Thomas Pynchon's Shadow Ticket: "They're out to destroy Cheese"

Episode 21. Intro by Sampson Hollander. This episode is an extended conversation about Thomas Pynchon's brand new novel Shadow Ticket, featuring special guests Ben Lobel and Sean Fahey! 11 minutes 10 seconds, the opening quote is introduced. 15 minutes 16 seconds page 1 is talked about. 18 minutes 26 seconds, Sean says John Turturro reads the audiobook for Philip Roth's novel Sabbath's Theater. Context of how Ben read the book at 19 minutes 32 seconds. 20 minutes 22 seconds in Ben explains the context of how the line from The Black Cat comes up in that movie. 22 minutes 49 seconds Zach describes how one of April's songs sets the mood. 24 minutes 31 seconds "he loves doing scenes where you go into like a bar." 27 minutes 6 seconds recurring characters from Pynchon novels. 28 minutes 31 seconds the rogue submarine in Lake Michigan. 29 minutes 25 seconds Sean says the scene Hicks says goodbye to April in the train station is one of his favorite scenes. 30 minutes 4 seconds Lew Basnight. 35 minutes 26 seconds Shadow Ticket's anger towards fascism. 39 minutes 55 seconds "Jonathan Franzen is a must read." 40 minutes 57 seconds "the 90's were packed." 42 minutes 3 seconds Pynchon stylistic overlap with Coen brothers, and technology in Pynchon is talked about. 48 minutes 17 seconds artist who make shorter works later in their career often times had already made epics earlier on in life. 50 minutes 20 seconds comparisons to Bleeding Edge are made. 54 minutes 38 seconds William Gass and his ideas are brought up. "Fascism of the heart." 56 minutes 59 seconds "you saved me so now I owe you my life" line from Inherent Vice appears in Shadow Ticket. 57 minutes 33 seconds "getting to this whole cheese thing." 1 hour 2 minutes 7 seconds "Cheese Fraud" quote. 1 hour 5 minutes 52 seconds "Do you think that Pynchon is playing the new Simpsons Fortnite that's dropping right now?" 1 hour 7 minutes 25 seconds "No I can't do it, Homer is my hero." 1 hour 10 minutes 1 second, how Hicks gets to Europe. 1 hour 14 minutes 53 seconds "Wait did we even talk about the elves?" 1 hour 18 minutes 21 seconds William Gass hated Pynchon, but was incorrect about his criticism. 1 hour 21 minutes 11 seconds Gass on Gertrude Stein. 1 hour 23 minutes 31 seconds on William Gass novel The Tunnel. 1 hour 27 minutes 9 seconds Zach on William Gaddis. 1 hour 34 minutes 51 seconds will Shadow Ticket get new readers into Pynchon? 1 hour 36 minutes 32 seconds Porfirio del Vasto appears. 1 hour 38 minutes 36 seconds Jules Verne type imagery in novels set before WWI and WW2. 1 hour 40 minutes 41 seconds Dziga Vertov appearance. 1 hour 44 minutes 20 seconds on the Al Capone of Cheese. 1 hour 49 minutes 22 seconds Zach debates Sean and Ben over if a sex scene occurs. 1 hour 50 minutes 49 seconds quotes from pages 203 and 204. 2 hours 2 minutes 8 seconds Ben's slutty Halloween costume. 2 hours 4 minutes 56 seconds Daphne's scene with Bruno. 2 hours 6 minutes 33 seconds page 224 referenced. 2 hours 9 minutes 50 seconds characters who appeared in second half. 2 hours 11 minutes 25 seconds Zach completely misses a massive aspect of the ending. 2 hours 14 minutes 26 seconds Zach explains an old teacher's theory about Gravity's Rainbow. 2 hours 16 minutes 6 second Hicks and Terike scene. 2 hours 17 minutes 20 seconds Sean brings receipts on massive spoiler alert. 2 hours 26 minutes 9 seconds Zach reads one of his favorite passages from page 268. 2 hours 34 minutes 27 seconds ending of book is discussed.