EPISODE · Jul 3, 2026 · 1H 29M
Zack Telander: Chris Williamson, Diplo & the Fight for Human Music
from The Stephan Hogan Podcast · host Stephan Hogan
Zack Telander joins The Stephan Hogan Podcast for a conversation about Chris Williamson, Modern Wisdom, Diplo, AI music, fatherhood, creativity, and the fight to keep art human.Many people know Zack through Olympic weightlifting, YouTube, Modern Wisdom, or his friendship with Chris Williamson. But this conversation goes deeper than the clips. Zack shares how he went from fitness creator to songwriter, the moment Chris Williamson encouraged him to record his music, and why that belief changed the direction of his life.We also talk about Zack’s strong stance on AI music, Diplo, Suno, Udio, stolen art, and what happens when people outside of the music community try to decide the future of music for artists, musicians, and fans.But this episode is not just about AI.It is about imposter syndrome, self-awareness, fatherhood, marriage, authenticity, the pressure to constantly post, the loss of artistic mystery, and the tension of trying to make real music in a world that keeps turning everything into content.If you discovered Zack through Modern Wisdom, Chris Williamson, weightlifting, music, or his viral thoughts on AI, this conversation shows the fuller human story behind the opinions.This is a conversation about music, meaning, friendship, Nashville, Austin, rock and roll, country music, and why human-made art still matters.Chapters:00:00:00 Zack Telander on AI Music and the Future of Artists00:06:16 From Olympic Weightlifting to Telling Stories Online00:09:58 Chris Williamson, Belief, and the Song That Changed Everything00:16:15 What Makes Music Actually Matter?00:22:30 Imposter Syndrome, Self-Awareness, and the Artist’s Struggle00:30:00 Why Real Connection Still Wins00:33:45 Musicians, AI, and Protecting Human Creativity00:38:44 How Artists Can Measure Real Wins00:45:00 AI, the Music Gold Rush, and Who Really Profits00:49:59 Authenticity, Live Music, and the Human Element00:57:29 Why Zack Is Chasing Alt Pop Rock01:03:45 Marriage, Fatherhood, and Making No Money Chasing a Dream01:07:30 The Creative Cost of Chasing a Dream01:12:30 Country Music, Genre Bubbles, and Industry Influence01:18:45 Austin vs Nashville and the Reality of the Music Scene01:25:01 Staying Grounded as an ArtistPartner Links:Stay at The Countrypolitan Hotel:https://shorturl.at/JtN6rBank with Studio Bank:https://www.studiobank.com/Drink Stage Water:https://stagewater.com/Clothing by Simon Says Nashville:https://www.simonsaysnashville.com/Subscribe to The Stephan Hogan Podcast for more conversations with artists, songwriters, music executives, entrepreneurs, and creative leaders shaping the future of music, business, and culture.Connect with The Stephan Hogan Podcast:TikTok:https://www.tiktok.com/@stephanhoganInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/stephanhoganFacebook:https://www.facebook.com/stephanhoganEmail:[email protected] in Nashville, TNProduced by Stephan HoganA Mavericks Media Co. Production
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Zack Telander joins The Stephan Hogan Podcast for a conversation about Chris Williamson, Modern Wisdom, Diplo, AI music, fatherhood, creativity, and the fight to keep art human. Many people know Zack through Olympic weightlifting, YouTube, Modern Wisdom, or his friendship with Chris Williamson. But this conversation goes deeper than the clips. Zack shares how he went from fitness creator to songwriter, the moment Chris Williamson encouraged him to record his music, and why that belief changed...
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