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EPISODE · May 26, 2026 · 41 MIN

Whose Forest? The Defenders of the Amazon

from Rewildology · host Brooke Mitchell

What does it cost to defend the Amazon? Not in dollars or hectares—but years spent in exile, family members taken in the night, court rulings that win on paper and go unenforced for nearly two decades. This episode of Rewilding Amazonia follows five people who have dedicated their lives to defending the Amazon. Daniel Aristizábal, PIACI Process Director at the Amazon Conservation Team, works to protect indigenous communities that have chosen isolation from the outside world—and explains how they are now sitting on top of some of the most coveted mineral deposits on the continent. Cristina Vollmer Burelli, founder of SOSOrinoco, documents Venezuela's state-sponsored illegal mining from exile—exposing how a government became the architect of its own people's destruction. Hugo Jabini, Goldman Prize-winning Saamaka-Maroon leader from Suriname, tells the story of how his people fled slavery in 1690, built 74 communities across 1.4 million hectares of tropical forest, won a landmark ruling in the 2000s after years of legal battles—and are still waiting for full compliance 19 years later.  Cesar Carrasco, Ese'eja lodge manager at Rainforest Expeditions in the Peruvian Amazon, survived the gold mines at 17 and spent three decades helping his community build an economic foundation that didn’t depend on extraction. The episode closes with Rosa Espinoza—the chemical biologist and science communicator who grew up steeped in traditional ecological knowledge—and her belief that the deepest form of conservation is learning to live beautifully alongside nature. If this story moved you, subscribe, leave a review, and share it with someone who cares about the Amazon. Would you like to give to Rewildology? Donate here: https://givebutter.com/supportrewildology TIMESTAMPS00:00 Support and Content Warning00:42 Papaya Farm Front02:09 Isolation as Choice03:36 Quarantine and Territory05:39 Policy Wins Under Fire07:19 Green Minerals Dilemma09:12 Venezuela Mining State14:04 Gold Economy Trap19:48 Suriname Logging Shock21:27 Saamaka Rights Fight27:39 Exile and COP3031:27 Peru Mining and Mercury35:40 Tourism and Culture37:57 Live Beautifully Closing SUPPORTThis episode is supported by Cool Earth, a charity that gives cash and data directly to Indigenous communities to protect rainforest and fight the climate crisis. Learn more at coolearth.org. CREDITSExecutive Producer & Host: Brooke MitchellAssociate Producer & Music Composer: Brad Parsons LISTEN TO THE FULL SERIEShttps://rewildology.com/episode-group/rewilding-amazonia/ SHOW NOTES & NEWSLETTERShow notes & subscribe to newsletter, https://rewildology.com/ SUPPORT REWILDOLOGYhttps://rewildology.com/support-the-show/ LISTEN TO THE REWILDOLOGY PODCASTApple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3YXWSsFSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3oW6artLcvxX0QoW1TCcrq?si=ff3b5e2ec90542a2 FOLLOW REWILDOLOGYYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@RewildologyInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/rewildology/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/rewildology/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rewildologyX: https://x.com/rewil...

What does it cost to defend the Amazon? Not in dollars or hectares—but years spent in exile, family members taken in the night, court rulings that win on paper and go unenforced for nearly two decades. This episode of Rewilding Amazonia follows five people who have dedicated their lives to defending the Amazon. Daniel Aristizábal, PIACI Process Director at the Amazon Conservation Team, works to protect indigenous communities that have chosen isolation from the outside world—and explains how they are now sitting on top of some of the most coveted mineral deposits on the continent. Cristina Vollmer Burelli, founder of SOSOrinoco, documents Venezuela's state-sponsored illegal mining from exile—exposing how a government became the architect of its own people's destruction. Hugo Jabini, Goldman Prize-winning Saamaka-Maroon leader from Suriname, tells the story of how his people fled slavery in 1690, built 74 communities across 1.4 million hectares of tropical forest, won a landmark ruling in the 2000s after years of legal battles—and are still waiting for full compliance 19 years later.  Cesar Carrasco, Ese'eja lodge manager at Rainforest Expeditions in the Peruvian Amazon, survived the gold mines at 17 and spent three decades helping his community build an economic foundation that didn’t depend on extraction. The episode closes with Rosa Espinoza—the chemical biologist and science communicator who grew up steeped in traditional ecological knowledge—and her belief that the deepest form of conservation is learning to live beautifully alongside nature. If this story moved you, subscribe, leave a review, and share it with someone who cares about the Amazon. Would you like to give to Rewildology? Donate here: https://givebutter.com/supportrewildology TIMESTAMPS00:00 Support and Content Warning00:42 Papaya Farm Front02:09 Isolation as Choice03:36 Quarantine and Territory05:39 Policy Wins Under Fire07:19 Green Minerals Dilemma09:12 Venezuela Mining State14:04 Gold Economy Trap19:48 Suriname Logging Shock21:27 Saamaka Rights Fight27:39 Exile and COP3031:27 Peru Mining and Mercury35:40 Tourism and Culture37:57 Live Beautifully Closing SUPPORTThis episode is supported by Cool Earth, a charity that gives cash and data directly to Indigenous communities to protect rainforest and fight the climate crisis. Learn more at coolearth.org. CREDITSExecutive Producer & Host: Brooke MitchellAssociate Producer & Music Composer: Brad Parsons LISTEN TO THE FULL SERIEShttps://rewildology.com/episode-group/rewilding-amazonia/ SHOW NOTES & NEWSLETTERShow notes & subscribe to newsletter, https://rewildology.com/ SUPPORT REWILDOLOGYhttps://rewildology.com/support-the-show/ LISTEN TO THE REWILDOLOGY PODCASTApple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3YXWSsFSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3oW6artLcvxX0QoW1TCcrq?si=ff3b5e2ec90542a2 FOLLOW REWILDOLOGYYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@RewildologyInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/rewildology/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/rewildology/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rewildologyX: https://x.com/rewil...

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