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Usually, it's a little different from a day that will live in Infamy, which was a speech that Franklin Roosevelt gave. On Twitter, he's using it pretty much to conduct whatever he's doing. And Congress sort of is sitting on their hands and you're buying, not knowing what to do. So what do you think about this guy?
I know you don't like to wait into politics, but this is the story of the week, essentially. I got a lot here. I think there's a lot around strategy. Let's just work backwards from announcing he's on Twitter.
He was going to take 50 to cultural sites. That is a war crime. And Robert McNamara, the Secretary of Defense for the Vietnam Years, was actually a brilliant guy, said he can't defeat an enemy without really empathizing with him. So let's try to empathize a little bit with the Iranians, whether you think the war is justified or the conflict or what could break into a war.
Just by 1952, the CIA orchestrates the coup and they overthrow a democratically elected leader there and we install our guy who's corrupt. So the Iranians' bottom line just don't like us much. And if we were to announce via Twitter, or better yet, if the Iranians were to announce via Twitter, okay, for the next 90 days, we're going to execute a cyber attack or an act of military intervention or terrorism on a public university, an amusement park, Monticello, and a tech campus. How would we react to that?
There is nobody at home with a whiteboard and a pen going on a risk-adjusted basis. What happens with these decisions and who garners or seeds advantage? These strategically are just a stupid decision. Do you know who you sound like today?
Tucker Carlson. Talkers right on this issue. 100%. Who's benefiting here?
Let's get back to the Trump thing. Using the platforms again to govern is really fascinating. I don't know what to say about it. I don't know if you should take them off Twitter or not.
What do you do? What do you do? Nothing. I don't know what they can do.
Nothing. What do you do? You don't take them off. It doesn't say you can't do that, right?
He specializes. It doesn't say you can't. And so I don't know what you do. A lot of people are saying he's threatening violence.
He's threatening this. And of course he is. But what do you do? I think the study did about the cultural sites is just ridiculous because he's actually committing crimes in front of people, which is his kind of MO.
Years from now it will be used in court, I suppose, depending on what happens. But I think one of the things that is disturbing is that he's governing by it. And he's been doing it since he did the Commerce Department thing. He did things like General People in the military.
And so he's using Twitter as his governing vehicle as he's used it for his campaign vehicle. It's the same thing. I think that's really fascinating. I don't know what to do.
What would you do if you reject or see? I don't. The bottom line is they're in an impossible situation. I agree with you.
I don't think they can do anything. But I apologize to General Strategy here. But look at what they've done here. I like General Scott.
With the JCPOA, with the Iranian nuclear deal, the Europeans and the Americans had some leverage over the U.S. and we were starting to talk again. And it felt like both sides were making body language that they wanted to have and greater diplomacy. And all of a sudden, with that greater diplomacy, and some sympathy towards the West, we had a younger generation of Iranians.
I grew up in LA. So my best friends, I know this. When people said the Iranian culture is a super impressive culture. The Iranians I know are more American than almost any immigrants I know.
They value education. They like to make money. They're industrious. They're smart.
They have incredible respect for culture. This is an impressive culture and an impressive people. And you had a young cohort that was starting to protest in the streets. They didn't like the conservative hardliners.
And what have we done? We have handed a gift to the conservative hardliners. Everyone is now rallying around them. And we had given them license to attack a nation that is run by a guy who is under impeachment for high crimes and misdemeanors by one of the branches of government, has rules of population, rules of populace, presides of our populace that is not going to go into the Middle East a third time.
So we are just flaccid. We are running up to these guys, forcing them to respond. We have special ops posts and bases all over the Middle East that are vulnerable now. They could fire rockets into Israel.
They could mess with the Straits of Hormuz. They could cyber attack medical facilities in the US. We have so many vulnerabilities right now. I think cyber security is going to be the real issue.
They've already started. And I think Iran has been a big player. We focus a lot on the Russians, but Iran has been a big player in cyber attacks. And I think that's definitely going to be something I spent time explaining to my kid.
He was like, this guy was terrible. The general they killed. And it's a terrorist. It was 100% a killer and a terrorist.
But it plays right into their hands. Which one do you want to pick to kill of these terrible people running Iran? But you're right. It's just no strategy.
Why would you think there was any strategy? It's totally impulsive. I think the best story I think of all of them. Let's get to other topics.
The time story about how the government, the people from the Defense Department gave him 10 options or whatever, how many options they give the President. Obama and George Bush had passed on this option. They always put it on there. Here's the crazy option.
Number 10. He goes right to the crazy option. What do they do? They shouldn't put it on there.
They shouldn't give him the idea to do it. That's what's amazing. Everyone in the Defense Department off the record is telling the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, and Washington Post. This is crazy.
The cultural sites. This is crazy having attacked him. But they did it anyway. And then they don't talk on the record.
That's my. I'm like, is someone going to speak up on the record that this is insanity? Of course they're not. Yeah.
There's so much that's really frightening here because greatness is in the agency of others. There is a wisdom of crowds. And he is clearly not listening to even second-order security analysts or analysts who say analysts who might say, you know what? Somebody in the room raised their hand and said, okay, there is a very moral, a legal and strategic justification for taking out Suleman.
He was the entity, the strategist behind a lot of proxy attacks that killed Americans. I get it. I'm glad he's dead. They should have done it in Baghdad.
And, you know, Dick Cheney and all they should when they go back to Iraq, they would always start their defense or prime minister, Tony Blair with well. I think the world is better. I'm saying, no, he's not. Bring him back.
An awful man. Absolutely. I don't believe I have an in hell but would serve time in hell, no doubt. We are worse off because he's dead.
And with Suleman killed in Baghdad, we are worse off. And the most frightening thing here is he is clearly not listening to anybody. I know people at the NSA, I know people at the CIA, they are way too smart to have recommended this course of action. So we have a rogue president without the support.
He goes to Lindsey Graham. What does that mean? It doesn't inform democratic senators. Regardless of political bias.
needs money to fight the war that he might have catalyzed, he's not going to get it. So he's every day, he speaks louder and cuts his dick in half. Really interesting. It's really interesting.
Especially the back of the impeachment hearings that are coming back this week, that's going to obviously take attention. And Nancy Pelosi still hasn't delivered the article's impeachment to the Senate yet. So, and just right now, as I was coming in, apparently John Bolton is willing to testify that he's subpoenaed, which is not going to be, which was interesting. And this whole thing is like the wheels are coming off the bus.
But we'll see where it goes. I hate to move on to something so ridiculous, but the Golden Globes, which was fascinating. Nice, actually. It was fascinating that it didn't cover, it didn't talk a lot about Trump.
The whole time, usually he's been the topic of Hollywood's ire, but a bit, but actually the tech companies cut and whacked at those. Did you see the opening note? Did you see Ricky Dervais opening? Yes.
About Apple, which one? Well, he just said that he's had a streaming service. He didn't talk about Trump. The reason he didn't talk about Trump is he summarized it perfectly.
He said, okay, if ISIS started a streaming video platform, you had their agent call them. So let's do us all favor. If you get on the stage, you get a word regarding politics, just shut the fuck up and get off the stage. None of you have the most authority, much less education or the domain expertise to begin using this platform as it means of talking about politics, as we, of course, talk about politics on a tech podcast.
Anyways, it was, I watched it, what was interesting for me about watching the Golden Globes was I started watching a lot of it. These would be Twitter. I didn't have the patience to get through the program. So I was watching a lot of the clips and I wonder if Twitter is starting to do to TV with Facebook and Google have done a newspaper and print, but it was, I thought, I thought it was going on.
Yeah, it's a new delivery service. It's such a successful news delivery service. I think. Yeah, it really is.
Did you watch the Golden Globes? I didn't. I watched it on Twitter. Exactly.
I watched the good parts. I was fascinated so many attacks on tech. I thought that was interesting. Sort of finally funneling down, you know, and the fact that so many tech companies were up and Netflix only got two wins out of three four nominations for Merit, Lauren for Marriage Church.
She was fantastic in it. Olivia Coleman for the crown. Irishman didn't win. The two popes.
I believe all kinds of shows didn't win. Fleabag won. Best shot on television last year. Yes.
But it was interesting they didn't win. But they attacked an apple being a sweatshop. Netflix. Isis won.
The face book. Sasha Baron Cohen won. Did you hear that? Did you hear that guy?
Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. We still got to get him to come now.
I got to get him to come to come. Oh my God. That guy is a genius. That guy is a genius.
And he's doing a lot of good. Oh my God. These people. You know what I mean?
Hardly pointless. I think it must. I think Ricky Gervais was thinking this group of people in this time and place is just kind of peripheral. I guess.
Peripherals. I thought it was interesting about it. That's what it felt a little bit. But there's actually research.
My colleague, a gangster colleague, professor Adam Alter has appointed the psychology under the business school. Has done great research showing that in times of stress, comedy, certain popularity and in good times, everybody wants to watch, you know, Ingrid Bergman films about everybody dying and sad. And I think unfortunately, comedies are about to become a lot more popular. I'm actually, for the first time in a while, physically worried and tense and anxious about what's going on.
And I don't know if it's my age or that I'm actually just more aware and we should be worried. But I remember thinking, I really want to go and go up because I need to get my mind off. Anyway, we got to go to a break and we get back, we'll be doing wins and fails a new segment called mandatory happiness. I'm a said Herndon.
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I have to learn from this. And I will learn from this. I mean, it's not a 20-28 question. It's about what it means to be a better first boss in my office and also a better senator to my constituents.
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Yes, I go first. I mean, you know, my win. I win. My win is a naive misguided child who spreads Nazi propaganda and only has imaginary friends.
His name is Mark Zuckerberg. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry.
This is an old intro for the social network. Sorry. Who's your win? My win is Richard Plepler, who's going to Apple to work on Apple TV+, I was correct about my prediction.
He's doing it through his company himself, he's going to be making things exclusively for them. Obviously he left AT&T's after AT&T bought WarnerMedia, you know, he hated those people, just pretty much hated them. But he's responsible for things like Game of Thrones and Big Little Lies and sort of everything. Richard Pleplers, a terrific maker of TV.
So here's hoping that Apple will make better TV by hiring him. And so I thought that was, I think that's a win for them. Yeah, it is that guy on top of the assets, the capital that Tim Cook and Apple are going to throw at us. We're going to have some incredible, we're going to be more great original scripted television.
He's got everybody loves Richard Pleplers, including me. And I think he's just, he has a network, he's got the curiosity, you know, some people are like, oh, he's later in his career, but I've never seen someone more enthusiastic. You know what I mean? He's still like engaged and I find him to be highly relevant.
And I think the stuff he makes has been, you know, just he's a really, you know, it's interesting. I mean, I often talk about the stuff he missed, Homeland. I think he passed on that. He just is, he's very smart.
He's missed a few things, but he then recovers really quickly. Like I think they passed on billions, which went to show time and then he made succession, which you could argue was better. So anyway, I really, I think it's going to be interesting to see what he creates because I think Apple hasn't really put enough real talent to that, to the money they have yet. So anyway, what's your, what's your fail, Scott?
Yeah, I don't have a fail. I'm trying to stay optimistic. I'm going to skip fail today because I'm not, okay, I'll do fail. I think the biggest mistake, and I can't help it, I'm going to talk about the Trump administration.
I think of this administration, you know, the bigotry, the misogyny, the lack of empathy, that's all incredibly distressing. The dangerous stupidity of eroding in what is just a couple of years or three years, what is probably the most powerful alliance in the history of modern civilization, and that's the North Atlantic Treaty. Did you notice how none of the Europeans came to RA? They all basically said, boss, this is your mess.
I mean, none of them. We have taken incredible armies, intelligence, people with shared values, and we've just said, we no longer need you. And we've offended them. And now we are, we are running around the world again, speaking super loudly with a stick that is splintering and shipping and getting smaller and smaller.
I think that will go down as the biggest failure of this errant, this errant three and a half years as is taking our friends, people that we stand shoulder with and just saying, you know what? We don't need you. We don't like you. It's just, it's a fail-up.
Epic proportions. Oh, God. Can we start drinking? Can we start drinking?
Yes. This war is really check you out. It's really interesting. Well, unfortunately, I'm thoughtful and I can do math.
It literally appears that these folks have actually written out a scenario plan on a risk adjusted basis. What are the likely responses here? It's just, um, yeah. Yeah.
There was a, there was a, there was someone, I tweeted one of the theories, like it was 10 or 12 different things and it was super helpful, but it was disturbing, like everyone's super disturbed because it's someone just, the part that's most disturbing is that the people left in the White House are literally the drags. Like, we've got the drags and inexperienced people there making these decisions and just the idea that Jared Kushner is making decisions on this, on my life and life and my kids, you know, my son actually who's 17 is turning 18 was like, do you think I'll be drafted? He said that to me. Like, I was like, I don't know.
Like, I hope not. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I was just, it was really, I never thought of that and it was interesting that he was already there, you know, the idea that we're going to have a war. I have a draft story.
When I was, um, 16 or 17, we invaded Grenada and my mom freaked out and got me British citizenship. I became a dual citizenship such that I wouldn't have to leave for Canada. I didn't know what she was talking about. I didn't know what Grenada was.
And about the moment, about the moment, about the moment we heard from the queen that I was now a dual citizen, um, Britain declared well on the Falkland Islands and I got a notice saying that I needed to register for Her Majesty's Royal Navy. I was like 15 minutes. Yeah. So my mom accidentally almost got me, uh, got me, uh, working for the Royal Navy.
But anyway. Oh my God. Scott in the army would be just doesn't work. That does not work anyway.
It would be in the break. It would be in the break. My fail is this story in a, I just had a big argument on CNBC about it. New York wanted Amazon H U two so badly that we realized according to the Wall Street Journal, state officials offered $800 million more incentives that was previously known, including tax incentives to hire more, um, people of color, promote diversity and pay their part of employees salaries.
They were going to pay part of those salaries in different parts of the state. It wasn't just New York. Um, you know, at the same time, New York Times had a story as we could about how many more tech companies are going to the west side of New York, uh, New York State on Manhattan. Um, so I had an argument with David Faber who thought it was a mistake to not have allowed Amazon to create that campus.
And they should have done the incentives. And then everyone on Twitter was attacking for me for being a socialist, which I was like, no, I don't want to give rich people money. Anyway, what do you think of this? What do you, what do you care?
You're, you're not the socialist. You're the only capitalist in the room. And what CNBC and David Faber are is they're the worst type of socialist or cronius. They want national champions and have decided that companies they think are cool should get certain benefits.
I've, you know, along with several talented people created a company in New York that had 140 high paying jobs and according to Cuomo and to Blasio, that means I'm entitled to $17 million in subsidies, which I would spend on a helicopter pad, a bombarded challenge or 300 pro line 21 Rockwell avionics and a bell H four three helicopter. That is literally what I could have bought according to de Blasio, David Faber and Mario Governor Cuomo that what my company was entitled to, but instead we say, okay, the company that is the third most valuable company in the world, we're going to be socialists and we're going to pick winners and losers. So when you walk into a room with David Faber and CNBC, there's, there's a capitalist in the room that makes them the other guys, they're the worst type of socialist or cronius, national champions, picking winners and losers. Mario Cuomo and, or Governor Cuomo and Mayor de Blasio are literally going to go down as the worst poker players in history.
And by the way, by the way, all the jobs they promised in exchange for soaking our municipal fire, police and school districts, all those jobs are coming here anyways, because this is where Bezos wants to roll. They have already hired 1,500 additional incremental people for Amazon and other 500 people for AWS. They are on track to hire more people than they promised should we give them the billions of dollars. This is Governor Cuomo and Mayor de Blasio are terrible capital allocators, they're terrible CEOs of municipal, the municipal treasury.
You're the capitalist in the room, Cara. Thank you. Well, you go on Twitter and say that because I'm being attacked by all the men of Twitter because I'm a lady socialist. I will declare on them.
I need you to be the Mandalorian there. All right. We're going to go to a new, we're going to skip predictions today and go. We're going to do a Friday predictions.
But we have a new section that we're trying out called mandatory happiness. This is for you, Scott, because you need a little lift. I see that. Thank you.
I want to test out something. We're testing out all kinds of new segments. We have so much. We have twice a week.
We got to come up with new gigas for you fans of ours. So it's not a related to algebra of happiness, but it kind of is. So the news is special. So depressing.
You're clearly needing a need of a drink at this time. I want you to take a minute and share one positive thing and you go first. You want me to go first on us? Yes.
Okay. So I think role models are really important. I think role models is actually my book agent. I got him in Jim Levine.
He's this tall, handsome guy. I think he's in his 70s who is great at what he does, married for 40 years, super into his family. Works out every day. Just the guy I want to be as I get older.
I have a tremendous amount of respect for this guy and does something he loves and makes a really good living at it. And he was started his career as a child psychologist. And I asked him, I said, I feel like I'm an average good dad. I spotted a good to great dad.
And I said, what advice? What piece of advice would you have as someone who studied child psychology for the bulk of your career? And he said, you know, there's so much conflicting data out there. But the one kind of absolute for me is always trying to find moments of engagement with your children.
Find something that you share and then make them wrote and repeat them whether it's Tuesday Pete's and I always reading reading to them a certain book. I've been telling my both my son's stories about my my parents immigrating to America. And over the week in Montana, my son discovered this wonderful new program called Lost in Space. It's the reboot of the old series.
I watched it when I was a kid. I love the show. Oh my gosh. This is a gift.
So just to shout out to Molly Parker as Maureen Robinson, Maxwell Jenkins as Will Robinson, Mina Sundwell as Penny Robinson, Parker Posey, who's great at his doctor Smith. She plays the crazy doctor Smith. The crazy gay doctor Smith. That's right.
I love the students. It's John Robinson in this incredible reboot and it just shows you what's happened to television. Netflix. Netflix.
Netflix on this thing. The special effects. The thing you're going to love about this show is not only is it a way to create moments in engagement with your boys, but the characters in it are really strong female leaders. So they have to.
They just did this right. It's a great effect, great storytelling. And for someone in my generation, your generation, you just start wanting to like it and they give you a ton of reasons to like it. So moments of engagement with my sons, that is my mandatory moment of happiness.
Well, that sounds great. I'm going to go with a movie too. I'm having gone to several movies. You know, I went to see Star Wars and I also went to see Bombshell, which I loved by the way.
That was a terrific movie. You liked that. I did. It's not doing as well, but it was great.
It was a great movie. Is the reboot. The second top gun. I'm sorry.
I love top guns so so much. I hate myself for it, but I love it. And they showed a new trailer for it, which I loved. And you know, a lot of volleyball playing with their shirts off, stuff like that.
I'm not gay. I love it. I love the whole thing. And even though I really can't stand Tom Cruise.
I really love Tom Cruise. It's terrible. It's a terrible conundrum for me. He's a movie star.
Tom Cruise movie star. They're so hokey and it's so good. And then he comes up. They lift him up onto the deck and they play the music and he's on there.
I don't know. I just love him. I'm so happy. There's a new remake of top gun.
Yeah. No, no, no. We make a part two. It's 25 years later.
He's taking the new recruits, including Miles Teller. You're more fun to have Tom Cruise. They'll kill her back. That would make the movie.
No, no, no, no. Because he's like, no, he didn't, he's not age well. Tom Cruise's age well. He hasn't age well.
He hasn't age well. He hasn't age well. He makes you want to be a Scientologist. I don't want you on that one.
Moments in engagement with the dog and his little dog. I like my kids too. But anyway, anyway, it's time for us to go. Okay.
This has been both funny and also touching. I'm freaked out here. Hold me. I am freaked out.
Did you get my present? You can talk about that. I hate it when people send me gifts. I'm terrible at gas.
I'm an old male. I used UPS or postal service. It is in your house in Florida where you told me to send it. I sent you the gift you wanted.
Okay. And you did not get it. A gift I wanted. Lonnie Anderson?
What's the gift I wanted? Lottie. It's WKRP and Cincinnati. Yes, she was very cute then.
I'm just going to hand the bar read. Here for the dog. No one does. Jeannie, get to your bottle.
Listen to me. Go ahead. Listen to me. Okay.
I sent you a present. You need to get it in Florida next year. This will be a win-win because I'll turn them lesbian. You are going to get it.
I would like knowledge of my present. I got no present. I got no present. That's definitely not going to make the show.
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