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Certainly about delusion. It is about delusion. I decided to go back to something we haven't done for a couple months, which was a lightning round edition of the favorites question. All right.

I'm ready. So now it's not so. When I say lightning round, it's not something I want you to say, answer and not explain. It's not all I got four questions.

It's like, take your time on each of them. We're not quite as in depth as last week's was. The house. Right.

So this is more like an I wish kind of thing. So like if you wish this could have been the case. What is your favorite musical instrument you wish you like had mastered that you could like play. Oh, guitar.

Yeah. I wish I'd learn to play the piano because I heard when you play the piano, you're more adept at other instruments like you have an understanding. I've always wanted to play. I feel like those are the two answers like I should say.

Yeah. Because those are probably the most useful ones, but I always want to be a drummer. Well, that's fair. Or cello.

I like strings. It's like strings a lot. So those are the two instruments you chose are the ones that take the most that are heaviest to lug around. Okay.

You need a van to transport yourself to your next. Yeah. I want to let them on the river. I used to live in that.

Yeah. It's true. That's how we met. I've always wanted to play the U.S.

I'm like, why is this man living in my van? I'm more, more than there. I'm more, I'm more than there. I need to speak these motivations in my life and I'm like, all right, continue, sir.

And then we would bathe in the river. Like, to Jeff, just to bounce off this question, we mastered guitar, congratulations. I get it. Where would you like to play?

Where would I like to play guitar? Yeah. I would like to do with it. I would like to do with it.

Leena Rock Band, of course. Where do you guys want to do? Where do you guys want to play? Is there like a place you would like to play?

I would like to play with it. I would like to play with it. I did. I really enjoyed it.

Right. I wasn't great. I said professionally. I've mastered it.

I've probably still golf. Where would you want to play? Of course, you're like, oh, we just wish I could play. Pebble Beach.

I know it's a standard answer, but I've played a lot of the golfing video games. Of all the courses that I've looked at on these games, Pebble Beach. There's a reason Pebble Beach is one of the most famous courses. Do you prefer the Tiger Woods games or just for the old Golden TRK cabinets?

No, I like the... Those are fun, but I like the Tiger Woods games best. They switched over to Rory and Michael Rory instead of Tiger Woods. That's why.

I'm not sure. It must have happened. It was something. They were missing the charm.

Honestly, they were missing a little bit of the charm. They were just like the Tiger Woods games. It was no big difference. Yeah.

I knew it. That's it. That's it. I have to put it on the front.

I have to think sports. I said there was a wrong question. Right. Fencing.

Yeah, that's a good one. Alright. So that when the boogeyman or Drake come back by the potential. I like sports, so I'm dancing.

I'm with you on that. This is a weird one. Had I not already mastered fencing, I'm dancing. That makes sense.

Volleyball. I love volleyball. I was pretty good at junior high, but my height is a hindrance. Yeah.

I'm actually better at jumping than people would expect. I'm still not quite good enough to make up my lack of height, so I wish I was good enough to make up my lack of height and give my volleyball because I love watching it sport. Your love of volleyball makes sense because you're pacing and white and it is a Pacey white sport. Can you play outdoors?

With Pacey white people. No, that's actually tanned. I wouldn't be. You play the Pacey white sport.

That's a Pacey white sport. I'm sure I'm for you to roll it all. I hate sand. We have Pacey people.

I just want to die red Pacey people. Alright. So what about this one? Car.

You'd like to own and like drive. Oh man. Chevy Volt. Okay.

Why is that? All electric. Any features you need your car to have? Well, I would like my car to talk to my iPhone so that I can play in there.

I like comfort, buckets, I like to be able to, you know, I like the regular stuff. There's nothing missing from my car that I can think of that I wish I had other than not having to plug my phone into a cord to stick into my, right, but I'd like to be able to control it from the steering wheel instead of having to look at it. It's really nice. I can't do that using my, well, I sometimes my phone depends on the USB's cooperating or not.

But I can do train stations and all of my sting was pretty glorious. What you run? I get to go. Oh, okay.

I didn't know if it was taking care of it. Well, you hurt me. Yeah, I do that. You hurt me on the instrument question.

I hurt you, step through your name. That's right. The Nissan Altima, I think, it sounds ridiculous, but I'm like, Jeff, I don't require a lot. I had an efficiency and I was running an ISO car.

Yeah. Yeah, they're comfy. See, I didn't think I was going to be a extravagant one here. I did not expect.

No. Of the three of us, I would be the most extravagant one, but I would like a Ford Mustang. Yeah. Because I love driving with the windows down.

So I love the idea of a convertible. I also want to be the person who drives everywhere. I like the Mustang. I like the Mustang.

I like the new ones. I don't like care. I want to be slate gray because I'm not a black top. Yeah, those are nice.

Every convertible I've sat in is if the roof is down, I can't sit in it because my head's too tall. Well, that's what I said. Usually they're two doors because they're small vehicles. I'm a bigger one.

I used to ride around when I was in college. I used to ride around with a buddy who drove a Fiat. I converted a Fiat. And that was lovely driving this old kind of car with it was the older model and the top down.

And then when we were, you know, when we got to where we were going, he would take a shoe horn and slide me out of the car because those Fiat's painting. He just like loop it up. He had to. All of a little bit.

He had to. It was really home. That was really embarrassing almost. Jeff would say Penny Farthing.

It just really seemed like that would be your kind of beautiful. Penny Farthing. What is a Penny Farthing? Ron, you know what?

I'm not familiar. Oh, we pull this up on the old computer. I see it's a type of bicycle. A bicycle.

I don't want to use my own power. You've seen these before. You probably just didn't know they were called this. Oh, well, I've seen those.

Oh, I love it. I'm sure it'd fall off of that. I might have been getting up on that thing. Huge front of you.

I have a very small back one. What does that call again? Penny Farthing. I learned something today.

That's what I'm here for, man. We're here to educate and for delusions. That's exactly what we're here for. I just make sure you're like your full team punk and having a Penny Farthing bicycle with your goggles and it's got gears on it.

A big top half. Absolutely. Jeff would blow. I can do all that except the Penny Farthing.

I can't do all that except the Penny Farthing. He's going to be civil. He's going to be civil. He's going to be next to you on the next year on the cycle.

But that's where his style where you're more the Penny Farthing. I can't ride things in our cars. I'll have two unicycles and I'll be headling with my feet one and my hands with the other. It'll be so bizarre.

It'll be like a monster. I'm having a round. And I'll be riding a light cycle from Tron. Oh my God.

You'll get their hours before we do. Well, I can't handle things with wheels in our cars. Fair enough. I'll try to get my light.

Alright, final one for our Lightning Rondition 2. So there was a TV show. It's not a very good TV show called The Walking Dead. And there's a character named Ezekiel who shows up at some point.

I don't want to win because I don't care. He has a pet tiger that understands him and they get along and they just have a connection. So if you could have a wild animal as a pet and it wasn't an inconvenience. In any way, what animal would you have as a pet?

I've never thought of this before. I thought it had many times because I love animals. I'm like, oh, I'd love to have this animal but oh my gosh, it'd be so awful. Why do you go first so that we will be dead?

Getting the food and... Okay, well Gorilla. I thought I thought... Oh, okay, that's fair.

I thought they could take herself down. If they understood what I wanted, he or she could like help out around the house. True. But also like me, it's not cool.

And you will. Yeah. And the Gorilla can learn sign language and sign language. They're very territorial.

Yeah, but we get along. It's not a problem. And so if I leave the house, Gorilla's got into control. Did you ever see monkey shines?

It turns out bad. It turns out bad really for the guy who wants the monkey. Yeah, I got it. And the monkey.

Have you ever seen Congo? It turns out great for the guys in the monkey. Well, it turns out for the one monkey. It turns out okay.

Amy turns out fine. All the rest of the monkeys don't... No, they don't. They don't fear well.

Well, they're bad for us. They don't do well. But they're monkeys. They have souls and they have feelings.

Do you feel this way because of your love of Donkey Kong? Absolutely. And I had a bunch of stuffed animal girls on the kid. So let's go out your Congo for a second.

I'm gonna get for one important thing. I'm forgetting not. Oh my God. He's excellent.

It's glorious. You watch everybody else and they're acting. Yeah. Oh, he's acting really well.

And it shows Tim Curry. And it's like he steps out of the movie from the 40s as the Great White Hunter. Oh my gosh. It's a scoundrel.

And he's like, oh yeah. I think that grills are over there. And let's go after them. No, I'm evil.

No, that's Tim Curry Kong. That's him. That's him. That's him.

That's me. Absolutely. He played pretty much any character Tim Curry's played. Well, I've been kicked off of Africa.

That's him. So what pets do you guys ever in the house? Bobby Cather in the house. Oh, but you're asking for the answer to your question.

I'm going to have a pet, Grizzly Bear. I was going to say bear into you said inconvenience. What do you want? It's not a problem.

It's not a problem. It's not a problem. But in this situation, it's not. Like, is he a lot of tiger?

That would be a problem. Right. But magically because of us and how wonderful we are, the only thing along with us is not a problem. Yeah, I'm going to go with Grizzly Bear too.

Paul or Bear? Just a bear. No. God damn it.

I refuse to answer. I've only ever wanted to bear my entire life. Only ever. You guys can have a bear.

Thank you. I'm glad it took that even in my life. I'm glad that you got a car. You've had your hand sandwich.

Bear just like lies down. You're like, I don't know. I'm not a little around you. I'm not a little around you.

You might have been a bear apologist? I'm a bear apologist. You might have been a bear apologist. Oh, that's mine.

You have your chest. No. No. Go to your chest.

I hope if there's a heaven that that's what my heaven is. I'll go up there and the polar bear is waiting. There's bringing some sand on you. Oh, that would be lovely.

It would be like a Coca-Cola polar bear. Maybe it brings you a picnic basket. Sorry. I'm forgetting that.

Look at this. All right, ladies and gentlemen, it's a Jurette's at time. We're transitioning into the topic of the game. Who wins a Jurette's own?

I don't have as many questions written as last time. I think I had 15 questions. Yeah, there was a lot. This time it's a couple of fun, and then we're going to get a topic.

If you guys ever were to say, you'd interrupt for any reason. I suppose we're going to allow it. This is about sepsis. Absolutely.

I've gotten it right. Question one. Is everyone's favorite November holiday? Sepsis.

That's not all of it. Tomorrow. It's tomorrow. Tomorrow is Thanksgiving.

Tomorrow is Monday. I'm trying to say something about it. How silly of me. I'm the guy who always screws that up.

How delusional of me to think this is what I'm going to understand. Tomorrow is Thanksgiving. I had a long tournament. Right now, I understand.

I understand. My days have been, obviously, since Wednesday. Right. Everybody's favorite holiday is Halloween.

Thanks, David. Wait a second. I did say November. We're talking about Thanksgiving.

I did say November. Oh my God. Is this a holiday episode? It is a holiday episode from the guy who hates holidays.

We are. So my question is, what is everyone's favorite holiday? You said? They're in today.

That's not what you said actually. I said Halloween. I said Halloween. I said Thanksgiving is just a moment ago.

There is a veil between 1159 and midnight where Halloween and November is the biggest holiday season in the world. It's not that it's not how that works. I want to point out. I'm talking about subject to time.

My favorite holiday might not be the same as everyone else's. It's Veterans Day. It's Arbor Day. It's Arbor Day.

What is Jared's favorite movie? Columbus Day. Jurassic Park. That's V for Vendetta.

It's Guy Fox Day. I'm going to talk about Guy Fox Day and the gunpowder rebalvers. So question number three was what real-life individuals are the protagonist of that movie based upon? Guy Fox.

So we were going to talk about Guy Fox Day. He was known for the gunpowder rebalvers. Remember, remember, the fifth of November. The gunpowder treason plot.

I know of no reason why the gunpowder treason should ever be forgotten. I can't either. Why would we as Americans celebrate Guy Fox? Let's talk about that.

Okay. We don't. Americans don't celebrate that. But it's a hollip.

The Jaron celebrates it. Everybody who loves me from the denos celebrates it. What I just said, you know, the first stanza from an old English folk first. They did back to the 1800s.

Sometimes I would say 1700s, but yeah. It was kind of reworded along the way several times. They celebrate the foiling of Catholic Guy Fox's attempt to blow up England's house of Parliament, which was then controlled by Protestants. On November the 5th, 1605.

Known variously as Guy Fox Day, gunpowder trees and day, and fireworks night. Yeah. The November 5th celebrations in sometime periods, including the burning of the Pope or Guy Fox in effigy. In my opinion, is one most significant.

I'll be a forgotten holiday on our calendar. All right. I'm a big fan. I can guarantee you.

Were you a fan before you saw the event? Absolutely. No idea. No.

No, that's fair. I had heard of it, but I had no idea what the guy was. Here's a quote from a movie peppered throughout. Yeah.

This one's from Natalie Portmister, Evie Hand. Yeah, you like her. I do like her. But one of the laymen.

I know his name was Guy Fox. And I know in 1605, he attempted to blow up the house of Parliament. But who was he really? What was he like?

We were told to remember the idea. Not the Man. Because a man can fail. He can be caught.

He can be killed and forgotten. But 400 years later, an idea can still change the world. I witnessed firsthand the power of ideas. I've seen people kill and name of them, name of them, and I defend them.

But you cannot kiss an idea. You cannot touch it or hold it. Ideas do not bleed. They do not feel pain.

They do not love. And it's not an idea that I miss. It's a man. A man that has made me remember the 5th of November.

A man that I will never forget. And she is talking about the protagonist in the movie, V. Yeah. Which we'll come back to when we do the movie later.

And I kind of thought we could also frame it in terms of Guy Fox, who he was and what he did. This is a very Jeff-assewed in terms of historical conspiracy. It's basically what this is all about. And then there's explosions.

I thought Ron would do it. Well, let's eat it up with a runtable spoon. Sorry. Yeah, you know, it's work.

Okay. Runtable spoon. Exactly the same as a runtable spoon. Yeah, runtable spoon.

It's a thing. Oh, look it up. Go ahead. Guy Fox was one of several Catholic conspirators.

It all became known as the Gunpowder Plot. While he was not the ringleader himself, Fox became the best known member of the most famous conspiracy in English history. Most of what I have today came from a National Geographic article. It was a great article.

It was captured as an illustrated and countless school books, novels, popular works of history and movies. A tall, bearded figure in boots, dark cloak and dark, wide-brimmed hat. It is his figure that has still burned an effigy on bonfires around England every year on November 5th. You understand the motivations of the man arrested that November?

More than 400 years ago, it is necessary to examine England and Europe very different from today's. Fox and his fellow conspirators attempted to mount a terrorist attack on their own king and government because of religious upheavals occurring half a century before. And we're going to take a glance back into the political and religious climate that led up to that memorable day in 1605. Excellent.

Let me stop here right there. A Rensable Spoon is a sharp edged fork with three broad curved prongs. Does it have a fork? Man, that's the correct.

This spoon is a fork. It's a sharp edge. My brain cannot comprehend this before the ring. Oh, a Miriam Webster is just wrong.

So it's a fork. I like how you're like, hey, listen up, here's my stores. I win. So here's the first definition that pops up under Google when you look at it.

A Rensable Spoon, a fork curved like a spoon with three broad prongs, one of which has sharpened outer edges. So is it longer than a spork in terms of having actual times or a prong? The prongs are a little deeper than what we think of as a spork. What you get is a spork.

It's just a little edge to it. You can't see that. It's a little bit cut inward. An actual Rensable Spoon is quite deep.

Rensable Spoon. And it's pronounced that way. Did you miss it? Rensable Spoon.

Yes, that's a pretty one image of the line. So all our listeners can see what the thing is like. So we can see Rensable Spoon looks like. Look it up folks.

They should be listening next to their laptops while they're driving. Well, we're on finding images. I'll tell you that the political and religious instability unleashed by the Protestant Reformation had resulted in pinning Catholics against Protestants throughout Europe. In England.

Rensable Spoon. A Rensable Spoon. Yeah, so it's got longer forks in its spork. Yes, it was created by Edward Lear who did it as a joke thinking I will make something that has no actual purpose in real life.

Will he know a Rensable Spoon would be super effective for picking up your coleslaw? Except no one has those. You can't. Can't see has them.

No, it's sports. Okay. Because part of that you can't actually use that as a spoon because it's not enough spoon. You know who used a Rensable Spoon?

Run by Fox. Jared? Not factually. No confirmation.

There's a lot of ball drop in being done today. It's not. I mean, I mean, you're doing my best. Are you?

I'm going to say this goddamn show. All right. In England, religious strife resulted in the accession of Elizabeth I in 1558. She ascended to the throne.

The following year, she and her advisors created a religious settlement which consisted of the development of a Protestant national church. It always goes really nicely when church and state know. Yeah, a nation, a Anglican church. A national church is always a super good idea.

Yeah. Yeah. Controls the people. Yeah.

Which was just as um, religiously speaking, it was just as Catholic as Catholic church only now at the queen. Right. At the queen as the head of the church. Right.

Then we had to go the them and the us of switch places. One of the Henry the eighth that got off at the Catholic church. You are. I am.

I am. And then he was like, okay, screw the Catholic church. We're going to make our own version of the Catholic church and call it the Anglican church. And that is now our national church.

Well, a lot of times monarchs may have to disagree with the pope or the Holy Remember or whatever. I can't imagine what. I disagree. So all of a sudden the religious and the valid.

I can't imagine. What would the eight have against Henry the eighth? All the war. I can't imagine.

It's water into the bridge. Yeah. What's done is done. Speaking of London, is this Microsoft?

Yes, it is. Right. Because you know, London, that comes from London. It's an English word.

I had to do for breakfast and I knew you had requested them recently. These are tasty. They are. I apologize.

Back to your Parisian. Parisian. I think they have an inheritance. Paris, England.

Many English Catholics refused to accept the 1559 settlement. They were known as recusants. So there were Catholics who basically refused to follow the church of the state. In this period, it was generally accepted in Europe that all subjects of a state should adhere to its official form of Christianity.

Yes. To achieve this religious uniformity, the Elizabethan regime forbade Catholic. In the form of the Catholic worship, including the pro-ments of the baptisms, marriages and funerals. A practicing Catholic was punishable by law.

Finds, which could be very heavy for habitual offenders, were imposed on those refusing to attend church of England's services. Printing or importing Catholic books became high treason. Yeah, let me stop you right there. Right?

Right? All right. I don't, I mean, obviously I get it. But I find it absurd or galling.

And I'm not Catholic. Oh, he's a goner. I'm not talking about that. That's a promise.

People who feel religiously persecuted gave me the right answer. They're not being persecuted. Gay power and persecute other religions. And it's like, okay, well, we believe so strongly in our religion, but it's the head of our state.

But if you have a different state and you have a different state version of Christianity, you have to believe that if you're part of that state. Well, but what, A, what is the difference? And B, I mean, they're doing this not for religious reasons or because of God in any way. They're doing this because the state is trying to have more control over people's lives to create a uniformity so that this uniformity decreases internal strife.

But in reality, it creates more internal strife. But I try needing to force everybody to believe something that not everybody believes. I wish I could say that the history of Christianity was one of taller. No, no.

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No. No. Catholics priest who entered England were declared traitors as were any who helped them or housed them or hid them Here's a fun thing. All men taking administrative office Remember as a parliament to school teachers had to swear an oath denying the power of the pope and recognizing Elizabeth as head of the church Wow, that's ballsy give me a school teacher.

You had to be like, yeah, okay sure your church is the best church She's a holy figure because she's our I mean there were people who believe that based on scripture that anyone in position of power was appointed by God Right, right. It's really good to know a lot of them still think that way for some Bazaar bizarre bizarre reason I disagree with his charge And then it wasn't well, that's not the president that they like it anyway Yeah elsewhere in constant warfare in Ireland, which was populated by Catholics English statesmen feared Spanish intervention on behalf of England's Catholics while conversely English Catholics look to Spain for armed support And if you were a billion so the Catholics the Protestants were like picking sides drawing around the stand Spain's always looking to fight anyway. They want to write false It didn't have to be religion that they're fighting over because Spain and England were competitors around the globe But I mean seriously, you know, somebody could have been like, do you know what England said about you and Spain's like no, I can't have it Well, you know Bloody Mary, I mean it's Queen before Elizabeth was Catholic It went back and forth between Protestants and Catholics and you know Bloody Mary killed a whole bunch of Protestants Hey, it's like it's my next favorite. It's like what Jared was just about to say English Protestant propaganda spread atrocities committed in the name of Catholicism The English population was constantly reminded of the more than 280 people burned in five years by Elizabeth's Catholic predecessor Mary the first and the 1570 of your the term people bull before I've heard of it I can't write it's a Catholic gets out of that bull.

No, you can't write it So I declared Elizabeth illegitimate and encouraged her subjects to rebel against her or risk of being punished and excommunicated So the Catholics were like she's she's wrong. You need to overthrow her. Don't listen to her. Wow That's going to engender you to your new ruler.

Yeah, right, right shows that like any point in time any ruler is just It goes in By the clothes of the 16th century the Spanish Armada Is fashioned in 1588 by Philip the second of Spain and defeated by Elizabeth was still a fresh memory along with its mission to Reimpose Catholicism in England Religion also dominated the situation on the other side of English channel in France The words of religion to the Catholics against Protestants farther north the Protestant Dutch Republic was embroiled in a bitter conflict with Spain The sack of Antwerp by English or Spanish troops in 1576 provided English Protestants with another example of Catholic cruelty so lots of punching lots of throwing punches But the parmole was the Spanish because they're still going on at this point. No one ever second. No one ever expects the Spanish implication So I always feel like throughout history Britain is like that really loud-mouthed kid in class that nobody can stand and every time he picks a fight against a shit Meed out of him and yet he continues to pick those fights whether it's the Falklands or Holy Wars or whatever except they keep winning those They didn't win the Falklands Yeah, they didn't win us the Spanish Inquisition started in the late 1400s and was this band until 1830s We were the kid that fought back and we won After Elizabeth first death in 1603, so Elizabeth's out the room High that her successor James the first who had ruled Scotland is James the sixth Numbers would be gonna do era of peace the son of Catholic Mary Queen of Scots James was Protestant But English Catholics were hopeful he would be more sympathetic to them Right even Spanish agents expressed doubts about stirring up a Catholic uprising in England now that James had taken a throne International relations took a more placid turn as well at the signing of the Treaty of London in 1604 England agreed to end aid to the Protestant Dutch and Spain agreed to give no military assistance to English Catholics All right, that's the point of everything is being there's I love it all next time I love when two groups that hate each other so vehemently Finally are separated because then peace begins they don't sit on each side Stu-ing hating thinking about what you know what violence they'd like to enact upon the other person you split them up I just love that there's no there are no connections to anything that would pass right now nothing all forgotten water under the bridge These developments helped quiet the minds of some of England's Catholic dissidents English Catholicism was characterized by gentry leadership which often had both sufficient influence and money many were well positioned enough to bear The disadvantages loaded upon them and became church payments conforming publicly to the 1559 religious settlement while privately practicing their religion Sure, do what you asked us to do about on our own right right Some Catholicness and so ever sought to overthrow Protestant rule in England. Oh, no, no King James's adherence to the 15 to down settlement and public continuance of intolerant policies inspired some to take a more active role To place a Catholic mark on the throne one such person was Robert Casey or catecy Let's go Gentry Catholic family from the English and Midlands although less famous than guy box today It was in fact the charismatic and persuasive Casey who organized what later became the gunpowder plot Into it the gunpowder plot Sunday Sunday Sunday the gunpowder plot right there in Westminster Abbey will blow up the whole seat You only need the edge In the early 30s.

Yes, sorry sorry in his early 30s early that's what the words are for So yeah, they're probably right when he conceived the plot keeps me a strong attractive personality of Victorian history declared Victorian history Victorian historian I do Victorian historian A Victorian historian declared he is to have exercised magical influence on all who mixed with you Only extreme spectacular violence within the persecution suffer by Violence always You're violent enough and extremely in your violence. Yeah, it puts all everybody, you know, it's it scares everybody Everybody straight everybody they agree with you and nobody's real I'm not obviously we're issuing hyperbole if you couldn't tell yeah, I cannot teach that to my students Hyperbole not an understanding that violence doesn't solve problem Right because if someone says something against them if they get angry violence is the solution and they can't comprehend it If you were about someone else they're going to be violent back to you like if you win a fight They're gonna be their friends and then you're going to get me like it There's no force like there's no force like how this plays out. It's a vicious circle It's an immediate emotional emotional Like the youth are like perspective. Yeah, anyway the idea of using gunpowder had occurred to kids being 1603 and he began recruiting in 1604 the plan To blow up harlot and King James the first in the hopes that Catholic rule could be restored in the aftermath And who would be this new Catholic ruler?

I should have one picked up. It wasn't going to be The plot's first members belong to the disaffected Catholic gentry 30 something's Thomas winter and John Wright and he's slightly older Thomas Percy Thomas winter travel to Flanders, which was under Spanish rule to seek out Spanish assistance Was not I Been fighting for the Spanish and Flanders other name of Fox Guy Fox was born April 13th 1570 And was educated in York, England his father died when Fox was eight years old after which his mother married or accused of Catholic I want to talk about these school system in York for a minute at that time. It was a really good district It was good. They did a lot of positive things for the people They did fall festivals and stuff like that.

They raised money for United Way of the three of us I'm guessing I'm the only one who's actually been to York. I think I At least one company. Oh, I've had peppermint patties. Oh, yeah, so he's basically expert on York Oh, yes, that's where I get my your knowledge.

Yeah, just like I became a Frenchman for meeting the croissant once I eat that peppermint patty Boom like a whoosh of fresh minty air in my brain Knowledge all knowledge of York and the pudding that comes from it the pudding pudding So foxes stepfather was a recuse a Catholic and they were the Catholics who refused to accept the Protestant government right Fox was described by former Sule friend and Jesuit priest yeah, Oswald testament Oswald testament I had a very long nose Rosie cheeks of hair face. He was odd looking man as Pleasant of approach and cheerful of men are opposed to quarrels and strife loyal to his friends It was a peaceful guy He also claimed that Fox was a man highly skilled in matters of war Whoa, and that was a mixture of piety and professionalism that adhered him to his fellow conspirators So he's peaceful pious and war like he's so bad. He's so bad. He's so bad at war.

You don't even get it He's amazing at war and it's possibly the only man that I've loved That's what he said that's what's the book the author and Tonya Frigier describes Fox as a tall Powerfully built man with thick reddish brown hair move a flowing mustache And a bushy reddish brown beard And then he was a man of action capable of intelligent argument as well as physical endurance strapping somewhat of the surprise of his enemies He will endure you would enjoy it Thomas went to learn to Fox's extensive expertise and explosives I like those three words are fun to say extensive expertise and explosives And committed to join in Robert Keith's kids near I like your plot in May 1604 the duck and Drake in the duck and Drake Duck I was there in 1604 Delicious over hearing their blood delicious. I was impressed. That's it was bat bass bass caught from the tight from the Tains River I think it was bass from the Thames or bass or James the Tams better bass better bass But they're over where they're not an English ball there This is good catfish something for the Dams I don't think it's probably That's your trial great one of the two so in May 1604 this and London the five minutes Kate's be winter right Percy and Fox get and sword oath of loyalty and most important of all secrecy They would destroy the one ring. Yes, cut off cut off thing is open.

We have now blood bronze take the string of water I'm going to eat the ring. Why now they just need some habits now. I need how can we find hobbits at this time of the night? Following their own the plotters left London and returned to their homes the adjournment of Parliament gave them We thought until February 1605 to finalize their plans on June 9th 1604 Percy's patron the Earl of Northumberland my favorite number one sure That was where a lot of was a few serious.

Oh He was a fuselage he loaded airplanes with fuel no Fusillers have a gun or fuselage. Oh, oh, they use the fuselage great. Yeah appointed him the honorable core of gentlemen arms This Percy was appointed this amount in troop of 50 bodyguards of the king this role gave Percy reason to seek a base in London And a small property near the princess chamber owned by Henry Ferris a tenant of John Was chosen so now they've got a base operations near royalty now. How did Percy convinced them that he was Protestant enough to be in the royal guard well I mentioned it was some of them were papers to for all appearances This is pretty everything they needed to do to appease the safe.

Yeah, you can lie once you take a note wait what I Mean I never really can't you guys can't I've been on occasion An entire class that my name was the number seven. Okay, well, that's fun though I got emotional about it. I'm sorry. I'm streetin but then once I told them a couple of them call me seven Totally graduate that's beautiful lying is fun.

So you stay with it asked so Percy's got an in in London and I got house house There's some agents there Dudley Carlton and John hip-as-lea yeah first he's using to kind of like Fox using the pseudonym of check out this gloriously secret name Real man his name is John Johnson. That's the earth. That's a salty name Dickey Dickey Dickey what continue? Dustin did I use that in 39 steps for you at one point?

Yeah Toasted you've killed him the building was occupied by Scottish commissioners appointed by the king to consider his plans for the unification of England and Scotland So the plotters hired Kaitley's lodging in Lambeth on the opposite bank of the Thames Thames Thames in heat of the Thames the Thames from where Tim's be from where their store gunpowder and other supplies could be conveniently Road across each night so they've got each side of the Thames Tim's be from Tim's Thames Thames Thames Thames Thames Thames Thames Times So they can bring it across the Thames each night very good very good Yeah, a mile King James continue with his policies against away say that sense again Let me do it really wild James continue with his policies against the Catholics I'm gonna push through anti-Catholic legislation until today on 7th July 1604 good deal March 25th looking good guys Was the day and which the plotters purchased the lease to the undercroft they had supposedly tunneled near to okay? And this is getting a little speculation, but they've got this building where Percy's lodging and there's this thing called Undercroft Oh, I'm gonna go supposedly not tunneling to as well, okay They put a picture if you read a hayworth over the hole so that the no But ever the Protestants would never expect it was probably yes. Oh, yes, I found it Oh, they can't do that. They have to use the Catholic Bible.

That's why don't we're wrong the NIV God damn it the Palace of Westminster in the early 17th century was a cluster of buildings around legal chambers chapels and halls of the former royal palace That was both housed both Parliament Who's just a moment and the various royal law courts Yes, the old palace was easily accessible merchants and lawyers and others lived and worked in the lodgings shops And that's precinct versus building was a long right angle to the house of lords alongside a passage way called the Parliament Place Which itself led to Parliament's theirs and were attempts Undercroft I feel she canary or common features that actually nothing yet Oh, I'll send it shows up where undercroft's were common features at the time used at House of Aragon materials including foot food I mispronounce the word Food because I was looking at a firewood so I took fire food fire food food and fire food fire food Yeah, fire food Is this what we think of these undercroft's that what we picture like a big pantry essentially? It's only food and firewood. It's on the main floor. Not exactly a basement.

Okay. Have you ever played Skyrim? No, okay? Continue okay.

I know I'm thinking I think I think there are there's underneath there's like there's wood holding the Yeah, you know this undercroft to which Percy had access. Yes on the ground floor directly beneath the first floor House of Lords Okay, so it's like basement below the House of Lords may once have been part of the Palace of the kitchen Unused and filthy its location was ideal for what the group plans to do Have a dance party. Oh, yeah, I knew that's where this was going You can actually they would let just anybody read out the space beneath parliament Wait, wait if our Percy was just appointed as a bodyguard who came up and tell them that's like and the people he's working for not the plotters But what he's working for is regular life or legit Yeah, trustworthy and a lot of look at access these things if they work there and if they work in a point They're taking the oath saying they are loyal right right? Right.

Nobody had betrayed before so there was There's still the most widely thought of treason We're listed up here well, there's a few others, but okay Okay. Okay, this one failed. We're gonna get this one. This one failed.

Argentina tried to take the plot on the island away from England. Well England had no right for it to it. What would have happened if this had been successful? It happened for 200 years.

Yeah, but you know, I don't know. I don't know. It was announced on the 24th of December that a reopening apartment would be delayed. Merry Christmas.

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