Wendy Tucker on the Shulgin Legacy & the Future of the Farm: Preserving Psychedelic History

In this profound episode of Divergent States, we welcome Wendy Tucker, daughter of Ann Shulgin and stepdaughter of the legendary Sasha Shulgin, the "Godfather of Ecstasy." Wendy shares intimate stories of growing up at the iconic Shulgin Farm, working alongside Sasha in his lab, and her mission to preserve their legacy through the Shulgin Foundation.Key Topics Covered:Sasha’s Lab & Humble Genius: Wendy recounts behind-the-scenes moments with Sasha, his playful humor, and the creation of 200+ psychedelic compounds.The Farm’s Future: Why the Shulgin property is being preserved as a living community space—not a museum—with plans for workshops, events, and even weddings.MDMA’s Therapeutic Roots: How Leo Zeff and Ann Shulgin pioneered underground therapy, and why veterans are now leading the charge for healing.Transform Press: Updates on Sasha’s lecture series, The Nature of Drugs, and other rare archival projects.How to Get Involved: Supporting the foundation’s mission to protect psychedelic history and foster education.Perfect for: Psychonauts, historians, therapy advocates, and anyone curious about the intersection of science, culture, and cognitive liberty.Links & Resources:Donate or learn more: shulginfoundation.orgFollow Divergent States for more deep dives: [Instagram/YouTube] @DivergentStates]Subscribe now to explore the minds and movements shaping psychedelics today!Thank you to all the Guests, Patreon supporters, music submissions, and all the wonderful people that come together to make this thing happen! We couldn't be doing this without YOU!Big thank you Bryan, Dylalien, Flintwick, Ach, and Brad of Integration Communications!Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Shulgin Legacy03:00 Wendy Tucker's Journey and the Shulgin Foundation06:04 The Importance of the Shulgin Farm08:55 Community Engagement and Events11:50 Women and Psychedelics: The Deva Collective15:00 Personal Reflections and Lessons from the Shulgins17:53 MDMA Therapy and Veterans' Healing21:01 Education and Stigma in Psychedelic Use24:01 Supporting the Shulgin Foundation26:58 Future Initiatives and Community Building29:49 Transform Press and Preserving Knowledge33:03 Balancing Legacy and Modern Research35:46 Conclusion and Future OutlookSend us Fan MailFiresideProject.orgDownload the app or text/call 62-FIRESIDEZendo ProjectOur listeners get 10% off the Zendo Project SIT Program with the code DIVERGENTS10Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the showSpecial Thanks to our Macrodosers, Super D and Mike, and our Thumbprint Tier member, Angie on Patreon!  https://linktr.ee/3L1T3Mod