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How to care for others without burning out in the process. That's this week on Explain It to Me. Find new episodes Sundays wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Sally Helm.
Inflammation. It is something I've been seeing a lot of people talk about, especially on TikTok. And according to them, inflammation is basically the whole problem with our health. It causes heart problems, anxiety, acne.
It is maybe even the root of all diseases. So how accurate is that? That's this week on Explain It to Me. You're real pretty.
Your voice is pretty. Yeah. Handsome voice. It's like when people meet me and they kind of cock their head and go, like, oh, that's what you look like.
Hi, everyone. This is Pivot from New York Magazine in the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm Kariswisher. I'm in Scott Galloway's living room.
Let's be honest. It's our living room at this point. It is. It's nice.
Can you tell the people you were just doing when I arrived and I had to sit in the foyer? Karah, I don't like to brag. You know, when I have a famous person over, I like to respect their privacy. I am now good good friends with Jason Isaacs from The Patriot, the Harry Potter films.
He's like one of those great Shakespearean British guys who's also quite handsome. And delightful. You got to hang out with him. He had many a story, a very charming story.
You're going out with him in London. Now you've made a new friend, a new famous friend. You were going to be in that thing. Yeah, I'm super excited.
Of course, it's hilarious. My first major original script of drama appearance is just my voice. I don't know what to take from that. You're real pretty.
Your voice is pretty. Handsome voice. When people meet me and they kind of cock their head and go, oh. That's what you look like.
We were talking about this. I've always looked at Hollywood in the industry. Not a skew, but anyone can do that. I tried it, and it was so hard, and I was so bad at it, and they sent over Jason.
And he literally turned my chicken shit into chicken salad. I'm intoxicated. This guy was so good. I know.
And so he gave me such great direction and told me what points to head and set up scenarios. Imagine you just found out this. I'm just totally blown away. I've decided.
You love it now. I need to be. I'm going to be gloved shit out of the new character in Star Wars. Can you say what you're doing?
Are you allowed to say what you're on? It's a voice. You play a voice over the phone. Yeah, I'll just say it's arguably one of the most popular original script of dramas.
And it's coming back for a new season. I don't know if I'm allowed to say anything. No, I think you're not. I'm also in one that I taped as your call in Los Angeles.
Oh, you had to one up me. Well, I'm on camera. I had to join SAG, as you know, to do it. I'm on camera.
And I play myself, so that's a little easier for characters. I get my money to a Thai orphanage, so I don't have to... I'm serious. That's a true story, so I don't have to join a union.
But they love to have me. They love to have me. Can I just tell you? If you appear enough, you have to join SAG, and that will be a day.
No, I get it. Now I get it. Now I get it. You know what?
You're going to get intoxicated. You're going to be on your own set of your show. And Rosamind Pike will go, Scott, we'd really like you to play yourself. I'm totally starstruck.
I'm like, in my trailer, I'm on Calla Lily's, Haribo Gummies, Starch, and some Saran wrap. Right now. Okay. In any case, we are in New York.
We had a beautiful event last night where Scott and I were joined by Joanna Coles at Zero Bond. That was fun. We're having some good times. It's fucking fabulous.
We were fabulous. After all this bullshit, you dealing with, with, I don't know, the McLaughlin report and me dealing with clients and employees. We're like, this is our, these are our salad days. These are our salad days.
It's true. And we had our staff over, both staff from Prof G from On. And we want to thank them for their amazing work. And we had them all together.
And they asked this question. Mostly. Mostly the time of me. I'm not sure I call it amazing.
Yeah. Good. You know, amazing ish, amazing ish. Amazing ish.
Anyway, we've been doing a lot. I'm very excited. So my favorite question from last night and I want you to repeat your answer. Okay.
Mostly because then I want you to ask me. Why don't you just answer it? It's really thoughtful young woman said, what is each of your purposes? Like what, what, what is your goal now in life, Cara?
I didn't have one. I didn't have one. I didn't have one. I'm doing exactly what I want.
You didn't know. That's why I don't remember. You really didn't have one. I mean, that was it.
I don't, I like what I'm doing. I don't have a, I don't have a worry about that. But you've had a good answer. You need to do more ketamine and say, well, you know, and be more intentional.
No, I don't, I don't say words like intentional. And that's why I'm happy. But what is your answer to that? I said that I love what Richard Reeves said in Boys and Men about surplus value about figuring out a way that you get more love than you take.
You create more tax revenues than you've taken from the government. You know, you better your parents, which isn't easy than they were to you over the course of their lifetime. I love just the idea of surplus value. It's totally.
I love that. Yeah, it's fantastic. And I tell this to my boys where your school is spending a lot of time and energy on you. You're not giving anything back.
Your parents are loving you more than you're loving us back. At some point, you're going to add surplus value. I love, I love that notion also for me. It was sort of giving up the scorecard if you will.
I used to kind of mark all my relationships. And if I didn't feel I was getting more out of them, I would shed them or get upset, which is just stupid. It's a scarcity mentality, right? Isn't I?
Well, no, yeah, it's not the way to live your life because you'll always inflate your own contributions and deflate other people. It's a terrible way to live your life. It was a big unlock for me, which is kind of a similar thing. And then when I did my ketamine therapy, and I knew this, but I came out of it and I just sort of clarified, and I guess it didn't clarify, but just cemented the notion that I'm supposed to, my mission now is to raise patriotic loving boys.
That's my mission. I think that's every parent's mission. It's to raise really healthy, wonderful citizens. And give care of your apartment.
Now, I think it's time that you turn it over to me. That almost came in second, but it was third. I feel like if you want to be a giver and of cornucopia and of boundlessness, you should sign this apartment for me. You've been here every day.
I think you're here more than I am. I know that. You're very generous. You're very generous.
I do. It's really enjoyable. We have a lot of laughs. I'm coming to London next week, but you're not going to be there.
I'm not. Can I go over your house and look at your thing? As if you were going to ask. No, I'm going to call your wife.
Is she there? No, she's off partying, isn't she? Yeah, no, she's in Miami. It's a music festival.
There's a rest of it out of lessons phase that I think she's going to go out of in about 30 or or 40 years. Oh, your wife is fun. With all of her hot Florida friends who are also going through this. I used to be hot and now my eggs are dying.
I need to try every drug and go to everything. You're not a party. You're not a music festival kind of guy. This is how you think when you get older.
I'm like, what if there's a fire? Yeah, what's my exit plan? What's the exit route? That's how you think when you're older.
I'm like, if I slipped and broke a hip right now, would anyone even notice? It's true. That's how you think. I do my drugs at home and I turn on Spotify.
That's my music festival. I think you have a good time. I think you were actually happy last night, which I really like. I had a great time.
Anyway, we've got a lot to get to today, besides being personally happy and joining the Hollywood ranks, including Kamala Harris' Fox News interview, which was last night. Donald Trump's disturbing dance party, if that's what you want to call it. And Elon Musk, Robotax, the event that was basically smoke mirrors and fake robots. Let's get to it.
I heard you first. We discussed this yesterday. I heard you have an update to your apology to Dax Shepard that I suggested you do. Oh, we're back to our starfucking.
No, no. But this was... People are... Many people asked me about this on the street.
It's important. The Dax Shepard situation. Yeah. My testicles finally descended and I'd send him a text apologizing and he was incredibly gracious and generous back.
And he didn't say, though, no problem. I'll come back on your podcast and we won't have you back on the podcast. He was very gracious, very polite, but that's it. I'm out of Dax's life.
You know why? What did I tell you? Why care? Because you're on a lower shelf.
That's literally my new nickname, lower shelf. People are going to start coming up to me and going, hey, I'll ask. He commented he's not higher. Oh, did he comment saying he's on a higher shelf?
Oh, really? Well, that's what a higher shelf person would do. Oh, he's commenting back. Oh, yeah.
He's on a higher shelf, Dax. I'm sorry. Plus, now your wife's in like the hottest sitcom. You're on a way higher shelf.
Now your wife has moved you up a shelf. People love that. No one wanted this. That's what it's called.
People love it. Nobody wants this. It's great. I watch the whole season.
You have to watch it. And Adam Brody is a dreamy man. I have to say, he plays a hot rabbi. Yeah, George Hahn's cousin, Katherine Hahn, played a hot rabbi and transparent.
She is. And she's on a show, too. She's on a show, too. Oh, she's huge.
She's like the character actor of all character actors. Now she's a lead in a new Marvel thing. She's blown up. She's a bad witch.
She's a bad witch. But who's trying to be good, but not really. But anyway, Dax, thank you for being so pointy. Thank you, Dax.
That's what a higher shelf person would say, but indeed you are. So this is interesting. Big Tech is going on on nuclear energy. I've talked about this for AI.
This week, Google and Amazon have announced they're investing in new generation of small nuclear reactors. I'm going to keep talking about this. Small nuclear devices that people are going to have follows Microsoft's reason to revive the three-mile island nuclear plant. That's a move.
They must really need energy. What are you surprised? They're all doing this. They just decided to revive nuclear.
They have to decide. Look, if the choke point it appears is not demand, it's not applications for AI. The choke point is supposedly the incremental demand and power consumption. And if you think about, so nuclear right now provides nearly half of America's clean energy.
It's one of the most reliable energy sources in America. It doesn't need to be windy. It doesn't need to be out. It's also, in case we haven't forgotten here or in case we don't remember, it's carbon-free.
Every year I pick a technology the year, in my predictions, in 2022 I picked AI and 2023 I picked GLP1, spoiler alert for 2025. It's absolutely nuclear. If you want reliable, serious, efficient energy that has no carbon footprint, and let me just remind everyone again, my favorite bumper sticker, more people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than a nuclear power plant in the United States, it all roads lead to one place. And that is nuclear.
And the innovation here, because of people the capital pouring in, I think it's going to be great, the big techs going into this. Bill Gates. Bill Gates is a big, yeah. I did an interview with him where he talked about it just recently, and then a couple of years ago.
And then oddly enough, I did an interview with Oliver Stone, who's really into this nuclear energy, which was odd. He's a bunch of conspiracy theories. He wanders around and disputes every now and then, but he had done a whole documentary on this. And Sam Altman's very invested in, I think it's called Helion, all kinds of different efforts happening here.
It definitely got bad PR. That was Oliver Stone's thing. And when I did these interviews at the time, this was three years ago maybe, when I was doing my New York Times podcast, I got so much pushback from people, I was like, and Stone was making the point that it got bad PR because of movies, Hollywood, and the new generation are different. They're not going to see those sort of menacing looking towers, although I would be interested to see what they do in through my island, but the new technology around them is really quite interesting.
And it's an important thing to invest in, because as Gates says, you know, solar isn't going to make it, wind isn't going to make it, recycling isn't going to make it. We're going to need a number of things. And now with these huge poles on the energy grid because of AI, that's another thing. And that's great.
Let the tech companies pay for it. That sounds good to me. First off, I remember I grew up in Southern California. And when I was learning how to surf, some of the surfers used to go, I think it was Santa no for it because they use water to cool the reactors.
And so there was so much hot water that there was a part of the ocean that was actually warm and it's not dangerous water, it's just water that's been heated. And there's no free lunch. There are quote unquote, waste or emissions and it's spent nuclear fuel, but you could take all of the nuclear fuel and it would be, you could put it in a container that would cover one football field and be 30 feet high. That is the total.
Now, granted, you don't want to get near that shit, it needs to be secure. It's not going to be not scary for, you know, thousands of years, but it's one football field 30 feet high. That's the total emissions. I'm so into nuclear.
You know what we should do? We should have even stopped focusing on the election and take it in one of his rockets and bring it to Mars. I think that's great. What?
Take what? Take the nuclear stuff and bring it to Mars. Take the nuclear stuff and bring it to Mars. Take it into space.
Yeah. I mean, I don't know how you're squaring that circle. I don't know what's going on there. What is that?
No, I just think I'm trying to think of a way to dispose of it, not on this earth. Oh, I see. Take it somewhere else. I'm way out of you.
Obviously smarter. I'm an actor. You're not done now. You're not so smart.
You're pretty. Right. Yeah. That's the one about changed our lives.
This is a company that's a little less positive about AI and was more—it was sort of by people who were worried about safety but Dario Amode, who was not another well-known figure, has released an essay titled Machines of Loving Grace laying out a utopian view of AI's impact, which was interesting. The essay Amode suggested AI could accelerate a million years of medical process—something we talk about a lot, making it possible in just a hundred days, cure mental illness and alleviate poverty. The EOS has a power flow. It could come as early as 2026 and they're also ways—also ways it could take much longer.
It's really interesting because I've had conversations, as I said, Bill Gates—you've all hurriedly—with Meredith Weittaker this week who runs signal about the utopia of AI on with Careswisher. But we also have to be realistic about the dangers. Let's listen to a recent interview I did with Yvall Harari, the author who both Scott and I have great regard for. What is AI?
Why is it dangerous? What is the threat? And a lot of people have difficulty grasping it. It's not like nuclear weapons that the danger was obvious and nuclear war which was just kill everybody.
What's the danger in AI? And I think one of the key issues in the conversation about AI is to explain that it's not about the big robot rebellion, it's more about the AI bureaucrats. It will take the world from within and not by rebelling from outside of from below. AI is not a general intelligence, but it doesn't need to be.
Within a bureaucracy, you need a very kind of neural intelligence to gain enormous power. He had some really interesting thoughts that went off in different directions. I saw this play this week in New York, McNeil with Robert Downey Jr., which also covers the issues around AI. But he's been more of the alarm razors, but might have anything to do with anthropic hoping to raise funds at $40 million valuation?
Tell me what you think's happening here. Well, I'm really betting or hoping that anthropic does well. First off, anthropic we might as well call it Amazon AI. It's just hilarious, all these sub-brands in an attempt to distract the FTC and the DOJ from the fact that it's the same players.
There is the new duopoly forming and that is open video is what I call it. So anyone that's a challenger to either those firms is good. I think for the ecosystem, the economy and the way I use AI is I use it as a thought partner. So if I'm writing- And you use cloth from anthropic.
I use chat GPT and cloth. And why wouldn't you? It doesn't make any sense to me that someone would just use one or the other because if I'm writing something and I think, okay, give me, I mean, I will absolutely, we're doing character development for this original script of drama and I'm thinking, okay, this character needs some hobbies to add some texture to their personality. And I'll put in the character, I'll do everything.
I'll say, this is, I'll even describe that, you know, what the original script of program is about everything. I'll say, give me some, give me some interesting hobbies that would be feel real for someone in this position, but add some flavor and I'll expect it. And I'll come back with eight hobbies and five of them make no sense. Two of them are fine.
And you think one, you're like, wow, that's great. Yeah, that you wouldn't have thought of. Yeah. And then I go to cloud or chat GPT and I type in the exact same prompt to see what it thinks.
So why, why not have one thought partner? Why, you know, have two and also in an indirect way, indirect way. And I don't like to do this very often, but I'm going to bring this back to me. Anthropic is my best investment of 2024, because I'm fascinated with bankruptcy filings, you know, see about losses, regenerated at 19.
The, the, and I looked at the bankruptcy filing for FTX and it listed all the assets and it said, you know, they have some shit coins, have some Bitcoin, have a little bit of cash. And one of their assets was it said, anthropic shares. And I couldn't figure out how much all it said was they had invested a half a billion dollars in anthropic. I think somewhere between three and four years ago and I thought, okay, realistically, they probably own 10% of anthropic or basically FTX has 10% of anthropic as part of their asset base.
And I thought anthropic is probably worth 30 to $40 billion, meaning that the $9 billion in claims against FTX, bankrupt FTX 30 to 40 cents of on the dollar were just in anthropic shares. So I went out and you, when I went out, you could buy claims against a bankrupt FTX for 22 cents. And I thought there's at least 22 cents worth of anthropic shares here for the, for the, for the debtors or for the claimants. And I made my, what is probably my biggest investment of 2024.
And fast forward, it's always great to talk about your wins. I also got the shit kicked out of me on a healthcare startup. So I lose money all the time. But anyways, these claims now are worth 120 to 140 cents on the dollar.
And it all started with anthropic. Yeah, you talked about that. I'm glad you disclosed that, by the way. By the way, me 16.
Okay. 16 for 15, 15. Anyway, 15, what you talked about when you lost your virginity? Oh God, 15, 15.
I didn't care. I was a lesbian. I didn't care if I should use this. I didn't have to give them.
I didn't find any of these like fun loving lesbians in high school. I was unusual. I didn't want to give people thought that it was repulsive. And so I would sleep with them.
Thank you to find a lesbian. That's what you needed to do. God, it's so every bone in my body is saying don't say anything. Nuclear power, nuclear power.
Nuclear power. Talk about this because anthropic was sort of the, there's only safety like the guy who left Iliya left open AI, you know, others involved in safety or pushing that very, and anthropic was that company of people that were much more dreamy about the idea that we keep everything safe and that Sam Altman was rushing too hard to commercialization. And that's precisely what they're doing, right? Correct.
In a capitalist society where your kids are going to have more opportunity, you're going to live longer, less likely to be depressed, less likely to be able to have a much, much larger selection set of mates and people will laugh at your jokes if you have a lot of money. The incentive in America all points to one thing. It's not be a good person. It's not think about the Commonwealth.
It's do whatever you need to do or say to get the price of the shares and the equity value up. And all you need to do, if you want to understand why corporations are making the decisions they're making or why I see you saying anything or why David Zazlov is at the US Open with Tom Cruise probably hoping to sign him up for some sort of movie deal with HBO or Warner. Or Elon Musk also. All you need to do is reverse engineer to the money.
And the notion that these guys, even Volvo who generally wants a safer car, they do it because they realize there's demand and people pay incremental margin for an underpowered car. But why do they have to go on about Sam Altman said, no reason blog goes suggesting super intelligent. They're really are selling it with massive prosperity, which I prefer, I have to say, I prefer Sam Altman's version, because at least he's being honest, like we're going to make some dough here. I find it irritating on these people that safety, safety, safety worries.
And then the minute they need to make money, they go right to the money, which I don't mind if that's what they say. I just don't want to listen to them. Yammer on about how great it's going to be for all of us. When you know it's going to be great for them and maybe for us.
Yeah, I think the rap should be our focus is on for profit. We think there's anything we'll have, any technology is going to have a ton of upside or loss of externalities. And we're genuine about trying to work with government and they all say this and it's a lie. But we're trying to be thoughtful about the potential harms here.
That's the best I could do. But they're not. They're going to always, when you're paid not to understand something, it's really easy to not understand it. The CEOs of tobacco companies could just never make the link between nicotine and addiction or between combustibles in lung cancer.
Despite evidence everywhere, they thought that we were going to try and get them to realize that the CEO of Exxon is ever going to come to grips with a existential crisis of climate change. No one at his funeral is going to say, you know, he was the CEO of the Bigg's fossil fuels company, the world, but he choked back on it and shareholders lost money. But maybe the world is one millionth of a degree cooler than it would be otherwise. All they're going to remember is if he was a generous guy, and if he had, you know, a fat house and his kids did well, every incentive in our economy points towards money.
I find that you're going to have to always go with utopia, like it's going to be so good for everyone. And I think it probably will be. I just am like, stop selling past the sale, I guess. That's how we're connecting the world.
Yes, just like you're making money, right? Okay, God. Recognizing beer is information. Yeah, exactly.
Like you're not here to don't be evil. Stop it. Stop it. They can't help themselves.
These tech people. Anyway, let's get to our first big story. Vice President Kamala Harris appears to be taking our advice. I'm sure she's listening to everything we say as her media blitz continues, Harris is campaign officials met with Joe Rogan Steen this week about a potential interview, although because he's such a doormat, it's perfect to go on there.
Although an appearance is yet to be confirmed. Doormat, you really think it's a doormat? I think it's gullible. Oh, he's just like, whatever, whatever someone says, he's like, Oh, interesting.
He'll just be complimented that they're there. Donald Trump also hinted at doing Rogan on Wednesday. Here's why wouldn't they? It's enormous.
That's why she did call your daddy. On Wednesday, here's sat down with Fox News's Brett Baer. Another thing we suggested she do. And in fact, he did.
Brett was trying to be Mr. Tough, I guess, and a few Republican talking points and talked over her quite a bit. I thought that he needed to know what he was trying to do, but he didn't, he looked like he was super nervous. Harris pushed back.
It gave her an opportunity to push back in some right wing talking points and also tried to make the case for why Trump is so dangerous. Let's listen. You and I both know that he's talked about turning the American military on the American people. He has talked about going after people who are engaged in a peaceful protest.
He has talked about locking people up because they disagree with him. This is a democracy. And in a democracy, the president of the United States in the United States of America should be willing to be able to handle criticism without saying he'd lock people up for doing it. Yeah, I thought she was quite strong.
Her answers on immigration were okay, but she was there. She did say she, her presidency would be different than Biden's, which is what she didn't manage to do in the view on the view, which she and people want her to do it in a deaf way without throwing him under the bus. So do you think she succeeded in winning over any right wing boaters? I thought going there was a good thing.
And it's not, you know, I was on seeing unless I can Scott Jennings who could be super irritating, although it wasn't stupid. It was like, well, she doesn't get a participation trophy. And I, I don't know. She kind of does.
She kind of does. She kind of does because he's not. That's right. And also, guess what she didn't do, spend 30 minutes swaying to music playing Avi Maria three times.
God, that was weird. So she didn't do that. And so, you know, they, they, you know, they, they grade her on such a curve compared to him. He literally is adult.
No comparison. And at the economics club, he spewed nonsense. I thought this was a win for her. And I thought it's good that she does.
She's doing it again. Should do it over and over again everywhere. Yeah. Look, just being there, if you want to be part of the resistance, you have to go behind enemy lines.
And if you're good at this, it goes, I mean, the best, the best moments for Clinton or for Governor Newsom are when they go on Fox because they can pick to it a judge to 100%. Secretary Buttigieg is never better than when he's on Fox because he's like, guys, that literally bitch, that's the best you have. And he's back in their face with it. And I thought she was okay.
I think on the whole, it was a win for her. Like, she's not great on her feet. And sometimes her words come across. And I want to be clear, she is held to an entirely different standard than Trump because she can string of sentence together.
But go ahead. Well, I mean, the reality is we, I'm going to go there. It's just a different standard for a woman. A woman is if she was hallucinating on stage and said, Oh, we're going to listen to the song and set up their swing for 30 minutes.
It'd be everyone would just be like, Oh, she's crazy. She's not a serious candidate. We can't vote for her. I thought it was good that she went on.
But here's this will be the election of the podcast because if she goes on Joe Rogan, which I think she's going to do, she will reach more people by being unbroken than she would reach if she went on CNN, Fox, MSNBC, in prime time, combined. He gets 11 million listeners per show going on all those shows every day of the week for a full week. Not as many people will see you as if you go on on Joe Rogan. She was also going everything.
I mean, she'll get better as she does it, right? Everybody gets better as they do things. We got better as podcast as we did it, right? And I do think once, you know, interestingly, after the debate, even my mom was like, Oh, she was pretty good.
Like they just need to see her. And if she doesn't like the suede of the music and let's just talk about that. Former President Donald Trump, you know, not only did he declare himself the father of IBF and all female town hall with Fox News, it was packed with pro Trump people, by the way, women, not not one detractor. He also had a bizarre, bizarre event on Monday, where he had enough of answering questions, which he were all pre selected, by the way, it was 39 minutes.
They replayed Avi Maria, which the last time I heard it was at my grandmother's funeral. I'm sorry for your loss. Thank you. It was like 30 years ago.
That's the trauma. If we figured it out, that's the trauma trauma. I know Avi Maria, I cannot believe it played it three times. Governor Tim all summed it up pretty well.
Let's listen. He stopped taking questions and stood frozen on stage for 30 minutes while they played his Spotify list for people. Do you think he knows the story behind the YMCA song? Look, it was, it was strange, but if this was your grandfather, you would take the keys away.
You would take the keys away. Yeah, and Kristin on look like a home health. She looked like she needed to find a dog to kill to take the attention off of them. Some people dismiss this stuff as silly or weird.
I find it concerning. Rogers has polling on whether people believe Trump is, quote, mentally sharp and able to deal with challenges. 53% of voters agreed with that sentiment in July of 2023. That number is down to 46% as of last week.
People are sort of getting the message. What do you think about his? You know, she could always have done better, but she could string sentences together and go, you know, mono, mono with Brett. He had a very hard time in all his interviews having any cogent sentences.
How do you think this matters? Has it gotten through quickly enough? I think the Trump campaign believes that as of right now they would win and they're playing defense. I mean, they're Susie Wiles, the brains behind all of this.
I think she's basically said, look, we have momentum right now. Just put him in a basement. Don't let him speak. And he's kind of got the message.
He doesn't go free for him. He doesn't want to answer questions. He's trying to avoid anything. I think at this point in the campaign, it's a strategic mistake.
The way you lose in football in the second half, if you're up to zero, is you're playing not to lose. And he's playing, I think right now he's playing not to lose. I think she's doing absolutely the right thing. I'd like to think again, you know, I want to speak for you.
I'm too close to this. I'm too emotionally involved in it. But I think where the next two or three weeks that are going to really help is one, I do think money helps in terms of turn out the vote in a ground game and she has more money. And two, I think her team of surrogates, whether it's Bill Clinton and Waffle houses or Barack Obama speaking to black men, I think her surrogates are more powerful.
But it's very interesting momentum has swung back pretty aggressively towards Trump over the last two weeks. I'll be curious what happens this week and the ultimate litmus test. In my opinion, the only poll I'm watching, the only poll I trust is the stock price of Donald Trump media. I don't.
I think it's all gained along with Polly market, which is controlled by Peter Teal, by the way. Well, it's pretty interesting. It was at 46 when, you know, after the Biden debate, when everyone thought he was still going to stand, and then when he dropped out of the race and Vice President Harris got some momentum, it plummeted to 12. And in the last two weeks, since he's sort of reestablished some momentum, it's now back up to like 34.
I think that just reflects their confidence. It doesn't mean that it's not bounding truth. I think they're confident. And that is absolutely true.
That said, he was at Univision last night and Scott, this audience was just was subject to him. He's gone out and he's not in a basement. That's for sure. He's around.
Grandpa is wandering around saying weird things. He was on Univision. Go watch some of those clips. One guy, he said January six was a gathering of love.
He started going on about immigrants. When a guy asked it, I got to tell you the questions from this, I think it was a largely Hispanic audience were great. They were like, okay, you're going to get rid of all these immigrants who's going to pick my crops. Like I pick crops for years, you're going to make prices go up.
And they had great one was like, I'm sorry, I'm a Republican, but what is going on with you in January six? You need to stop. He had all kinds of nonsense questions. And when he did that January six was a gathering of love, literally the whole crowd was, you know, when you look down when a whole person pays in their pants, you're like, everybody doesn't want to say anything.
That's what the whole crowd was looking down anywhere but at him. And they were concerned. Like this is this guy needs to be taken off stage because he needs to have this diaper change. And that's what it that's what it felt like.
The more he's out, the more it's dead clear, he's mentally incapacitated or increasingly. So I'm not so sure I believe in the Trump stock thing. I think they're confident. I think it's I think it's misplace confidence because I do think this crowd was fascinating to watch them react to him.
And the same thing at the economic club. Anywhere he goes, he's out. He's just at all. Anyway, he's what he's not out about is he would quote he would do something about Google and interview with Bloomberg's editor in chief, which I was talking about.
Trump was asked about the DHS recent proposal to possibly break up Google, which he initially responded with a rant about a lawsuit against Virginia election officials when press again, Trump called the company a threat and that without breaking Google up, things could be more fair. This is again, he threatened in Mark Zuckerberg, you know, he said, Google has to be careful. It will shut down. He will shut it down.
JD Vance is making things up whole cloth saying that there was a that he has now said the election was stolen and that the tech companies colluded to do so without any proof. And also actually Twitter, the Twitter files show that it didn't do what all the writing said it did. But he's he's doubling down and just flat out lying, JD Vance. So any which should companies do because they at one point they're, you know, all up in the grill of tech at the same time, JD Vance is like sleeping with all of them.
I mean, not really, I don't think. But anyway, yeah, the whole thing. It's just so hilarious that a far right talking point is that they're being censored and that, you know, censorship and Senator Vance's go to in terms of a weapon mass distraction when asked about January 6 is like, will you admit that the media has been censoring Donald Trump and censored Donald, you know, censored information, press information about what was on Hunter Biden's laptop? And attempt to go look over here, I don't want to actually answer this question.
The censorship thing, the closest thing we have to really broad sweeping censorship is when the person running for president has said, I'm going to shut down Google because I don't like what they've said about me. They've been unfair to me. They've been very unfair. All the autocalls, like, all the autocalls, 40 of them are negative.
I said, that's because you're a jerk. Like, I don't think. But isn't that the definition of censorship that I am using the power of my office to try and intimidate media companies? No one's calling that censorship.
So we just entered this weird phase where I have a view of his, his disruption and chaos. I want to burn. I want to bring government down. I'm sick of a group of people consistently telling me lies, the establishment, whether it's Liz Cheney or the Democrats, I'm sick of the establishment.
I see prosperity everywhere. I don't seem to be participating in it. I'm not going to marry this guy. He's not going to be my rabbi, but I like his non-sense, hard-charging, right.
They think he's better on economics. They think he's better on the border, whether you think that's true or not. And they're just now, he's flattered the zone with so much crazy shit that people just are immune to it. I've never seen anything like it.
I don't know. It's lie after lying. I'm JD Vance. He's the most heinous liar.
He's a liar. He, to me, is the most frightening figure here because I think Trump is mentally disabled. And I think I would watch my back if I were Trump if I won this election. I'll tell you that.
Of course, the CEO who's not worried is Elon Musk. We're learning more about his donations. He made the pro-Trump super-pack he created earlier this year. Although I heard it's like a hot mass over there as I'm hoping he'll do to Trump when he did to Twitter as revenues.
He's given nearly $75 million in that super-pack, which is not very much for him since July, according to recent FEC's finds, but it matters a great deal. This money is important. He's also threatening to go to Pennsylvania and do his own things because he's a pathetic attention sponge. How much impact do you think this has?
This is a lot of money for Trump. Yeah, but to be fair, I mean, these two are a lot of good money and we have our big donors. We have Reid Hoffman. We have Bill Gates.
Bill Gates. No, I get it. Reid Hastings. I don't think she'll give him that much money, but...
I think she is secretly put on it. I'm surprised she doesn't have a picture with her in a big check. Anyways, we have our big donors. They have theirs and Trump or Musk is one of them.
That's fine. I don't see. He's allowed to do it. We have our big donors.
They have theirs. You mentioned that last night, which I thought was the idea of someone asked about how do we get them to pass legislation. And Scott immediately was like, over to him. I didn't get money on politics and pay politicians more.
Just illuminate us on that very quickly. The idea that you would say? Well, look, Citizens United, the idea that money is people and has a voice. We don't believe that in other nations.
There's government matching for elections such as good people who spent a majority of their life in public service who don't happen to be rich, have a shot at running. They don't allow political ads before certain time. Keep in mind, the UK has an election start to finish in about four weeks. I actually think it's good for the nation because all we do for 18 months is figure out how much we hate our neighbors and how much they hate us.
It's just bad for America. If there was any way to overturn Citizens United, that would be the start. Then when I heard this about, because I have a fairly positive view on my rams. I don't know much about him.
It seems so anxious. That's a shocker. We disagree. Anyway, he's indicted for...
Whoa, the Southern District. That is the call you do not want to get is the Southern District says we're coming for you. It's over plane tickets and hotels days sponsored by from the government of Turkey in exchange for him expediting fire safety, putting pressure on fire safety commissioners to approve the fire safety infrastructure at the, I think it was the Turkish embassy. It's like, Jesus Christ, such small ball.
The problem is that's something politicians do every day, but you're not supposed to do it from a foreign agent or foreign entity. That's where he's getting into trouble. I thought this is all a function of the following. Our elected representatives are hanging out with billionaires and hanging out of the most beautiful venues, but they're having trouble.
It's not easy for them to pay their credit card bills. A lot of converse people actually have roommates because they can't afford a second place to live in DC. By the way, Nancy Pelosi can trade fucking stocks after confidential hearings with defense contractors. That makes a fucking sound.
Yeah, I agree. Pay them a while. I think we pay our converse people a million bucks a year and we pay our senators two million bucks a year because these people are important. Most of them are very qualified.
Various names have a ton of opportunity costs. So pay them well and... I'm curious. I'm curious, Scott.
What would you ask for a broad from Turkey? I would not ask for a plane ticket. What would you ask for? I would ask for great seats to the European Championship in Istanbul with my son.
That's all it would take. And then I'd want to go up the boss for us. I'd want to party with some hot Turkish chicks on the roof of the Soho House in Istanbul, which is the old American embassy. I can come up with a lot.
I can come up with a lot. Yeah, I know. I felt like he didn't ask for enough. If he's going to go for bribery and get in trouble.
Look, Eric. Whatever we talk, whatever Vox asks us to do anything, we're like, oh, we'll do it. But it's going to cost you. We're hoars, but we're expensive hoars.
That's correct. I'm like, Eric, come on. You're such a... if you're getting revived, a plane ticket.
You're going to sell out. Get a jet. Get a golf drink. A plane ticket.
Like really in a hotel? Go New Jersey Senator. Go bars. Yeah.
Anyway, they're cheap. I love that. They got gold bars in his closet. I bet you have gold bars here.
No, I'm going to sit. No, I don't have any gold bars here. No, I don't have any gold bars here. But I was travel with a rough cut.
Jim stuck up my ass. More for sensory pleasure. I think you have gold. I'm going to look around for gold bars later.
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