What's up and welcome back to the kind of funny games cast of course I am Tim Getty's I'm joined by the new face of video games Blessing at a oh, yeah, junior what's up, Tim the nitro rifle Andy Cortez good afternoon, and joining us for the very first time It is a very special guest my favorite Nintendo youtuber. Oh, Andreas restarts I'm honored. I'm happy to be on a talk in town with you guys today Dude, I'm very excited to have you This is a pretty unique experience for me because we've had a ton of guests on the show over the years But this is probably the very first time that I just reached out to Andreas yesterday Just like yo you want to join for the show we want to do a Nintendo topic I feel like you'd be right. I've been watching him for the last couple months I went down this rabbit hole where a video was recommended to me of like switch to theories and I was like I want to see what people are talking about sometimes algorithm works sometimes Dude and real talk I just want to let everybody know right now It's very rare that I do this but I wanted to really really give this guy a shout out because he does incredible work Nintendo videos every single day that are well researched you put the effort in I'm so impressed Everybody should go subscribe over youtube.com slash Andre's restart right now He's at 33.4 thousand subscribers, but I've been watching the video so I know you're doing the push to 50k So let's do that there.
Let's let's try to make that all happen Because yeah, really really really good stuff. Um, so nails. Yeah, real talk I just want to say thank you for making great content. I've been joining a lot over the last couple months No, I appreciate that.
I do like it. Yeah, so what's what about this is this? We had ever spoke? This is the first time we're just throwing you into all this but I think it's gonna be a fun conversation So thank you very much for joining us.
They'll be linked in the description to his YouTube channel So go check that out. Um, but is this the video we're watching is this an intro or is this the actual video? It's just like background footage that I'm talking about um because some articles came out last night about Switch to and apparent like there are some people like digital foundry put out a podcast where he said switch to may not have DLA which is a deep learning accelerator, which is supposed to help DLSS like that whole magic is supposed to make like like switch to like up skill to 4k and do ray tracing and stuff like that So there's kind of make like a little bit of doom and gloom so I put out a video saying well It may not be as bad as it sounds like if this rumors true the other rumors about the breath of the wild tech demo and the matrix I'm also probably voting well for this system. I asked because the video that was playing I believe was the we you like Zelda Yes, tech demo and yeah every single time I see that video.
I'm like, why did we not get that? Like it looks so I forgot how good that look. Yeah, I mean before we even get into the ring well What do you think about that? Do you think what do you think comes from that?
Do we see something on switch to that is in that style? So I've actually been kind of on the like the hype train of like a Zelda remake and there are some rumors But I was like I'm not saying the only person to talk about this I feel like it feels like Senate kind of comes up every couple years like man What if Nintendo went back to that tech demo or would have been to like read it? I mean a time like on an AC console and a point I've been trying to make to people like let's just ignore rumors There are some rumors right but like just ignoring rumors because you know this slippery slope But so Nintendo has kind of always done when they end a console generation within you was all the game We got tears of Kingdom this year, right? What happens in that first year year and a half They put out some other type of Zelda.
It's not a new Zelda game But it's some kind of like enhanced Zelda to kind of bring in the Zelda fanbase So like for example with the we they ended up with Skyward Sword So what did we get in the first year? We got when we created on the DS the last year we got spirit tracks So when we get in the first year for 3DS we got our dream time 3D you can even go back to the N64 a game-cube transition with that year 2000 we got my doors mask and then That one's a little bit of a later window But Wind waker came out December 2001 Japan so it wasn't that much more to wait Like they try and get something Zelda out early for the system because tears of Kingdom took like over half a decade Can you imagine waiting over five years for another Zelda game on a tells new system that supposedly is coming out next year? So that's kind of the argument of making that we're probably gonna get some kind of Zelda goodness in that first year or two year of A switch to oh yeah, I'm gonna tide us over something that doesn't have to reinvent the wheel you know to me I love that they could tide us over might be an awkward of time remade Yeah, that was the tired thing ever and speculation right so we don't know what they're gonna do But yeah, I'm optimistic. I think Jeff Robles talking Oh Jeff Rob has been talking about like the what was it Twilight Princess?
What one of those ports happening sometime during the switch and I think the thought process was that it could have maybe happened this year But because tears the Kingdom is out this year like the Nintendo's holding it for a year where they have a bit more space So they can actually release it to hold people over I hope it's not that though I hope it's not just a remaster Twilight or winner. I hope it is like a real good that too I know what you got to for sure and so I'm not gonna remake it in 2024 or 2025 would be sick. So yeah, yeah Yeah, I mean people say we got the remake on 3DS, but that was like that came out Like a day 2011 yeah like a long time ago like the ocketyne on the original came out 98 So we waited what 13 years to get that remaster. I think it's technically considered a remaster And so we're almost at a point where it's been almost as long.
Yeah, it's kind of crazy And what's crazy to was thinking about those the 3DS era remasters are so interesting because they're tied to that system Like we're not really gonna see those sported because the dual screens and all that stuff But ocarina and star Fox and Majora's mask like those are kind of like the definitive versions of those games And they're like trapped on the 3DS because of all that so I do think that we will see ocarina again And it's pretty exciting to think that it could be now Yeah, there you go But this is the kind of funny games cast where each and every week we get together to talk about video games and all the things That we love about them You can watch it on youtube.com slash kind of funny games or you can watch it on roosterteeth.com You can also get as a podcast by searching your favorite podcast service for kind of funny games cast and we will be right there For you if you want to go above and beyond though you got to go to patreon.com slash kind of funny We can get the show ad free you can watch it live as it's recorded and you get a whole bunch of bonus content Just like our patreon producers Jackson Hampton and Delaney twining are able to do today We're brought to you by drafting sports, but but we'll get to that later. We have a topic of the show today This one is a question pulled from kind of funny games daily Lesson I were on last week talking about a whole bunch of things and squidty witty groaned Got a shot out Basically with a hundred minds we would say and I'll be Friday with the release of super Mario RPG I figured we could reflect on Nintendo's 2023 overall I've also thrown in the Metacritic score for each game just for some perspective Zelda tears the kingdom out of 96 Metroid primary mastered out of 94 So my brothers wonder at a 92 Xenoblade 3 future redeemed at a 92 Pikmin 4 at an 87 Super Mario RPG remake at an 84 Advanced Wars 1 and 2 reboot camp at 82 bayon at origins So raisa and the lost demon at 81 fire Emblem engage at 80 Kirby's return to dream line deluxe at 79 Why are you aware? Move it at 75 detect the Pikachu returns at 66? Everybody 1 2 switch I'm 56 do you think 2023 was overall a good year for Nintendo?
What score at a 10 would you give them and do you think their output of games in 2024 will be like this? Andre's I want to start with you. What do you think about Nintendo's 2023? So, you know, I think everyone's opinion on this kind of differs depending on what you think is happening next year So I'll just tell you I think switching's coming out next year Like I'm pretty adamant about that obviously never know for sure But with that in mind I look at this year is like a last full year switch And I just kind of find myself very impressed because some people see this line up and like all there's no way in the Tennels gonna have a new system next year like they're still doing really good now Like tears of the kingdom that game sold like almost what 20 million copies.
It's one of the highest review games It's incredible right but even like outside of games We have the Mario movie, you know that was just insane to have that and we opened up the year with fire Emblem engage Which is a pretty good game and then we had two other games and we had to other games and we turn the dream on deluxe and then Metropiring master, which is one of my favorite things ever. So I mean it's pretty much every month has been pretty good We had like maybe like a slight lull after Pikmin 4 but now they you know they back-to-back You know months we have Mario Wonder and the Mario RPG and there's been some solid DLC You know the chronicles is that future team DLC just impressive like I look at the whole lineup and you know You could argue that this year compares favorably to pretty much every other year switch and this might be like that last full year So for me, I mean I just been enjoying Nintendo all year I haven't had time to play other games on other consoles because I focused on making Nintendo content right But like I want to go play all the ring and resume for remake I just haven't had the time to because Nintendo keeps putting out stuff that I got it that I got to play and it's good stuff I just finished Mario Wonder But they kind of you know just give you like like a score right want to go for a score out of 10. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I would say At least an eight I'm not there with you I think eight is where I would land as well I feel like the cadence of releases especially when you look at it laid out like this It's pretty damn impressive and it being so late into the switch's life cycle having the back-to-back or not back-to-back But the book ending dangers of a Zelda game Mario game both being so damn like they did it They understood the assignment and they pulled it off Metroid primary master being something that we've wanted for so long for it to come out and just simply deliver like the experience on Switch I think is the optimal way to play that game and we're talking about one of the best games ever made I'm blessed you actually played it for the very first time and I like and it's one of the best games ever made I guess it's pretty incredible still in 2023.
Yeah, so like that that I think's really cool And even looking ahead at what we're building towards in 2024 I feel like there's still releases that are gonna keep us playing the switch and keep us interested like sure They might not have been every single month like a big tent poll game That's gonna speak to everybody, but that's never really been Nintendo's bag So I feel like overall this is definitely like one of my favorite years of the switch But I yeah, so I still would give it an eight But that's mainly just based on the fact that like it's hard to do attend these days Yeah, that's my thing is like I think I might be in the area of maybe giving it a 10 right like I think I can feel pretty strong about a 9 I think the thing that's making almost lean towards a 10 is that I don't know how you could have a Better year you talk about book ending the year with like you had a bang or Zelda at the top of it You had a big Mario and once you said that I was like yeah, I guess Mario RPG has been great And I forgot that Mario wonder came out sure you're right and it's like dude you have yeah a mainline Mario game or a main Like to be Mario game that is reinventing what to be Mario can be that is injecting a lot of new energy into to Mario You have Zelda tears the kingdom which I think a lot of people could argue as a generational game If not even like an all-timer in terms of what that game brings the table you have my Troy Prime remastered Which is bringing my trip prime forward not just like a it's not just up res right? It is you know like they went in there read read it to the assets Made actually feel a bit more modern and like for me is my first time playing through that game felt like such an incredible experience They were the twin stick controls is what you know, yeah, they feel a bit better right like and you go through the list and you know I mentioned like month to month, you know, maybe having a bank or a bank or a but like you count up all these games and it is From first party Nintendo. Oh, yeah, I'm like you all kept up Like this is a pretty solid cadence of releases. I was even thinking about about it that way at the top of the year But yeah, we started off with Fire Emblem engage I think that for a fire room game didn't set the world on fire the way that three houses did but I feel like it was still I still fire them.
I guess that's me. Go for it. No, I'm just gonna say fire I'm just solid start to the year at least yeah, yeah, so I'm sure I think that is where for me that it kind of comes in with both Fire Emblem engaged not being my favorite core fire Emblem game by a long shot and With Kirby coming out with the turn of dream land which I it's fine But it's like it's a portable weekend whatever was last year Kirby's forgotten land like I love that game And I feel like it had that in three houses been here Yes, that's if you would have been a ten out of ten year whereas this I do feel like there were a couple too many Fire Emblem engaged type titles and all this to say like none of us here plays You know played so after we hear Andy talk I'd love to hear what you have to say about that the DLC for three, but Andy what would you get this year? Yeah, they made a Mario movie and it wasn't ass like that alone like when the voice cast came out for this We all audibly cracked up and were like there's no way this movie will be anywhere near good I don't think it was like a very I don't think it was an awesome movie But you know like I enjoyed all the fans every stuff I enjoyed the soundtrack But it you know I still kept thinking like man.
I wish the Lego movie team worked on this and you know those directors Bill Lord and stuff like that, but I I mean I kind of forget that Pikmin 4 came out and a lot of people loved it Yeah, we slept on Pikmin 4 like that game came out and people were like hey everybody needs to check this shit out And we kind of didn't because there's a lot of other stuff happening. I think if you switch out Maybe wonder with Mario Odyssey releases. I think that would make it like a full 10 2017 yeah, yeah, exactly yeah, exactly, but tears of the Kingdom. I think tears of the Kingdom coming out and Making everybody blown away again like that's When I think back to all of the other big sequels that have come out There's always a yeah, but it kind of like it lacks the magic It's hard to recreate the way that I felt when I first played that game and this did it perfectly and way more in my opinion Like I thought breath of water was like the standard for what open world exploration should be and then to the Kingdom Just came out and just knock that shit away I was like how about this and let's add all these extra mechanics and for the people saying like oh It's the same app.
It's like I don't fucking remember the map anyway I played a hundred hours in an underground. I put a hundred hours I forgot everything about it, but yeah the sky the underground all of the different mechanics and everything added to it I think that alone That I think this is like as close to a 10 as you can be for me especially with the surprises of Mario RPG remake being somebody that nobody thought would happen along with the dreams Yeah, along with along with Metroid Prime remaster I like I think we I was under the impression that Metroid Prime one remastered was going to be just an up-res Yeah, we put it you'll get it in 1080 60 But you know the textures will be maybe like kind of up-res But models are all gonna be very similar but them up-ret you know just completely kind of remaking the game just like blue-pointed with demon Souls, I think that's also another nice big surprise and Yeah, I mean this is as close to a ten as you can be for me It's like unless they would have put out You know Oracle of Seasons or ages remake in that Link's Awakening remake style Then it would have been a deadlock ten for me Yeah, I think the last part of the question talking about do we think 2024 can live up to what this year is right Like I often talk about 2024 being the year where we're seeing the four deadly horsemen of the switch that are signaling the life cycle This was ending right like we're getting a princess peach Showtime game. We're getting like a we just mentioned Yes, poor right like when they see the groundhog and like I got four weeks of winter Yeah, I like we're getting more you're the switch. We got Mario versus Donkey Kong coming out I'm like, okay.
Yeah, this which is ending but you still like I think this stuff still is fun Like the I know plenty people love what we mentioned and the princess peach game looks like a cell Like I think you and you are on the line of like yo, I really hope this does like the same thing as Kirby Frick in the forgotten land Where it comes out it's surprising it's cute and has a lot of new energy and is a lot of fun I think what is gonna hit what 2024 is gonna hinge on because I you know I'm right there with you in terms of this next year being the year we get the switch You know, I think Andre's on the right track there and based on all the reports and based on just we're at in the life cycle I think it has to be fall 2024. I'll be surprised we get to fall 24 We don't have hints of a switch to but if that happens I think it'll be on the launch launch late like once that launch lineup look like I think it has to have either a new 3d Mario or Metroid Prime 4 or like I don't think it's time for a new Zelda right unless it is like a Zelda ocarina Or something crazy like that But I think that lineup is gonna have to be a banger and so I mean a Mario Kart maybe a new market who knows But I think this year is gonna be a tough one to live up to in my opinion Yeah, it's gonna be yeah the switch to that does change the game But what I'm really loving about Nintendo right now and understand like you could speak to this as well is how seriously They're taking getting remakes right like they're not just remaking a game like we've seen before like even just remaster like you bring it up Metroid Prime that love and care given to it to my RPG like it's a revelation I can't believe how much they kept the spirit of the original and links awakening I think another good example like that game might not have ran perfectly but everything else about it was so so good And it like took the heart and soul of the game boy game, but like made it feel like a new adventure seen the Mario vs Donkey Kong I know that's Roger staying not so much like some of us here But like that looks like it should look like it really looks like they're putting the loving care into a fist fighting the streets The biggest thing for me is Paper Mario in the thousand-year door Oh, we're getting that next year and after playing Mario RPG and seeing how much they nailed it looking forward to thousand-year door Seeing that trailer. I'm still in disbelief that it's happening. Like what do you think about that address?
It's the stuff of dreams like they're kind of doing the things that we kind of fantasize years They would do like I I know for a fact like three years ago Like how many like speculations and discussions I've had all like what if it did thousand-year door and they remade that like What if they remade Paper Mario like not Paper Mario but Mario RPG and they've done both right? I'm not sure primary mastered like I mean as you said like it it it looked Like we kind of expected maybe something more simplistic But once we start getting those rumors It was gonna be like a big boy remaster and then it was a big boy remaster Like some people call it a remake for how good it looks like I'm doing something right with this and it's kind of interesting because I do think that The ratio of remakes and remasters were getting now kind of greatly outweighs what it was before which to me It's just kind of a sign that hey the main teams are working on their next-gen projects But they're doing these other stuff that's gonna be fun for us to play and tie tight us over and it doesn't it's not a bad thing Like that was in your door. I'm that's I'm extremely high for that and as you guys kind of like talked about like this year has a lot of really fun stuff Mar RPG like I started playing it this weekend It just kind of feels magical to me like it's really drawing me in and like it's kind of like it's funny Because like when you talk about like Nintendo like there's always like the talking point like oh like you know I'm telling care about graphics I think that's a little misleading because we the title fans do it until just try to create beautiful games That's just not the sole priority and like playing Mar RPG just seeing what the day with the visuals It's really helping me helping to draw me in I mean I'm kind of like really feeling extremely immersed into like this adventure like it's cool about the like Mario 3D 3.0 Mario series They kind of show like more of an expanded view of the mushroom kingdom and so like that's really exciting to me and as I'm playing Mar RPG even though it's just a remake of a super Nintendo game like I'm being taken back to my childhood It's pretty exciting. Yeah, I mean like it being a remake of the super Nintendo game that had such a defined art style Like it's rare that I'll grab these guys be like you need to fucking look at this I'm not so much gaming from our RPG I did it to both of them of like look how pretty this is the OLED also takes to the next level like there I can be blown away by visuals and I'm such a sucker for playing the trailers after that big announcement on a big TV and just to kind of get the Full get the full effect of it But that game doesn't compare to like on a YouTube trailer on a monitor or TV Then it does to like playing it in your hand on switch It looks so clean and so good and that's why I've always felt so so strong about like the core Mario teams And even though that wasn't necessarily a core Mario team They work on like the dragon quest games or whatever But when you look at like still going back to something like Mario Odyssey like that No, of course that switch can't necessarily keep up with the power of other consoles So they're not gonna give you 60 frames per second at 1080p or whatever But I mean they kind of remind me of what Miyazaki and from software do where it's like hey We don't have the engine to do all to facilitate all of those needs But we're gonna blow you away with art style Yeah, our direction is next to none and it's wild still wild to me the way Mario Wonder looks even on like playing on my monitor Which is like you know it's a 1440p monitor 27 inch.
It's like dude. This looks I can't believe this looks at this good and it's running on a switch and then If we're talking about dream 2024 like a Pokemon game that doesn't look like it's been rushed Like that's what I really really want because then you go back and look at Pokemon It's like these are different consoles These are different teams working at different paces obviously because Mario Wonder looks one way Mario RPG looks just as incredible Even though sometimes choose of the kingdom can run into performance issues It's still Gorgeous with its art direction and the pokemon games are always just lacking a little bit too much and that's like That's their assassin's creed. That's their like that's their call of duty They gotta pump those out and like just wait a bit man because you could really fucking nail it It's the very like specific thing of Nintendo with the switch where Nintendo cares a lot about the charm of the games and like The look of them right and just in the stylistic sense Not necessarily the fidelity sense because I think this is also I just love that there are multiple Companies doing this thing right where you know, I play PlayStation and I play God of War and I look at the fidelity and like the set Pieces and you know a good crazy magic fog. Yeah, and it's like his nipples got them like goosebumps on it Yeah, and it's like, you know, I do that on my PlayStation I do that on my PC right but then I come to Nintendo and it very much is charm style personality all this stuff Not saying that you know people aren't doing the PlayStation but Nintendo focuses so much on that and I think one that's because that's the Nintendo ethos That's what they put front and center like that's the thing that they focus on the most But then also yeah, like it is part of the working within the limitations of what the switch can do And I think because that that pushes them to have to be better And because that also you look at the history of Nintendo games and so many Nintendo games even on the older consoles look great Like look at a ps2 game made by like a third party developer and even by PlayStation.
It's like, okay This is age looks ugly. Look at a Mario game from the GameCube Mario still looks fantastic even Mario 64 There's a charm that you have in those games because of the colors because of the vibrancy and that's because Nintendo is able to that's because they're We'll do that because they're focusing in on the art style. Let's make something that age as well That doesn't necessarily have to focus on pushing the technology. We just want to push what we can do with our creativity But even then sometimes the creative creativity comes from a very specific push forward in something technical I think a good example that is Star Fox Adventures on the GameCube where they focus so much on Fox's fur And like they came up with new technologies so that he would look as furry as possible And it's like that allows that game to be a little more timeless Like it's a weird thing where that does sound more in theory like a PlayStation or Xbox type of ideology But because it was a focused thing or like Mario Sunshine the water tech that they had like the focus on it's like tech that backs up their art decisions I think it's a big thing for Nintendo Yeah, and so like I'm excited to see what they do with the switch to because yeah like the talk of how are you stepping this thing forward That's one of the reports are talking about the DLSS type stuff right like the Like machine learning is that right deep learning super sampling?
So like is like specifically in video right? Yeah, that's an invide detecting and then AMD uses their fsr But so under this this more most recent report from digital foundry Is that like within the last couple of days because I was just talking about a week and a half ago Yeah, I'm recommending the video where they're like hey, we have this del vostro laptop Um, these are kind of comparable to the specs that were rumored about what the switch to may have let's see what games run on it and granted You know nintendo's gonna make do their magic with making tears of the kingdom work with all those physics simulations happening on that chipset Was this like a more recent video so the podcast was yesterday. Okay, gotcha They may have been talking about that video like because that's what digital foundry likes to do They you know they'll take like speculative specs and try and simulate how it may or may not work You know, I mean that doesn't take you to account like because I mean we assume that whatever they're doing the switch to It's gonna be kind of like specialized right now. I have some extra little bells and whistles It'll help it to kind of push a little bit above its weight Yeah, there's gonna be a lot of proprietary stuff in there because even right now if you were to take the chipset inside of You're gonna take that like cell phone tegris chips at the inside of the switch right now It would not be able to do the same thing in like a android tablet, you know It's different Yeah, there's something that happens when when it's made into a console and that the tiger That's one like that's like what they say it's like off the shelf right like that minimal kind of changes Like I guess the idea was to that they they now know that this partnership is gonna work And they've probably spent like actually a few years like focusing on the r&d for this thing But yeah, the the digital foundry podcast where like those reports came out about it.
Maybe not being so good First off just to clarify. I think that was kind of a little bit exaggerated. Um, but the podcast came out yesterday. Okay gotcha I'm gonna keep talking about all this.
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I just want to experience these switch games The way I may have experienced them through like illegal forms It's like I like when you see the way these games look at 4k or 1440p running at 60 frames It's like oh man like this is possible And I just I want this life for me and it's weird because like no I don't really necessarily need the most cutting edge visuals I want this I want Pokemon to not stutter. I want links and we can remake to not start I don't like the jaggy's on the character models You know what I mean like when you see like what's a deal I laid as and that's deep learning anti-aliasing and that's Yeah, yeah, I want the edges to be smooth. That's my main complaint because I feel like I see that That's a software level. That's like that's the engineers saying like well We can turn Anti-aliasing off and it's gonna give everything a sharp edge or whatever depending on how good your monitor is Depending if you have like an adequate monitor, but then anti-aliasing make you know smooth out the edges as best possible It is interesting to look at the history of Nintendo and it's games It's art styles and then it's hardware and software limitations and like there's a way to say but like the hardware limitations of the software So cartridges or gamecube smaller discs, right?
Like they always just make we call them WND's here weird Nintendo decisions, where it's like why would you like why? Why do you need to be different just to like whatever? As we said that they've been making some great decisions about four years ago every game daily Those like a WND bomb drop in a yeah But it is interesting to look at like sometimes those decisions really pay off like the we obviously being a shining example of that of like them Doing something against the grain but it working But when you look at the transitions as Nintendo's tried to either try to not try to keep up with the competitors technically the jump from Sd to hd they were so much later than everyone else because the ps3 and 360 was hd wasn't until the Wii U that we got hd So when we look at new Super Mario Brothers Wii compared to new Super Mario Brothers Wii U It's funny that like Mario Wonder and Mario Wii U The art style wonders way better and all that it doesn't necessarily it's not technically that much better It doesn't need it the games both run flawless right and that's kind of the magic of Nintendo It's like they just if with good art direction and great game design If the right tech like Andy's the point Andy was making where it's like if the tech is just enough to support that as well They need the game's gonna be exactly what it needs to be you look at Smash Brothers Brawl Which is hideous You know what I mean like parts of it are great I do love the dark grim art style it has for how we eaters all the denim Um, but then you compare it to like Smash Brothers Wii U or Smash Brothers Ultimate and it's like those games might as well be the same Right. I mean literally it's always like are but like graphically I could not be more impressed with Smash Ultimate like I don't need it to look any better.
I don't need it to run any better So I just want to see that be true for all of the franchises Not just a handful of them But I do think we're getting close to the point that like we're really not asking much Nintendo Give us something that works. Yeah, and they also kind of stick with a more stylistic approach to art You're you're never really gonna see an ultra realistic character in a Nintendo game And I don't think that's ever been there Been something that they're trying to achieve right like everything always kind of has a sort of cartoony look or Even when they do like I think the most realistic human I've seen in a Nintendo game is Sam is a Metroid Prime remake when she picks her helmet off It's like oh wow. I wasn't kind of expecting that out of this I was like maybe like a Fortnite character It's like I was expecting kind of something a bit more stylistic, but yeah, like I I don't know if I've ever Maybe maybe the switches your main console and that's where you play like all your third parties Maybe you want a more powerful chipset, but maybe play some third party games that look a bit more realistic So what's interesting there is if the rumors are to be believed one of the tech demos was the matrix demo And like that's I think very non-Nintendo That's a very interesting specific thing of like that is as realistic as you possibly get and is that them I'm just showing off the tech of it because that that demo is incredibly impressive No matter where you're looking at it Or is that kind of trying to woo in the third parties to potentially Finally be the time where it's like hey from day one the third parties are gonna be there I don't think so you look at the Wii U and it's like that did not work Even though the whole Wii launch was focused around like look he's actually supporting us I remember I'm sitting here in the Arkham City Yeah, totally like they made such a big deal about that which is so funny and hindsight Yeah, like I want to look up we talk about this on KHD all the time We talk about sales numbers and we talk about the sales numbers but the revenue that Nintendo makes off of first party versus the revenue that comes in The amount of the user base that plays third party games on the platform like first party way outweighs the third party stuff In a way where it's like yo Nintendo games could be the only thing that come out on the Nintendo platform and it'd be fine like it would be business as usual and it makes me wonder if Nintendo really does care on that level Right like I think the stuff that they're doing for the for the power and the fidelity of whatever the next console is is more So just for yeah, like third party sure but I think also Yeah, like what if we wanted to like take breath the wild and have it looking better Right, what if we wanted to have like our old games and make them like what are the things that we can do for us to make Evolve it a bit smoother also to keep up with the times as we're getting left behind in terms of the Power race or whatever it is um, but yeah, like it makes me wonder what is going to be the selling point of the next switch Because I for Nintendo it has to be something different power I don't think they've ever used power as a selling point it is always we're jumping to 3d with a 64 or you know, it's like a suitcase A weapon Yeah, like motion troll or like a little TV with the wheel like there's always some weird shit that they're doing with their console and Even like you know, Tim you mentioned that um, you know, it's easy right like it's so straightforward what we want from Nintendo That makes me think they're gonna do like the weirdest shit of all time So it's really interesting about that is like I mean, they're not wrong because the wnd's will keep coming But I do think we're in a different point that Nintendo has kind of proven itself with where I mean clearly I need to tell you guys the switches of success we understand that but I was watching one of our videos breaking down on the switch sales Like year to year and like one thing that I was kind of surprised by and maybe I shouldn't have been is that 2023 is the highest uh sales year of the switch besides 2020 fucking shit with Animal Crossing coming out on the pandemic and all that stuff And it's like that's really damn impressive to think about in terms of like how that's correct, right? Um, not in terms of hardware sales, but software it's pretty impressive like yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah software sales are insane and like that is so they are clearly winning And I think that is a difference where obviously they've already said they're gonna keep in nintendo account Your switch is gonna continue on they're gonna want to keep people in this lifecycle and keep supporting this which they've done before you look at the 3ds And the ds and literally every Nintendo system.
They always support it like there was gba games coming out after the ds came out You know what I mean? There was always they do more support than uh than some of the competitors potentially Um, but I think the difference when you look at the switch and the ways it's had success In fact that it's software is this successful both sales wise and critically that's what they were lacking on the we so the we had the hardware sales The we had the the hearts and minds of the general public but like they pretty quickly lost the core gamer, right? They had Twilight Princess was my galaxy my galaxy too, but then otherwise it was we sports That's the story of the we right you get to the we you and it's like way more of a dire situation where the we had hit after hit up or hit Which we're now seeing with the switch right with all the ports, but man, let me tell you a thing We could not keep we fit on the shelves of s bios crazy, bro I'm you know what man we couldn't bless you. Let me tell you man These old ladies were walking in every goddamn day asking for a we feel like we don't have the we fit I'm sorry man.
I'm not right there's sold out everywhere right now and then that quickly kind of went away So I allegedly had a friend that might have allegedly hacked my we and allegedly gave me access to Allegedly every weekend and he still couldn't keep me on that thing I was looking at a full library. I was like, I guess I'll play nowhere here again. Oh, no I think one allegedly covers you for the whole statement Um, but I was just gonna say that like the we was a crazy time It was like that lightning in a bottle which is a great point you bring about switch Like if this feels like something where they have that same level of hardware success It's not actually more so but the software it's not just like the you know the the we fits or what what have you It's it's like their core Nintendo games like most Nintendo franchises has seen their best selling games ever on Nintendo And this feels like something there's a crazy part that they can continue to do exactly And that's that's why I think the next switch can't and doesn't need to be some crazy gimmick It is just give us more of what we have because they're they're set up to just knock it down because not only do they have the hardware sales Do they have the software sales they do have the core games reviewing? Well, the zelda's and marios and Metroid dread things like that like yeah major wins all their franchises are doing best on switch But they also have ringfoot adventure which again such a surprise We're all experts right now when they announced that we're just like all right nintendo And then look at us egg on our face that game is incredible sold so well continues to sell so I paid almost triple the price over pandemic They just didn't my closet right now You know there's always like these numbers that are kind of impossible to attain But I really I'm so fascinated by the animal crossing crowd in 2020 And I'm so fascinated and interested to learn what the kind of Retention rate is from the people that just bought animal crossing on switch And then moved on to other things and then discovered other avenues of gaming You know talk about like what could launch like the big launch that'll be for switch And we always talk about mario and zelda.
I wonder if it could be an annual crossing You know crossing I think with the which do with new horizons it's been what It'll be four years by the time we get to a little bit more than four years And I think now like nintendo probably looks at animal crossing in the same breath of a mario or zald but definitely bigger than zelda right? Like i think the mainstay now Yeah, I don't know if it'll come out next I mean We don't know about a lot of these things right but I feel like there's a really you'd be making a really good bet To say that nintendo's gonna get both mario cart and animal crossing the two best selling switch games out within the first two years of switch Like I think that makes so much sense. So if not 2024 I'd say I would say 2025 is a pretty good bet A new animal crossing that's exclusive to the new switch platform. Oh, that's selling so many hard Mario cart too like that that's the thing i saw bared bringing up in the chat earlier that like when we're talking about this year in games We do need to bring up the fact that so much mario cart content has been released that was great And it's done like mario cartic deluxe is a finished product now that um has Double the amount of content it launched with and like it's so damn impressive to think about that And it's weird to me that that while that happened This is the first month since the game launched that it's not in the top 20 sales of the top top 20 best selling games of the month I got two questions first question if at launch right hypothetically at the launch of the new nintendo console They release both mario cart a new mario cart and a new animal crossing on day one Which which over the span of the lifecycle of the console sells more that's first question second question Does nintendo end up actually supporting these things in the way that we see a lot of live services nowadays, right?
I think we've gotten it down with mario cart with all the new ways of dlc But do they do that for anal crossing as well because anal crossing had that cut off after a couple years of when they stopped supporting it Do we see them take it at the finish line this next time around and support it over the course of a whole generation? I think if the numbers are there maybe but they gotta be there though, you know Like there's no way that I do anal crossing launches and the numbers aren't there See okay. I I don't think you'll ever see animal crossing sell as much as it did back in the day And that's only because of I think that's such a special circumstance or very unspecial very sad circumstances And like unique yeah very unique and I think animal crossing will still do well and be among one of the top So I don't think it'll ever touch what happened with the animal crossing horizon That was just like unprecedented for that to happen my argument is that because I know like the people in chat too Or saying like you everybody was at home at different time. I think those people Like the people that came in for animal crossing are converted into gamers now, right?
Like I think there are in the nintendo fan base and I also think it speaks to like such a wide variety of gamers Well, right like I think the people are playing mario cart and it is families it is gamers are playing mario cart as well Right like there's a wide audience there in a crossing is like, you know There's such like a casual audience that that speaks to it's like the same way in which like stargu valley and like a lot of like these Life some games blow up. I think animal crossing has a market so cornered that I think it might be I think like another one has potential to like maybe even do just as well over time My pushback would be like uh even though like we sports did really well Like how did the we sports after that first one came out like how well did those two and then the other thing especially this thing's coming out in the first Year Um like the amount of switches that were already out in the wild by the time animal crossing came out like was already unprecedented with just like How much the console blew up we're talking about the first year of a switch to like how well is that going to do in its first year Compared to I think You put on the new one just to sell the new one don't even put on yeah I don't know it's kind of um It's one of those things we're kind of waiting to see how many times I handle it Um, I feel like you'll be very Nintendo to just have folks like they're gonna have I think backwards compact. I'm pretty sure backwards compatibility is gonna be a thing But I kind of I've been leaning more towards they're gonna just have exclusives Um, so I'm not sure on that but I do kind of agree that like at least for like mario cart Yeah, like mario cart that's gonna probably come out soon It's gonna sell really well. I think mario cart will outsell animal crossing um regardless of like what kind of audience is carrying over because I mean mario cart has still be animal crossing now, right?
Um But um, I do also feel like at least with mario cart Nintendo is probably gonna like support it for a longer amount of time Like I think they saw how successful the booster course pass was I mean like mario cart has been iterated upon since 2014 So like I think they've seen that that can be successful for that so getting it out early and put it like supporting with deal Seeing stuff for years to come and things like that idea I hope they do that for animal crossing as well. I'm not as confident they will Um, and I think I raised a good point like and like andy We're saying like because animal crossing came out during the whole pandemic situation that that was like A unique circumstance, but at the same time you look at how animal crossing has gotten bigger and bigger over the years Like animal crossing was killer on 3ds. Yeah, and then it became even more killer on switch So I don't know if it's guaranteed that the next animal crossing will beat um what new horizons But I bet you it'll at least beat the 3ds one Um, and I still think we're gonna see like positive growth of the franchise overall Yeah, I think at the end of the day the top two selling games from the next platform are gonna be mario cart inel crossing I wouldn't be surprised. I think that that's that's a very very fair assessment And I think that like I I think the next animal crossing is going to absolutely kill I don't know that it will reach the heights of this one just because of the pandemic and everything that we're talking about But I do think that the percentage of people not everyone was converted to be a gamer But when you look at the software attach rate to the switch like anytime these branches are coming out Like there are more gamers playing than ever playing Nintendo games or more Nintendo fans than they've ever been I don't know.
They're still used like I got I don't really exact like ratio But like it's like over 90 percent of like switches bought or like still used in the last year Which is kind of like crazy to me it really is I think another stat Is the Nintendo switch online subscriptions 38 million people are subscribed to Nintendo switch online That is a revenue stream for Nintendo that they are going to want to keep fostering and keep Beating to be able to get that recurring revenue and that's why mario credit DLC happened the way that it did It is such a it's a good weird Nintendo decision that they did that Yeah, I'm shocked that years later they decided oh yeah DLC from Mario Kart now is the time But in retrospect looking back when we see the number 38 million it's like oh shit Okay, like that's the strategy that's worth the investment into all of that to keep it going I don't think every single game can do that Mario Kart definitely is animal crossing the right way to get that recurring revenue from people And I'm with bless I think I think that that is definitely a battle pass It's like it's a little piss people off because I think that's a fear and if anybody understands that fear it is Nintendo like Nintendo isn't The I was gonna say they're not they're not the kind of nickel and don't you though They'll never give you a discount on their first party games But they also won't like over microtransaction their games It's why I do think that yeah like an animal crossing over time if it is hey if you're sub to the Nintendo switch online You get I think they'll probably be in after other games right like you get a Mario house I don't play enough animal crossing on how we do it Like a Zelda couch and shit like that Yeah, I guess I mentioned other game though smash I think should be in that same conversation with mark or animal crossing because it's like a multiplayer game that involves a lot of people It's extremely popular as well Like I think that makes sense to also be combo with with switch online to maybe like the whatever they do for smash on next system Be a fire's past volume three or jalux or whatever it is that DLC I think should be on in a sew I Want to go back to the notion of whether they would have these games be backwards compatible and how The switch to may have the exclusives or whatever the only reason why I think that they would make the consumer friendly choice of having this backwards compatibility is like I think just for some reason just the idea that they're making movies To me is like this is a different nintendo than nintendo of five years ago. I feel like they're just in a different Mindspace as far as business goes and I think that they know that Obviously they sell a lot of hardware, but software is also kind of their bread and butter If they have a lot of skews out there in the wild Then that's kind of the decision that they need to make and for some like I don't think they would have done that back in the day I mean we already you've mentioned the exclusive on that I mean we're talking about Um You know majors mask being exclusive to the 3ds with a little nub on it or whatever the hell you know like that only worked on certain pieces of hardware Right like not majors mask but a kid Icarus uprising right No Not definitive edition, but it was the other chronicles 3d and I don't think that went over well Yeah, it's one of those weird things where even back in the day like it's not like what color is I think the best example Right, it's like new hardware that had exclusive games, but was also backwards compatible for all the other ones Yeah, I enhanced when we say it back was patable. We're talking about the new switch being able to play old games, right? Yeah, oh, yeah, for sure.
Yeah, but also talking about the old switch being able to know I mean the old switch playing new games Like so for worse than that For the idea that war right? For the idea that the new New Zelda game comes out or whatever the new Mario 3d game comes out and It'll run just like you'd expect it to on the old switch on the new switch It's using that dlss to give you better draw distance better a lot pop in better texture is all that stuff I think if that happens in like the god war Ragnarok like cross gen launch example I think it would happen with Metroid Prime than you one because it was a long time ago for I believe they're on that one at least Yeah, because like that one I think they might have to switch when they I have to assume they said switch when they announced it Yeah, so I think they have a little bit of a switch on their financials There's reason that they still put breath of wild out on we yeah, I marketed for years Is what you do? I think that's why I think in the same way that breath of wild came out for both I think Metroid Prime could come out for both because of that reason I think other than that like I I wouldn't be surprised if the next Nintendo console has like Some gimmick that does that does do the thing where it's like it's the no, right? Where it's like oh, you can't play this on the previous thing because the next Nintendo console is being played with a wheel Where's like some shit like that you and then you look at really you're like, oh, there's the boost on the nipples That's why I'm playing it going back to what I was saying earlier about the generation to generation improvement technically of these games and that Jump from S to HD and all of that and like with where I'm at where since 2013 since the Wii U like Sumo 3D World on the Wii U versus Sumo 3D World on the switch none of us look at that game are like It could look better.
It's like no, this looks how it should look I I think that I'm with Andy more so on this that I think that Nintendo is probably gonna lean in to trying to just build on the Switch ecosystem and there at some point will have to be exclusives that can only play on the new thing But I do think that they're gonna try to find like ways to maximize their their Install base because I mean even Sony did it with PlayStation like so He's just now starting to dip their toe into like next PS5 exclusive games And it's not because Spider-Man 2 couldn't have possibly worked on PS4 It's just because now they're trying to really push the boundaries and get things going But like we had multiple years of games that were able to be designed in both and none of us could look at any of those games and be like Damn, man It really would have been better if it was only on PS5 You know besides the dual sense things and all of that stuff which I freaking love But that's me is the potential switch to's benefit is breath of wild running in 4k Here's another question for on the rest. Do we ever In let's say, you know, the switch to does come out next year How long before the switch one goes off of say on taking off a retail? I like talking about this because it's funny because I make a lot of videos like arguing Oh, yes, so she's coming soon and then I'll get a lot of those like those counter arguments like yeah But you know the switch is going so strong now Why wouldn't tend to release a switch to and kind of like ruin all of that success and I mean It's quick because we're talking about strong software sales and forcing compatibility and all that and maybe just look at how Nintendo handles the 3ds I think there's your answer because switch came out March 2017 Nintendo was still publishing games for 3ds until 2019 So and they even announced like what the new 2ds 3 like the new 2ds like sell after switch came out So there were still revisions and themes and published titles coming out now. That's right.
We got a metric After the switch. Yeah, yeah, exactly So, I mean, I think you know you kind of look at like the games we're kind of getting now for switch like the Mario RPG The Mario vs Donkey Kong the another code to memory like a lot of remasters and remakes I think we're gonna see a lot more of those that will still be because which will be back for some paddle I assume I think it'll be obviously for switch too, but we're gonna see a lot of those games coming to switch for the next two to three Years they're gonna take advantage of sales and well, I think it's gonna be exclusives like day one like I think 3d marks and exclusive And maybe I'm wrong on that. I don't know I do agree that at least to some extent There's gonna be some games that they're gonna be like, you know what? This should be on both Like I think they're gonna they're gonna because I think there are some games that are the system sellers And then there are some games that are just gonna sell mostly software Yeah, and then you're gonna see remedy be like we want to put Alan wake Alan wake 200 version version Also, I wonder how much of it also comes down to like development timelines is painting out that way where I intend those pretty good Except for sometimes about like not having the big delays like of course all the gets a little like crazy, right?
But I feel like a lot of times games get announced when it is all right this thing's about ready Let's announce that the princess peach game is coming or less announced that we're making a Mario vs Donkey Kong thing right? So sorry cut you off. I just want to say because it's just kind of funny like I think the Nintendo most of their games now They they're not gonna really get delayed because most of the games are done like they're in such a good place right now Or they're sitting on games tears the kingdom they were sitting on it for a year Mario wonder like they had no deadline for that game Primary mastered we saw evidence it was done back in summer 2021 They waited over a year and a half to even announce it I do wonder if like there are any projects that might be being worked on that aren't taking longer than they expect But they're already they are already being worked on for switch that might end up coming out crushing I think those will be the examples yeah, I Agree there for sure too something interesting that you're kind of touching on here in early on the episode Under today when you look at the dev teams the type of games coming out the remakes and ports and things like that That like maybe they're their a teams are clearly working on the follow up tomorrow the follow up to you know xyz everything I was on a iGn's nbc a couple weeks ago and Rebecca Valentine brought up how weird it is that we don't know who develops super Mario RPG like super RPG is such a unique game in that You put the game up there's no splash screen saying who developed it like and the original game of Square Enix and Nintendo like cool Total development stuff But like it's very very bizarre that like they just didn't answer it and then Nintendo reached out for comment and they didn't respond and it's like Why is there a secret here? Rebecca did finally get the answer here.
So I'm a real bit from our article from iGn The official Nintendo store page for the game pointed to Nintendo as the publisher But again those pages don't list developers So what's weird about this is an occasional show to handle this information as we inch closer and closer to launch as weeks ago I saw several threads online speculation of who the studio was could it be graso camolot a group of rehired alpha dream developers alpha dream being the Team that used to make mario Luigi games that doesn't exist anymore Um, no one seemed to know so I did the fairly obvious thing a journalist does in the situation reach out to nintendo and square Enix to find out the answer It would have been extremely simple for either of them to just respond to email and say hey Thanks for asking it was a joint effort between nintendo internal studios and art at piazza simple no problem clears it right up Um, and that's it so no but that didn't happen instead screen is told me to ask nintendo and tend to send a wait until the games out Check with the credits notably while iGn had the game for review all this information was locked behind those credits Uh, there was no arts at piazza logo on a splash screen when you boot up the game Nothing the general public only found out because someone managed to find it written in very tiny letters and a copyright notice at the bottom of a Japanese pre-order download page what so these embargas have spoilers So what's so interesting about this is that it's this art a piazza This group that uh the dragon quest games and like the remakes of those uh coming to the The switch which makes sense when you think about it makes which just a bunch of random internal nintendo stuff But like this is bizarre like it's really weird and also it resulted in great and a great product So this is a bad thing but like this is where we're at with where the what dev teams or weird algomations of dev teams are working on These these four horsemen. Yeah switch titles. So it's like what are the big guns working on and how lined up are they uh to just Again, they're like yeah, they're like sitting there with like their snipers aimed at the neck And I mean are they are is this switch to going to be a repeat of the switch where year after year after launch we're getting everything We could be a team the last year of that game I was just unpolishing yeah the game has been finished But they were just working on it and I think there Nintendo's in such this weird place that I feel like only Nintendo can do because other publishers don't know how to luxury But Nintendo can just sit on things and just go all right wait to put it out because we're waiting on opening we're waiting on the right time And that's weird like nobody else does it that way would intend to somehow figure that out Yeah, like should we put it out say that? You go first I was gonna say it reminds a super Joe there like they like should we put this online?
We just sold like 900 million switches now we go away They just the the income is just so constant and it's the grant that thought oh five. It's like the only other analog, you know Yeah, I was gonna say something similar um so like um apparently Ubisoft is not happy with the sales for um Mario Revisparks of hope and apparently Nintendo had actually advised them to hold off on releasing it for a while And they didn't and now they're disappointed with the sales Which was kind of funny that Nintendo would give them that suggestion because Nintendo can has a luxury of being able to sit on games They're not any sort of financial bind I was having a conversation with a friend that works in dev and they're talking about like I was I brought that up to them. I was like hey like why doesn't a studio just like hold on to the game Right and they're like well if you think about it right like you hold on to the game And what does that do for the people that are working on the game that won the names and the credits that they move on and want to like You know apply places or like voice talent that you might not be able to control of like you know when they might leak something or There's so many different moving parts that it's so hard to go. Hey, let's not release this thing for a year It's like no when we finish that thing we want to put it out as quickly as possible so that we can keep this thing moving But Nintendo just has this like you know they know how to move that ship right like they know how to operate because they are that platform They have everything under control and it's super wild to see Nintendo's like one less thing to control no voice actions I mean one of my minor rights with Mario PG because that's really cool cut seems be you see them talking like I don't hear anything Yeah, I mean bringing up like again the obvious but the Mario movie such a game changer in so many ways both for the power of the switch And sales there but also just the brand of Nintendo the brand of Mario But the second highest grossing animated film of all time is now under Nintendo's belt Like and this is just the beginning You know the Zelda movie announced like again quality not with standing just that is going to do well Maybe not as well as as Mario.
We definitely not as well as Mario movie But I imagine it's going to be well and I imagine it will just like Mario did boost the sales of Zelda games It's like they just got something going right now. That is why I mean it's the it feels like the right decisions are being made because I feel like in Another multiverse they're saying oh, we gotta make a Wii sports movie or like just like one of the other animated movies Like when the emoji movie got made and stuff like that and there's all these other amazing properties out there that you're wondering When it when are those gonna get the silver screen love and Zelda's just been one of those franchises that we've always wanted A Netflix animated cartoon or just something like really high quality that you can point to and say like man I used to play that game when I was five years old now It's this gigantic project I feel like at any in again in any other multiverse Nintendo's doing a weird Nintendo decision and making Whatever a warrior wear a movie which I know bless and may be their day one But like the fact that they're doing And they're concentrating on the ones that we care about and not twisted metal We did our interview with Reggie Feasmay I forget his exact answer but we talked about like the fact that Nintendo wants to put out like one iteration for console essentially of like their big franchises like you get to a new console it is All right, roll out the 2d Mario roll out the 3d Mario roll out the 2d Zelda roll out the 3d Zelda All right a sport another sport like there is the they have a template They have a template and a cadence of what their software output for a console looks like and again That's something that is so Nintendo like nobody else can do that right like you be soft has to put out eight assassin's creeds and a Genreons yeah like a year right like Nintendo was like hey one of each and then pause old all right next console one of each It's crazy. We'll rest of them all Again, yeah, let's get the doctor Mario. Let's mess around and make a game where you have long arms and punch each other.
Okay. What's successful? Yeah, I mean dude that's a great thing that was like what is that team working on the Mario Kart team made arms both of those games released in 2017 Oh my god, like yes There's the um all the DLC which there was a lot from Mario Kart But like we've been talking about like that totally feels like it could have been sub teams or other people working I believe it was I don't remember who but I'm pretty sure that that main EPD team wasn't really all hands-on deck for that which is exciting stuff because what are they all hands on then, you know I really hope it's something that I want to I want to hear the people who did the arms soundtrack come back and make a new game Yes, like if there's anything I love from arms. It was that soundtrack so good incredible All right.
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Um Andres restart on YouTube. Yeah, go check them out. Let's get to 50k everybody one or the other Yeah, bomb everywhere super awesome dude like I was saying I've been listening to watching a whole bunch of stuff And it's very very good new videos every single day. Um, so definitely go check those out Let us know in the comments below what you're thinking about Nintendo's 2024 and what you would rate on a scale of 1 to 10 Nintendo's 2023 But until next time.
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