EPISODE · Oct 21, 2025 · 1H 3M
Vaccine Debate and Very Loud Ladies
from The Present Illness · host Alyssa Burgart & Arghavan Salles
In this episode, Drs. Arghavan Salles and Alyssa Burgart dive into the world of vaccine misinformation, examining a debate between science communicators and anti-vaccine advocates. They explore how scientific illiteracy fuels dangerous health trends, including the current measles outbreak. The hosts then switch gears to discuss an evangelical pastor's claim that women should remain quiet and out of public life, highlighting how this rhetoric connects to broader political movements aimed at restricting women's rights and visibility. Looking for joy this week? They close with moments bringing them joy: viral pizza-tossing videos and humorous social media content that provides relief from today's challenging news cycle.Here is the Politico group chat article mentioned at the top of the show:https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/14/private-chat-among-young-gop-club-members-00592146For those who really need to know, it was Arghavan’s mumps titer that was low when she had measles, mumps, and rubella titers checked a couple of years ago.What RFK Jr actually said about the evidence on Tylenol and autism: he will “doing the studies to make the proof”The word Arghavan was trying to think of regarding the Epstein files was discharge petition, and the representative Mike Johnson refuses to swear in is Adelita Grijalva.Here is the paper on surgical referrals Arghavan mentioned:https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/sarsons/files/sarsons_jmp_01.pdfCheck out pizza wars on Tik Tok, or if you don’t have Tik Tok, check out a few videos here on Bluesky:https://bsky.app/profile/arghavansallesmd.medsky.social/post/3m3bp5n2rxs26Text us!Thanks for listening to The Present Illness! Follow us on TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube @ThePresentIllnessCreditsProduction by Arghavan Salles & Alyssa BurgartEditing by Alyssa BurgartMusic by Joseph UphoffSocial Media by Arghavan Salles
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In this episode, Drs. Arghavan Salles and Alyssa Burgart dive into the world of vaccine misinformation, examining a debate between science communicators and anti-vaccine advocates. They explore how scientific illiteracy fuels dangerous health trends, including the current measles outbreak. The hosts then switch gears to discuss an evangelical pastor's claim that women should remain quiet and out of public life, highlighting how this rhetoric connects to broader political movements aimed at re...
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