WHISMY with Andy Crocker

What does whimsy have to do with leadership? More than you think.In this episode of the Little Birdie Podcast, host Ryan Allen sits down with Andy Crocker, creative professional, experiential designer, and self-described "passionate goofball for hire", to explore why whimsy, play, and imagination aren't just nice to have. They're essential leadership tools.Ryan and Andy dig into the intricate balance between creativity and practicality across live entertainment, theme parks, and experiential design and what that balance reveals about how all of us lead, gather, and create. Through personal anecdotes and real project experiences, they explore the role of imagination in both intimate and large-scale experiences, the challenges of measuring emotional impact, and why understanding your audience is the foundation of every great creative decision.Whether you're a leader trying to build more engaged teams, a creative professional navigating serious stakeholders, or someone who has quietly forgotten how to play, this conversation will challenge you to rethink what playful leadership actually looks like in practice. And it makes a compelling case that whimsy might be the most powerful antidote to cynicism we have.