chair. At one point, it was closer to the ground.

It was arched to the back. There were no arms. So you could kind of sit almost in a squatting position, except you had support, back support, and butt support, and lean back. And that was probably my favorite thing to sit in.

And eventually it was old and fell apart. But I missed that chair. I missed that piece of furniture. When I was young, I remember my parents were forced to my dad.

One piece of furniture, he's playing over the left. My dad had a recliner that massaged. Oh, man, I love those. I never experienced that before.

And so it felt so, it felt so, it felt for a moment, like we weren't like middle class, like low middle class. Like, oh my gosh, this is what well people are like. This is the luxury. You had these sort of luxuries in your home.

That was pretty cool. Did it have a warmer width? Oh, God, those are great. And my mom, like I had a couch that had the reclining sections on each end left and right in each other.

And there was a middle section where someone else could sit. The middle section also had the fold down back with a couple of years. So like, I'd be gaming, reclining with a drink in the couple or next to me on the right hand. Yeah, perfectly convenient.

Oh, that's lovely. That was when I was younger. I would say now, when I started teaching, yeah, my first paycheck from teaching, so this would have been like fall 2013, 2012, I was teaching me cutting high school and I bought myself my first adult congratulations. You don't have a job, you have a career gift.

And I bought myself a recliner and a recliner stole my home seven years ago. So it's been through some things, but that recliner still, one of the only recliners I've ever been taken nap in. Yeah, recliners are. I often take a pillow and put it in a small of my back for a little more back support.

Because this chair will take you back. It reclines dangerously. If you are not prepared for you, I've ended up on my back. I literally, literally kind of flip over because of how much it will let you recline.

Yeah, I almost fell asleep in a recliner. I had not sat in it. Caleb usually sits in the recliner, but he wasn't there last night. So I was watching TV in this recliner and I was watching his girl Friday with Mackenzie.

I think that's Howard Hawks. No, yes, it's Howard Hawks. And because I started watching some like it, my Billy Wather. And then I went, this is fun, but it's not what I'm in the mood for.

I was in the mood for the overlapping dialogue with Howard Hawks brings you. So I sat there and it was probably 12, 30, one o'clock in the morning and I just sort of sunk into the chair a little bit and decided I wasn't going to finish. The chair raffet arms around here. It held me and I went, no, I got to go to bed now.

This is too much. What about you, Jeff? When I was growing up, you know, when we lived in Creed, we would go to Denver two or three times a year and we'd always go to them all. And I'd always talk my parents into going by the, here what imports because of the pop is on chair and I always wanted to sit in the pop is on chair and and I always wanted a pop is on chair.

We never bought a pop is on chair. So then I went to college in Boston after I finally, um, when after I graduated and I was working, I was working at the parking garage at, um, no, was it? Anyway, I finally was able to buy myself my own pop is on chair and I sat in that chair for years. And at one point when I was living in New York City, a friend of mine had to get rid of her pop is on chair because she didn't have room for it.

So I took her pop is on chair and then I spent the next several years sitting on two pop is on chairs sitting on sat on top of each other because my apartment wasn't big enough for two pop is on chairs. But I wasn't going to let one be thrown away. No, no, no, no. I knew someday I would live in some place big enough to have two pop is on chair.

Yeah, and not when you'd always wanted one, you're not going to. Exactly. So then we, um, after I got married and we moved to Pennsylvania, we had two pop is on chairs in our, we bought a house there and we had both pop is on chairs in the basement and my, and Joe, she at one point found a double pop is on chair on the street that someone had thrown out. And so we took that home.

You know what, I want to go throw out. Well, eventually we had Madeleine and we had to make room for children's office. And so we had to get so we sold all of our pop is on chairs. We sold in a, you know, in a garage sale.

Yeah. And then Madeleine as she's grown up, she fell in love with pop is on chairs. So she wanted pop is on chairs and a couple of, I think it's last year, maybe two years ago, but I think it's last year, Emily and Jacob, you get rid of their pop is on. So we, we purchased those for Madeleine for her birthday.

And so now we have two pop is on chairs again that I almost never sit in. Yeah, right. But I still love pop is on chairs. I have almost napped in one of them.

I have a small room. Very close. I never had those types of furniture, but you guys know what mushroom chair is. It's like a smaller version.

Oh, okay. I have one of these I've had since I was junior high, maybe it's pretty nice. It's got good back support. It's so comfortable.

My cats like to sleep in it too. Yeah. Also one more piece of intro I mentioned in my library, I have a three bedroom place I don't want to go to the library. I have a rocking chair, a small rocking chair.

Yeah, that is over 115 years old. Oh, yeah. Pass to me before she passed away. So that's a little bit of a little small and I want to damage it.

Do you guys remember at the Plum Alley Theater, the blue chair that used to be in the dressing room? No, I think I'm not want to see it. It was just an arm chair. Oh, okay.

It had been moved out possibly before you started doing shows with this, but it was a it's a blue chair that I always sat in this before the shows. And then one night it was for a production of Rocky Horror, either Rocky Horror or Arsenic and Olives. I think it was Arsenic and Olives, but Jeremiah was in the seat and I was like, hey, you're my seat and Jay Hemphill said, well, I don't see your name on it. He was joking.

He said, I don't see your name on it. So I went out and got a Sharpie and I tipped it over after Jeremiah and opened up and I wrote my name on the bottom of the chair. Excellent. Well, during the HCP yard sale, I went ahead and bought that chair and took it home.

So now it's in my living room. It's one of the second favorite piece of furniture I've ever owned. Yeah. It's a great chair.

And yeah, that's it for chairs. Okay. That's it for furniture. Oh, I know I've mentioned this before, but I have one more other piece of furniture.

It's a toilet. Oh, yeah. I think I'm at no. No, no, no.

No, no. This was early high school. I think it was after junior high. Maybe at the end of junior high.

My father moved to Clark's only, I was just in the next county over and all of a sudden remarried to step sisters and we went to this house. I know I mentioned this house before. It's pretty big house for when we had it was initially built and constructed at a basement and then the previous owners arranged the basement for their handicapped parents, whoever's parents. So there was two bedrooms, the basement, a bar in the basement, living in the basement, a little tiny kitchen counter in the basement.

And so when we get to this house, the steps just had to have it have it always like claiming where they wanted. So we started upstairs in the main entrance and one of the girls claimed a room pretty fast and I was like, I guess whatever. I don't care. I don't care.

What if he doesn't want to be told find a place? As long as I'm away from you, you don't have anything. And then they go to the basement and the other girl claims the other girl, and now they're pretty quick. I'm like, I'll take the one's left.

Well, what they didn't know was the master bedroom down there. So I'm like, yeah, I'll take this one. And the bathroom was for the elderly, mildly disabled parents of the other. And so the bathroom, the toilet was on a pedestal.

I stepped up to it to easily get off. And so when I sat at my legs and touched the floor, I had a dangle and I could kick and I had a shower in there. I was like, I can't in my legs could kick. I'm sorry.

I can't. I'm like, I can't. I can kick back. It was the most comfortable dump one to ten.

That is love. And the moral of the story is look at the whole house before claiming a bed. No way you're getting into it. Absolutely.

Yeah. It's a Ronis out today. It is a Ronis out. So we have no idea what we're getting into.

I have no idea what we're getting into. I have a pretty good someone. However, before I begin, let me share with you guys a recipe that our dear friend, Drake Gillespie, off murdered, member of the podcast, Drake Gillespie sent me last night. We really missed Drake since, since Sherlock ended, he had home to Mount Sterling and I guess he got tired of dying.

Most likely. Yeah. But we miss him. He's he's a little cherub.

He's our Christmas miracle. So I'm just picturing Drake as our chair of dressed as a cherub. And I picture that all the time. He said we have a recipe last night for white chili.

It's much more healthy, healthier, much more. Not a tomato based sauce? No, no, not at all. The base of it is three 15 ounce cans of great Northern beans, rinsed and drained.

I love great one of the beans. I love them. And mind you, this is a slow cooker recipe. If I court slow cooker, you cook this for 10, 40 to 10 hours.

But you put the beans, eight ounces of cooked and shredded chicken breast, one cup chopped onions, which we don't use because I'll vomit one and a half cups of chopped yellow red or green bell peppers, which I would like to use. But but I'm the only one in the family. Me and Taylor are the only ones who will eat so far to the main ingredients you're not putting in there. They didn't even they would like to have chili.

I thought it'd be no. Okay. No, it's insane. I know.

I like beans. I don't like chili. But I just I so the three first ingredients we're not putting in the chili. Well, the chopped onions and the and the green and the peppers, I would like bell peppers in it.

And then two garlic cloves, minced, two teaspoons of ground cumin, a cup of tea, a teaspoon of salt, half a teaspoon of dried oregano, three and a half cups of chicken broth. You combine that together. And then you cook it eight to 10 hours on slow or on high four to five hours. And I recommend eight to 10 hours, you know, much more tender chunks of chicken that way.

It's a good chicken. Well, it's a it says eight ounce cooked and shredded chicken breast. Yeah, you weren't panning. You went to sleep for minutes.

Okay. I think the human the human really sells the recipe to that's a nice kick. Because I'm not a big fan of peppers either. I think it's chilly when you quite as maybe stood a bit.

But like I would add more like pepper seasonings. Yeah, I probably have a little more seasoning. Some liquid smoke or something. Paprika.

I would use paprika because I do that and everything. Smoke paprika is fantastic. All right. Thank you, Drake.

For the first ever podcast recipe. Is this our first recipe? We've ever given long cuts? Well, you're welcome, folks.

We should do that more often. So yeah, yeah. What's that? Yeah, yeah.

What? Everybody. So Ron, this is your episode. And you guys are qualified.

Let's have another ultimate challenge. I would know to look at it. Yeah. Now let me tell you, there was an ultimate challenge coming.

Yeah. But Jeff beat me to it. And then I went, okay. Well, all right.

Well, wait a while. No big deal. I hadn't done any work on it. See to sneak it back up on us.

Exactly. But since Sherlock has ended, and we're about to we're in pre production, good people films for a short film. So I'm pretty loungy. I'm pretty loungy lately, which doesn't happen often.

It's a wonderful, wonderful feeling. And so starting last Friday, a week from a week before this most recent Friday, I decided to do a freaky Friday. No, it was really standard. Was it your girl Friday?

No, I wish. I wish it had been the Rosalind Russell. No, not gypsy Rosalind Russell, which she didn't sing her parts. And yet they still had this raspy voice sort of thing.

It was wonderful. No, I want a Friday night's fight. Yes. Was it Friday the 13th?

Yes, it was. So I watched Ant-Man of the Wasp, which is great. It's a fun movie. It's a fun movie.

A lot of fun. I finished it and I'm like, oh, that's so much fun. Although the post credit sequence, you go, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, what's happening here? No.

So you've seen the Avengers, Tindy-Wars? Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

And there's really no spoiler because I think everybody knows. My daughter has never seen it, and yet she knows. Yeah. There they go.

Between that and all the ashy memes that are on, you know, on Facebook. Yeah. It's a different. So I think about it.

You care about dies. I think you're right. I finished that one and I go, oh, man, I got to watch something else. It's like 10 o'clock.

I can still be up. I can put in another movie. And there had been one that I had been waiting to watch. Worsen Wells's last film, The Other Side of the Wind.

I may have mentioned that one last week. I don't remember whether it was on one side of the chair, but he runs on the other. Yeah. That's exactly what it is.

No, he wasn't running anywhere. He was in his 50s at this point. But I think it was a bad joke. But by the time I finished, by the time I finished the movie, it's a perfect book end with Citizen Kane.

Okay. Beginning of his film career and the end of his film career, it's an extraordinary film, outstanding. And it took 40 years for this to come out. But we're not talking about other side of the wind.

That's a whole episode. I know it's self that story. But I followed that off later on that weekend by watching Nickelodeon, by Peter Bogdanovitch, which is a great movie. I love Bogdanovitch.

Over this weekend, I watched The Stranger by Worsen Wells. So is your report just to list of all the movies you've watched? Yes, you're gonna like it. And then I watched The Graduate yesterday with Mike Nichols bringing up Baby by Howard Hawks, which is an extraordinary film.

I've seen a single movie. These are classics. These are old movies, and everybody goes, I'm not watching that. I did watch After Hours by Martin Sourssecy, which was 1980s, a little more reason.

That's the most recent film. And then as I said, I started watching Some Like It Hot by Billy Wilder last night, and then I ended up with His Girl Friday by Howard Hawks and couldn't do these ones. The point is, every film that I watched is by a director that has been revered in Hollywood in some way or another. What I would like to do today is just have a general conversation with a little bit of structure here regarding these directors that I will mention.

I've reached out to the director that there was a f**k in it. No, no, I haven't seen the thing is, I can't talk about Hawks or Billy Wilder or all these guys, because it would be me talking by myself while you guys struggle to make funny comments for that. I know how I can interrupt everything you say in comments. No doubt, no doubt.

But I contribute meaningfully to the conversation. I had to keep it more current with more current directors. There are some titles here that are and some directors that are not white as current. I did have Clint Eastwood on there because I was like, well, we'll have to talk about Clint Eastwood.

And then I took him off because I cannot talk about Clint Eastwood. I've only seen Unforgiven. Wow. And I didn't get it.

And I saw Perfect World. That was pretty good. You didn't sneak on Baby Gone? No.

No, maybe I didn't see. I didn't see. I didn't see it. I liked it.

I heard that was good. No. No, I went through the curve. No.

I've never seen a single one. I've seen the third Dirty Here movie. I think it's all that one. Oh, Mr.

Crickburn. Dirty is Terry. Dirty is Terry. Thee Dirty is Terry.

So let's talk about some that we can all agree that we've pretty much heard of and thrown opinion on. But what I did is I took five of them. Jared knows all these. I guess it's because he's been directing in my lifetime.

That's it. When I was growing up, I would read Entertainment Weekly having no intention to watch some of the movies that were mentioned. But you end up picking up the names. And so you know that these people did such and such a fall.

I've seen most of these. And I figured you had with Clint Eastwood and I was like, shit, that's the one I'm that Jeff would know so much about. But I cannot facilitate a conversation on in any way. I did almost watch Fistful of Dollars last night.

Oh, because I'd like to turn myself on to what he didn't direct that one. He was in it. Yeah, that was certainly the only one. Yeah, that was the spaghetti western thing for this career.

Yeah, I had thought about watching that. They had a few dollars more. I think the first one he directed was playing Miss Tony. That was correct.

And that always looked like a really nice thriller. It's a good 70s setter. Yeah. Yeah, I like the 70s aesthetic.

Speaking of the 70s aesthetic, I want to start with the first director who did started doing his film work in the late 60s. Okay. Became enormous in the 70s. Floundered a little bit in the 80s.

Had a resurgence on Broadway later on. I want to talk about Mel Brooks. Not his life because that is a whole two or three part episode in and of itself. But I want to throw out some movies.

Let's talk about some of Mel Brooks's films starting with my favorite Young Frankenstein. Really? That's your favorite Mel Brooks? I think that's my favorite.

My favorite. And then it's followed with Blazing Saddles. It would be my second history of the world would be my third. High Anxiety would be my fourth and then the producers.

Really? Because after Young Frankenstein, Blazing Saddles is for the world of high anxiety, you've got space balls and that's when he was kind of starting to. You left out Dracula dead loving it. No?

No, you forgot to mention that. You forgot to mention that. You've got Silent Movie. I often, yeah, I thought about mentioning that but I figured that's the five that most people have heard.

Probably have been in tights. People have heard of that. You've seen it? High Anxiety.

No, I only had a list for five. I only have room for five so I wanted to do the one that I either don't hate. He's only got 11 people who've heard of him. Yeah, his body has worked as small compared to the span that he's been working.

He spent so much time on Broadway and then he's... Mid-70s is really his time. That was his big thing. I think both the Young Frankenstein and Blazing Saddles came out in the morning.

And you've never seen anybody push the envelope. Like by the time I was watching Mel Brooks, it didn't seem as shit taboo. The things he was bringing up that he brought up some crazy things in his films. Well, for some it's about Blazing Saddles.

I didn't get the ending where it starts breaking all these walls. Suddenly they were running through Hollywood and it's like, what the fuck is this? I thought that was fantastic. What a great one.

At the time it was like, what? Yeah, that's insanity. The first time I'm on the Python in the search for the Holy Grail, it was annoying every time they broke away to the current times and then whatever I've arrested. And now I understand the humor and it's funny.

But as a kid, it's like, what? There are some things that we have to learn along the way. I think, like I had mentioned, I saw the graduate yesterday and I hadn't seen it since the mid-90s. I was like 19 or 20.

I couldn't understand fuck all about the graduate at 19 or 20. And then when I watched it yesterday, I understood the brilliance of it. The filmmaking techniques that Mike Nichols employed in that film. And then the storytelling device, the graduate is a torturous film to sit through because of the situation that these characters have put themselves in.

It's time to sit each other. Are you trying to sit each other? I love that. It is so good with her leg being Ben and speaking of Mel Brooks.

And Ben Proft is Mel Brooks's wife who played Mrs. Robinson in that. And it's very funny in that cringe-worthy way where you go fuck, this is the most horrifying situation. So watch it dust and often be uncomfortable.

But also watching him grow in confidence and become a man through his relationship with Mrs. Robinson and then fall in love with the daughter, which is how, what a crazy web that they've wove in there. And so I didn't understand why that was funny when I was a kid. History of the world, I didn't understand why that was funny because that's Mel Brooks being really in your face with a comedy.

And I think starting with high anxiety, I believe he started working with the writer Rudy DeLuca. And History of the World in High Anxiety is very, it breaks away from the flavor of Young Frankenstein and Blazing Saddles a little bit. But I think that's Rudy DeLuca's influence on it. There's still really funny, really funny films.

And then the producers, which is nothing like what Mel Brooks ended up doing later on. Well, I think the producers are actually my favorite Mel Brooks movie. It's brilliant because, well, just like the Broadway show, it's like you're not expecting this whole Hitler and Germany musical thing that's just so terrible and so stupid that it's brilliant. Yeah, that's another thing.

I was watching documentaries. I watched the Norse vels, one on Peterbug Donovitch, and I watched one called The Last Laugh, which talked about comedians going to taboo subjects. Mostly the Holocaust is what they dealt with. If you're going to make fun of the Holocaust or not make fun of the Holocaust, but the people who perpetrated the Holocaust, it's okay to make fun of Nazis.

It's not okay to make fun of the Holocaust. As the things that The Last Laugh explores, we're to draw the line. And the consensus was the higher the risk in the joke, the better the joke has to be for you to be able to get away with it. Oh, yeah, I would think so.

And that was the thing. And there were people that had gone further than Mel Brooks. Mel Brooks said it's funny, but I wouldn't go that far. That was mostly Joan Collins, the kind of, not Joan Collins.

Joan Rivers. Joan Collins made jokes. She just wore diamonds and smelled nice, from what I understand. You know, she's lovely.

She's smelled like white diamonds. Who's smell like white diamonds? I don't know. Joan Collins?

That's the world of the street. So yeah, Mel Brooks, what are your guys' favorite Mel Brooks movies? What are your thoughts on Brooks? I've only seen two of them.

Are you shitting me? Yes. Well, currently shitting. I've seen them frame us all the way through.

I've seen space balls all the way through. Oh, Jared. I like space balls when I was a kid. It's funny what I knew until I watched him frame us on about a year ago.

That's what I'd say space balls is the last really palatable Mel Brooks film. See, I know what we really love Minnetites. It's kind of funny. I mean, it's very funny.

Yeah, I've seen the remake of the producers. I've not seen the original producers. So I'm not counting it. Dracula, dead and loving it, was like being hit in the face with a tire iron.

It was bad. And you just expected, I don't know. I don't know. It was such a horrible film.

And with Leslie Nielsen in it, you would think of Steven Weber. I don't know. That's maybe not maybe my expectations were. You can have a we've all seen movies with great cast.

Yeah. Made by people. We respect that. And the movie itself is awful.

Glass. That is my most beautiful piece. Everyone loved it. It was so bad.

I'm excited to do a Mel Brooks show. We also make a chance to do a Frank's Mel Brooks musical. So Mel Brooks, wonderful director. Let's talk about the Go on Brothers.

Totally different stuff. I would say something. Mel Brooks completely. And for as much as I love Mel Brooks, there's almost simplicity to the way he films things that is in direct contrast to the Coen brothers who use very complex shots.

Very, in a lot of their films, especially O' Brother We're Outta Hell's Retax. You guys should talk about that film. Because Ron, no Ron, you're not talking about it because I don't care for the movie at all. I loved it.

I loved O' Brother We're Out. It didn't make the list here actually. I saw it once and that was more than enough. I talked before about how it's the one I think of one of those who's serving things as a musical.

I agree with that. I dig the folksy gospel music. I hate the movie. I don't force go hate the movie, but I really don't.

I love it because I remember watching like ninth grade while reading about the Odyssey. And this tale of mythology with the humor I enjoyed and the characters I wanted to play. Like it's just I like all the three main characters, John Getland's funny in it. I love the music.

Sandreks, I hear it. Sandreks is fantastic. It's funny you mentioned Forest Gumpf though. I have Roberts and Echos on the list at one point and then I went, now I better not.

I've actually seen three of Ethan Coen's movies. I looked him up on I'm to be. I've only seen three of them, but I've seen three of them. You can guess one of them maybe.

You can't know Brother We're Out though. I'm raising Arizona. Big Lebowski. Who?

Fargo. Nope. One of them's a much later one, but it's a really well known one. Lew and Davis?

No. That cowboy one they just did. Oh, that one of us prescribed. That's older than that.

No country for old men. Oh, we were just talking about that one. And I tried three times to watch it and I went, no, you're too slow. I like it.

I did not have the patience for it. It's darker and slower than I typically enjoy, but I just found the narrative compelling. I really love Javier Bardeminate. The pacing to me was excruciating.

I just liked it for a lot. It was a good movie, but it's not a movie I'd ever want to sit through a second time. And I would probably watch it at some point in a labor through it like I did the Dark Cabinet of Dr. Calligarck.

I was get money neither of you to see the other one I've seen. Which one of us is that? The Lady Killers. That's on my list.

Yes, I love that movie. It didn't do well. It's like the million in my high school career. The Crick's didn't love it.

The top hangs was absolutely brilliant. I love that movie. Oh, you know what I'm talking about now? They rock on my mother.

They dig into it too. I love that movie. They're gonna die so much. Yeah, Joe and I saw that in the movie theater.

Oh, isn't everyone like an update at the end? Everyone except the old Lady Hills out. Yeah, who was fantastic. I don't think I've seen it since high school, but I remember it.

Everybody gets dumped on the bar. It went in the bottom of the bar. So, goddamn funny. The ones I mentioned for the Call of Brothers.

I think it's one I mentioned these are no specific order except for Mel Brooks. I gave up after Mel Brooks because I can't. Which was the first one they did, Raising Arizona? Raising?

Oh no, they did blood simple before Raising. You got a couple of people. I've never seen one of them. I didn't understand it.

There's never zero on four. You didn't understand it again. I was a kid. I was a kid.

I was a kid. I was a lot of these names from movies I've never seen. Oh yeah, they're the names of these films even. I didn't know they've been made.

Like the Martin for an after readings one. Martin Fink's great. I love Martin Fink against one. I didn't realize they made it, but I love that movie.

One of the things I love about the Coen Brothers is that there's a certain style to their movies. And Martin Fink, it's hard to describe. I don't know how to describe, but it's this certain film noir kind of, Martin Fink's not film noir, but there's a Coen kind of thing that makes you, that is that same kind of, it's not like film noir, but it's their own unique instead of being straight on realistic. It's heightened realism, it's heightened comedy, and it's kind of this blend of this dark humor and this heightened reality.

In very few cases, do I think they completely go into absurdity? And when they do, they do it with great plumb and they don't shy away. I'm looking at the cast for a Martin Fink. And I see John Ohoney, well I know from the future.

He was great. I see Steve Vashimi. And then I see Tony Shalub and Joff Turro. I don't remember Tony Shalub.

I don't know. He's one of those. He's Ben Guyslors. I love that movie.

The reason I bring up is because in the T-Shall Monk, there was a recurring character by John Biodop Turro who was Monk's brother. Oh, okay. So they're both in this together. Michael Lerner is outstanding in that film.

He's the studio head that hires Martin Fink. I've always loved his work. The ones that I have listed here, the Hudsucker Proxy, which I didn't understand on what I was thinking. That's where Tim Robbins is made the head of a company.

That's the one where they do this long shot without edits at the very beginning of the movie. And for a while it was the longest opening single shot without edits. Possibly. I can't remember the beginning of the film except for Charles Burdman.

He's walking and he's talking about stuff and he's talking to different people and it keeps moving in as he's walking and never changes. I don't know. There is a long one long shot in Burdman. Is that what you're talking about?

Very long tracking shot. I'm not thinking of Burdman, but I like Burdman. The Cone Brothers are ones that until I watch the second time, I usually did not understand it. That happened for a while.

Hudsucker was another one. I watched it the second time I went, this is goddamn brilliant. This is genius. I didn't understand why the first time I watched it, why everybody lost their minds over it.

Same thing with Big Lebowski. Didn't understand it at first. That's how I was here. I love it from the moment his carpet got peed on.

I was so used to John Landis's comedies or Mel Brooks comedies that I didn't get why Big Lebowski was funny until the second time I saw it and understood that quirkiness. It's almost like reading Shakespeare. It takes a while before you understand why. The Quirkiness is the word I was looking for when I was talking before.

There's a Quirkiness to most of their movies. I love that Quirk. I love that there's specific quirkiness the way they do it. Obviously I don't love all their movies because I don't love it with Brother Where Are Now.

I don't even like it. I love most of their movies and it's that quirky way they do things. That's the thing about the Cone Brothers. You know that you're probably going to get a very good experience out of it with these guys.

Like whatever they do. Lewin Davis, I enjoyed that. Moira Taylor really loved Lewin Davis. She liked it more than I did.

They're working on a movie right now called The Zebra Strike Hearse. Is there an option for him? Private Eye Lew Archer is hired by a young co-ed to find out why her wicked stepmother is draining her trust when a long-cat surfer leads into a dead body. That sounds very burn after reading in some ways.

I gave up on the screen. Which I thought was okay. I didn't want them to be able to talk to them. I love them.

I've seen them like finished it. But I've seen them four or five times. Is that the one brother? Is that the one brother?

Well that explains why I love it. When what's his name from ER? That guy opens the closet. When Darks Gluenie opens the closet and you've got a Brad Pitt in there and he smiles at him.

You're not expecting him to blow his head off. That was crazy. Because he grabbed the guy and shot him. The Coen brothers are also good at that gut punch.

Yeah. Kind of filmmaking. Which brings me to the Ballad of Buster Scruggs. Well I like Ballad of Buster Scruggs but there's not a single happy ending or new in any of those stories.

And I got to the point where I really wanted someone to end on a good note. It's like every single, like all these short tragedies. But the whole theme of the film was to show how sudden and tragic death could be in the Old West. That was the big theme throughout it because they looked at so many of the tropes that made Western films and they broke them down.

So the first one is about the Gunslinger and his singing cowboys and then the second one is about the Bank robbers in the Old West and then the wagon train which is my favorite. Where she shoots herself the most goddamn tragic story but it's so brilliantly tall. Ballad of Buster Scruggs is amazing. I really don't.

It is amazing and I guess the prospector when he actually shot the guy in the bag. But it's other than that. I consider it. I have no problem watching a tragedy.

When you're watching a Buster Scruggs and it's all these short things and every single one of them is a tragedy it gets a little heavy after a while. After the third one I do agree and the third one with Liam East and the third episode is really heavy and I did like Liam East and one. I love the way they presented the end of that. When have you seen that one yet?

I've seen it. The way they throw the guy off the very subtle though they never show. No but you know what he's going to do. Yeah he's represented by the chicken riding alone in this wagon without the armless man who was Dudley Dursley.

It's the actor that played him. The last two Hail Caesar. I have not. I love Caesar.

That's a fun one. I really want to see that. You guys make sure you get Cohen Brothers or not. I see that's a thing.

I can't be the only one who doesn't understand them. Yes that's actually the fifth one on my list is True Grit. You guys know I'm not a huge Western fan but True Grit was spectacular. Well it's based on the same book that the John Wayne True Grit was made.

Which both movies were nominated for Oscars because of the story. It's a great story. So hire a gunman to get your vengeance on you. It was Kim Darby in the first one I played the little girl.

Kim Darby was a spectacular beautiful actress back in the day. I'm pretty sure she's a lot better off than she did. But then she didn't. Did she act in very much.

How many things did she act in besides True Grit? It wasn't a ton of stuff. I would say she was in Halloween 6, the Curse of Michael Myers. She was in what was the one I just mentioned.

Better off dead. She was the mom and that. So whenever she shows up she's fantastic. But how often does she show up?

That's the question. I thought True Grit was a fantastic remake. I did too. I've never seen the original True Grit or the Rooster Cogran stories.

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