The Wild Cards Get Schooled

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You guys just don't understand. Welcome to Wild Card Podcast. I'm your host, Jared Eaton, and my co-pilots on this journey to wherever are my good friends, Jeff Curtis. Hello there.

And Judge Claude Frollo gave the child a cruel name. A name that needs half formed, Ron Blair. That's mean. That's mean.

I'm a little hurt today, but I'm sensitive. I brought my vagina today. Oh, you left. I did.

I brought it. I thought something was missing. Everyone will recall from last week's episode, Ron Blair's is not going all the way to his vagina. It doesn't go all the way down.

It stops. It stops at the point where you'll apparently die frame and I didn't even put one in. Interesting. Yeah.

I like the other die frame you say. Well, my age, I can't get pregnant. I'll say this. It'll be a horrible thing.

Yes, at your age. You might not get pregnant. You can't get pregnant. You can't get pregnant.

Well, I brought it to the time. Oh, okay. It's in the box. So which bathroom are you using?

Both. I got it both. It depends on which I have. I've heard it both ways.

Yeah, yeah. Well, you're learning more about us. See, every time you talk to us. So much more.

Speaking of learning more about us, this is the favorite section of the podcast, Ryan, as the gentleman, to give me their favorites of something. In honor of pizza. I'm going to say this is my favorite section. This is my favorite favorite.

This is my favorite favorite. This is my favorite. That's my favorite favorite. Well, let's see.

I'm going to have a strong view. Oh, man. Do you have a candy? I do.

I don't seek it out. Oh, I do. I use it like a missile. Yeah, like all the time.

There are times where I'll be binging on it and think, I love candy. I should eat more candy. So what are you binging on when you were binging? Okay.

That's not candy. Oh, we're still on candy. I like cake. I'm an anti-ad I like cake.

I'm an anti-ad. I'm an anti-ad. I'm an anti-ad. I'm an anti-ad.

I'm an anti-ad. Sometimes the penance is what I want. Sometimes I say peanuts. I'm an anti-ad.

I do not like coconut in my candy. I do not like coconut in my candy. I disregard what I said. I will seek out.

Yeah, go ahead. I don't like coconut in my candy. I understand that. I understand that.

I love it. I'm an anti-ad. I'm an anti-ad. Red twizzlers are, you know, they're another one.

I'm an anti-ad. Are they black twizzlers? I love that. Yeah.

We're them in three. It's whatever you want. I put chocolate through flavor in a candy bar format. What's my call?

I like those. I like dipping my kick hat in a cool whip. That's why I love that. there was a marathon bar.

Oh, yeah. You remember marathon bar? Was it yellow? No, it was in a red package, but it was shaped like DNA.

DNA strand. Yeah, it's like you said it. Oh, I'm really interested in that. Oh, I remember this.

I don't remember. It was chocolate. It faintly. I remember it.

It was chocolate in an ad. It was caramel. I don't think it wasn't nougat. It was caramel.

Yeah, nougat. But anyway, I love marathon bars, but they've disappeared. I haven't seen one in 20 years or 30 years now. You just faintly remember them.

Just the time they've been around when you were a child. I think they're a Heathbar. Oh, I love Heathbar. OK, you just bite into the Heathbar, and you suck the chocolate off?

I'll bite the chocolate off. Yeah, I'll bite the chocolate off. You can chuck around and take the... I didn't say anything for us.

I like a cold, free must be tears, Bar. Go chuck around, enjoy the nougat last. When you put it in the freezer, does it harden up or anything? The nougat a little bit depends on...

I don't even know what you should put in the freezer, but that one for it. Reese's cup is one of the freezer. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they melt easily.

Yeah, I like that cold, cold bite of Reese's cup. Now that it's Halloween, you could bat spiders, whatever, make them Reese's, all of them. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, that's why I wanted to talk about candies, where I approached you in the month of Halloween. It's like, we all know that Halloween is a celebration of all things candy. Right. That's why I celebrate Halloween.

Sour Patch Kids, I can eat up. I'm not a big fan of Gammy stuff. I don't like sour candy. I like sour, I don't like Gammy.

Interesting. I'll eat a warhead. I won't seek it out, but it'll be a bit fun. I used to love one of this for my friends when I was a kid, because I will not make a pucker face.

One or two, worry them out. I'll pretend like it's not sour. And so I'd give my... I'll use some candy if you want something on the wrap right hand.

And then I'll put it in the middle of my mouth and just explode it with my tears. I'm a big fan, especially. You know what I'm speaking of what John says for? You know why I threw my tears with coffee and my tears?

No. Because it used to be three candy bars at one. Really? My little section?

No? But it was chocolate vanilla and strawberry. But chocolate was popular. It's doing the entire thing chocolate instead of having the other flavors.

Oh, that sounds lovely. I think so too. I like the ice cream versions of candy. Like Snicker, Snicker, Snicker, Snicker, and Snicker, Snicker, snicker, Snicker, ice cream bars.

Reese's like, oh, Butterfingers, yes. I've got to get the better. And outside of the ice cream salad, all the paydays. Paydays are probably one of the most popular.

Yeah, paydays are great. Are you guys around zero bar? Yeah, I'm not a big fan of white chocolate. Oh, okay.

And that's the problem. I'll eat with pretzels chocolate white. Yeah, white chocolate. I like those, but I don't see that white chocolate.

I love dark chocolate. Not the only thing I don't like chocolate was Reese's. Oh, no. When it comes to peanut butter, I don't like it in my milkshakes or my pies or anything like that.

I'll eat a Reese's cup all day long and I love peanut butter and crackers. But in my desserts, not so much like a milkshake or something. What about chocolate covered blank? Yes.

I don't like apples, almond raisins. That's what I like. I love chocolate raisins. I think I'm raisins in the first place.

I don't like raisins, but I don't like chocolate raisins. I don't like chocolate raisins. I don't like chocolate raisins. I don't like chocolate raisins.

I like chocolate raisins. I don't like sour raisins. I like both raisins. I like both raisins.

I used to eat chocolate raisins. I'm not into them anymore. Yeah, it's not pleasant for me. I talk a lot.

It works, so it's kind of a nice little relaxing flavor for the throw and have a look. I've got 3 minute break. You can't do it. I'd be fine.

I do eat a lot of halls. Big halls, man. Yeah, I'll pop halls like it was candy. Yeah, I've done that.

I'm very guilty of that the fast. We're sad. We're sad. We're sad.

Another one. Is that the old-murdled fashion candies? Yeah. The Ruby of Candy?

Oh, man. The Ruby of the youngest is in Jared's advanced biology class. It's not advanced. He's teaching it's advanced.

He loves it. He loves your class. Anyway, it kisses me off and they would bring home a bag full of sweet parts and smarties. I'm like, where's the chocolate?

The tiny Snickers bar. There's nothing fun about a fun-sized candy bar. No, fun-sized candy bar is the worst. No, fun-sized candy bar is the worst.

He's most inappropriate. The name thing I've ever heard. Fun-sized should be. Fun-sized should be.

It takes two arms to carry this. That's what I'm thinking. Where I'm like dislocating my jaw. That's what I'm thinking.

Yeah, the little ones are just a tease. A tease makes me want to slide her down. You guys have gel fans? I can't chew.

I don't see it out. I like juicy fruit, but that's about it. I'll chew it. The flavor goes away.

You have this big wad of no flavor. I like fruit stripe too. Again, I don't see it. I don't know how to phrase it.

I don't like it. Yeah. All right. Thank you.

Great. Thank you. Saluteed candy. How do you like big leaf chew when I was a kid?

When I saw you, you go and that was the one. That was fun. The top is baseball card's the worst. That's the worst thing I'm in the world.

Or opposed to jail. It's horrible. It doesn't taste good in the first place. You're like oooh this is slightly shirly.

That's weird. You're supposed to take the cartoon out. I just figured that out. It's not like the 44 years, ever now, seriously.

The gum is awful. It's shitty. What about those cinnamon bears? Did you ever have the cinnamon bears?

I don't like those. I don't like that. Cinnamon jelly beans or something. I'll eat those all that.

Yeah, like I'll eat them all the way. Oh, I'll eat them all the way. Yeah, those are the jelly beans. Yeah, I'm not a big cinnamon fan.

I like spicy food, but I don't want my candy. No, so Christmas, you're not a big one. No, I just choose to ignore Christmas. That's my way with this concept.

That's upsetting. All right, we're going to get into the topic today. And I'll be honest with you here listeners. I always bring reports.

He's unprepared. He's running it. He's running it. You're running it.

Everybody's running it now that we've gotten so busy. That's all of a sudden I'm not such the big jackass. We're not being prepared. I'm a lovely jackass.

Here's the thing. So, hunchback. Yeah, hunchback. That's happening.

Which is fabulous, by the way. Maybe the one guy who has seen it and is not in it. We haven't seen it. It's a fantastic show.

You guys really stand out. You're wonderful. Thank you. Despite his assertion that he's the new Ron, which is under bullshit, he was phenomenal.

Tim Isaac kills it out there. Jess fucking kills it. A hoke has someone to eat. He's all on the one.

I go, listen to Kelsey Floyd. Very sexy out there. I'm creepy. Sorry.

Sorry, everybody. So, between that and then I moved yesterday. I live in Elizabethtown. I had like an hour this morning, which I could have written or four, but it wouldn't have been satisfactory.

I really want to do well, so I'll have some time before we come back. Sometimes you wake up and say fuck it. I'm not. I put together a more facilitated discussion.

I'm introducing what I call the wild cards fix with a colon after it. Like a colon. Like a piece of large intestine. That's what I was thinking.

I just think if there's three guys you want to solve the world's problems. It'd be us. It's whether it's social problems, economic problems. We're all about it.

We can come up with a more solution. Yeah. We hate racism. There you go.

Problem solved. Don't be it. Don't be it. Before I get to what we're fixing today, I want to ask you guys another question.

What did you want to be when you grew up? I made more of an answer. You made me onto phases. When you were young, what was he wanted to do?

I wanted to have sex and smoke dope. You succeeded. I did well. You checked off your life holes and now you have nothing.

I have nothing. Now my bucket list is so ridiculous. It's filled with crazy things. Hopefully, Act 2 is going to get really good.

I'm looking at your bucket list. It's just as eat a man. Eat a man. He's an unusually fond of cannibalism.

You know, a bucket list, I'm just saying. If it were placed in front of me and somebody said, this is human. I don't know why. It's literally written on a bucket.

I can't go with shopping. Cannibalism. Number one. Two chicks.

Cannibalism. I knew it. Air Force Academy. I sent it to Colorado too.

We visited Air Force Academy a number of times at the challenge. I loved it. I loved everything about it. Then when I was 12, I got into a rock fight.

I was shattered in my glasses and went over. I went to... I'm not sure that Air Force Academy would have survived into teenager, into after-work anyway. I always had a strong desire to sing and write and perform.

I always wanted to be a rock star and write musicals. The rock star thing didn't happen. I'm still writing musicals. Did you ever picture yourself descending in F16 and singing?

I never saw myself as a pilot. I would have made a terrible pilot in the first place. It wasn't my goal to be a pilot. I'll take this.

There was a lure to the Air Force Academy that I just... Imagine Jeff's voice coming from the cockpit. Oh, that would have been amazing. Folks.

We're descending at 200 feet per second. He was a great, great pilot. I love that. So that was really one of the first jobs I could ever wanted to have.

It was to wear suit. You wanted to wear suit. Luljared suit. Suit with pants.

Like Angie's gun from ACDC. Yeah. There we go. I'm a pilot.

I can see that. That's common. Well, especially for the Jurassic Park era. In the movie where you're watching that.

Did you want to find a piece of amber that had a mosquito that had been... That's life. It's funny that you wanted to do it because I wanted to buy a piece of amber that had a mosquito in it and create dinosaurs. I didn't know what to do that.

I just wanted to say it because I was fascinated by that. There was nothing in my head that said these things should come back to life. Resurrection biology is a branch of biology. Well, we decided we were doing it.

But Jurassic Park hottest. Don't do that. Are we doing it? Art, can we bring back...

Well, here's the thing. Oh, that'd be cool. I'd love to see you. You can't actually get from a mosquito tree.

And when you clone something, you have to have a cell, like an egg cell, from an animal that is close enough that you can take the DNA and put it in that egg cell and plant that egg cell back into a female of a species so that that egg can divide and become the animal that's supposed to be. We resurrected a few animals, but mostly they're ones that are just going extinct. And so we've had the DNA from that animal before it died and then an animal is really close to it. So there's like a thing called a guar that we've resurrected.

Although when you resurrect it, it's not true. It's a hybrid though. Because the hybrid was and the mother that gave birth because the mother parts of the DNA that that doesn't. Can it then reproduce itself or...?

I don't think we've gotten that far. Because you wouldn't have anything of its original species to reproduce with. No, but if you had, if you'd reproduce more than one of them, like a male and a female, would they be able to have offspring or are they sterile? It depends.

A lot of animals like that, where they're kind of cross-breeds are sterile. Like they're like a mule. But life will find a way. A liger.

A liger is a liger. It's true. Mostly done in labs, but there have been some reports about having a wild. But liger is a real.

It's a good idea. Like, you and Malcolm, I agree with you and Malcolm that nature decided to, you know, Darwinism behind it. You're so occupied with that. You should never say that.

Could I switch it? I switched it. I said, you know what they could. They never said that.

Yeah, it was a pretty good joke. Oh, well, that wasn't. But let's move on. So, maybe if you got in the quote right, I would have been excited.

I would have been excited. Now I'm completely fine. I want to be a palliologist for a while, then I want to be a zookeeper. Then I want to be Jack Hanna.

A Martin of Arbheron Perkins, who will buy you? No. No, the actual human being. Yeah, that makes our parents.

No, no, Jack Hanna was a zoologist who worked out at Columbus Zoo who had a documentary where he went around the world talking about animals. Right. They made the Jetsons, right? They made the Jetsons in the Yogi Bear.

The animal in the Olympics. Yogi Beara, who said it's not over. He told over, let me. Fuck him if I can't take a joke.

He was probably my favorite Indian philosopher. He was in Churchill. He was in Churchill. He was my second favorite Indian philosopher.

Great. Because the British do so well in India. So Ron, do you actually have an answer for something you want to read? Was there a job?

Oh, pour on to what we want to do. I wanted to be a stand-up comedian for a long time. I did that. It was fun.

I didn't go very far. I had blown... It's not going to work. It's not going to work.

It's not going to work. How did I finish that? What have you blown? I've already blown that.

I'm not answering that. I really want to finish that. To really protect the victims more than myself. In 90...

It had to have been 93 and 94. I completely blew a set. It was bad. It was very bad.

I didn't do it for another 20 years. And then I went up to the county caravan. And I would tell all the comedians out there, I'm like, yeah, it's my first time. And then I would go out there and do my bit, which really killed.

And then I would come out and they're like, this is your first time. And I said, I've done theater for a long time. And they were like, oh, fuck you. You're deceptive.

Well, you know, you got to work. I was deceptive, yes. I am deceptive. Sorry.

Sorry world. Are you, are you wrong? You know, I wouldn't lash out if they hadn't beaten on me first. Oh, great.

I don't know. It's not gonna talk about the world. It's gonna be an act of... That's all I ever wanted to do.

I'm gonna do the question. Jeff, it's not really gonna fit you perfectly. And that's what he thinks he does. So Ron and I, we didn't exactly reach our goals.

Like I'm not on TV talking about animals. And Jeff, you initially won your pilot, but... No, I never won your pilot. You won your airport, Kevin.

But your circumstance would be different because there was an injury that might get you doing that. But you finished your goal. Now you want a rock star. Yeah, that hurt.

So my question is, why didn't we reach our goals? What kept us from doing it? I've been sloth for me. Years of self-loathing and being so introverted that I couldn't speak to people when I was in New York.

So I never actually met people. That's because I would be busy hiding. Well, as before I go out anyway. But hiding and hating myself.

What percentage of students do you think... Wow. I'm just gonna gloss over that. Jeff has feelings guys, they don't matter.

We don't do feelings here. So, what percentage of students do you think reach their goals? I don't even know what I can do. Depends on the goal.

Depends on how realistic they are. People who have realistic goals that I want to be assigned to. It's easier to reach that goal if you don't have a specific... I want to be assigned to that that that covers the cure to cancer.

But how many students know about that specific goal? Most students like, most kids want that specific thing. They've seen it move your TV show or book or something. Most of them, I try to graduate high school.

But why? Why did it change? I think the reality of it. When I was 14, I wanted to be on the wrestling team.

And then I quit when I realized you can do a clothesline or a suplex like a vertical. Right. Or something like that. And then I think this is what happens.

You get out there and there's the reality of it. But there is professional wrestling. Why did you go into that? But it's not really wrestling.

But that's what he wanted to do. The point I'm trying to make is... I don't think I had as much passion for these things as I thought. We're killing students' dreams.

They have these dudes and their kids. And then we aren't doing what we need to to get them there. So here's what I want to ask today. How are we going to fix education?

Oh man. We're going to fix education today. We're fixing education today. We're fixing education.

Because I'm a teacher. We can do this. We're together. One teacher.

And that's why I was a kid. You were children. We did research goals. And you have children now.

And do you want your children to be their goals? Do you want them to do what they want to do? I do. And I think they will.

But I think because I have not taken credit for this. Both my kids are individuals and their own people. But I did not raise them in a typical way. In the Dr.

Spock way of doing it. I never read a book. I winged it. And my number one goal is make sure that they feel loved every day.

Make sure that they feel protected and secure. And that they remain happy. And as long as we met that goal, they would go to school. They would be successful.

I was very lenient as far as I think parents get on the kids for. For being kids. Yeah. You can beat the joy of life out of somebody verbally or even physically.

Which I don't agree with. But I think we can just let them know their love. And education is the number one priority for these people. And as long as you go and you apply yourself.

I think that you will succeed in a way. It may not be the specific main goal that you wanted to. But I think there's a way. You're on the way there.

I don't. I mean we may as a society or education have something to do with making kids get on the green. But I also have a child whose interests change. And what you want to do when you're six or ten isn't necessarily going to be the same thing you're interested when you're 18 or even 22.

I don't think that society necessarily saying okay grow up. Be more realistic with your dreams. That's a terrible dream. I mean that's certainly true with a lot of people.

But I don't think that's only thing. I say for the three of us. The things that we want to do. We still kind of want to do those.

Right. You know they change. But I mean you still love comedy. I love comedy.

I don't want to be a stand up. I've made films. I've been in some films. Yeah.

There were goals that were reached. It's not the specific amount of fame. I do want to add this about the kids though. As far as raising them.

I think my kids. Me not meeting my goals. Has. Not rejuvenated.

That's not the wrong word. Motivated. Motivated my kids. Because I would always go this is what happens when you don't finish college.

That's what happens when you have to take a job just to survive and feed the family. It's not happy. We're just surviving. And I think they would look at that.

God. I don't want to end up like dad. You know end up like mom or dad. Not that there's anything horribly wrong with this.

But growing up poor sucks. Being poor sucks. Trying to feed four people. You know on five bucks sucks.

It's awful. And so when you raise a kid that way they automatically go shit. I got to do better. So what is the goal of education?

What should the goal of education be? Well the goal of education should be to prepare people to. To what? To be able to go out and support themselves and follow their path in society to achieve what they want to achieve.

That's what I would say. I would agree with that. So how do we equip everyone to do what they want to do and what people want to do is so different? Because right now it seems to be our education is very much this is the path you were going to go on.

Well the problem everyone starts to hear everyone ends there. Well one of the problems with education is that our modern school system was created at the same time we were industrializing the country. So it's really based on a factory set up of everybody coming in doing the factory thing. So school is like a factory where the child is the product.

And so you've got classrooms. And so it's not really even though we have schools. It's an assembly line. And even though the schools and different laws in different places try to make it more student focused.

You can only be so individually focused with your students when to a certain point when you've got hundreds of students that you're teaching and when you've got a system that is trying to move them forward. And so I think that's part of the thing. I'm not against the school. I love all the education.

But I think it will always be problems with it until society values teachers the way they value policemen or the way they value rock stars or the way they value baseball players. As long as we don't consider teachers to be as valuable as those people then we will always have problems. If we treated them and valued them the same way we value these other heroes. Our education system would change because people would want to have more people who wanted to be great teachers wanting to be teachers because they would feel valued as opposed to doing it because most teachers love their job or want to do their job.

But there's a lot of people who would be great teachers who would be inclined to be teachers but they can't make the money that they want to. Or they can't go back to school. There's all kinds of disincentives for those. And I don't think it's one, you can't just change a law or you can't just throw more money at it.

Although I think teachers need a lot more money and schools need a lot more money. I'm tired of public education supposed to be free until you actually have to take your child's school and bring all these things that you have to apply to the cast. Because the classroom doesn't have enough money to buy the supply that they need. That's not really free education then if there's not enough money for the teachers to actually supply the classrooms with the things they need to teach your children.

Well since we live in such a politicized environment I think there's a huge problem with these politicians who, and I'm not going to name any names here, McConnell, but I think that keeping people ignorant is their main goal. If you keep the parents busy for 80 hours a week and there's nobody at home, the kids have to fend for themselves. And you work the parents to death and you convince these kids that their only future is in the coal mine and that education is not important. And even stupid bevin has gone further to say that it's teachers problems, that the funds are running out, what they've been promised is running out.

The politicization of education is immoral. And you often have people making decisions for teachers or for schools that have nothing about education about students. Right, well that's the way the world is running. At least our country is being run by morons who don't know what they're doing.

They're not qualified for doing it. It's ridiculous. Yes, teachers should be idolized like they should be paid. I'm not saying they should get a doctor's pay, but it should be damn high than it is.

I'm saying if our best teachers were making $200,000 a year we would have great teachers. Well again, here's the thing though, again the politicized environment where they sit there and go, well you don't need to pay taxes, you earn that money. Don't give that to the government. Well where do you think the free education is supposed to come from?

Where do you think the betterment of society comes from? You don't want to pay your taxes. Fine, don't drive on the fucking road. Well that seems a simple solution, but seriously, I'm sorry.

I never want to speak. It pisses me off so much that people say I don't want to pay taxes. Fuck you, pay your taxes. We're all in it together.

But a lot of people are already sending their children to private education. So they don't care about public education. Well that's another big problem that people who can afford to send their kids to private schools don't give a shit about them. They also can't afford them.

Not that much of them. Oh, they are, no. I would say, I would say, my children would probably be school private. I have children because I think you learn so much more in school outside of the classroom.

Socialization and what to do when you face hardships. That's an important lesson that you should learn in the post to just, you know, and I'll be honest there. Central hard, there's some great teachers there. I hear kids talk about it.

It's a good school. I've been very impressed so far. There are only few teachers that I wouldn't put faith in with my children. And I've moved them out of those classes and put them in Jared's class.

The politicization of schools. I don't know. So the goal of education to prepare students for what comes next. So that leads to the idea of should everyone receive the same education.

What is equal? Is it equal that everyone gets the same education? Or is it equal that everyone gets what they need or deserve? Because those are different.

Well I need to deserve our different things too. Yeah, absolutely. I think a lot of kids don't get what they need and deserve because we're trying to give everybody equal education. I think part of the problem, and I don't think small classrooms are the solution to everything.

Right. Because there's a certain number of kids I think you need in the classroom before people feel free to have a discussion and stuff like that. But I think part of the problem is that you have so many kids packed together in these huge schools. Yeah.

And so it's impossible for teachers to give people the individual. See I don't think it's a question of the same what it is. Each person needs different things. Absolutely.

Just like each adult human being needs different things. Each student actually needs different things in order for them to succeed. And that's what you really have to look at. What does this person need to help push them to be as successful as possible?

Right. What does this person need? My daughter has a very high IQ. Yeah.

And so it would be very easy for teachers to not give her very much attention in class because she will get a good grade on her own. But that's not what she needs. She needs people who are going to push her to work harder and not be lazy just because she can do it quickly with little work. And so it's looking at each child whether they have a disability, whether they are gifted, whether what is that person's needs and find out what it takes for that person.

And I think that's what's lacking because I think it goes on. But I don't think it goes on as much as we need it to go on. And it can't. From being a classer because most of my time is devoted to behavior.

Making sure that there are many of these issues. And also as much as I would love to help, you know, as a student like your daughter, there are students who aren't getting it. We are pushing to show how much our kids aren't failing because failing was bad on the school. So kids can't fail.

So we've got to work so hard to bring you the bottom up. The top and road there. We're like, all right, it worked. Well, the priorities are way out of whack there.

And what kills me is they take the career test in middle school. What would you be best suited for? And then in their education they take these tests and they go, okay, I'm good to be a mathematician. So let's go ahead and ignore those tests and make sure that I have advanced English courses under my belt.

When I'm not saying that English courses are not important or that any courses are not important, but do I need anatomy to follow to get an English degree? If I'm going to be an English teacher in my life, do I need college algebra? Do I need these advanced levels of it? They're forcing these things.

They don't care about it. The word advanced you're using. There's such this competitive atmosphere of I've got to be the best in my class. I've got to get really good grades so that when I look at college they want to give me money on these things.