The Wild Cards Go There

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Car repairs. Your cell phone battery being low. There's always something out to get you. Welcome to the Wild Card Podcast.

I'm your host, Jared Eaton, and my co-pilots on this journey to wherever are my good friends, Jeff Curtis. Hello. And a God Among Men. A man among boys.

And a boy among gerbils. Ron Blair. I'm your cherry bomb! That's what he is.

He says that because he has a giant bowl of cherries right in front of him. Absolutely. I'm gonna eat him during this podcast. And to be honest to our listeners right now, this episode is being recorded immediately following up the last episode of that.

We just recorded it. So, following our discussion on horror, we are going to episode 10 guys. This is episode 10. What have you gained from this journey to wherever we've been on together?

What has this experience been like for you all? I've gained 10 pounds for a convertal's ruler. That's right. Yeah.

Sir. I've gained the understanding that people like to listen to this rant. There have been a lot of rants. There's a lot of rants.

And I've got a lot to rant about. I did not know that people would like to listen to this rant and go on for a minute. I've learned that people seem to enjoy it when I'm inappropriate. Because people didn't realize I could be.

Never are. Well, I'm gonna have rehearsal. I try to be professional. Like, I've got a professional hat I can put on.

But I can take that hat off and make a dick truck with the best don't you? I love it. So, but I just want to thank you guys. It's been a lot of fun doing this with you.

I hope we continue to many tens of more episodes. I agree. But I do want to address something that Austin Correll, one of our loyal listeners, said. You said that my comments about about being a heterosexual is more suspect than a nun squatting a cucumber pat.

Okay. And I feel like, I feel like Austin's judging that nun for squatting a cucumber pat. She don't know what business she can be hiding from a werewolf. Yeah.

I would hide from a werewolf. Because once they see a cat. I'm going to hide from a werewolf. They smell ya and you're done.

You know, I was even thinking the wolf man that you were talking about that you're not scared of. He still has super strength. He's still a savage. He's got claws.

He can rip on ya. I can't believe you're not afraid. I'm a choco. I don't, you can't put a big guy.

I do not believe that you could put a werewolf in a choco. He has a neck. He's got a neck. He's got a neck.

He's got a neck. He's got a neck. Then you're all right. I mean, you'll think you're around.

He's got a stronger neck. Like, how is a neck strong? Have you tried to? No, it's regular.

Twice. Twice. Very successfully. No, I don't strike on your wither coat.

I don't strike on my bare hands. You get them in the elbow right in the crook of the neck. There's no way you're strangling the bear. Really?

You are so pullish. Well, the wither makes sense. He's not the extra sense. He's not spinning his neck around the I tell you what, though, the one in Silver Bullet got shot with a bottle rocket in the eye and still came after the little boy in the wheelchair.

I got shot by two bottle rockets in the eye. And he was a preacher. His moral compass is obviously broken. And he can take a bottle rocket to the eye.

I cannot. Yeah. Well, you've learned a lot about it. He's too nervous.

I can find a werewolf. He thinks he can find a lot of fire. Such that Jeff doesn't like Fred chicken or movies or anything. I like Fred chicken.

There was nothing that existed in his little town in Colorado. I was a vegetarian for two years. We learned that we're actually, I'm not sure we've learned anything about it. Jeff, I think it's happened.

No, I'm going to know exactly what I suspected about wrong. But in the continuity of learning more and more about it, we always have a little question we ask where we say, what is your favorite this? So in that spirit today's question is, what is your favorite bathroom you've ever used? Oh, you remember that was a bathroom.

Plaza Hotel in New York City. What was special about this bathroom? It was just beautiful. It was so pretty.

It was made of marble. You have an attendant. It didn't have an attendant, which was disappointing. I can tell you this.

I was so impressed with it that I took a picture of the toilet as I was being, like the urinal. And when I got- Interesting. Yeah, you know- It was like the night of the little something popped up in that shot. It did not appear in that shot.

No offense, buddy. A little something on it. However, here's- Yeah, I'm actually offended by it. However, when I was checking my phone for the pictures later, there's somebody in the picture that I didn't take.

How did they- Actually, you were using? Well, they were a row of yours. Okay. Yeah, because it was the Plaza Hotel.

Rich folks have to pee too. I don't understand. And yeah, I guess I have a phone down. You took a picture of someone else urinating?

Yes, it meant- And you managed to get out alive. From the waist down. I didn't even know I had taken the picture until I was going through it. So obviously he didn't know that I took a picture of him, but I still have it.

I have several bathrooms. I'm prepared to talk about it right now. Yeah. I mean, bathrooms are something I tend to look for.

So what? You're talking one or two. Do we have to- No, it's like you were in the space. Because I only peed in that area.

You were in the space and you're like, this is a special space. Yeah, the Plaza Hotel. And Trent Byers was our real tour guide again. And we invented a song.

We invented a song. And it goes to pee in the Plaza Hotel. And we would go up and down the streets of New York, singing that. No, we paid attention.

Because everybody in New York sings as they're going down the street. It actually is a musical in Central Park. Yeah. Do you have any bathrooms that stay up to you?

Well, I spend a lot of time in a lot of variety of bathrooms. I can't think of any bathroom that stuck out to me as so beautiful or magnificent that it's like mind-blowing. I can think of a lot of different bathrooms good and bad. Like when I was in Italy, one thing that I like about their public bathrooms is they have doors that go from the floor to the ceiling.

I love that. I wish they had that too. Talk about privacy. Oh, an endistall.

In the stall. I think they're like walking into the bathroom. No, it's like a large door to pull a quick. And I don't mind saying a euro to go use a nice clean bathroom.

They have bathroom attendance that makes sure the bathrooms are clean. They're all over the way. Now, one of the things I don't like about, didn't like about Italian bathrooms. Not all of them have toilets.

Some of them have what they call as turkeys toilets, which basically are supposed to squat over. Yeah. I don't do squat over. I don't know.

It's good. I have to. I notice someone's out. I have to.

I need to sit down. If I need to use a squat toilet for anything other than urinating, I need to be able to place my weight on top. I see a good guy. That's why I won't poop outside.

Yeah. That's exactly it. I don't do it. I don't do it.

I need to feel safe. Yeah. I need to feel secure. There's, I think, there's like a trough where they're like collecting things to go into.

Right. Speaking of bad bathrooms that I've been in, not because they're, I mean, they've been bad bathrooms, but the worst thing is when you have to go use a bathroom and there's no toilet paper, but you have diarrhea and you're going whether or not there's no other. I have been in a situation where there was no toilet paper, but there was a croupled up old newspaper on the floor and I have to use that to wipe my ass because there's no fucking toilet paper. That's first.

I always look at that. Anytime I go in the bathroom, first thing I look for is there's no toilet paper. If not, can I go into another shop? Yeah.

Yeah. Now, you may move on. I was talking about the door of the soul. In my high school, there was some bathrooms that the soul didn't have doors.

Oh, God. There's no way. It was, I'm like, but you should got to go. Like you can't be like, well, I guess I'll, no, you got to go.

You know what? There were times I'd be like, go on, chief. In my entire school career? Never.

Oh, every day. Who once in a public day? Every day. Never.

I still did every day at school. No, it took me 40 years before I could poop in a public restroom. I do it at work now because I'm 44. Do it for five minutes.

Just a second place. Just a second place. I've been in there. Or at least half of that.

So good bathrooms I've experienced. I've got to be all in the talk about that. That's about to go on. Okay.

Continue. In New York City, in McDonald's on 14th Street. Yeah. I had to go in there because, you know, I have IBS.

So sometimes I have to go. Sometimes I have to go. So, and this was when I first discovered that I had, you know, IBS, you know, around New York City and finding out. Can we go back to the things we now know about each other?

So, you know, I had to go use the toilet. But there, talk about no door. The toilet. No, there's no stall door to it.

It's like this half wall here and here. I'm both open and front and urinals where people tell me how to urinate while you're using this toilet. So they can totally see it. They totally see you.

Did you take a shit in CBGBs? That's ever enough. I thought you'd use the bathroom in CBGBs. That's how I imagined the bathroom at CBGBs.

But in South Carolina, at a truck stop on 65, they have half doors. So you stand in the stall and the door comes up to your chest. It's like, so you can see me and have a conversation with me? I guess, well, this door, this door is at my chest level.

I don't like talking to anybody while I'm on the bathroom. No, no, no. There are rules about like even which you go to that. And we'll help all the rules.

They don't have the kids. And I look to Jewish to go to South Carolina anyway. I've been there once and I got looks. And I was like, I'm too dark to be here.

Let me tell you about great bathrooms. One, I lived in a lot of houses and I was young. And one house I lived in was my father, my friend's head, who was in third grade, my father got married. And we lived in this house in Clark's, Illinois.

And I lived in the basement. I had a room and a bathroom because the basement had been constructed for the owner's parents. So I was like, can you get access to the shower that I had in my bedroom? Had like a rail, what I liked.

But the bathroom, the toilet was on a step. Easier to get to. And I've never had a call for a show. So when I would take a shit, my feet would dangle.

So you felt like a kid again. It was incredible. It was the joy that we had a child. It was high school.

And it's online. Like, be just kicking back and forth. And you'd stretch out sometimes to get it. Let a good thing go.

And it was, it was special. You know, we're in pre-production for Jeff Curtis's Herroicus right now in which all the set pieces are larger than, but they're basically furniture. Yeah. We haven't even discussed a toilet.

But I think that would be an interesting thing to add. How do you have a diet toilet in the living room, Rod? Well, I think that would make any sense. I think the Coen record would enjoy using the toilet.

I'd have a director. Yeah. Would, but would, but no, we're not building a diet. Other bathroom.

I would like to build one in the state theater, just so I can sit there and poop and direct it the same time. Well, if I like having a conversation while pooping, I do not. So I went to Western Kentucky University. Me too.

For a, I didn't go for college, but for a conference when I was, as a second year of teaching. I mean, I went, I went in the alumni building. I lived in the middle of the office. And we had this conference that was going on.

I stepped in the restroom. And I was going, you know, went, it was a journal. Go to the wash my hands. In the mirror was a television.

Oh. So I'm washing my hands. And ESPN is on. I was like, lost.

So I took a picture of the TV. Not realizing that obviously this is a mirror. And now, no one else was at the yearless at the time. But if they had, I would have been clueless.

But then I realized on further examination, that was my first selfie. Somewhere in the world. First up, first up, every time I was a cat. Are you sitting at Western?

No, no. The final one I want to mention was, and I don't know what building this was. It was in Branson, Missouri. Oh, they had a nice bathroom.

Shouti Kabuchi was the show who was like this Asian guy of some, from some country. And he was, I think violin was his instrument. He would play a mean fiddle, like incredible show, a great production value. I remember sneaking out to go to the bathroom.

I don't know who was wearing the first active bathroom. And went to the bathroom. There was an open door to go into the men's bathroom. And there was like a waiting room inside the men's bathroom.

And a pool table. Oh, what? There was an attendant that you tipped. Yeah.

As they like, you know, it was awesome. It was awesome. It was awesome. It was a gave you a bottle of shurum.

It was great. As a 16 year old boy. I showed up in the morning, like 13 or 14. But then the great bathroom was just so luxurious.

And I didn't actually go back to the show. I just made the rest of the time in the bathroom because it was like such a cool, like, men retreat, men retreat. And then I'm so embarrassed. I can't know if the name is.

They don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I know. I know. I know. I know.

There's a museum in Louisville where the men's bathroom, there's a two-way mirror. So when someone's looking at this wall from the outside, they see themselves. From the inside, you're at the urinal, and you can see them staring at you. Oh my God.

That would freak the...? They don't know that you're urinating. You're like watching someone while you're going. I can't remember what museum is.

It's like a contemporary art museum in Louisville. Was it JB speed? I don't know. It was completely meant for sexual purposes so that you can do a nasty thing in the bathroom while watching out for people.

thing in the bathroom while watching out for people and then when your wife is coming you go oh I have to get dressed and stop getting this blowed up. It's an interesting I heard I've heard people do that I don't know well then I don't spend a whole lot of time and there was our plenty talk. We've never gone scannological. I'm glad we've been there.

We're gonna move into today's topic and the question I prepared today is a different kind of question than normal. It's kind of like a yes or no question and if yes we're gonna follow up. So I'm gonna give you some words and I want to know if these words mean anything to you. Diet love pass.

No. In other words it's Russian. Diet love. Diet love.

Diet love pass. That's where the donor party that's right before they went to the mountains they went through the door of pass. Not exactly. Okay so you guys have not these words mean nothing to you.

It excites me quite a bit. You are I mean honestly like the idea of the donor party is there's some similarities. It's close. So follow up questions I was kind of hoping you would be able to be ever gone camping and do you enjoy camping?

Yes and no. Yes you're gone camping and no you don't enjoy this like camping very much. Yes I've done camping and I enjoyed it but I would not do it now because there's no bad. Okay.

I've been going camping a while and you wake up hot and there's like a film on you. I used to love camping when I was younger. We go multiple times a year and we do a bunch of great things and I loved camping. So here's what question and this is kind of a connected to our previous podcast.

What do you fear is the worst thing that can happen while you're camping? So like are there any fears you have about camping or like being at a campsite and that worry time might happen to you? Especially like Ron from your many horror movies over camping. Do you have any fear that something might go wrong or is it just a you don't like it?

I'm so busy being uncomfortable and hating my life when I'm camping that I think please Jason come and stab me in my movies. Please murder me now. I'll put an arrow right next to my body. So God damn hot.

I feel like you're camping at the wrong time because you should be camping at a time when the fire is what's keeping you from being too cold. Oh that's the best I can get exactly. It's not so cold that it's unpleasant to be outside but it's cold enough that a fire makes you feel real good. That sounds pleasant.

That's the right time to be camping. I also hate sleeping on the ground. Yeah. I don't want to blow up an air mattress.

I'm not an RV. You're a glamper. Yeah I would do that. Like it's not really camping because I'm a spoiled asshole.

Okay well I've stayed in a lot of hotels. I like hotels. I know hotels are great. The Plaza hotel is gorgeous.

I wish I could ever afford to stay in a background on something that took place. It's a historical event. Okay so our story involves a camping trip undertaken by 10 individuals during the winter of 1959 and there's gonna be a lot of Russian words today. Right.

And I'm probably gonna butcher 105% of them. No that's off. So these tentative doors during the winter of 1959 in Sverglask Russia. 1959.

That's not ancient. No. 1959 Russia. No then it was the Soviet Union.

A group was formed for a ski trek across the northern Euro mountains. The original group led by Igor Dylov or Dylov, which is consistent of eight men and two women. I've seen a picture of these people. They're like the European athletes.

The guys were pretty in the winter. Russian men are very pretty. Russian women. They looked like they probably fun to hang out with.

Yeah. Like they just didn't get me excited. Right. Okay.

So most of them almost all were students or graduates of the Euro Polytechnic Institute. So this is college that most of them went together. Yeah go hammer and sickle. Absolutely.

The goal of the 14 day skiing hiking expedition was to meet was to reach Mount or Torton. Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

Oh yeah. Speaking of nice bathrooms. Mount O'Torton. Yeah.

There's a rest stop on the way up that mountain. Oh it's fantastic. It's also made of marble. Okay.

The stalls are complete. There's always Charmin. Yeah. The Soviet Union was not to do.

Yeah. They took care of their marble. Yeah. Restops on the.

It was like an onion dome on the top of it. It was very pretty on Mount. It was a mountain. Not an important is a mountain that's named translates in an indigenous dialect to don't go there.

Don't go there. So do you guys like go camping? Yeah. Go around.

I don't know. This sounds like a slasher movie. A slasher movie. Dead by dawn or something like that.

This route that they're going to be taking on their 14 day expedition was estimated as a category three route which is the most difficult. But all members were experienced in long ski tours and out in expedition. So this is not their first. Now we're going to go look later into the group as a whole but I want to give you background on the 10 individuals that were part of this.

Okay. So it's going to be a bit of a list here which I know list can get boring. Are these art types? Are these art types?

Art types like archetypes. Oh my mouth is full of cherry. No. I would say general.

These are cherry. Go on. These 10 individuals all kind of following the same archetype as tough guys. Like they're mostly like.

They're macho. Even the I'll tell you some stories about the individual people. But the first ladies keep up. The ladies are leaving away.

We don't need this from you. The ladies are the toughest ones. The ladies are the toughest ones. We men are useless.

We have big vaginas under snowcoats. Absolutely. Because of us who afford coats. The line was long.

This is 59 Russia, right? Yeah. The lines were like there's no more cheese. That's just what I imagine.

I know I couldn't live without cheese. I had some goo yesterday. It was a good. It was good.

The good was good. The good was good. Okay. It was pretty good.

It was fun. Our first hiker Igor the odd love. The odd love. The main mistake for the pass where this is not a bad love pass.

He is 23 years old at the time of our story. He was the leader of the hiking group. Big mistake. The past in these mountains.

He was a student of a radio engineering at the university. Oh, so what the hell does he know about camping? Or something? Well, I'll get this.

He actually was a very talented hiker. He's also talented. He was an amateur hiker. He designed and a single decident walking.

I hope that you're everyone's decent at walking. I will see what we will say about the little pass. Exactly. What happens there?

The diet love. Diet love. Diet love. Diet love.

Diet love. Diet love. The love pass. Love will pass.

I think that's what it means. It means love will pass. Love will pass. No go there.

Love will pass. I don't know. He's all high on chairs right now. I'm trying to speak Russian.

He actually designed a similar radio during his second year of college that was used during hikes. Other people would use during their hikes. You want to ride a little one? He also designed a small stove that was used by him that he brought with him on the trip.

He didn't invent this stuff. I read that people who knew Igor described him as a thoughtful man who never rushed with his decisions. He courted a woman named Zena who took one of my... Zena the war you're in.

It's spelled differently. It's actually her name isn't actually Zena but it's like that. It's like I was her name. A lot of these people I'm using names for because I was actually three and there's over 10 years.

Three of them were named Yuri. So if they had a nickname I'm probably using that. So Igor. Igor is his name.

Igor is his name. He was one of the actually most experienced athletes in the group. Wow. This is this.

This 23 year old. Igor was. Diet love. Diet love.

The second his love interest. Zena. Komodorova. I love you Zena.

Zena Komodorova. 22 years old. 22 years old. She was a 4-2 student at the university also a radio engineering major.

She was an experienced hiker and it sounds like she was a pretty tough chick because I read a report that during one of her hiking trips not the one of her hiking trips she was bitten by a viper. By a viper by a snake. Despite pain and suffering she refused to lighten her load on William & Col. So she wouldn't even let someone scare her bag.

She got bitten by a viper and didn't even stop or anything. She was not even poisoned in the town. I stabbed my toe and I'm like guys I have to eat my friend to survive. Our third hiker is Yuri Doroshenko.

He had an impulsive personality and was famous at the school's hiking club for having run a giant bear with a geologist hammer while on a camping trip. What? How are these people? I'm telling you these are tough individuals.

But only twice. He actually attacked a bear. Yeah, with a geologist hammer, with a small rock hammer. Yeah, exactly.

Well, rock hammer. It is heavy. But that's what he lived. He lived.

That's the thing. You have been aware, we'll probably not. Not in fun. I mean, some gamers, all you can do.

We might agree to disagree, but I doubt it. So Yuri was once involved in a relationship with Zeno. And he met her parents. He met her parents.

And they met him. Is it the second Yuri? Yeah. No, this is our first Yuri.

He's the only one to call Yuri. But he's dating. He was dating Zeno. And now Igor is dating Zeno.

And Zeno, Igor, and Yuri are all on this trip. He says, these people are so good that even though this way should end it, he's still in great relationship. I think there was a movie with Alec Baldwin and Anthony Hawkins, where they tried doing this. Didn't end up well for one of them.

Thank you for giving it up. Well, there was a bear in that one too. That was beaten with a rock hammer. Andy Dufrein, contacted with a rock hammer.

You combined about six movies. Yeah, well, he created a big man. By David Mamet. So our next hiker is the other female.

Always be hiking. A, B, H, always be hiking. I used to say that. Our next hiker is Ludia Dibinina.

The Bina. Ludia? She's the young Ludia. I've heard about the Ludia as well.

I'm probably going to start with Ludia. She did it one once you got back. And it was like hiker porn. Hiker porn.

Hiker porn. Well, they still wear their boots and heavy socks. Well, they're doing it. They're doing it on the trail.

But they're wearing their boots. It sticks it all. It's great. Lay me down on this side of a mountain repelling.

You're peeling onto the. The really sexy and trust exercise in one, that kind of thing when you're doing hiking, I can't understand. Oh my gosh. I'm no expert on hiking.

Not like you are getting low jobs in the back. Well, I'd be the danger of getting like a sharp rock in your back. That's the appeal. That's the appeal right there.

I'm telling you, I need all the catch up. It's good. Ludia was a third year student at the university as a engineering and economics major. Athletic and strong.

She was also a dedicated outspoken communist. Of course. Oh, so she was one of the happy Soviets. She was active in Stalin still in charge of the 59.

No, no, no. This was a Christian. Where's the Christian? If you say so.

Oh, I care about the. I'm in the psyche. I'll find out for sure. She was.

Ludia was also active in the tourist club. The tourist club was the name of this club. They were all in it like Russian hiking, mountain climbing. It's tourists, club is what it's called.

She liked to sing the pictures. Many of the pictures of this trip were shot by her. Oh, they're photos. They're many, many photos.

During an expedition to the eastern seyan mountains in 1957. They don't look like a princess watch or anything or they just they're like, hey, what's just going to skin and go? They're going conquering this mountain. Do not go.

See, some where 27 hours or K2 or some alive, there's some's going to happen. Let me tell you how awesome Ludia is, though. OK. When she's doing a different expedition in 1957, she was accidentally shot by another hiker who was cleaning his rifle.

And she was just like, ah. She endured the painful injury courageously during the long and painful transmission back. She didn't complain, but sorry for causing her trouble. Because someone shot her.

She's like, guys, I'm going to start this. Now, what idiot doesn't unload his gun before he starts cleaning it. I don't know. It happens more often than gun cleanser.

Just as if how accidental these shooting are. So, but you're getting the agents. Our next one, Alexander Kalevatov. Twenty-years old, a nuclear physics major at the university.

Yes. He and I have lunched. OK. This guy, he was at 24 or 19 to 29.

No, no, no, no. He was in an old folk song and I was doing one of those things where you go and you like read books to him. I was very interesting. He told me all kinds of stories.

I was expecting that something happens to him on this trip. But there's no way that he had lunch with him. Here's the thing. He was like, we don't talk about that in the past.

OK. And I was like, OK, OK. He acted like it was Vietnam or something. Alexander distinguished himself as a good student and moved to Moscow to work in the secret Institute of the Ministry of Media and Machine Building.

Media and Machine Building Department. Secret Institute of the Ministry of Media and Machine Building. Yes. Our media and size are medium in a building.

Oh, they call. I'd still remember of 1, 3, 3, 9, 4. That was what this building is called. But we do not do large machines.

We do not do small machines. Well, medium machine. We are experts. The first rule of the Ministry of Media and Machine Building.

We do not talk about the Ministry of Media and Machine Building. OK, let me stop you right there. OK. Chris Chef was actually in office from 1958 to 1964 as the Chairman of Council of Ministries.

So he was the President at the time of the president day of the– During our dialogue past. During dialogue past. Which has nothing to do with the Donner Party except for cannibalism being part– Do they eat? We'll get there.

We'll get there. Is there a cannibalism? I mean cannibalism. And spiders covered in clowns.

Do they taste differently each of these individuals? Well, the clowns taste funny. Well, the clowns taste funny. Well, the clowns taste funny.

Well, the clowns taste funny. What did we say? No, we're not doing it now. Some alley-zander after looking at the secret Ministry of Media and Machine Building moved to the Research Institute of Inorganic Materials.

Right? That was engaged in producing materials for the growing nuclear industry. That's where I studied it. In 1956 he moved back to Sverd Balkk and joined the others at college.

He was a cautious studious person who enjoyed smoking antique pipes. His friends described him as diligent pedantic and methodical with clear leadership qualities. Whoa, so a little friction between Igor and Yuri number two. Perhaps.

Was that using Yuri number two? That was ... No, that was... Oh, there was...

So next guy, Kolea, Timo Greenyles. Okay, yeah. Sure. 23 years old at the time, Kolea graduated in 1980, so he's a graduate.

But a major in civil engineering. He was the son of a French communist who was executed during the Stalin years. He himself was born in a concentration camp for political prisoners. Holy cow.

So these guys are tough. Yeah. His friends liked him for his energy goods and the humor and generally friendly open character. I think he wrote to Gila Mockingbird.

I'm pretty sure it was him. Harper Lee, but yeah. No, no, no, no, it was about a Russian girl growing up in Alabama. You remember this because you were in it.

In the early 90s. In the early 90s. You were in the story? I was Ivan.

I was Ivan. I was Ivan. Ivan. I was Ivan.

Drole off. Yeah. Ivan. What's his face?

His name in Rocky IV. Oh, uh. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.