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Ugly American Werewolf in London: Eric Clapton - Behind The Sun Reboot with Guitar Tech Lee Dickson

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In a first for us hear at The Wolf, we're rebooting a previous episode with cool, never before heard material. On Episode 221 we did our usual track by track, in-depth analysis of Eric Clapton's Behind The Sun as it turned 40. It was a bit of a return to form for Clapton after he had worked to clean himself up and went platinum after some less than stellar albums in the early 80s. Still, songs She's Waiting and Forever Man turned out to be solid hits for Eric. Warner Brothers wanted the album to be a hit so they employed the hottest man in the business at the time, Phil Collins, to take Eric and his band down to Montserrat to put together a hit. However, Warner wasn't thrilled with the results so they had Eric come to LA to cover some songs written by Jerry Lynn Williams with some of the best session musicians of the day (and of all time). Eric's longtime guitar tech, Lee Dickson, has appeared on our show a couple of times before including on Ep 242 with Alan Hunter of MTV talking about Live Aid from Philadelphia. Lee gives us some color on how things went down in Montserrat, how a young producer almost ruined a six figure Martin guitar, how Sting popped up to say hello and contribute to the sessions and how Lee taught himself to swim while everyone else was at the beach. He also sheds some light on the LA sessions that Ted Templeman oversaw and how psyched Clapton was to work with some of the world's best session musicians like Steve Lukather, Greg Phillinganes and eventual member of his touring band, Nathan East. Lee tells a hilarious story about working with songwriter Jerry Lynn Williams and the character he was. Lee talks about the cool stuff they did making the album, we offer our track by track review including songs from the sessions that didn't make the album (one track made it into Back To The Future) and at the end he gives some inside information on what he does to make his artists sound incredible and life in rock n roll. It's a special edition we think you'll love. Check out our new website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ugly American Werewolf in London Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Threads⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LInkTree⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.pantheonpodcasts.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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