What happened in COP30’s first week? Support for energy efficiency and a status report on methane show which climate initiatives are still making progress episode artwork

EPISODE · Nov 19, 2025 · 52 MIN

What happened in COP30’s first week? Support for energy efficiency and a status report on methane show which climate initiatives are still making progress

from Energy Gang

Negotiations in the COP 30 climate talks are continuing in Belem, Brazil. The headlines are focusing on the divisions between countries that are shaping this year’s climate talks. But despite the doom and gloom, there are some practical steps being taken to support the transition towards lower-carbon energy. There may be a notable lack of significant new pledges. But making a pledge is the easy part. Implementation is always harder, and that is the focus for COP30.At COP28 in Dubai two years ago, a goal was set to double the pace of global energy efficiency gains, from 2% a year to over 4% a year. Can we hit that goal, and what will it mean if we do?To debate those questions, Ed Crooks and regular guest Amy Myers Jaffe are joined by Bob Hinkle, whose company Metrus Energy develops and finances efficiency and building energy upgrades across the US. Bob is there at the talks in Belem, and gives his perspective on the mood at the meeting. The presence of American businesses at the conference this year is definitely reduced compared to other recent COPs. But Bob still thinks it was well worth him going. He explains what he gets out of attending the COP, why energy efficiency has a vital role to play in cutting emissions, and why he is still optimistic about climate action.Another initiative that came out of COP28 was the Oil and Gas Decarbonization Charter (ODGC): a group of more than 50 of the world’s largest oil and gas companies, which aim to reach near-zero methane emissions and end routine flaring by 2030. Bjorn Otto Sverdrup is head of the secretariat for the OGDC, and he joins us having just returned from Belem.Bjorn Otto tells Amy and Ed that there has been some real progress in the industry. The 12 leading international companies that are members of the Oil and Gas Climate Initiative have reported some positive numbers: their methane emissions are down 62%, routine flaring is down 72%, and there’s been a 24% reduction in total greenhouse gas emissions.There is still huge potential for cutting in total greenhouse gas emissions by curbing methane leakage and routine flaring worldwide. How can we make more progress? Bjorn explains the scale of the opportunity, the real-world constraints, and the growing role of new technology including satellites and AI in detecting leaks. Keep following the Energy Gang for more news and insight as COP30 wraps. Next week we’ll talk about what happed, what was promised, what didn’t happen, and what to expect on climate action in 2026.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Negotiations in the COP 30 climate talks are continuing in Belem, Brazil. The headlines are focusing on the divisions between countries that are shaping this year’s climate talks. But despite the doom and gloom, there are some practical steps being taken to support the transition towards lower-carbon energy. There may be a notable lack of significant new pledges. But making a pledge is the easy part. Implementation is always harder, and that is the focus for COP30.At COP28 in Dubai two years ago, a goal was set to double the pace of global energy efficiency gains, from 2% a year to over 4% a year. Can we hit that goal, and what will it mean if we do?To debate those questions, Ed Crooks and regular guest Amy Myers Jaffe are joined by Bob Hinkle, whose company Metrus Energy develops and finances efficiency and building energy upgrades across the US. Bob is there at the talks in Belem, and gives his perspective on the mood at the meeting. The presence of American businesses at the conference this year is definitely reduced compared to other recent COPs. But Bob still thinks it was well worth him going. He explains what he gets out of attending the COP, why energy efficiency has a vital role to play in cutting emissions, and why he is still optimistic about climate action.Another initiative that came out of COP28 was the Oil and Gas Decarbonization Charter (ODGC): a group of more than 50 of the world’s largest oil and gas companies, which aim to reach near-zero methane emissions and end routine flaring by 2030. Bjorn Otto Sverdrup is head of the secretariat for the OGDC, and he joins us having just returned from Belem.Bjorn Otto tells Amy and Ed that there has been some real progress in the industry. The 12 leading international companies that are members of the Oil and Gas Climate Initiative have reported some positive numbers: their methane emissions are down 62%, routine flaring is down 72%, and there’s been a 24% reduction in total greenhouse gas emissions.There is still huge potential for cutting in total greenhouse gas emissions by curbing methane leakage and routine flaring worldwide. How can we make more progress? Bjorn explains the scale of the opportunity, the real-world constraints, and the growing role of new technology including satellites and AI in detecting leaks. Keep following the Energy Gang for more news and insight as COP30 wraps. Next week we’ll talk about what happed, what was promised, what didn’t happen, and what to expect on climate action in 2026. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

NOW PLAYING

What happened in COP30’s first week? Support for energy efficiency and a status report on methane show which climate initiatives are still making progress

0:00 52:49

No transcript for this episode yet

We transcribe on demand. Request one and we'll notify you when it's ready — usually under 10 minutes.

IT IS WHAT IT IS with SHALLZ - SHALLY ZOMORODI Shally Zomorodi What?  "It is what it is" with ShallZ – Shally ZomorodiWhen? WeeklyHow long? 35 minutesEvery week, Mother of 4, wife, morning TV news anchor and ultimate hostess, Shally Zomorodi talks about life - its up's and downs and how to stay on track in her weekly podcast, ‘It is what it is.’  Known for her high energy, infectious smile and ability to see the cup as half full Shally talks about all things in life and how to work through its challenges. From parenting, marriage, friendships, current events to how to smile when it just seems impossible ‘It is what it is’ is the perfect podcast to help inspire you to dance through the rain. Helt håpløs Magnhild Sundland Har du noen gang følt deg helt håpløs? Er livet helt på trynet av og til? Du er ikke alene! Magnhild Sundland og Karianne Solberg inviterer ulike gjester til å fortelle om vanskelige situasjoner og tabubelagte temaer, for å knuse instagram-perfeksjonismen og vise deg der hjemme at det er flere som møter vanskelige situasjoner.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Oracular Wisdom David Mark Quigley Join David Mark Quigley each week on the ”Weekly Oracular Wisdom” podcast, where he delves into the I Ching to uncover the energetic currents that shape our lives. Every episode, David provides a unique reading of the I Ching that captures the essence of the week’s energy, offering listeners insightful guidance on how to best navigate the challenges and opportunities that may arise.Each session is designed not just to forecast the week ahead but to empower listeners with ancient wisdom that is remarkably applicable to modern life. Whether you’re facing personal decisions, professional crossroads, or simply seeking a deeper understanding of the dynamics at play in the world around you, this podcast is your go-to resource for enhancing your awareness and aligning your actions with the greater flow of life.Tune in to gain practical advice and transformative insights that will help you turn the tides in your favor, leveraging the timeless wisdom of the I Ching to lead a more harmonious a Clean flow Its-all-here Instrumental for focus and energy

Frequently Asked Questions

How long is this episode of Energy Gang?

This episode is 52 minutes long.

When was this Energy Gang episode published?

This episode was published on November 19, 2025.

What is this episode about?

Negotiations in the COP 30 climate talks are continuing in Belem, Brazil. The headlines are focusing on the divisions between countries that are shaping this year’s climate talks. But despite the doom and gloom, there are some practical steps being...

Can I download this Energy Gang episode?

Yes, you can download this episode by clicking the download button on the episode player, or subscribe to the podcast in your preferred podcast app for automatic downloads.
URL copied to clipboard!