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Give it to me. What are some of your favorite Elizabethtown restaurants? Oh. Now you can do chains.
I'll be honest. I love chedders. I love chedders. I love back home.
Back on the so taste. We've eaten it for? Yeah. We've got a pinares a lot.
I like pinares. I like McAllister's. I like Ruben Silly, but McAllister's. That's what I like about Ruben's because I went to the first time I said it.
Oh, how was it? I'll be honest. I didn't. I had chicken parm sub.
The bread was great. The sauce was good. The chicken wasn't the best. The fries were really good.
I love the place. It's charming. It's definitely the best. I live two minutes away from you.
Did you have a pickle out of the pickle? Oh, God. They're so good. They're really nice.
They're really big beers. I don't drink. I want to drink. I want to drink.
I want to drink. I want to drink. I want to drink. I want to drink.
I want to drink. I want to drink. I want to drink. I'm not surprised.
Rubens is always solid. Really? I'm a hot roast beef and cheese. I want to enjoy.
I'm a clay head. I'm a close sandwich. I'm a really neat. I like that I have a Rubens.
Every time it gets better and better. That's my favorite sandwich. Rubens. What was really unique?
We were like who the men say we had been there before. They had a menu on the wall. That one was not complete. And other people.
Don't know us. They're going to love this place. They have a fan base. Once you eat them, oh, it's good food.
I put a little salt and vinegar on it. They're amazing. Flash fried. Penn station fries.
They're a little crunchier. A little more doughnut. You guys have been to the fish house. The new ones that have on Dixie.
We know it's a little north of the Planally on LA and it's kind of, it's looking just down the roof really, because it's, by the Walgreens there? Yeah, yeah. I don't pay attention to, I don't like fish though. It's not something I make.
I like fish too, but I'm always concerned about going to a new fish place because it's, hey, it's pricey. And if I get something I'm not necessarily fond of, then I view it as wasting my money. So fish is sketchy with me. One of my favorite restaurants in the world was called the Fish House.
Not anywhere related to this one. It was like, oh, dad and son, you opened that one, but I went there once a week. Yeah. So if this is a good fish place, they'll have a nice time trying to get it.
I'm thinking of, I'm going to be in the little one a few weeks. I'm going to go to Bluegrass Burger. Good place. Everybody's talking about it.
Yeah, it's all there. They've changed their menu a lot since I first started going there, but the burgers are still great. It's just, I want to see the leather. How are the fries there?
The fries are amazing. Yeah, because fries will make a break a place for me. I didn't eat at Mark's Beach store for years because I didn't like the fries. I don't like them, but I'm a potato salad and I was sold.
There's so much good seasoning salt at the table. Yeah, their seasoning salt is good. Any other places that are local that you guys like that are exclusive to here? That's why I mentioned back home.
I love back home as a place. I'm going to get a taste of the pizza place I've ever eaten. Top is good. We can like woman.
I love their food there. I love what we've done. It's good to rest with me. And depending on when you go, it's also the service can take a long time.
Oh, yeah. I mean, I've enjoyed every meal I had there. I like their brisket. Their brisket is amazing.
And their fish and chips is really good too. Here's the second half of the favorite question. What restaurant would you like to see here? Pizzeria Uno.
Oh, I would love a pizza. We already have a new pizza. We call it Boombas. You won't need more pizza after this.
Oh, yeah. I thought it was a pizza. No, it's Chicago style pizza. Yeah.
I love it. I'm a big one. I think it's the worst pizza. I love it.
But cheese is so bad. If we could have any place, I want a red robin here. Yeah, that'd be good. I would stop there and get the cheapest burger and just fill up on steak fries.
I'd rather have a chilies. I've never eaten a chilies. I've eaten a chilies. I wasn't that impressed.
I'll only get one thing there. It's their honey chilies. Yeah. I like spicy chicken, and a cold cob, and a fragile thicker little pepper on them.
I like a lot. I like a five guys here as well. I like five guys. I feel that after the last time I ate five guys when I realized I was only starving hungry the first time in the third time I went and went, oh, this is okay.
It wasn't great. It wasn't red robin. I really love red robin. I can't wait to try bluegrass burgers.
Yeah. It's a food we don't have anything you think that we're lacking here in. You know, technically we're pretty well represented. I went once, but the curry messes myself.
I like the onion food. But I like the place a lot. I like the non of the dipping sauce that comes with the non. I think we could have a second Indian place.
No, we certainly could. Different Indian restaurants have different food. I want a great place where I can sit down. Greek would be nice.
If they have the actual meals like the chop, you go to Sam's the mall, which I love. I love Sam's, but it's a hero place. You get a pita and you leave. You usually don't eat there.
But I want a good Greek place. It's like table size service. We've never had an Italian place. We've got all of the garden.
That's chain of Italian. I've shunned it for 30 years. I like that. You should go there and shake the no piece.
I love the no piece. They're much roulette. They're much roulette. I like chocolate.
They're fine. They're fine. But the one thing I've said ever since I moved here is that I usually go to a movies store. They're not one in the entire state.
No. I have to go to Cincinnati. You know what we need here, gold star chili. We go to Skyline in Louisville.
There's one gold star in Lexington. But every time we go to Ohio to visit Michelle's family, we get gold star chili. I used to like Skyline better, but I think I like gold star better. We need one.
We have Buffalo, one wings. Buffalo wings. I like the gold better. But there's a place that just opens Shepard's building.
It's my favorite version. It's called Cluckers. We'll take a road trip up there sometime. Because my goodness.
I want a mom and pop barbecue. I don't want a mom and pop barbecue restaurant here. Marts is fine. Yeah, but you're right.
Which is not right. No, I'm shot. On shop, there are independently owned barbecue places surrounding E-town, but there's not any town. Like you've got to go to Horse Cave or Cave City.
Yeah, for a little bit. That's barbecue. That's barbecue. Yeah, for a little bit.
I think it's very good. But they also have several like mom and pop places. Do they? Do they have a lot of smaller places like that as well?
Yeah, I feel like those are the best. There's one place in Cave City I thought about going because it's people who have opened up outside of an old gas station and they just have the smoker outside. And anytime you see this place that looks like you shouldn't go there, that's where you don't barbecue it. Yeah, there's a place a little called the Frankfurt Abbey Beer Depot, which I enjoy.
Yeah, what are they special? It's like a big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big. It's like a big thing. They have to change that second floor for the second one.
Shut down. It's really popular. Hang out. Not your lovely.
It's a podcast. No. It is a Jaredesso. No.
No. I like Jaredesso. I like Jaredesso. So, you know, I like my question.
And there have been a lot of people who have not been super satisfied with the way our country has been run for a while. Oh, you can't imagine. There's a threat that is occasionally levied. And that is that they're gonna move to Canada or move to like somewhere there.
What would it take for you guys to leave the United States? Money. If I had the money, I would leave right fucking now. Yeah.
Yeah. I would move to the Netherlands, where they have reasonable vacation laws and vacation days and the workers expected. Here's the thing about Europe though, as difficult as a demagoguery, as much as that stuff in Right Wing crazy nuts that's going on here in Europe, where there's a history that led to World Wars over this, it's on the rise again. Yeah, I heard about that.
I would be, there are times when I thought it'd be great to live in Europe, and I still think, I love Europe. I'm not sure I'd want to move there because I'd be kind of concerned about these countries that are starting to move away from democracy, even more so than some people in our government are trying to do it, who are trying to, are changing constitutions and changing their Supreme Court's like Poland and Hungary, and that are becoming very anti-immigrant, because they're looking at fascism again, it didn't do well before. Or it did really well before. But you know, all of these political thoughts were on the out until the Great Recession.
And then when we did the Great Recession, Europe made the mistake of embracing austerity. And so they didn't pump money into their economies because of the fear of inflation, which is what they think of as causing World War. Right, so they started it. So they left so many people in pain without jobs, and economies falling apart, where the United States, Obama pumped money into the economy, and as bad as it was here, we were so much better off than in Europe, which is why all these French parties are suddenly being attracted to people, because the center governments that were in all these countries weren't solving the problems that they were facing economically.
And then with the war in Syria pushing refugees, to Europe for safety, it was easy for the refugees to be demagogued by people who are using them as an excuse for the pain that normal people are feeling right. So that would be my concern about moving to Europe, even though I love Europe. I just have some on Canada, I would buy chicken. I've been, I look at it all the time.
I like the cold, but I want to escape it. My dream would be to move to a Caribbean island, like some third world country and open a theater there, and then teach them. I'm wireless, but you have to know. I have to go to a place that has internet.
Any island I would be concerned about global warming, making my island disappear. Well, that's okay. I'm talking about big island. I'm talking about big island.
I'm talking about big island. Yeah, essentially. I want to go to a theater now. I've retained the trade.
You'll say it will never get better than this run. So when that's the one that's the one that's the one that's about people who have left their country to go to a new country. Like expats, expats. Or even like 400 years ago, when people were moving from Europe to the United States.
So what do you think life was like for early settlers? People who left their country to go to an unknown place? We now kind of know everywhere. Like we know that we like what they have.
Versus moving to a place that has potential and nothing settled. Well, and no place to go for it, your health. You know, most of the, if you think about the pilgrims, more than 50% of them died that way. Because they got here, they weren't prepared for the weather.
They didn't know what they're getting into. No food. They didn't know how to find food. They needed the Native Americans to teach them how to plant crops.
What plant and what crops to plant. And so I think for the early settlers to this country, it took a lot of fortitude to come here and a lot of them were prepared for what they were getting into. Yeah. Every time I think of colonialization, I think of the Vich, the Vich, the witch, the movie, the witch.
Where they, it's a super religious guy. And the people in his little, in the town, and it takes place like in the late 1600s. The town, they're not being as religious as this guy wants. So he's criticizing them.
And so they're like, well, fuck you then, you can live outside of our walls in the woods. And so they do. And of course there's a witch in the woods and everything dies. Yeah, it's horrific.
It's being horrified of exclusion and all that. And the horrors that it brings. So that's what I think of colonialization. That's the wrong, everybody dying to know what he's knowing about it.
Systematic European colonization of what would come to be known as the Americas began in 1492 when a Spanish expedition headed by the Italian explorer, Christopher Columbus, sailed west to find a new trade route to the far east. But inadvertently, what came to be known to Europeans as the new world. And so called it India, did he not? Was he like, we're in India.
That's why Native Americans are called India. He thought that the name was Indian for a long time. Running around on the northern part of hispaniola, that was the country's time to the greater Antilles now, and on December 5th in 1492, which the Tino people had inhabited since the seventh century, the site became the first European settlement in the Americas. European conquest, large gay exploration and colonization soon followed.
Columbus's first two voyages in 1492 and 1493 reached the Bahamas and various Caribbean islands including Hispaniola, Puerto Rico, and Cuba. In 1497, John Cabot on behalf of England landed on the North American coast. And a year later, Columbus's third voyage reached the South American coast. As the sponsor of Christopher Columbus's voyages, Spain was the first European power to settle and colonize the largest areas from North America and Caribbean to the southern tip of South America.
Yeah, they had the first fort in America and Florida, St. Augustine. The Spanish began building up their American empire in the Caribbean using islands of Cuba, Puerto Rico, and Hispaniola spaces. The North and South American mainland fells in Conquistadores with an estimated eight million deaths of indigenous populations, making this the first large-scale active genocide in the modern era.
Is that the Mayans that they were killing? Mayans as they are. How many of the Mayan are direct killing and how much of its disease? That's what I'm wondering, because bringing the Europeans of these lands.
Well, because Columbus left behind some of the his sailors, because one of his boats sank. So by the time he came back, most of the Indians on that island had already died from disease. Florida fell to Juan Ponce de Leon after 1513. From 1519 to 1521, Ernon Cortez, were used to brew a campaign against the Aztec Empire.
Yeah, Cortez was the conquistador, he was the nasty. The Aztec capital to Nachtabon became Mexico City. The chief city of what the Spanish were now calling, New Spain. Later, the areas that are now California, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Texas, Missouri, Louisiana, and Alabama were taken over by other conquistadors, such as Ernando de Soto, Francisco, Vasquez de Coronado, and Alvar Nunez, Cabeza de Vaca.
Imperialists, all of them Imperialists. So, let's say, the South, Francisco, Pizarro, conquered the Inca Empire in the 1830s. Other powers, such as France, also founded colonies in the Americas, in Eastern North America, a number of Caribbean islands and small coastal parts of South America. Portugal, colonized Brazil, and tried colonizing the Eastern coast to President Canada, and settled for extent peers northwest.
The age of exploration was the beginning of territorial expansion for several European countries. Europe had been preoccupied with internal wars, and was slowly recovering from the loss of population caused by another topic of our podcast. What's that in plague? The Black Death.
Thus, the rapid rate in which it grew in wealth and power was unforeseeable in the early 15th century. So, following that Black Plague, here's this new territory to expand, allowing for a vast asset. Let's kill everybody on it. We'll settle.
Eventually, nobody there. There's nobody there. We'll just kill whatever the answer. Right, right, the horrible.
And it's civilized. Most of the Western Hemisphere came under the control of European governments, leading to changes to its landscape, population, and plants and animal life. In the 19th century, over 50 million people left Europe for the Americas. The post-1492 area is known as the period of the Colombian exchange, a dramatically widespread exchange of animals, plants, culture, human populations, including slaves, ideas, and communicable disease.
Between the American and Afro-ur Asian hemispheres following Columbus's voyage to the Americas. Which makes sense. You don't go to Africa without getting the shots. You're immunizations.
You don't go to another country like that without your immunizations. We'll still get malaria. And die, like quickly. The first successful British colonization of the Americas, including colonization about the English and the Scots, was in 1607 in Jamestown, Virginia, and reached its peak when colonies had been established throughout the Americas.
The English and the British were among the most important colonizers of the Americas. And their American empire came to rival the Spanish, American colonies, and military and economic might. Three types of colonies were established in the English overseas possessions of America in the 17th century, and continued into the British empire, to hide its power in the 17th century. These were charter colonies, proprietary colonies, and royal colonies.
A group of 13 British American colonies collectively broke from the British empire in a certain setting. I know. I didn't know about that. I didn't know about that.
Through a successful revolution, establishing the modern United States. Did Aaron Burr have something to do with that? He did, and he's average the second United States. Yes, it's not.
That's not from the very first. Also called the other United States. The Western United States. It was called the United States, but it had an asterisk next to it.
Here's the question of the United States. Our portion of the United States. Right, right. Did you notice I said that Jameson Virginia was the first successful colonization of the United States?
Yes, I did notice that. Are you familiar with the first attempted British colonization? No, no, no, no. Are we talking about the disappearance?
We're talking about the Rhona colonies. That's what I was going to do a report on this one, but then I didn't follow through on it. No, I didn't do this. No joke.
The fifth screenplay I ever started writing, which was in some time in the mid 2000s, it was about the disappearance of Rhona. What it was about there was a psychic, a fake psychic who was doing a show. James Rhona? It was him.
It was much like a James Rhona character who knew he was a fraud, but he was showy, and so he was on TV. He was a personality. And they went to Rhona and he starts feeling really kind of funny, and he starts seeing visions of the settler. So I did a ton of research, and I got about 60 pages through.
It was the best screenplay ever written. It was great writing. It was in the language, was loyal to what the language was back then. The same people were character, like the same people that were part of the Rhona thing.
I did that, and then I heard that M-Nikes, the village was coming out, and I gave up. I went, oh, if he's already done it, well, I give up. And then the village was nothing like what I written at all. It wasn't until I wrote it out.
No, nothing about it, but I was a good gumber. I was even dumber with him. I'd give him up. I just gave up for like a year, and then after a year, you go, well, I don't need to go back to that.
It would have taken a much larger budget than what I thought I would have ever had access to. How many characters kept saying crow-a-toe and crow-a-toe? I think I didn't really have any of them, really same crow-a-toe. So the Rhona colony, as an enterprise, was originally financed and organized by Sir Humphrey Gilbert.
I'm a free giver. Humphrey Gilbert, who drowned in 1583. No, that's one does. We're turning from a voyage to the fishing settlement at St.
John's Newfoundland. Lovely. Sir Humphrey. I love Raleigh.
He's a pirate. Gained his brother's charter from the queen, and subsequently executed the details of the charter through his delegates, Ralph Lane and Richard Grenville. Raleigh's distant cousin. Was Raleigh a pirate?
He was a privateer, wasn't he? I might take it up something else. A lot of people were. I don't know what he did.
He could have been. On March 25, 1584, Queen Elizabeth I, granted Raleigh a charter for the colonization of the area of North America. This charter specified that Raleigh needed to establish a colony in North America, or lose his right to colonization. Yeah, I remember that.
I was there. I was there. The intention of this venture was that Raleigh should provide riches from the new world. The queen's charter said that Raleigh was supposed to quote, discover, search, find out, and view such remote heathen and barbarous lands, countries, and territories to have hold, occupy, and enjoy.
And go have fun, Walt. Yeah, you guys have fun. No, I'm good. I'm good.
Right. The queen's charter also said that Raleigh was supposed to establish a base from which to send privateers on raids against the treasure of the spades of Spain. Oh, of course. So that's the way it has piracy.
Spain got show picked on during the age of piracy, because everybody was like, get Spain. We'll give you money. What were they called the private to the mark? You'd get the mark, and they were every one of them were like, the Dutch, the French, the English.
They were like, kick the shit out of Spain. Go Spain, they had all this silver and gold. They had all the gold. They had the gold.
They're going to attack one's shit. It's going to be spandex. What were they called the big, the big galleons that carried the, they were warships. They were like man-a-words.
They carried all the gold and all that stuff. Yeah, they were hugely marked. The purpose of these raids was to tell Spain that England was ready for war. The original charter basically told Raleigh to establish a forward military base to counteract the activity of the Spaniards.
Raleigh himself never visited North America, although he led exhibitions in 1595 and 1678 to South America's Orinoco River Basin in search of the legendary Golden City of. El Dorado. I love El Dorado. On April 27th.
I wouldn't know to South America. You live on El Dorado, don't you? That's why the pagers you can build. Oh wait, no, it's paid in terrible black topics.
It's horrible. It's like, right in the country right now. We're smack in the middle of Elizabeth. Yeah, in the various roads everywhere for months now.
On April 27th, 84, Raleigh dispatched an expedition led by Philip Amos and Arthur Barlow to explore the eastern coast of North America. Amos Amos. Amos Amos. They're my lawyers.
They're good. They arrived on Roanoke Island on July 4th. And soon established that with the local natives, the secotens and Croatens. Yes.
I always want to say Croatens, but it's Croatens. But it's Croatens. Barlow returned to England with two Croatens named Monteo and Wanchase, who were able to describe the politics and geography area to Raleigh. Based on the information given, Raleigh organized a second expedition to be led by Sir Richard Grenville.
Grenville's fleet departed Plymouth on April 9th, 1585 with five main ships. And please check out these names of these ships. Tiger. Yeah.
Robot. Tiger. Robot. Red Lion, Elizabeth, and Dorothy.
I remember when I was doing my research. Tiger and Dorothy. When I was researching the script, I was writing, I looked at the names and I went, oh, fuck. I can't use any of it.
It sounds like I'm with Elizabeth. It sounds like I'm with the whole lot. Yeah. I was like, no, I'm not an tiger.
Tiger. Yeah. What a horrible, but who does that? A severe storm off the coast of Portugal separated Tiger from the rest of the fleet.
Oh, poor Tiger. The captains had contingents if they were separated, which was to me up again in Puerto Rico. And Tiger arrived in the Bay of Mositos, Gwenia Bay on May 11th. Waiting for the other ships, Grenville established relations with the residents of Spanish, while simultaneously engaging in some private tier.
You know. You also know what to do. Elizabeth arrived soon after the fourth construction. It was such a stupid sentence.
Grenville eventually tired of waiting for the remaining ships and departed on June 7th. The fort was abandoned and its location remains unknown. For shadowing? Yes.
No, not at all. Tiger sailed through the Ocracoke inlet on June 27th. I hate O'Brien. But it struck a shoal ruining most of its food supply.
Yeah, it would. The expedition succeeded in repairing the ship and in early July reunited with Roblack and Dorothy. I guess they weren't used to reset the ship. That's not where they were.
Which arrived in the outer banks with Red Lion, some weeks previous. Red Lion had dropped off its passengers and left for independence. I'm a super-real. That's, you know what, that's not even super real.
I got a super real life. I got a super real life. Right. During the initial exploration of the mainland coast and the Native settlements, the Europeans blamed the natives of the village of Aquascoguk for stealing a silver cup.
Oh, this is where it goes now. As an retaliation, the settlers sacked and burned the village. It was a misunderstanding. It was a misunderstanding.
They blamed the wrong tribe. There was acrimony between the two tribes anyway. It took up. Yeah, no, they took that seriously.
This account was written about by several individuals and his reports were sent back to England. England knew that we're off to a bad spot. Right, this is probably the natives right now. Despite this incident and the lack of food.
Grenville decided to use Ralph Lane and 107 men to establish a colony at the north end of Roanoke Island promising to return in April 15, April 1586 with more men and fresh supplies. The group disembarked on August 17th, 1585 and built a small fort on the island. There are no surviving renderings of the Roanoke fort. But it's like they sent the one in Goniobey.
Grenville, in the tiger, on his only a seventh day of sail captured after a three-day battle, a rich Spanish yalian, Santa Maria de San Vincente, all from Utah, which he took with him as a surprise back to England. Well, there's the name of the ship. That's how many of you were assigned to the ship. How many of you were assigned to Vincente?
Yeah, that's the one I want to ride. I like the Spanish names of that. The outer of the Queen Andrew Bench. That's I want to ride that.
As April 1586 passed, there was no sign of Grenville's relief fleet. Meanwhile, June, bad blood resulted from the destruction of that village. And stirred and tapped on the fort by the Little Native Americans, which the colonists were able to repel. Soon after the attack, Sir Francis Drake was on his way home from a successful Raven and he stopped at the colony and offered to take the columns back to England.
Several accepted, including melurgist Joachim Gans. Joachim Gans. Joachim Gans. He made my brakes.
He made my brakes. That's why you priced into the tree. That's exactly why I crashed into the tree. That's why I was drunk.
Okay. He's representing commercial from the podcast. Oh. Did somebody come to a tree?
How did the Hill House address? Yes. In case the listeners are concerned, I'm okay. Yeah.
Oh, all right. And so is Drake. Drake's fine. He's still.
He's fine. He's not alive, but he's still fine. So Andrei Sverternvoyich, the roto colonists, introduced tobacco, maize and petitos, England. Maize.
You call it corn. The relief fleet arrived shortly after the commercial. That's the first of the year of the colonists. However, when the relief fleet arrived, they found the colony abandoned.
What was drawn on the tree? This is before that. God damn it. Okay.
Well, I was going to say, wasn't his return slowed down because of the war? Yeah, we're not there yet. This is before that. This is the prologue.
This is the prologue that went down the road. So, Grenville returned to England with a blow up his force, leaving a small attachment to maintain an English presence and to protect Raleigh's under arrest. So, colony, burned down this native settlement. Head back to England, we'll be back a little bit.
Two years later, we come back. Correct. The colony's gone. Let's try again.
I'll leave 15 men. Hold on to this. That was all in 1585 and 1587. Raleigh dispatched a new group of 115 colonists to establish a colony on the chest of the tree.
They were led by John White, an artist and friend of Raleigh who had accompanied the previous acquisition of the remote and was appointed governor of the 1587 colony. It was probably a good guy. It was probably a nice guy. White and Raleigh named 12 assistants to aid in the settlement.
They were ordered to stop at Roanoke to pick up a small contingent left there by Grenville the previous year. But when they arrived on July 22nd, 1587, they found nothing except a skeleton that may have been the remains of one of the heroes. So, whole colonies there, disappears. They realize that they leave 15 men.
Go back. When they come back again, 15 are gone again. Let me stop you right there. I have a theory about that.
The natives left a plastic skeleton in the sand. The people from the back. They were like, they're like, they're scared and they won't want to come back. And it worked.
They didn't. They didn't work. But they stayed. I don't think 15 guys, even if they have muskets, have enough military strength to stop an entire tribe from killing them and whatever they did to them.
Retribution for wiping out their village because of a cup that they didn't take in the first place. If Vietnam taught us nothing else, it's that we probably shouldn't go to where the indigenous people are and not expect them to get to us any which way. They're so familiar with the land. They're going to kill us.
There's no way you can take on a whole tribe with even 100 people. They're going to get you. They know the forest. So remember that the plan for this new expedition was to a Chesapeake.
But when they could find no one, the master pilot Simon Fernandez refused to let the colonists return to the ships, insisting they establish the colony on Roanoke. Or it's because decisions to sell the Chesapeake data's nation had already agreed upon prior to the arrival of Roanoke. So they were supposed to go in Chesapeake, but now we'll stick here. Yeah, you guys go ahead and set up there.
Probably be fine. Off to a strong strike to go wrong. They're trying. Nothing.
It's fine. White reestablished relations with the Croatans and other local tribes. But those with whom Lane had thought previously refused to meet with him. Shortly thereafter, College of George Howe was killed by a native while searching alone for crabs in Albermal Sound.
The colonists persuaded Governor White to return to England to explain the colony's desperate situation and asked for help. Left behind were about 115 colonists. The remaining men and women who had made the Atlantic Crossing plus White's newly born granddaughter, Virginia Dare. That kid made its way in the West.
So there were some women in this. There were some women and they were women in the child to protect you. The first English child born in the Americas, Virginia Dare. White sailed for England in late 1587.
Although crossing the Atlantic at that time of year was a consulorous. This from here out is just a comedy of errors. That's all this story is. It's like the thing going wrong with it.
So crossing late 1587, plans for a relief fleet were delayed first by the captain's refusal to return during the winter. And then the attack on England of the Spanish Armada. And then the subsequent Anglo-Spanish war. It has happened.
It's not only delayed. Every able English ship joined the fight leaving White without a need to return to Roanoke at the time. That was 1587. In the spring of 1588, White managed to acquire two small vessels and sailed for Roanoke.
However his attempt to return was thwarted when the captain's attempts attempted to capture several Spanish ships on the Alberdon voyage in order to improve their profits. The themselves were captured and their cargo seized. With nothing left to deliver the colonists, these ships were turned in. I just want to get to Virginia.
Please, for the love of God. Did you guys stop attacking merchant ships? Because of the continuing war with Spain, White was unable to mount resupply attempt for a full three years. He finally gained passage on a privateering expedition organized by John Watson while to Roanoke.
They agreed to stop off at Roanoke on the way back after raiding the Spanish to the Caribbean. White landed on August 18, 1890 on his granddaughters' third birthday. But he found the settlement deserted. His men could not find any trace out here.
He could not have his trace of the 90 men, 17 women, and 11 children. Nor was there any sign of a struggle or battle. That's the weird thing. Only clue was the word.
If you've lost your supplies, you're going to have to do something. That's what I wanted to do. That's what I wanted to do. That's what I wanted to do.
One's going to be a better place to go than this place you've already established. Yeah, but there's no food. You can't wait three years to be recently. You've got to do something.
But there's no bodies. No, I'm wondering if they were either carried off or they left. I wonder if they assimilated themselves. Let's look at the theory.
That's the only people who know how to survive. The only clue was the word. Crowton. Crowton.
Crowton. Crowton. That's why I keep mispronouncing it. Farbed into a post of the fence around the village.
And the letters CRO carved into a nearby tree. All the houses and fortifications had been dismantled. Not destroyed, but dismantled. Which meant that their departure had not been hurried.
Before he had left the colony, why instructed the colonists that if anything happened to them, they should carve a Maltese cross on a tree nearby indicating that their absence had been forced. But there was no cross indicating that they had moved to Crowton Island, now known as Haderas Island, but he was unable to conduct a search. A massive storm was forming and his men refused to go any further. And the next day they left.
Well, they're in the Carolinas, Virginia, around August. That's a bad time to be around that area. Well, Haderas didn't work for a line I thought. There's no cross, but they weren't forced to go anywhere.
Everything had been dismantled, which means they had the time taken. But why would you dismantle it and then leave it? They didn't dismantle it and take it with them. It's almost when you see somebody that had to leave the house in a hurry and have no idea why.
So maybe they were planning to leave, but then something made them urgently and they had to leave everything behind. Sorry, here's a little brief detail where we're talking about how we know what we know about the colony. Born in 1960, not 1960, Thomas Harriet entered Raleigh's employment in the early 1580s after graduating from Oxford. He had been among Arthur Barlow's 1584 expedition of the colony.