2Gen Learning Podcast

Summer isn’t just time off—it’s time to level up. Join us as we dive into why reflection, rejuvenation, and personal growth are critical parts of the educator’s journey. Inspired by Carol Dweck’s growth mindset, we share ideas for making the most of this season so you return stronger, wiser, and more energized than ever. As another school year comes to a close, educators face a unique opportunity—not just to rest, but to reflect, rejuvenate, and grow. In this episode, we explore why summer isn’t simply a break from the work but an essential part of the cycle that makes great teaching and leadership possible.Drawing on the principles of Carol Dweck’s growth mindset, we discuss how intentional reflection can help educators recharge their energy, sharpen their purpose, and prepare for the year ahead with renewed passion. Whether you’re looking to fill your own tank or rethink your professional journey, this conversation offers practical insights and encouragement for making the most of this pivotal season.And because balance matters too, stick around for some fun as we shift gears to talk NBA Finals, Formula 1, and other topics.

🎙️ Episode 21: Opportunity Creators in the Age of AIWhat happens when artificial intelligence can answer almost any question? In Episode 21 of the 2Gen Learning Podcast, Mike and Logan explore why the future belongs not just to problem-solvers, but to opportunity creators. From entrepreneurship and innovation to the evolving purpose of schools, they discuss how educators can prepare students for a world where information is abundant, change is constant, and uniquely human skills like creativity, curiosity, leadership, and adaptability matter more than ever. Join us for a lively conversation about the future of learning, the entrepreneurial mindset, and why the next generation may need to create opportunities rather than simply pursue them.🎙️🚀🤖💡🎓🌎

🎙️ In Episode 20 of the 2Gen Learning Podcast, Mike and Logan sit down to explore the heart of "being home" and the transformative power of language acquisition! 🏠 This week, the duo dives into how schools can "lean in" to the value of multilingualism by moving away from traditional rote learning and toward natural, immersive acquisition that treats a student’s native tongue as a true superpower. 🦸‍♂️✨ From discussing the bilingual-trilingual brain boost 🧠 to sharing strategies on how educators can partner with families to keep heritage languages alive, this episode is a deep dive into building bridges between the classroom and the living room. 🌉 Whether you're a teacher looking to unlock student potential or a parent navigating cultural identity, join the conversation on how we can turn every word into a connection! 🗣️ language 🌍💖

🏫➡️🌍 Learning Beyond the Walls & Halls - Some of the most powerful learning doesn’t happen in classrooms.In this episode, Mike and Logan explore what learning looks like when it’s unstructured, authentic, and rooted in real life. From curiosity-driven experiences to learning that emerges through exploration and connection, they unpack why informal environments often produce the deepest growth.✨ Why does unstructured learning matter? 🔍 How do we recognize it when it’s happening? 🧠 How can schools, educators, and families intentionally leverage real-world learning for students?This conversation challenges traditional assumptions about where learning happens—and invites us to rethink how we prepare students for a complex, dynamic world.

Episode 18: “The Essentials of School Leadership: Building Teams That Thrive” In this episode of 2Gen Learning, Mike Cobb and Logan Birgenheier move from desert adventures—camel spiders and scorpions included—to the heart of what makes great schools great: strong, collaborative leadership. Mike unpacks the core principles he’s used to lead effective, mission-driven teams, while Logan offers a modern lens on communication, trust, and innovation in today’s schools. A lively, insight-filled conversation for anyone passionate about purposeful leadership and the power of people working together.

In this episode, Mike and Logan catch up after some local travels and dive into a lively conversation exploring the generational differences between Gen X and Millennials. From how they view work and communication to the way they approach travel, learning, and life, the two bring their unique perspectives and plenty of laughs.It’s a fun and thoughtful dialogue that highlights how generational contrast can spark understanding, growth, and a fresh way of looking at the world.#2GenLearning #Podcast #GenX #Millennials #GenerationalDifferences #LifelongLearning #MikeCobb

🎙️ 2-Gen Learning: Lessons Beyond the Classroom 💡 What Can the Education Industry Learn from other IndustriesWelcome to the podcast that bridges generations, classrooms, and boardrooms. Each episode, we explore what education can learn from other industries — from corporate innovation 🚀 to design thinking 🎨, leadership strategies 👩‍💼, and even wellness practices 🌿.👨‍👩‍👧 Two generations. Two perspectives. Together, we dig into stories, tools, and insights that challenge the status quo of schooling and open new pathways for preparing future leaders.✨ Whether you’re an educator, entrepreneur, or lifelong learner, you’ll leave with fresh ideas, practical takeaways, and inspiration to reimagine learning for tomorrow.🔑 Key themes we unpack:🚀 Innovation & agility from the corporate world🤝 Collaboration & leadership across generations🎨 Creativity and design in education systems🌍 Global trends shaping how we learn and work🐐 And don’t miss our signature closing segment: The GOAT Questions — where we share our two-generational takes on “the greatest of all time” in everything from ideas to icons.

🎙️ Welcome to the 2Gen Learning Podcast with Mike Cobb and Logan Birgenheier! In this episode, we dive into everything from 80s music, karaoke, and travel stories to sports, uniforms, and the world of education—and a whole lot more. With Gen X wisdom and Millennial musings, we bring energy, laughs, and a few unexpected connections along the way.

🤖 AI Meets Education – Mike Cobb (Gen X) and Logan Birgenheier (Millennial) explore how artificial intelligence is impacting teaching and learning. 📈 Emerging Trends – From adaptive learning systems to AI-driven tools, discover what’s on the horizon. 🎤 Two Perspectives, One Vision – A lively cross-generational conversation on keeping education human in an AI-powered world. Along the way, they reference resources like Epoch Ai (https://epoch.ai), research from Stanford’s Human-Centered AI (https://hai.stanford.edu), and other leading-edge resources that shed light on how schools can learn and respond to AI responsibly and effectively.

🔄 Trends, Routines, and the Rhythm of Learning In this episode, hosts Mike Cobb (Gen X) and Logan Birgenheier (Millennial) explore how trends and routines can be powerful tools for growth in education—and how they can also become traps if we’re not intentional. Drawing from examples in daily life and the classroom, they unpack how habits shape both teaching and learning, when to lean into structure, and when to break free for innovation. Mike and Logan connect these ideas to educational practices and share strategies for staying fresh, adaptive, and inspired.

In this insightful episode of the 2Gen Learning Podcast, our two hosts, Mike Cobb (Gen Xer) and Logan  Birgenheier (Millennial)—reconnect to reflect on their shared journey in education that began in Saudi Arabia and continues to evolve in dynamic ways around the world.They explore how their generational differences often sparked new perspectives, especially when confronting the shifting landscape of learning, leadership, and technology. One host now works across U.S. campuses as a strategic consultant, while the other leads international project development and market analysis for global schools.🎯 Key Themes Explored:🧭 The Shift from School-Based Leadership to System-Level Strategy How stepping away from daily school life brings new insights—and challenges.🤝 What We Miss Most The joy, chaos, and community of being on campus full-time, and how that fuels the passion for impact.⚙️ The Beauty of Decision-Making Reflections on the fast-paced nature of leadership in schools vs. the slower, strategic tempo of consultancy.🤖 Honoring the Proven While Embracing the New Balancing foundational educational practices with the rise of emerging technologies like AI.🌍 Global Perspectives on Innovation What international schools are doing differently—and what we can learn from them.🕰️ Then and Now: A Cross-Generational Look at Education & CultureIn a lighthearted and nostalgic segment, the hosts compare life in the classroom and beyond—from the 1970s and 1990s to today—highlighting how generational experiences have shaped their views on learning and leadership.Technology in School:📽️ Gen X had film strips and overhead projectors💾 Millennials had computer labs and floppy disks🤖 Today’s learners are exploring AI tools, VR, and personalized appsCommunication:☎️ From landlines and handwritten notes💻 To instant messaging and early email🌍 To global collaboration on WhatsApp, Slack, and TeamsStudent Life:🧢 Walkmans and chalkboards📟 MP3 players and themed binders🎧 Streaming playlists and mindfulness zonesThis segment brings humor, heart, and perspective—reminding us how much has changed, and how much still connects us across generations.Whether you're a lifelong educator, a curious futurist, or someone navigating the education sector in transition, this conversation offers inspiration, wisdom, and some well-earned laughter between friends dedicated to the future of learning.

🎙️ 2Gen Learning Podcast | Episode 11: “Books, Books and Books” 📚 A special edition celebrating the power of books to shape how we lead, learn, and live.This episode is all about the books that left a mark on our hearts, minds, and missions. We share our most impactful reads — from building trust and navigating life’s transitions to learning from cowboys, comedians, coders, and anthropologists. Whether you’re a lifelong learner, a leader, or someone looking for your next transformative read, this episode is your new TBR goldmine.🔥 Featured Books:🧠 The Speed of Trust by Stephen M. R. Covey 📖 Buy on Amazon »🔄 Transitions: Making Sense of Life's Changes by William Bridges 📖 Buy on Amazon »❤️ Dare to Lead by Brené Brown (representing her body of work) 📖 Buy on Amazon »🌿 Greenlights by Matthew McConaughey 📖 Buy on Amazon »🎭 Yes, And by Kelly Leonard & Tom Yorton (from Second City) 📖 Buy on Amazon »🧩 Scrum: The Art of Doing Twice the Work in Half the Time by Jeff Sutherland 📖 Buy on Amazon »🤝 How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie 📖 Buy on Amazon »🌍 Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies by Jared Diamond 📖 Buy on Amazon »🎧 Tune in now and fill your shelf with wisdom! 💬 Tell us which book changed your thinking — we’re always ready to read.

🎙️ Episode 10 Title: Thriving in the Digital Age: 2Gen Perspectives on Communication, Social Media & Emerging Tech🧠 What We Talked About: Mike Cobb and Logan Birgenheier dive into conversations about modern communication, social media, and emerging technologies, exploring how these tools impact our lives from two different generational perspectives — but always with an eye toward thriving today and into the future.⚖️ Pros & Cons: We explore the benefits and challenges of digital tools — from staying connected to information overload. Throughout the conversation, we emphasize that technology is just a tool — it's up to us to decide how we use it.📣 Shout Out: Mike gives a big shout out to The Social Institute and Laura Tierney for their work in helping students and families navigate social media and technology positively.🔮 Looking Ahead: How can we make intentional choices today to set ourselves — and future generations — up for success in a rapidly evolving tech landscape?

🎙️ Episode 8 - 2Gen Learning Podcast: Deep Thoughts with Guest, Clayton Boren 🎉In this episode, Mike and Logan are joined by good friend Clayton Boren for a thought-provoking conversation filled with deep reflections and fun travel stories 🌍✈️. We dive into the intersection of education 📚 and personal growth, exploring how experiences shape us both in and out of the classroom. Clayton shares some unforgettable travel adventures and we discuss what it truly means to celebrate life 🎂✨.Tune in for insightful moments and laughs along the way! 😄 #2GenLearning #TravelStories #BirthdayVibes

🎉 Episode 8 - You Say It's Your Birthday | 2Gen Learning Podcast 🎉In this milestone episode, we’re celebrating the power of the number 8! Join Mike and Logan as they dive into birthday traditions, goal setting, and how to make every year more meaningful. We jump into a fun and thought-provoking game of "Crazy, Maybe, Of Course" and wrap it up with a nostalgic flashback to our favorite memories from the 1980s.Whether you're here for inspiration, a trip down memory lane, or just some good old-fashioned fun, this episode has something for everyone. Let’s celebrate, reflect, and look ahead together! 🎂🎈👉 Tune in now and let’s make Episode 8 unforgettable!

🎙️ Episode 6 - 2Gen Learning Podcast: "It's A New Year" 🍂🦃Get ready for a festive and fun-filled chat as hosts Mike Cobb (Gen X) and Logan Birgenheier (Millennial) dive into thoughts on a New Year! 🍁We’re serving up:✈️ Holiday travel tales (the good, the bad, and the chaotic!)🇦🇺 A hop to Australia – because why not mix it up?🛍️ Nostalgic shopping sprees – from malls of the '80s to online clicks of today!🍂 Power of Transitions and Atomic Habits!📅 New Year vibes – how each generation views the markers of time and life’s big chapters.It’s a feast of perspectives, laughter, and maybe a little friendly Gen X vs. Millennial banter. Pull up a chair and join the conversation! 🎧✨

Episode 6 of The 2 Gen Learning Podcast🎙️ Episode Title:"Thanksgiving Traditions, College & Career Futures, and Education Insights"📅 Hosts:Mike Cobb & Logan BirgenheierEpisode Highlights:🦃 Thanksgiving TraditionsMike and Logan share their favorite Thanksgiving memories and traditions.Exploring how holiday traditions can bring families together and create lasting bonds.A quick discussion about Thanksgiving foods—what makes the perfect plate?📆 School Calendar InsightsA dive into the challenges and opportunities of structuring school calendars.Balancing tradition with innovation: Are there better ways to align calendars with student needs?Reflections on the impact of holidays and breaks on student engagement and performance.🎓 Future of College & Career PreparationTrends in preparing students for life beyond high school.How schools can balance traditional academic paths with emerging career-focused opportunities.Predictions about how technology and global shifts may reshape college and career readiness.🏈 A Little College Football FunWrapping up with some lighthearted banter about college football.

In this episode, Mike Cobb and Logan Birgenheier dive deep into the concept of empowerment in education, exploring what it means for teachers, administrators, and school leaders. How can leadership practices foster a culture of empowerment, and what role does professional development play in this process? We discuss the balance between accountability and empowerment, and how avoiding micromanagement can unlock greater potential within educational teams.We also share real-world examples of empowerment, both positive and negative, and explore how creating empowered environments can transform schools. From referencing icons like Michael Jordan and Eddie Van Halen to discussing the “Flow State” by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi and Evans’ Design Your Life, we bring in frameworks for applying empowerment principles. Listen for actionable takeaways, including advice on building trust, autonomy, and success through empowerment.

Join Mike Cobb and Logan Birgenheier in the latest episode of 2 Gen Learning as they dive deep into their recent career travels and life! 🌍In this episode, they explore the nuances of living and working abroad, sharing personal reflections and insights that only come from global experience. They'll also be discussing the future of education, offering bold predictions and thoughtful analysis on how learning will evolve in the coming years. 📚🚀Whether you're an expat, educator, or lifelong learner, this episode is packed with wisdom, humor, and forward-thinking ideas! Tune in to be part of the conversation shaping tomorrow’s world.🔊 Available on all major podcast platforms!#2GenLearning #GlobalEducation #ExpatLife #FutureOfLearning #PodcastPromo

In this episode, Mike Cobb and Logan Birgenheier reflect on their recent career transitions and discuss the lessons they've learned during these pivotal moments. The conversation then shifts to the importance of fostering resilience in students, a quality that is more crucial than ever in today's rapidly changing world. Mike and Logan explore how schools can embed the power of transitions and resilience into their curricula through authentic learning experiences, equipping students with the tools they need to navigate challenges and thrive.Key Topics Discussed:Career Transitions: Mike and Logan open the episode by sharing updates on their recent career changes, offering personal insights into how they've navigated these transitions. They discuss the importance of adaptability and the growth that comes from stepping into new roles.The Importance of Resilience: The hosts dive into why resilience is a critical skill for students to develop. They talk about how experiencing and overcoming challenges can strengthen students' ability to cope with adversity, bounce back from setbacks, and maintain a positive mindset.Embedding Transitions and Resilience in Schools: Mike and Logan explore strategies for embedding the concepts of transitions and resilience into school programs. They discuss how authentic learning experiences—such as project-based learning, service opportunities, and real-world problem-solving—can help students practice and build resilience in meaningful ways.Authentic Learning: The conversation highlights the role of authentic learning in helping students make connections between their experiences and the development of resilience. Mike and Logan provide examples of how schools can create environments that encourage students to embrace challenges and grow from them.Olympic Basketball: As in previous episodes, the hosts can't resist discussing a little Olympic basketball. They share their thoughts on the latest games, drawing parallels between the resilience displayed by athletes and the lessons students can learn from sports.

In this episode, Mike Cobb and Logan Birgenheier dive into the enriching experiences of their recent travels and explore why travel is such a crucial element in education. They discuss the profound impact that exposure to different cultures, environments, and perspectives can have on students, emphasizing the importance of global competencies in today’s interconnected world. Mike and Logan advocate for travel as a means of fostering authentic learning experiences that go beyond the classroom, equipping students with the skills and understanding they need to thrive in a global society.Key Topics Discussed:Recent Travels: Mike and Logan share highlights from their recent trips, reflecting on the educational insights and personal growth they gained from their journeys.The Importance of Travel for Students: The hosts discuss how travel can broaden students' horizons, enhance cultural awareness, and build essential life skills. They argue that travel experiences are vital in developing global competencies, such as cross-cultural communication, adaptability, and empathy.Global Competencies: The conversation delves into what global competencies entail and why they are critical for students in the 21st century. Mike and Logan emphasize the need for educators to integrate these competencies into their teaching to prepare students for a globally connected world.Authentic Learning: The episode explores the concept of authentic learning and how travel can provide students with real-world contexts to apply their knowledge and skills. The hosts discuss examples of how travel experiences can be integrated into curricula to make learning more relevant and impactful.Olympic Basketball: To wrap up the episode, Mike and Logan switch gears and chat about the latest in Olympic basketball. They share their thoughts on the games, key players, and what the sport can teach us about teamwork, perseverance, and global unity.Final Thoughts: Mike and Logan encourage educators and parents alike to consider the immense benefits of travel as a tool for learning. Whether it’s a local field trip or an international exchange program, the hosts believe that every travel experience has the potential to shape a student's future.

In this engaging episode of the 2 Gen Podcast, hosts Mike Cobb and Logan Birgenheier delve into a wide range of topics shaping the future of education and beyond. From international education to micro-credentialing, personalized learning to the role of AI in education, listeners are taken on a thought-provoking journey through the evolving landscape of learning.The hosts also touch upon the concept of place-based learning, emphasizing the importance of connecting education to real-world experiences and environments. They share insights on the benefits of international travel for broadening perspectives and fostering cultural understanding among students. Moreover, technology's impact on education is explored, highlighting its potential to enhance learning outcomes and create more engaging educational experiences. Listeners are treated to their sharing about what they are listening to and House of Dragons.Overall, this episode of the 2 Gen Podcast provides a comprehensive look at the diverse factors influencing education today and offers valuable insights into how we can shape a more innovative and inclusive learning environment for future generations.