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And no matter how many times I wish upon a wishbone, a birthday cake, or a shooting star, I can't make him disappear. Ron Blair. Hello, everyone. I'll never go away.
I'm like that bad. Penny, I always turn it up. I'm like something. I'm like potato salad.
So speaking of always turning up, Ron Blair's turned it up in the podcast today. Just to tell all you sweet decades what this podcast is all about. Turn it up. Turn it out.
This podcast is about learning to play the rubber band. Do you hear that? That's magic. I'm glad you're asking for instant feedback from the decades.
You guys like that? The sweet sound of a rubber band snapping on your fingers. I'm being played. I bet you're at least three people.
I'm surprised you didn't go with the flesh flies that are on the desk. What are they tasting to? This podcast is about eating fudge flies with your friends. Well speaking of fudge flies, let's get to why they're a flood flood.
Flood flies. Today's favorite question is what is your favorite new thing you've done in the past week? Oh, I can't talk about it. Well, that's a good idea.
That's a good idea. I went to the Blair vacation and after the Blair's left, of course. Well, yeah, you don't want to go there. I would go there.
I would go there. I would go there. I would go there. I would go there.
All right. This is how I remember you, sir. We threw you out of here. How dare you come back?
We thought we'd go there. Don't ever come back here to this part. I remember you. I remember you.
And why are you back? They're not likely to forget it. I will say this about Universal Studios the first week of October. Yeah.
It was fantastic. You have no doubt. I stood in lines twice and no longer than 15 minutes. Wow.
Every ride I went on, I walked right on and by the time I walked through those long queues, they were loading me up. There were only two rides that we had to wait a long time for. But most of the time we were on. I didn't wait a long time for nothing.
It's like I've never been through an amusement park where I could just walk onto any ride I wanted at the moment I showed up. Those aren't just rides. Those are magical. They're fantastic.
What are some ones you remember most of them? Well, we don't really do roller coasters in my family because Madelyn don't like them. Madelyn's afraid of them. And I get sick on them.
And these are anti-intense roller coasters outside of the moment. So we did one roller coaster. But because of my body's mask size, I don't fit in it very well. I had to see by myself.
I couldn't close that bar that goes over your belly all the way down to my weight. But as we're going around, I'm having to straighten my arms to hold myself. And this is one of the easy roller coasters. Was it a flight of the Hippogriff?
Was it a cross on the castle? It was a cross from the Hogwarts castle. That's it. That's the flight of the Hippogriff.
That fits the flight of the Hippogriff in the book pretty well. It's really cool. So I'm holding onto this thing and it's shaking me around. But you can't let go because your body would flop all over the place.
And it's like I don't really want to do this experience before. I experience this moving on. Here's the crazy thing about flight of the Hippogriff when the ride ends, somebody is beheaded. That's the gimmick.
That's impressive. But somebody gets bored by the way. I'm going to say this. The ride I enjoy most was Spider-Man.
Fuck you. Because it's 3D. When we're walking by that I said, hey, that's on Ron's list of things he told me to go on. I'm just looking at Matt.
We just looked at your Matt from the park and I went in your 2000s and I recognized almost nothing. The park has completely changed since then. But Spider-Man is still there and it's there for a reason. Absolutely.
I said, okay, so do you want to do this? And I said, yeah, I don't really want to go. I said, let's do this. And so we went.
She went all right. And she loved it. So we're good. And you got Spider-Man on your car.
It's just a fantastic thing. I don't see 3D because I only sat on one eye so the glasses only makes the image not blurred but it's still fantastic. It's wonderful. It's a drop in it too.
It fits the story. And because it's not like the roller coaster where you're being thrown all over the place, you feel like you're dropping because of the visuals coming out your face. But it's fantastic. So I went as over and said, you want to do it again?
And Joe Man said, yeah, we walked out. We walked out. We walked out later and walked back down. We didn't got right back down.
And we're doing this again. Yeah, so we did it a third time. What other note were they ride? Did you ride the mummy?
No. I cannot remember the mummy enough. We did not do Jurassic Park. Oh, that one's so good.
We did, I would have to look at them after telling you everything. Once we did Spiderman, we tried to do all the 3D things. Yeah, the Transformers one was one of them. We did the Transformers one.
We did that twice. That was a lot of fun. I didn't like that one. We did the minions.
That was our last ride. So we were unable to do that. That was awful. Well, it wasn't that great.
And the seats were smaller and instead of being in a car with like four rows of three or four people, you were in this mass studio. Yeah. And so yeah, a whole bunch of these cars. So it wasn't nearly as much fun.
Right. And Joe and Melon did a couple of the water, the Tumlucoons. They went on the... They did the lovely, they did the lovely one.
The lovely one. They did another one. Popeye. Yeah, the bilge.
Something where they got splashed. One of them that they did was one of them where people put a dollar into these things and spray you as they go back. Yeah. It's a good ride to get to the Jurassic Park.
Oh man, it's so good. It's such a good ride. The animatronics are pretty impressive. Yeah.
But you could go to Universal and not ride anything and still enjoy the decor of the park. It's just so hard. Well, our goal was to Harry Potter stuff. Because you know, Madeline's a big fan of Harry Potter.
So the first thing we did, which is why we had the Bud Flies. One of the way, eight one of the chocolate ones. But Madeline has for years wanted to go to Diagon Alley and Harry Potter stuff. So the first thing we did was go to Diagon Alley.
She went into whatever that store is where you get the ones. You can buy one of them. All of the vendors. But in all of the vendors they sell them where you can go to these places throughout the park and do magic tricks.
So she wanted one of those ones. We spent a long time in there with her, you know, fighting the show. Did you see the show? We did see the show.
And then we spent some time walking around in her, finding all the places where she could do the magic tricks and going into a number of the stores. It's a fan. And again, it wasn't crowded. So we could walk in.
It was this fantastic experience. And there were shows going on around while we were doing that. But they got Harry Potter and both their parks. So we did that and then we got on the Hogwarts Express.
We rolled that in. Which was fantastic. We didn't have to wait to get on this train. We just got on the train.
And it blew my mind that the window wasn't a real window. It was the screens with this story going on. The theaters are coming out. And you have these shadows with the Weasley and Ron and talking on.
You see them passing your door. And we wrote it both ways of course. So we, because the different shows were coming out. And once you're in Diagon Alley or once you're in Hogwarts, you're completely absorbed into that wall.
It's like you skip it. So you have, you love it. So you had recommended that. That specific restaurant.
We didn't go to that one. It's meant to eat it. The three taverns or the three broomsticks. Three broomsticks.
Three broomsticks. Yeah. What was it? The roomsticks?
No. Well, I had a turkey leg from three broomsticks. Yes. We went to Leaky Colter and died on our way.
We were in the other program. Yeah. Which was also delicious for me. I had my frozen butter beer.
Oh, so good. It's strange though. It's weird, but it's so good. It's a good.
It's a pretty much green soda. And then more than green soda. Oh yeah. There's more in it than that.
But and and Madeline tried to shoot him like that. She got the pumpkin juice. Pumpkin juice. That's my favorite.
I love pumpkin juice. I like the pumpkin juice. It's like all the cider. It's so good.
I'm so excited. Oh, it was. I loved it. So yeah, that was fantastic.
Universal is the best time ever. And so while I was there, you know, I posted pictures on Facebook and then Aaron texted me. Because they were there. There's been but we weren't able to meet up because they they were not stated.
They were not we're not we're not we're going to have you know, we were leaving at five and they were right at four o'clock. They were doing the the city walks. Yeah, they're going to go to the Halloween. We didn't have tickets for the Halloween.
So because I want to separate ticket. It's a separate ticket and what they're doing because you you would I assume it was a different area. But what they're doing is they closed down one of the they closed down one of the parks. The first one we went into the.
I was the adventure. Universal studios and they put up the Halloween haunted stuff in there because we saw all these people waiting to get in there and they were putting it they were closing off alleys before because we had to leave it. That's why we left it fine because they're going to get it. But so they were setting up spooky things in there for opening up in there.
Now they may have a separate spot specifically for Halloween or the Halloween thing, but this was also going. But I think universal studios is also part of the thing. So but we didn't have tickets for that because we had we had double tickets so we could go to Universal studios and islands and adventure and we did them the same days and we could ride the train and we really didn't want to do two days. But you could do today.
There's plenty of stuff you could do to do to the week. So we did a lot. But we had a lot of fun because we didn't stand in line and you could do everything you really wanted to. If we were to go back on the second day it would have been great because we would have known more of the things we wanted to do.
Because when you forget that you're not sure exactly what you want to do or what all these things are and you're walking all over the place. And so it's instead of this being this leisurely okay well what's right here that we want to do is like well what do we think we want to find on this map and get to do and then eventually run out of time. Yeah. I am interesting with myself.
I mean you're in town. It's the first villain and a lot of actors don't get that privilege and he's a great villain. It opens this Friday night at the pack at 7pm and we have Saturday at 4pm as well. You're a good show.
It's a fun show. So I've been doing practice after school for that. And then Friday night I had my first night in Barnstown. The reason I voiced the week right now is because I'm doing Shadows of Federal Hill which is a haunted tour of my old Kentucky home.
And I'm playing John Rowan Jr. who was one of the owners of the house's father. I'm playing either. He actually fell out of a window to his death.
He was defenestrated. By himself. He fell asleep in the window. Picking care is the story.
Did it hit the way? No. He was in the crib. He was sitting in the window with the baby.
I guess he'd see the fell out of a fell asleep or something. That's a good dad. He got into his own. He had ten children with his wife.
Well he had ten children with his baby. The baby he was with at the time was sick and his wife had been with him for several days and she was resting so he was sitting there in the window. So in my room and they come in and they just got in through my wife's room which is Kit. Oh.
Kit's in my wife. And though they finish in her room and she is insane. Like she's crying and wailing it. She tells the story of my death as well.
And then they get to me and I don't start with that. I'm just greeting them and I talk a little bit about what people have reported to see at the house. It's kind of like here and I switch to what happened to me and my perspective of it. And I start to get a little...
I start out and I'm trying to be kind of friendly and jokey and I'm feeling a little bit creepy on selling a little bit. And then as I get into my own death I start to ramp it up and build and build and build and build until I scream. Why? My not used to screaming.
So my voice isn't taken to my house to sing too. When they come in my room I'm singing. Oh. And so by the end of the night it's not that the singing sounds bad.
I'm having to push a little bit more than anything to make it happen because goodness. I want you to go and you fill out the window with a chainsaw and then blow up chainsaw. No, no, no, no, no, no. I love it.
There are hayrides and things. I can hear them from my room. I dig that stuff. But there's some real talent on this tour.
Some really good people. Holly Knoll is involved in it. Oh, she's so good. She did the ghost walk years ago and that was one of my favorite stories.
I don't know what's wrong. But I don't know what's wrong. I don't know what's wrong. It's not the most interesting story as far as ghostliness goes.
But Holly really sold it. I didn't... The people are pretty quiet and respectful. I've really gotten a lot of feedback from what people think.
The first night, Friday was the first night I did this. I'm in my room and they walk in. I'm not looking at them. I'm looking out the window.
Singing. When I finished the song I do a slow head turn to them. There was a girl in there and she's like, oh, oh, oh. I just tried.
I tried to show and cry. Her friend was with her maybe a parent. I couldn't quite know because it's very dark. I'm sorry, we have an emergency.
I tried to stay in character and point to the door and say, no, no, no, no. Right. Because they don't come in the door. They go out.
She laughed. I'm like, I feel pretty good. I mean, it kind of made me feel bad. There was one group that yesterday, Saturday when we did this.
When I screamed, they went, oh, Jesus. It's like, it's not going to come out of nowhere. It's pretty fun. I've never really done anything like this before.
It's just, you know, it's a performance, but very different kind of character. I usually play creepy. I've got to check this out. Creepy's fun.
Yeah. Oh, it's great. I'll play creepy. Yeah, we need to go.
We need to come and see you. We've got, so we're open next Friday and Saturday. I'm going to miss next Friday for you in town. Right.
And then the final, I forget the final weekend in the before Halloween thing. It's like the 27th. So we got the 20th and the 21st and then the 19th and the 20th, I should have said Friday and then the 26th, 27th and 28th Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Sunday, that final weekend in October. We'll try to come check it out.
We have seven to 10, I think. I think it's on the 2rd. We have to do Christmas Carol rehearsals begin. All right, absolutely.
So we've got to do that on the 26th, 27th. That was probably a hoot, too. Yeah, I was looking at the music in the sound effects this week now. Is it the classic Victorian kind of style?
No. No? Well, the music is, a lot of it is hymnals, hymnals from that, or Christmas hymns from that period that he's used for the music. Right.
It's all good. It's going to be really cool, but most of the special effects aren't going to be recorded. I haven't watched. A lot of them are live.
All of these participation. So it's going to be a blend of special effects from Foley artists on stage as well as the recorded ones as well as the recorded music, all mixing on top of it along with the live. Well, I believe our buddy Jake is the Foley master on this one. He calls for like three of them in the script.
Yeah, this is his third go as Foley artist. Really played one in Annie. Oh, okay. But he did special effects on there.
He did Foley effects on. In Annie. Yeah. Special effects on the next level.
Yeah. That was his performance in that was amazing. It's so funny. That wasn't even a role.
Nope. And he made it into a role and he killed it. Pretty great. Yeah.
Well, you're running the signing stuff in the week. I know you've got some stuff you're looking forward to with any theater. Oh, fuck. No, I've got nothing.
Okay. I've got nothing over the week. Okay. I'm here.
I'm just here. I'm surviving. I'm rolling. We do have some exciting podcast news though.
Yeah. I forgot to go ahead. It's currently in the middle. It's where the devil is.
You know, I actually noticed all the curls kind of curling out here. When I walk around in my face. I love it. As I was walking in I went, oh, I forgot to brush my hair.
Run over the face. I had to make him fun. I was making fun of it. No, he was making fun of it.
No, I was making baby face and stuff like that. That was a good thing. I was admiring his face. Completely clean.
That's it. Babyface Eaton. Babyface Eaton. Oh, babyface Eaton.
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like reading babyface. That's what I'm talking about. We don't know. What are our usual experiences.
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And hopefully some other places as well, and that's not everyone has access to iTunes, but not an Apple product you might have access, but we're looking to get other sites as well. Yeah. Things are looking up a lot more. Exciting news, folks.
It only took us to our 68th episode to the end. Speaking of all three, speaking of things and looking up, it's a Jeff, so Jeff, it's looking so... It's all yours. It's looking so far out.
It's all mine. It's all mine. Are we going back in time? Well, we're not going back in time.
Okay, for the last week, open session. Are we going to talk about what happened last week? Because that was a thing. Good night, everybody.
That was the favorite session. That was the favorite session. That was the first thing we just did. I don't know.
I can't keep up. So, no, my first question, I've got a couple questions before I get into my thing. Have you ever... Twice.
Oh, yeah, the Tuesday. Have you ever been out in the community or in a city, someplace you've been, and you saw a couple people do something that made you think, I wonder if there's spies? Yeah, but... Yes.
Yes, I have. It's ridiculous. No, I have a... Yes.
Well, here's why I'm asking that question. When I lived in Boston, I used to take the subway and then the bus to work. Yeah. One day I was riding on the bus, and I'm on the bus for a good half hour longer.
Yeah. And I'm just sitting in my seat. And there's a woman sitting in one of the seats, and she has a package in her lap. And there's a...
And, you know, there's nothing to think about. I'm just noting to people. So, once up, the guy sitting next to her gets off, and a guy who had been standing up holding onto the one of the bars, sat down next to her, didn't say word, didn't make eye contact. As we're driving to the next stop, she takes the package, that's what's sitting in her lap, places it on his lap, gets up, and gets off the bus at the next stop.
So, it's a dead drop. Okay, so, had I seen that, I may change my mind about that. And so, then he rides for a couple more stops. And then he gets off with the bus.
With the package that was in his hand. I don't know what the package was. It was kind of round shaped and wrapped in round paper, and I'm thinking to myself, huh. It's a really polite, lovely thing to be like, hey man, it's a great package you got there.
Oh, yeah. I think you just say that to a guy. Hey pal, what you got? What's in the package?
I was making a package joke. Oh, you were doing the package joke. I got it right in the low ground. I didn't, and that's weird.
So, you've never seen anything like that? Not to my knowledge. I'm pretty sure I remember if I had seen it somewhere. But that sounds so nice.
Now, I will say this, there is a rumor going around me ... I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm pretty sure I remember if I had seen something where I was like, oh there's ...
But that sounds nice. Now I will say this, there is a rumor going around me. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that.
I'm not going to do that. I have a drug kingdom. I can see that. I can see that.
You're a drug king? I think it's people like breaking bad, not coming back, but like a science teacher is too nice. Okay, I thought I would be playing some great game. If you share your games with Grubgo T, then you're probably going to be a little bit more than the Grubgo T.
Yeah, I'm not that. I'm not by the way. Now that your boss listens to the fucking game, it's all ungrateful. Jared is not a problem leader.
Alright, so we're going to be talking about spy crafts and spies during the Cold War. Okay, oh yeah. Alright, so let's talk about spy business. So most of the information that we're going to talk about comes from this book that I've read called The Billion Dollar Spy by David E.
Hoffman. And it's called The Billion Dollar Spy because the spy we're going to talk about actually still Soviet secret's worth over $2 billion. Is he a double agent? No.
No, he's a triple agent. Oh yes. He was a scientist. He was a scientist.
He was a scientist. So, um, I was a science spy. You are a science spy. I always wanted to be in the corporate ass like Dennis Nedry.
Well, yeah, but Dennis Nedry and his money. He's got a lot of sources. That's true. And they will spin on your face and bring your eyes out.
I didn't actually think I can actually do that, but the price is okay. If you had ridden Jeff, the Jurassic Park ride, one of the guests on the boat gets blinded by the lopper's ship. Jared, it took several weeks for him to recover. I see that.
It's poisonous. Jared still can't see. Who said that? I got second.
That's all. All right. So my next question now that I've said what we're going to be talking about is now that I've said too much. Yeah.
Ron Gleyo, man who knew too. How easy? Easy. If you were a Soviet scientist in the late 1970s and you wanted to betray your country, how to the CIA or to the Americans?
How would you go about doing that or how easy do you think it would be? I don't think it would be easy at all. You're already working for them. You have to be really convincing, like, I'm going to head over there and I'm going to get all the stuff for you guys.
I would say anybody that you're already working, you're already a Soviet scientist. You are a Russian. You're in Moscow. You have no access to traveling because you have access to top secret stuff.
There's no way out. So you're not going to be leaving the country to do that. So how would you go? I would be talking to the CIA covertly.
You're talking about how would you get in contact with the CIA. The CIA is already there. They're already in Moscow. They're writing buses.
And after I made my CIA contact, I'm sorry, obviously I know who the CIA is. Because they're not very good. I would convince them to kidnap me. Oh, that's a good idea.
What if they didn't want to? What if they didn't like you? That's probably what they would have. They'd be like, no, sorry.
They'd get me to dump me back out of the back of the media. They'd always stop quoting psych. What would your method be, Ron? I don't see an easy way out for this guy.
Well, he's not trying to get out. He's trying to get out. He's trying to get you out. How do you do that from Moscow when things were locked down as they were in the late South?
Well, now you're getting close to the problem. So this guy named Adolf Tokichev. Well, there's a good start right there. Yeah.
He trusts everybody named Adolf. Yeah, that's always worked out really nicely. He worked in the Ministry of Science in the Soviet Union. He worked in this place where they were designing advanced radars for their aircraft and for their space design and military secrets.
And he had a hankering to betray his country. That is what we're talking about. He had a deep hankering. Oh, it's a deep hankering.
Oh, God. To betray his country. I got a deep hankering right now. And so I'm just going to say that.
Yeah, right. Now, he wasn't doing that because he wanted lots of money, although he wanted lots of money. Well, sure. He did it because he wanted to do it because he hated the KGB and the Soviet system.
I would betray Russia for a bunch of money. I would betray Russia for a bunch of money. Oh, I'd especially do it right now. So, but so he and he lived a block away from the U.S.
Embassy. Well, now we're getting somewhere, aren't we? He lived a block away. So, oh no.
You're going to block that block. That's called it. Well, actually every morning he got up and went for a dog at 5 a.m. in the morning and ran around the embassy.
And he's lying because no one's awake then. Like he's going to block right in. Right. No, he couldn't because the KGB was watching the embassy at all times.
So the Russians, they go jogging at 5 a.m. They go looking for radioactive monsters in the dialogue pass. That's not like Russian special forces like their Navy SEALs. I don't know.
I've heard of them, but I don't know if they were around here. Well, even if they get into the embassy, you had to go past the militia, which was standing guard. Oh, we're in the door. Well, we're in Moscow.
But anyway, so on January 12, 1977. One of the, actually the head of the CIA office at the Moscow embassy, he was filling up his car at a gas station. There's only certain gas stations that embassy people were allowed to fill up their cars at. Right.
That makes sense. So while he was finishing filling up his gas tank, a Russian comes up to him and says, and let me get the quote of what was spoken. Hey, man. He says, so as, so the embassy, the CIA, his name was Fulton.
So the CIA was filling up a Russian company. Yes. And so the man, he spoke English and he said, are you an American? I would like to talk with you.
And so the CIA agents response was, oh, it would be difficult. Right. So the, so the, so the, so the switch, this Russian enemy said, excuse me, he leaned into the car and put a folded piece of paper on the seat and then he walked away. And the American, when the American opened it up, it was just a little finger.
This is the fact that America, well, the thing is he couldn't open it up until he got into the secure blank. And so it basically, it was a note that was folded up inside of a blank piece of paper, then that was hit closed. So the, you know, so they opened it up and they don't know if this guy's real or not, whether he's a Soviet KGB officer trying to trap him or not. Shit.
Got me. The note says nothing about who the guy is that left the note. Yeah. But he, and it gives the CIA a couple of ways to contact him and the CIA says, well, we're not contacting this person.
We don't know what the heck this is. Right. So reverse tap. You call it your phones are tapped.
That's what I always tell you to do. So I think the note is one of those flower things where you're like, yeah, that's what I leave the people's cars and say, because of paper, it's so that I can reverse tap their phones. So, so, but don't get to have, he really wants to be trained. He doesn't, he doesn't, he doesn't.
He's got a deep hand. He's got a deep hand. He's got a deep hand. He's working for a player of the life.
Why is this guy's old? I'll tell you why he's so pissed. I'll get to that. That's why.
So between February, 1977 and May 1977, he tries three more times to contact the American and he. Honestly, that's risky. It's risky. It's risky.
So watch me all the time. Yeah. The ones is risky now, but constantly taking contact. Yeah.
Yeah. You can identify the American cars, the other cars, because the American cars have a specific license plate. They have a D on their license plate. And they have a special plate.
And they have a special plate. So, so he, so he had identified the license plate of the first, of that same car. So one time when that car drove out of the other seat and so we stopped at a light, he walked up the window, knocked on the window. The guy rolled down the window.
And he threw a note in and walked away. That is so ballsy. Just right there in the open. And then again, there's an anonymity to being out in the open like that.
People don't expect. He's also watching everything or anything. Right. He's not sticking around.
Right. So he does things like that for, you know, over this period of time, he does that things like that three times trying to get the CIA to contact him. Right. And the same thing.
It could be a trap. It could be a trap. It could be a bay. Plus at this, at this point in time, the CIA had been running a couple of agents that, and suddenly those agents had been caught.
And the CIA people had been captured and then expelled from the country. So they were, they were lucky. They were upset. Well, they were, well, there's CIA, the people working for them.
The handlers had diplomatic immunity. So they were expelled. But they couldn't be beaten or anything like that because they had diplomatic immunity. So people that were agents or spies, they were shot.
One of them was captured and the CIA had given him what they call an L pill, which is a poison pill. Right. And he kept it in his pen. And so he asked the KGB to let him write a confession when they picked him up.
So they gave him his pen and he bit down on the pen and he died immediately. That's all he has to do. So they were wary about anything and they were kind of standing down at this point where a total job is trying to be trite-country. Right.
That's pretty good. He's got a bad handker. He's got a bad handker. He's got a bad handkerker.
So deep. Great. So we're the next year now. It's been what?
January to March? Is it year or two months? Yeah. So over these 12 months, this is the fifth time he's trying to contact the CIA.
Every time he's trying to find the car he has to listen for the Dixie or... Oh, there he is. Oh, there he is. That is the American.
But by this time, his original contact to the US. So now he's having to find a new guy. A new guy. He doesn't know that he's left but he knows that this guy.
He doesn't say anything. He's not at the gas station anymore. So this time, he, the note that he passes to them, identifies himself a little bit. He says what his name is and where he works, which is risky to him.
But the CIA needs to know that before they... Before they'll trust him. Before they'll trust him. Because they have no reason to trust him just because some guy trying to pass.
They don't know whether he has anything they want. Right. Although it would be unusual for a cagey. The officer to keep.
Knock knock. That's true. But he doesn't even know. Hey guys.
So... Needle. Five dollars. So finally, after they get his note, they still aren't sure they trust him.
Yeah. But they're willing to take the next step to contact him. Okay. So, you know, he has done this like five, six times he's tried to get in touch with the CIA.
And it's like... He's a huge thing here. Yeah. He doesn't like every few months or so.
But they... He gave him his telephone number. Yeah. I'm not sure.