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EPISODE · Jun 5, 2026 · 7 MIN

Why CMOs Are Measuring Brand Love Instead of Awareness

from The CMO Podcast with Fexingo: Marketing Leadership, Budgets, and Executive Strategy · host Fexingo

In this episode, Lucas and Luna explore why a growing number of chief marketing officers are abandoning traditional brand awareness metrics—like aided recall and reach—in favor of a more emotional, harder-to-game metric: brand love. They dig into a recent study by the Ehrenberg-Bass Institute showing that only 22% of consumers feel a genuine emotional connection to any brand, and how companies like Patagonia and Apple have used brand love as a north star metric to drive both loyalty and pricing power. Lucas explains why the shift is happening now: social media algorithms reward engagement, not recognition, and younger consumers (Gen Z and Gen Alpha) punish brands that feel generic. Luna pushes back on whether brand love can really be measured without turning into another vanity metric, and they land on a framework used by the CMO of REI: combining net promoter score with 'share of heart' surveys. By the end, listeners will understand why brand love might be the only metric that actually predicts future revenue in a post-cookie world. #BrandLove #MarketingMetrics #CMOStrategy #EmotionalConnection #ConsumerLoyalty #EhrenbergBass #Patagonia #Apple #REI #NetPromoterScore #ShareOfHeart #GentZ #MarketingLeadership #Business #CMOPodcast #BrandAwareness #FexingoBusiness #BusinessPodcast Keep every episode free: buymeacoffee.com/fexingo

In this episode, Lucas and Luna explore why a growing number of chief marketing officers are abandoning traditional brand awareness metrics—like aided recall and reach—in favor of a more emotional, harder-to-game metric: brand love. They dig into a recent study by the Ehrenberg-Bass Institute showing that only 22% of consumers feel a genuine emotional connection to any brand, and how companies like Patagonia and Apple have used brand love as a north star metric to drive both loyalty and pricing power. Lucas explains why the shift is happening now: social media algorithms reward engagement, not recognition, and younger consumers (Gen Z and Gen Alpha) punish brands that feel generic. Luna pushes back on whether brand love can really be measured without turning into another vanity metric, and they land on a framework used by the CMO of REI: combining net promoter score with 'share of heart' surveys. By the end, listeners will understand why brand love might be the only metric that actually predicts future revenue in a post-cookie world. #BrandLove #MarketingMetrics #CMOStrategy #EmotionalConnection #ConsumerLoyalty #EhrenbergBass #Patagonia #Apple #REI #NetPromoterScore #ShareOfHeart #GentZ #MarketingLeadership #Business #CMOPodcast #BrandAwareness #FexingoBusiness #BusinessPodcast Keep every episode free: buymeacoffee.com/fexingo

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