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EPISODE · Apr 10, 2026 · 35 MIN

Why Kidney Disease Innovation Is a Tale of Two Cities — and What It Would Take to Change That

from The Life Science Rundown · host The FDA Group

Why are there over 400 phase three oncology programs but only one in dialysis? John Butler, who has spent over 30 years in the kidney disease space, breaks down the regulatory and reimbursement dynamics that have created a surge of innovation in rare kidney diseases while leaving dialysis patients behind, and what it would take to change that.John discusses how FDA clarity on endpoints transformed the rare kidney disease investment landscape, why the dialysis bundle makes innovation functionally impossible for providers, and how the Kidney Care Access Protection Act could be the first meaningful step toward a sustainable path for new dialysis therapies.A few of John's key takeaways:Regulatory clarity is the single biggest driver of rare kidney disease investment — FDA's work with industry to define approvable endpoints changed the entire landscapeThe dialysis bundle is structurally hostile to innovation — at $280 per session for all services, supplies, and drugs, there's no room for new therapiesThe Corsuva story is a cautionary tale — a good product at a reasonable price failed because the payment mechanism didn't workK-CAPA could change the calculus by extending the TDAPA window to three years and shifting to pay-per-use reimbursementInvestors are willing to take clinical risk, but they need a clear path to both approval and paymentFDA and CMS are generally better when they don't try to coordinate — FDA should focus on science and benefit-risk, not system costThe science is moving upstream — SGLT-2s, GLP-1s, porcine kidney transplants, and wearable kidneys all point toward a future with fewer patients on dialysisAbout John ButlerJohn Butler is President and CEO of Akebia Therapeutics, where he has led the company for over 12 years. He has worked in kidney disease since 1991, with roles at Amgen and 13 years at Genzyme leading the renal and rare disease businesses. John chaired the American Kidney Fund and Kidney Care Partners, and recently testified before the House Ways & Means health subcommittee on dialysis innovation and reimbursement reform. He holds an MBA from Baruch College's Zicklin School of Business and a BA in Chemistry from Manhattan University.About The FDA GroupThe FDA Group helps life science organizations rapidly access the industry's best consultants, contractors, and candidates. Our resources assist in every stage of the product lifecycle — from clinical development to commercialization — with a focus on staff augmentation, auditing, remediation, QMS, and other specialized project work in Quality Assurance, Regulatory Affairs, and Clinical Operations. Learn more: https://www.thefdagroup.com/

Why are there over 400 phase three oncology programs but only one in dialysis? John Butler, who has spent over 30 years in the kidney disease space, breaks down the regulatory and reimbursement dynamics that have created a surge of innovation in rare kidney diseases while leaving dialysis patients behind, and what it would take to change that.John discusses how FDA clarity on endpoints transformed the rare kidney disease investment landscape, why the dialysis bundle makes innovation functionally impossible for providers, and how the Kidney Care Access Protection Act could be the first meaningful step toward a sustainable path for new dialysis therapies.A few of John's key takeaways:Regulatory clarity is the single biggest driver of rare kidney disease investment — FDA's work with industry to define approvable endpoints changed the entire landscapeThe dialysis bundle is structurally hostile to innovation — at $280 per session for all services, supplies, and drugs, there's no room for new therapiesThe Corsuva story is a cautionary tale — a good product at a reasonable price failed because the payment mechanism didn't workK-CAPA could change the calculus by extending the TDAPA window to three years and shifting to pay-per-use reimbursementInvestors are willing to take clinical risk, but they need a clear path to both approval and paymentFDA and CMS are generally better when they don't try to coordinate — FDA should focus on science and benefit-risk, not system costThe science is moving upstream — SGLT-2s, GLP-1s, porcine kidney transplants, and wearable kidneys all point toward a future with fewer patients on dialysisAbout John ButlerJohn Butler is President and CEO of Akebia Therapeutics, where he has led the company for over 12 years. He has worked in kidney disease since 1991, with roles at Amgen and 13 years at Genzyme leading the renal and rare disease businesses. John chaired the American Kidney Fund and Kidney Care Partners, and recently testified before the House Ways & Means health subcommittee on dialysis innovation and reimbursement reform. He holds an MBA from Baruch College's Zicklin School of Business and a BA in Chemistry from Manhattan University.About The FDA GroupThe FDA Group helps life science organizations rapidly access the industry's best consultants, contractors, and candidates. Our resources assist in every stage of the product lifecycle — from clinical development to commercialization — with a focus on staff augmentation, auditing, remediation, QMS, and other specialized project work in Quality Assurance, Regulatory Affairs, and Clinical Operations. Learn more: https://www.thefdagroup.com/

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