Youngest Woman on Death Row

Hi, I'm Holly and I'm Haley. Welcome to Mountain Mysteries Tales from Appalachia. Welcome back. Hello.

We are with you another week and we are super excited. We are cozy inside the cocoon of my letter couch. Yes, we are. I'm a cocooned in a blanket.

Look at cozy. I'm very cozy. Yeah, my ankles are out a little bit, which I'm not. She's splashing some ankle legs.

A little scandalous. A little scandalous. Scandalous. Scandalous.

I've seen worse. I've seen me. Whoa. I know.

I know. That's wild. I know. Calm down.

But don't start showing off me on my couch or you're going to have to leave. Okay. Understood. I mean, we've established that, you know, we're not that close.

Right. Right. So, like I said, a couple weeks ago, I didn't say anything. What do you mean, like you said?

Like I said, I was saying a couple weeks ago, I'm unemployed. Oh, right now for two months. But we had, we're in high school, so we just had graduation. And our principal, who we've had for a couple years, is leaving us.

So we're very sad. But like he's going on to do, you know, great things and, you know, very happy for him. Did you write in his yearbook? I did not.

Great. No. Great summer. Love him.

Yeah, no, it did not. But our seniors at graduation, you know, they were trying to figure out what to do for their like senior prank or whatever. So he owns a, he drives a Jeep. A Wrangler.

Okay. And I don't know if you know this about Jeeps, but like people do the thing with the ducks, like the little rubber ducks, they put them in Jeeps. Next time you're out and about and see a Jeep, there's like a line of like old ducks. And that's like a thing in the Jeep culture.

I own a Toyota. They like trade ducks. They have ducks. Well, he hates the ducks.

I don't give a duck. Yeah. He does not like the ducks. He thinks it's dumb.

But his kid love it. Like his daughter's think is the best thing ever. So they are obsessed with it. So they like bring ducks and put them in his car all the time.

So our seniors knew that and he's going to a different school system after this year. And their color is purple and he hates the color purple. It's a nice favorite color. So our seniors ordered these tiny, teeny, tiny, like no bigger than like, you know, I mean, they were so small, like less than an inch, big, little tiny purple ducks.

So as they were coming in and getting ready to go, they passed them out and each kid had a purple duck in their hands, little tiny one. So as they went to shake his hand to get their diploma, they passed him this purple duck. And I didn't know what was happening. They were so slick about it.

Like I knew they were going to do something with ducks, but I didn't know like how it was going to happen or like if it had happened. So I'm sitting there because the way our graduation is our faculty sits kind of facing the students. So we're on each side kind of like sandwiching them, which is nice because we can kind of have these little interactions with them as they come around. But one kid kind of out and she opens her palm to me and there's just this tiny purple duck and I'm like, yes, this is amazing.

And I couldn't see where I was like the table because they came out and lined up kind of in front of where I was sitting. But as there was a gap in the kids, I looked and there was a pile of purple ducks on the table. Like he just kept throwing them down beside him. And it was hilarious.

So I'm hoping he kept them and like put them in like a little jar or something from you know, the first one with the last name, Adams. He was like, John Adams, they you know, I was like, what the heck a purple duck and probably was like that little, you know, and then it just kept happening. He gets to the why. He's like, all right.

Yeah. Oh my god. You're out. So he has over 100.

I mean, we're small schools. So he had over 100 ducks. Purple ducks. Oh my gosh.

Now he has to give a duck. Yeah. So for our faculty in the figure banquet, we ordered 450, like the normal sized ducks. And dumped them in his car.

So his like four boards were covered with ducks. The passenger seat, the driver's seat just covered. How did you get the keys to his car? He said I'm lost like a ding dong.

Oh my god. So while like, we were getting ready for this banquet, somebody snuck out and like dumped the ducks in there. And for us, he also hates manneas. So he does like funny faculty awards kind of thing.

Like brings one of our teachers accidentally this your dropped her keys in the toilet and flush them. So he got her a toilet plunger. Like as a joke, it was like, you know, you get the plunger award for flushing your keys. He said it much funnier way than that.

But if you got if you were a faculty member that got an award, when you walked up, we all handed him a packet of manneas. Like a little like to go packets of mayo. So at the end of the thing, he had like a stack of manneas. Did you get a word?

I did not get an award. Okay. I had not done anything either significant enough or embarrassing enough. Yeah.

I was just like middled around for this year. Sounds like like the office dundies. It was very much that. Yeah.

And in the middle of we have the little like commercial breaks between the awards. And what they did is they would take two staff members and use AI to create a child. And these were like, because our whole theme for the nurse together and then like, no, like AI, like a generated a photo of like their child look like because our whole theme for the year was attacking apathy. Yeah.

And so his like, the joke was, you know, if we were to have, you know, kids, like the future generation, like these are the kids we want, like a combination of like, it was kind of a guessing game. So we had, they did that with you and I did not have one. Okay. So I got out of it and I was like, oh my gosh, but it was really funny because it would be like, it wasn't always like, you know, the traditional male of the email server.

We had like our guys at work in our construction department, like their child, which was hilarious. We had a combination of all three of our like beginning teachers. Wow. Our guys that work out at our alternative school, you know, what they're, it was so funny.

But yeah, that was the kind of thing we do at the end of the school year. I gotta say, that sounds like so much fun. It is so fun. Nothing makes me happier than stuff like that.

Like, I feel like my true self can come out where I'm like, Gideon, like, he could be just like fun, you know, and then like they do the really like sweet and serious ones. Like, we honor our retirees and our retirees get a rocking chair that's like got a plaque on it. Um, and then like our beginning teacher of the year, teacher of the year get a little award. Um, and then we have two like special faculty awards that we give and our, um, one of our teachers, she can quilt.

So she got little quilt squares and we all signed them and she like put them together into a quilt and it was really sweet. Um, and she like read this like speech and all of us are like boo-hoo crying through it. And it was like, it was amazing. Um, but also during the ceremony, we know that he roasts us.

So we were like, well, we have to get in on it. Yeah. So he always on the phone. So somebody would play it to you and like, everybody pretend to be on their phones.

And then another one went off and teachers played duck duck goose. And that was hilarious. And then we had two of our teachers. They played, I've had a time in my life.

That song. Yeah. They both were wearing heelys and did an interpretive dance. Love it.

Like dirty dancing style. Love it. Um, and it was, and they like serenaded him and it was beautiful. I love this.

But yeah, that's our, and we all were purple. Didn't get an invite. It's cool. It's fine.

We all were purple. We all handed him our manneas packets. Between ducks and manneas, this poor guy, no wonder he's leaving. I know.

I'll try like, forget this. But yeah. And then, you know, obviously we're all very nice and we're like, you know, but as I was leaving, I got to sneak in like, I snuck in my like goodbye, like hug, like, thank you so much for everything and all the things that I left. And then it was like a receiving line at a funeral of people like, I don't like to say bye.

You were smart getting there. No, I snuck in there earlier. Yeah. That was great.

Wow. But that's the kind of environment I work in now. That's fantastic. That's amazing.

That's amazing. I love it. And um, they make the, you know, really crappy days, even, you know, they make a good. Absolutely.

So it's important. Absolutely. Jobs satisfaction is super important. Well, on that happy note, you got four a cent.

I got five notes. Lordy. I found them. I also wrote this story a couple weeks ago.

And so I didn't, just do you remember what you were really lucky to have you here. So lucky that you're lucky that you don't get fired. Yeah, really. I am.

It would just say hi, I'm Holly. And then it would go into No, so it's, I would like to thank Wikipedia for the story. Thank you. Wikipedia.

I feel like you say that a lot. Wikipedia and I are very close. Have you a I'd a baby together? No, it did use AI for a recommendation letter, Val.

Oh, I didn't know you could do that. Sure can. I don't, okay, I'm going to be really honest here. I don't know how to use it.

I don't even know where to find like, I don't even know your tutorial. I just probably help you in your job. I'm sure it could. I just see AI all the time on like my social media stuff.

Like I see Instagram with it, but I don't know how to use it. I know it's artificial intelligence. I know what it means, but I just don't know. It's amazing.

It's a game changer. Please show me how to, because I want to. Students don't use it to write your papers, but like, I've used it for recommendation letters. I've used it for things.

Okay. Okay. You cannot leave my home tonight. I will show you how to do this.

Okay. We'll do. All right. Let's rock and roll into this.

I did not use AI for this. Okay. Well, good. So, okay.

We're going to talk about Krista Pike from Beckley West Virginia. Okay. Okay. So she was born in 1976 to Carissa Hanson and Emil Emil.

I'm going to go Emil. Yeah. Glen Pike in Beckley West Virginia. Her parents had pretty tumultuous relationship.

They were married for two years and divorced for a year after Emil, oh, just kidding. After Carissa, not Emil. Carissa was found to be cheating. Oh, she cheated on her husband.

But then they remarried. Well, I mean, make them in. Yep. For another two years after Carissa attempted suicide.

Oh, yeah. So not great. They were pretty negligent parents to Krista. And Ann noted that when Krista was a baby, she would be crawling around through piles of dog poop all over the house.

So just very unclean, unhygienic, control bad. And that Carissa, the mother, wanted to keep partying when she received news that her toddler was experiencing severe seizures. Oh my gosh. Yeah.

Krista's paternal grandparents would frequently help take care of her and believed, you know, that was the only people who ever loved her, really were grandparents, particularly her grandmother. When her grandmother passed in 1988, Krista made her first suicide tent at age 12, for what she got very little support for. So her living situation continued to be unstable throughout her teenage years. And she was both a recipient and the perpetrator of violence.

One of her mother's boyfriends punched her in the face. Criminal charges were filed and then they settled while staying with her father's new family. One of her young half sisters claimed to have been molested by Krista, causing her father to send her away. Krista additionally claimed to have been sexually abused or molested at several points in her time.

Her friends and family doubted these occurrences and noted that she was a pathological liar. In one incident, a man phoned claiming that he was going to rape her. In response, Krista and a friend beat him with a stick in a parking lot. So just a very traumatic, tumultuous childhood experience.

And it has been my professional experience that those who have been harmed, typically not always, but if you're perpetrating, you have typically been perpetrated on. Especially if it's a child. Yes. Like when we worked together before we had several cases of that, of children who would come, we would read their things and it would say that they perpetrated on another child.

But then you look at their history and that has also happened to them. So it's like repeating behavior doesn't make it okay at all. Well, because also as a child, there's a lot of guilt in shame that comes with it of, you know, I must have asked for this. I must have wanted it.

And also that idea of powerless and this is how I get love, show love, because this is what I was given. Right. You know what I mean? So yeah, it's very complicated.

I'm fusing. Yeah, it is. It's just traumatic all around. Absolutely.

So she had been a very bright child, but her unstable home life caused her to frequently change schools, causing her performance in school to deteriorate. And working in the system, we know that when kids change schools, it stunts their academic growth by about three months. Every time we have a school change. So it's very, because there are other things that go into it.

It's friends, it's academics, it's like trying to fit in. So the more school changes, the less likely they are to be successful in school. In 10th grade, she was sent to a juvenile facility for a year where she became interested in a program called JobPore. And it's a government program aimed at helping low income youth by offering vocational training and career skills.

So it's a really neat program. I've had a lot of, not like my students, but when I worked with teenagers and other capacities that have gone on to do JobPore. In the fall of 1994, Pike attended the Nowclosed JobPore Center in Knoxville, Tennessee. She began dating a man a year younger than her named Tadrill Ship.

Do they call him Tad? I don't know. Okay. Don't know.

Tadrill. Together, they developed an interest in the occult. Well, I know. Well, I mean, come on now.

Why not? I mean, I too am fascinated by the occult. Sure. Like, I mean, I'll read about like super interesting.

Yeah. Not sure I want to get like involved in it. You don't want to be a member. No, I don't want to be a part of the occult.

I just want to like observe it from afar. Yeah. Even through like Netflix or write a book, write your computer screen, my computer screen. Yeah.

Absolutely. Yeah. Okay. So let's talk about let's pass judgment on her.

Christus crimes. Okay. So Chris became jealous of her job core classmate. He was 19 year old Colleen Slimer.

She thought Colleen was trying to steal her boyfriend from her. Friends of Colleen though denied the secuation along with a friend, Shadola Peterson, who was 18. Chris had planned to lower Colleen to an isolated abandoned steam plant near the University of Tennessee campus. On January 12, 1995, Pike, Ship and Peterson and Slimer signed out of their dormitory and proceeded to wits where Slimer was told they were going to make peace by offering her some marijuana.

He's offering a sorry but marijuana. This is the way you said it. I didn't know what we're gonna make peace and I thought, okay, we're gonna shake hands. Maybe become a goner.

The woods to smoke weed. Of course. Yeah. I got something for you.

Yeah. It's great. Upon arrival at this included location, Slimer was attacked by Pike and Ship while Peterson acted as the lookout. According to later court testimony for the next 30 minutes, Slimer was taunted, beaten and slashed.

And then a pentagram was carved into her chest. Finally, Pike smashed Slimer's skull with a large chunk of asphalt, killing her. Pike actually kept a piece of Slimer's skull. So it was very, very gruesome.

You know, back at the dorm, come back at the dorms. Pike began to show off the piece of skull around the school and within 36 hours, the three were arrested. So very quickly, this was solved. The logbook showed that Pike, Ship, Peterson and Slimer left together and only three of them returned.

So it was pretty easy to figure out who was with her last detective's family piece of skull and Pike's jacket pocket. Soon after her arrest, Pike confessed to police of the torture and killing of Slimer, but insisted they were merely trying to scare her and it got out of control. Yeah. I don't think so.

I don't think so. During her trial, the prosecution was aided by evidence and Pike's confession. She was charged with first-degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder. On March 22, 1996, after only a few hours of deliberation, she was found guilty on both counts.

On March 30, she was sentenced to death by electrocution. For the murder charge and 25 years in prison for the conspiracy charge. Ship received a life sentence with the possibility of parole plus 25 years. Peterson, who had turned informant, received probation for pleading guilty to be an accessory after the fact.

So this was the lookout that agreed to testify against the other two. Okay. So following the guilty verdict, Crystal launched, canceled, and then relaunched an appeal of her conviction in the Tennessee State Courts in June 2001 and then again in June 2002 against the advice of her lawyers. She asked the courts to drop her appeal and sought to be executed via electrocution.

Interesting. So I guess she decided that she was done. Criminal court judge Mary Beth Leibowitz granted the request and execution date was set for August 19, 2002. She then changed her mind, of course, with death looming.

Yeah. And on July 8, 2002, defense lawyers filed a motion to allow the appeal process to continue. This motion was denied. However, on August 2, 2002, a three judge state appeals court panel ruled that the proceedings should be continued and the execution was not carried out.

In December 2008, Pike's latest request for a new trial was turned down and she was returned to death row. With this denial, her allowed appeals under the rules and procedures of state of Tennessee's criminal justice system were exhausted. All right. In May 2014, so being on death row is a long time.

It's not usually a quick process. In May 2014, her lawyers entered an appeal in the federal court system and they sought for her sense to be commuted from death to prison on the following grounds. So, like, pig death penalty off, so that's a good life in prison. And they said it was due to ineffective assistance of counsel that she suffered from mental illness and capital punishment as administered in Tennessee is unconstitutional.

We're always pulling the mental illness card. Yeah. Everybody does. It doesn't come up in trial, but I want you to know this.

And it could just be that you have really crappy lawyers. It could be. Yeah. I mean, clearly there's something not right about you if this is what you're doing.

Right. But I don't think we can blame. I'm shocked. She didn't say it was the pot.

True. Yeah. In a 61 page ruling by US District Judge Harry S. Mattis Jr.

issued on March 11th of 2016, all grounds were rejected and they requested, you know, resentencing was denied. On August 22nd of 2019, Wow. Yeah. Having heard the same appeal by Pike's lawyers on October 1st, 2018, the three judge United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit panel unanimously upheld the lower court ruling and denied relief.

So she's still on death row. She's going to die. Yeah. One day.

All right. Let's talk about an attempted murder conviction. It's going back to 2001. On August 24th, 2001, Pike with alleged assistance from inmate Natasha Cornett, as well as she's injured.

Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Natasha Cornett, she wasn't she in the first story we ever did.

Maybe I'm almost certain. I don't know. Okay. Sorry.

Keep going. Okay. I'm going to look that up. I'm almost certain.

Well, these two buddies attacked it and attempted to strangle their fellow inmate Patricia Jones with a shoestring. They nearly succeeded in choking her to death. Jones have been serving a life sentence for the 1995 murder of an 84 year old in Knoxville at the time of her attack. Yeah.

Really? Yes. Natasha Cornett, I knew that name is here, is serving the life without parole at the Deborah Cajons and Rehabilitation Center in Nashville for her involvement in the Lily and Murders. What?

We just made a commission. A full circle moment. Yes. Yes.

Wow. So sorry, y'all, but quick segue. The first story that we ever did on this podcast was an episode called the Lily Lid Murders about a family who stops at a rest area. And they're attacked by teenagers who are in like goth outfits and so cold, like a cold satanic.

Yeah. And murdered this entire family. And actually, I think the little boy survived. But it was the first story ever did.

And one of the girls and one of the girls helped this Krista to try to commit a crime and kill it. Wow. Yeah. Wow.

I did not make that connection. That's wild. What a small, small, small world. I don't even know what to say to that.

But Murders. In a cold murders. But yeah, there's a connection. Okay.

Sorry to throw that out. I was like, wait, that's crazy. Wow. That's crazy.

Okay. So she was convicted of attempted first-degree murder on August 12, 2004. So although it is the position of the Tennessee Department of Corrections that Cornette assisted in this crime, their investigation concluded there was insufficient evidence to charge her with helping Pike attack Jones. Wow.

Yeah. Cornette. Jones lived, right? Yes.

She lived. All right. So she also had an attempted prison break. Wow.

She's busy. She's busy. Busy girl. Yeah.

In March of 2012, it was revealed that Pike had made escape plans involving corrections officer Justin Heflin and a New Jersey man named Donald Coet. Though it's never really been determined how it exactly began, Coet worked as a personal trainer and was then in his early 30s, entered into a letter writing correspondence with Pike around the beginning of 2011. By July that year, Coet was making the close to 1,800 mile round trip from Bloomington, New Jersey to Nashville, Tennessee to visit Pike in person on visiting days once or twice a month. Wow.

That's a lot. Yeah. Eventually, Coet communicated a plan for her escape to Pike and enlisted the help of Corrections officer Heflin who agreed to participate and returned for cash and gifts. Wonder what kind gifts?

But I can guess from this man. Oh, it's gifts from the New Jersey side. I thought it was gifts from her. I mean, whatever what's your boat?

But there's not a lot she can offer him in prison besides some smokes, maybe some chewing gum and some sex. Great. You know, maybe because of security concerns, the Tennessee Department of Corrections has not provided many details about the plan. Yeah.

Obviously, that makes sense. However, the eventually unsealed indictment laid out a scenario where a prison key would be traced and then a duplicate created. Not sure that's how copying keys works. But early in 2012, prison personnel received information about the escape plot.

And this led to the attempted prison break being thwarted. According to the TBI, the plan was not very far along when uncovered and the jail break was not imminent by any means. In March of 2012, Coet was arrested and charged with bribery and conspiracy to commit escape. So yeah, I guess it was him offering the gifts.

Yeah. Well, Heflin was arrested and charged with bribery, official misconduct and conspiracy to commit escape. Pike was not charged and it was unclear to the investigators if she was a participant in the theory, other than being aware of it. Oh, come on.

Yeah. Go ahead and prove whatever. On May 31st, 2012, Coet was sentenced to seven years in prison and that would be served at the Tennessee State Northeast Correctional Complex. Heflin, who did cooperate with authorities after his arrest, served no prison time.

However, he was fired. I would say that'd be pretty hard to continue your job. Yeah, he was he was fired. Yeah.

All right. Let's talk about the scheduled execution. Okay. On August 27th, 2020, Tennessee Attorney General Herbert Slattery's office requested the Tennessee Supreme Court to set an execution date for Pike due to the COVID-19 pandemic in Tennessee and other various factors that Pikes attorneys were granted extension by the court, allowing them more time to argue to why Pike should not be executed.

They said the state the state did not oppose this extension. And on June 7th, 2021, Pikes attorneys filed a motion to oppose execution date and request a certificate of I can never say this word. Commutation? Sure.

Commutation? Yeah. However, you want to say it. This motion was denied though.

That's so good. Good work out. Prior to November, 2022, Pike had completely exhausted all appeal processes. However, in November, 2022, the state Supreme Court found the state's law for juveniles automatically sentenced to life in prison without a chance at parole was unconstitutional.

Good for her. So on August 30th, 2023, lawyers for Pike used the November 2022 Supreme Court ruling in an attempt to reopen her bid to have her 1996 conviction and sentence thrown out. Her lawyers argued her young age and damage mental health at the time of the killings should spare her from facing execution. In October, 2023, Knox County Criminal Court Judge Scott Green denied this request saying the 2022 ruling didn't apply to her.

He said the Booker case addressed only juvenile offenders in Tennessee. Judge Green noted the High Court and the opinion written by now retired justice chairmanly specifically addressed the question of juveniles, not adults. This ruling applies only to juvenile homicide offenders, not to adult offenders. Good.

So like, I don't know why they were trying to defend the law here. Pike was a legal adult at the time of the murders. As of March 10th, 2024, good. So just a few months ago, we not just kill this woman and be done.

Sure can't. The state has not yet said an execution date. Just don't know. I mean, she's going to die of like pneumonia, but you know, yeah, yeah, faces death row.

If she is executed, she would be the first woman to be executed in Tennessee in roughly 200 years. 200 years. Holy mackerel. Yep.

So the murder of Colleen Summer was featured on TV shows, Deadly Women, For My Man, Killer Kids, Martinis and Murder, and Snapped Killer Couples. There was a book also written about the murder called A Love to Die For by Patricia Springer. And that is the story of Christopher Pike and the murder of Colleen Summer, which is of a lot horrific. Yeah.

Yeah. Man. And then then we made a connection. And then we made a connection.

Yeah. Wow. Yeah. I can't believe that.

Four years ago, you told that story. And here we are today. Bringing it back. Bringing criminals together.

Bringing them together. That's crazy. And I mean, they both were around the same age and similar interests in the occult. Yeah.

I guess that's why they connected. Because there was something about, and forgive me, but it's been four years, the way the bodies were positioned in the Lilyland story kind of looked like a pentagram, the way they were. So it speaks to this crime as well. And it seems like they had a lot of commonalities.

Yeah. Absolutely. They find each other. Yeah.

How creepy. Well, that's it. Well, that was amazing. Yeah.

What a wild tale. Right. Terrible. Terrible.

Terrible tale. But, you know, just go to the woods to smoke weed. Just don't. I mean, yeah.

Just get your lead at the dispensary and go home and use them for medicinal purposes, which is really, really good. Listen, I think somebody has been smoking weed in the apartments behind my home because I stepped outside this morning. I got high. Pretty much.

Either that or there have been some stonks fornicating aggressively near my house. Because, and then like, and then the difference between the stonks smell and weed smell. I'm going to get a similar, but like, I watched out with my name. I was like, that's definitely weed.

That is definitely weed. Or sex. And then I got home this afternoon and on the front porch, it still smelled like it. And I was like, man, now I'm thinking maybe it's called.

Now they're doing it here. And then I left and smelled it again. And as I drove past my house after I dropped my dog off, smelled it again. I'm like, that's gotta be that's gotta be that's gotta be sex.

I smell sex and marijuana here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You ever heard that song sex and candy? No. I smell sex and candy. Terrible smell.

Sex and candy. Sweat them. Yeah. And let me just say, both things.

So marijuana on its own has a certain smell that you're like, oh yeah. Like, when I walk into the DG, I feel like I smell marijuana. Yeah. So whoever's working there is probably, you know, smoking or whatever.

And then sex, you can always smell that. I think you can. Gross. Like, I, yeah, I just think that yeah.

Girl. Sex has a scent. It does. It does.

I believe you. Gross. Anywho. Um, I'm sitting over here in shame.

On that happy note. I see you're down if it was skunked or sex. I didn't. Um, we've skunked sex and marijuana.

I have it. Hopefully when I return home this evening, oh, fingers crossed, the smell is dissipated. But we'll see. Maybe skunks having sex, smoking pot.

Maybe. I mean, I make sure it's all three because they got high. Like, I mean, you know, they were like, wow, you look hot. Pass that around.

Yeah. Maybe. Well, we better in. We should.

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It looks like it could be friends. You know, it's a friends. It's just for the head for sure. Yeah.

Or just a lot of piles of poop. The poop emoji just over and over again. It's not shit. Yeah.

One of those. Thank you. All right. Well, I don't know about these emojis, but let me give a shout out before we go to Carmel or Caramel.

However, you know, Indiana, that sounds delicious. Sounds like wonder if they are the home of Caramel. I don't know. I say caramel.

I say caramel. Okay. We're you're different, but we still love murder. So, you know, and caramel.

And yeah, that's right. Yeah. All right. Next week.

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