Whatever you think racism is, it's bigger and stronger than that

For the first episode in season two Malaika talks with Carlos Windham. Carlos is a performer, a comedian,  a musician, a writer and the principal and founder of El Porvenir Services  LLC. Through their work with El Porvenir Services LLC , Carlos is creating change within organizations and systems to center the voices of those most impacted by white supremacy. Additionally, Carlos has been a guest speaker at Pact camp West and has  written an article for Pacts Point of View, which laid out ways that we can think about and unpack our understanding of white supremacy. In this conversation, Carlos and Malaika talk about parenting through a pandemic and global uprising, as well as how through it all we can be supporting our resident leaders [otherwise known as our kiddos] find their way  towards joy and liberation