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EPISODE · May 27, 2026 · 1H 1M

What You Said Is Not What They Heard: A Psychotherapist Breaks Down Why

from Pain to Performance · host Bradlee Morgan

You meant well. You said the right thing. And somehow it still landed wrong. They got hurt, you got defensive, and the whole conversation went sideways. Sound familiar?In this episode of Pain to Performance, host Bradley Morgan sits down with Dr. Patricia Timmerman, a psychotherapist, author, and creator of the IAP model, a communication framework built from years of clinical work, personal experience, and pattern recognition. The IAP stands for Intention, Action, and Perception, and it exposes the gap that lives inside every conversation you have. The gap between what you meant, what you actually did, and how the other person received it.Dr. Timmerman walks through real examples from her own marriage, friendships, and clinical practice to show how this framework works in the real world. She breaks down why most arguments are not about what we think they are about, how assumptions become false facts when we stop checking them, and why the words "I can't believe you did that" often say more about the person speaking than the person being spoken to.This conversation also goes deep into the mind-body connection. Dr. Timmerman explains how she uses findings from epigenetics and neuroplasticity to physically shift her emotional state, from power posing to factual affirmations to what she calls becoming an active participant in your own intrusive thoughts instead of a passive one.Brad and Dr. Timmerman also break down several actionable communication tools you can start using tonight, including reflecting (repeating back what you heard to confirm understanding), the preamble (telling someone what you need from a conversation before it starts), instructive compliments (telling people what they are doing right so they know what to keep doing), the post-conversation (walking through each other's experience after conflict to rebuild understanding), and the rule of three interpretations (pausing your worst-case-scenario thinking and generating two alternative explanations before choosing the one that serves you best).If you keep having the same fights with the same people and you cannot figure out why, this episode will show you exactly where the breakdown is happening.Topics covered: communication skills, relationship advice, couples therapy, IAP model, psychotherapy, intention vs impact, conflict resolution, assumptions in relationships, mind-body connection, epigenetics, neuroplasticity, power posing, intrusive thoughts, active listening, reflecting, emotional intelligence, attachment styles, anxious attachment, factual affirmations, positive affirmations, relationship communication, cognitive balance, instructive compliments, self-awareness, mental health, therapy toolsTo connect with Dr. Patricia Timmerman: advocatetocreate.com | Free Rule of Three Interpretations worksheet: advocatetocreate.teachable.com | Book: "Why Are We Fighting?" available on AmazonListen to Pain to Performance on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube.Website: paintoperformancepodcast.comFollow, subscribe, and leave a review. If this episode changed how you think about your conversations, send it to the person you keep fighting with. They probably need to hear it too. Pain is rarely a solo experience and a good conversation is better shared

You meant well. You said the right thing. And somehow it still landed wrong. They got hurt, you got defensive, and the whole conversation went sideways. Sound familiar?In this episode of Pain to Performance, host Bradley Morgan sits down with Dr. Patricia Timmerman, a psychotherapist, author, and creator of the IAP model, a communication framework built from years of clinical work, personal experience, and pattern recognition. The IAP stands for Intention, Action, and Perception, and it exposes the gap that lives inside every conversation you have. The gap between what you meant, what you actually did, and how the other person received it.Dr. Timmerman walks through real examples from her own marriage, friendships, and clinical practice to show how this framework works in the real world. She breaks down why most arguments are not about what we think they are about, how assumptions become false facts when we stop checking them, and why the words "I can't believe you did that" often say more about the person speaking than the person being spoken to.This conversation also goes deep into the mind-body connection. Dr. Timmerman explains how she uses findings from epigenetics and neuroplasticity to physically shift her emotional state, from power posing to factual affirmations to what she calls becoming an active participant in your own intrusive thoughts instead of a passive one.Brad and Dr. Timmerman also break down several actionable communication tools you can start using tonight, including reflecting (repeating back what you heard to confirm understanding), the preamble (telling someone what you need from a conversation before it starts), instructive compliments (telling people what they are doing right so they know what to keep doing), the post-conversation (walking through each other's experience after conflict to rebuild understanding), and the rule of three interpretations (pausing your worst-case-scenario thinking and generating two alternative explanations before choosing the one that serves you best).If you keep having the same fights with the same people and you cannot figure out why, this episode will show you exactly where the breakdown is happening.Topics covered: communication skills, relationship advice, couples therapy, IAP model, psychotherapy, intention vs impact, conflict resolution, assumptions in relationships, mind-body connection, epigenetics, neuroplasticity, power posing, intrusive thoughts, active listening, reflecting, emotional intelligence, attachment styles, anxious attachment, factual affirmations, positive affirmations, relationship communication, cognitive balance, instructive compliments, self-awareness, mental health, therapy toolsTo connect with Dr. Patricia Timmerman: advocatetocreate.com | Free Rule of Three Interpretations worksheet: advocatetocreate.teachable.com | Book: "Why Are We Fighting?" available on AmazonListen to Pain to Performance on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube.Website: paintoperformancepodcast.comFollow, subscribe, and leave a review. If this episode changed how you think about your conversations, send it to the person you keep fighting with. They probably need to hear it too. Pain is rarely a solo experience and a good conversation is better shared

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