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Theresa Hubbard, the powerhouse CEO of Fractured Atlas, joins NOT REAL ART this week for a lively chat about collaborating on the Arthouse project, an unscripted TV show that aims to connect real people with real artists to buy original art without breaking the bank. During our conversation, Theresa emphasizes the importance of fiscal sponsorship for artists and creative projects like Arthouse, illustrating how Fractured Atlas has evolved from a production company into a crucial service for artists over the years. We dive into the fantastic work Fractured Atlas does to support creatives through crowdfunding, making it significantly easier for them to get their projects off the ground. Theresa shares insights from her role within the organization and highlights how they’ve adapted to meet the needs of artists across the nation. Arthouse, as we explore, isn’t just a show; it’s a movement designed to demystify the art world and help everyday folks discover the beauty of original art. The initiative also showcases artists from diverse backgrounds, emphasizing the importance of highlighting art beyond major markets. Special thanks to Fractured Atlas for their continued support of Arthouse. To learn more about Arthouse, support its mission, or nominate your favorite artist for future episodes, please visit Arthouse on Indiegogo. For more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/fractured-atlas-arthouse

Art has an extraordinary ability to connect people, and director Laura Patterson is on a mission to make it accessible to everyone through her groundbreaking new project, Arthouse. This unscripted TV show allows real people to meet real artists and acquire art without breaking the bank, sidestepping the intimidation often associated with traditional galleries.With over 25 years of experience directing popular shows like Unsolved Mysteries and House Hunters, Laura’s career path has been shaped by her upbringing in a family devoted to the performing arts. This background has given her a profound understanding of storytelling, especially in conveying complex narratives in the unscripted genre. In our chat, she highlights the emotional depth of these real-life stories and the art of approaching them with a delicate touch.In line with Laura’s mission, Arthouse aims to change how we see art in our lives, whether you’re a homeowner or a renter. By blending her extensive experience in storytelling with a commitment to making art accessible, Laura is reshaping the way we engage with art and fostering a greater appreciation for the narratives behind it. Her insights into indie TV and the importance of accessibility in the arts make Arthouse not just a show but a movement aimed at demystifying the art world, ensuring that everyone, regardless of their financial status, has access to the arts. To learn more about Arthouse, support its mission, or nominate your favorite artist for future episodes, please visit Arthouse on Indiegogo. For more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/laura-patterson-arthouse

What if an artist-focused TV series filmed an episode in your hometown? Which artist would you want to meet? Who would you recommend?Now, art lovers will have the chance to nominate an artist or city of their choice for Arthouse, a groundbreaking TV series that promises to bridge the gap between authentic artists and the communities that often overlook their talent. Produced by Crewest Studios and supported by NOT REAL ART fiscal sponsor Arterial, Arthouse aims to peel back the layers of the art world, sharing the personal stories of regional artists and their collectors.With a mission to democratize art, Arthouse empowers viewers to curate authentic artwork that aligns with their tastes without straining their budgets. The show's concept centers on eliminating intimidation in art collecting, providing local artists with a platform to showcase their work directly to buyers.To support this vision, Arthouse has launched a crowdfunding campaign to raise $150,000 to produce a full-length pilot episode. Set in Chicago, the pilot will follow an individual or family as they explore local art scenes, visit artist studios, and make informed purchasing decisions with the help of host Carmen Acosta. The campaign, running from June 10 to July 25, 2025, on Indiegogo, offers a unique opportunity for art lovers to contribute to a project that aims to transform the way we perceive and appreciate art in our daily lives. With a $40 donation, anyone can nominate an artist or city of their choice to appear on Arthouse. Listen to today’s episode to learn more about the project, or nominate an artist for Arthouse here.

In today’s episode, we shine a spotlight on Linc Thelen, a Chicago-based artist who plays a key role in Arthouse, an unscripted home design television show. Produced by Crewest Studio and supported by the nonprofit Arterial, NOT REAL ART’s fiscal sponsor, Arthouse aims to bridge the gap between talented artists and everyday people, redefining how art is experienced in personal spaces. With a mission to democratize art, Arthouse empowers viewers to curate authentic artwork that aligns with their tastes without straining their budgets. The show's concept centers on eliminating intimidation in art collecting, providing local artists with a platform to showcase their work directly to buyers.To support this vision, Arthouse is launching a crowdfunding campaign to raise $150,000 to produce a full-length pilot episode. Set in Chicago, the pilot will follow an individual or family as they explore local art scenes, visit artist studios, and make informed purchasing decisions with the help of host Carmen Acosta. The campaign, running from June 10 to July 25, 2025, on Indiegogo, offers a unique opportunity for art lovers to contribute to a project that aims to transform the way we perceive and appreciate art in our daily lives.As the featured artist in the Arthouse sizzle reel, filmed in Chicago last year, Linc brings a unique perspective on how this groundbreaking initiative is reshaping the relationship between artists and the public. With a mission to connect real people with authentic art, Arthouse aims to eliminate the barriers that often separate original artwork from everyday life. Linc also shares his artistic evolution, discussing the challenges he has faced while navigating the contemporary art scene. His involvement with Arthouse reflects his deep commitment to making art accessible to everyone, not just art collectors and gallery-goers. Throughout our conversation, Linc emphasizes the importance of fostering emotional connections through art, reminding us that the true value of a piece lies in its ability to resonate with individuals on a personal level. Listen to our conversation with Linc Thelen on the player above, or support Arthouse here. Links mentioned in this episode: ArterialArthouseArthouse on IndiegogoArtsvilleUSACrewest StudioFirst Friday ExhibitionsLinc ThelenLinc Thelen on InstagramNOT REAL ARTNOT REAL ART PodcastRemote Video SeriesScott “Sourdough” PowerFor more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/linc-thelen-arthouse

In today’s episode, we’re thrilled to welcome Carmen Acosta, also known as Jane Dope, back to the podcast. The experienced LA artist and curator will soon assume her new role as host of the unscripted home design television show “Arthouse.” Produced by Crewest Studio and supported by the nonprofit Arterial, NOT REAL ART’s fiscal sponsor, “Arthouse” aims to bridge the gap between talented artists and everyday people, redefining how art is experienced in personal spaces. With a mission to democratize art, “Arthouse” empowers viewers to curate authentic artwork that aligns with their tastes without straining their budgets. The show's concept centers on eliminating intimidation in art collecting, providing local artists with a platform to showcase their work directly to buyers.To support this vision, “Arthouse” is launching a crowdfunding campaign with a goal of raising $150,000 to produce a full-length pilot episode. Set in Chicago, the pilot will follow an individual or family as they explore local art scenes, visit artist studios, and make informed purchasing decisions with help from Carmen. The campaign, running from June 10 to July 25, 2025, on Indiegogo, offers a unique opportunity for art lovers to contribute to a project that aims to transform the way we perceive and appreciate art in our daily lives.Scott “Sourdough” Power, the creator of “Arthouse” and NOT REAL ART, as well as the visionary behind the nonprofit arts media platform Arterial, emphasizes that the show is more than just a way to sell art—it's about cultivating emotional connections between artists, buyers, and viewers. As Carmen steps into her role, she’s eager to lead this movement that celebrates creativity and makes art accessible for all. Don’t miss her insights on how “Arthouse” aims to reshape the way we engage with art and artists alike.Links mentioned in this episode: ArterialArthouseArtsvilleUSACarmen AcostaCarmen Acosta on InstagramCarmen Acosta on NOT REAL ARTCrewest StudioFirst Friday ExhibitionsNOT REAL ARTNOT REAL ART PodcastRemote Video SeriesScott “Sourdough” PowerFor more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/arthouse-host-carmen-acosta

In this week’s episode, host Scott “Sourdough” Power welcomes Vincent Bragg and Joe Michael Nickson, the co-founders of ConCreates, a creative agency that elevates the talents of individuals with criminal backgrounds. Vincent and Joe, both former inmates who met in prison, tell us how their lived experiences inspired them to challenge societal stereotypes surrounding incarceration and led to the founding of ConCreates. ConCreates connects currently and formerly incarcerated individuals—known as ConCreators—with established brands, like Meta and Google, seeking innovative perspectives. The agency aims to provide these individuals with meaningful work and fair compensation that matches their skill sets. A key aspect of their values is the belief that diversity benefits businesses and, more importantly, that it fosters creativity. Vincent and Joe discuss how their unique insights attract major corporate partners, allowing them to disrupt conventional marketing narratives with authentic stories.This episode explores how ConCreates empowers its ConCreators, demonstrating that creativity can emerge from adversity when the right conditions are present. Vincent and Joe’s mission goes beyond generating ideas; it's about diversity of perspective and giving talented people a well-deserved second chance. Links mentioned in this episode:ArterialArthouseArtsvilleUSAConCreatesConCreates on FacebookConCreates on InstagramCrewest StudioFirst Friday ExhibitionsNOT REAL ARTNOT REAL ART PodcastRemote Video SeriesScott “Sourdough” PowerFor more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/concreates

Forget the sales gimmicks—“Arthouse” is here to support artists sidelined by the traditional gallery model. In today's episode, our host, Scott “Sourdough” Power, founder of nonprofit media platform Arterial, discusses the concept behind “Arthouse,” an innovative TV series currently in pre-production. This series, which is fiscally sponsored by Arterial, aims to connect artists directly with buyers, eliminating the need for middlemen or galleries.“Arthouse” is all about community engagement. Each episode will feature a family, a couple, or an individual interested in purchasing original art from a local artist but feels intimidated and unsure where to start, often working within a budget of just $500 to $1,000. The “Arthouse” team will meet with prospective buyers in their homes to better understand their needs, tastes, and living situation. Then, he takes them to visit the studios of three talented artists from their community. This immersive experience allows them to learn about the artists’ practices and the stories behind their creations. Scott believes that by directly connecting these buyers with local artists, “Arthouse” can recalibrate public perceptions of art ownership and make it more accessible to everyone. He emphasizes the socioeconomic dynamics that often deter people from investing in original artwork, noting that a lack of knowledge and exposure plays a significant role in this issue. By fostering open dialogues about personal tastes and accessibility, he aspires to cultivate a culture where original art is not merely reserved for the elite but is embraced and appreciated by all.Tune into this episode to learn more about “Arthouse,” or subscribe to our newsletter to stay updated on the latest “Arthouse” news.Links mentioned in this episode: ArterialArthouseArtsvilleUSACrewest StudioFirst Friday ExhibitionsNOT REAL ARTNOT REAL ART PodcastRemote Season OneRemote Season Two Sneak PeekScott “Sourdough” PowerFor more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/introducing-arthouse

Public art in America transforms ordinary streets into extraordinary canvases for everyone to enjoy. Today, we welcome back filmmaker Badir McCleary for a sneak peek into Remote, his documentary series on contemporary public art. In this episode, Badir gives our host, Scott “Sourdough” Power, the inside scoop on season two, slated for release on NOT REAL ART in July 2025. This season is all about changing how we think about public art—not just where to find it, but the deeper stories and themes behind it. Badir shares his vision for this new approach, encouraging us all to reflect on the societal narratives these works of art represent and their impact on our urban environments. Throughout the chat, he opens up about his personal experiences and the hurdles he faced while bringing this season to life. From logistical challenges to those unexpected moments that can change everything, Badir's insights highlight the creative process as fluid and evolving.His passion for public art is contagious, prompting us to see it as more than just something nice to look at. Badir invites us to treat these artworks as living pieces of our communities that spark conversations and reflections on human experiences. This episode is a reminder that art plays a crucial role in our lives, pushing us to engage more deeply with the world around us. Don’t miss this look at season two before its official release in July, or catch up on season one of Remote here. For more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/badir-mccleary-remote-season-two

What happens when the worlds of animation and fine art collide? This week on the NOT REAL ART podcast, host Scott "Sourdough" Power sits down with the talented Bob Boyle, an Emmy Award-winning animation creator whose work spans Disney to Netflix. In today’s episode, Bob dives into the fascinating connections and contrasts between animation and visual art. Drawing from his vast experience, he shares how his journey in animation has enriched his artistic expression, turning complex ideas into vivid, memorable visuals. But it’s not just about creating art; it’s about fostering community. Bob recounts heartwarming stories from art fairs and discusses his inspiring initiative, “art drops,” where he anonymously distributes original pieces in public spaces, sparking dialogue and connection among strangers. Throughout the conversation, Bob emphasizes the idea that art has the incredible power to transcend boundaries and unite people from all walks of life. His pieces, which he refers to as “hieroglyphs for the soul,” explore the struggles of the human spirit, resonating with anyone seeking clarity and hope amid life's chaos. Links Mentioned in This Episode:ArterialArtsvilleUSABob BoyleBob Boyle on InstagramCrewest StudioFirst Friday ExhibitionsNOT REAL ARTNOT REAL ART PodcastRemote Video SeriesScott “Sourdough” PowerFor more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/bob-boyle

In our fast-paced world, staying ahead creatively means rolling with the punches. This week on the podcast, host Scott Sourdough Power, founder of NOT REAL ART, talks with Mark Brickey, host of the acclaimed arts podcast Adventures in Design. Mark, who started as a musician, has made a name for himself as a content creator with a successful podcast and a YouTube channel, Hey Brickey, which focuses on Disney-themed content and boasts over four million views.During the episode, Mark shares his story and talks about how important it is for artists to be resilient and adaptable in today’s ever-changing creative landscape. He also dives into the power of storytelling and explores the challenges artists face in staying true to themselves while also trying to make a living. With over a thousand interviews under his belt with artists, designers, and makers, Mark brings a ton of experience and insight to the table.Scott and Mark go on to discuss how to balance the passion for art with the reality of making money, stressing just how vital it is to have a community of support among artists. Mark’s transition from music to podcasting and design is a powerful reminder of how we can embrace our creative roots while also welcoming new opportunities. This episode isn’t just an exploration of the creative process; it’s also a motivating nudge for our listeners who might be feeling stuck.If that sounds like you, tune in and hear how Mark’s approach to creativity and community helps him navigate an ever-evolving world.Links mentioned in this episode:Adventures in DesignArterialArtsvilleUSACrewest StudioFirst Friday ExhibitionsLincoln DesignMark BrickeyMark Brickey on InstagramMark Brickey on YouTubeNOT REAL ARTNOT REAL ART PodcastRemote Video SeriesScott “Sourdough” PowerFor more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/mark-brickey

What happens when a two-time Emmy Award-winning television executive decides to flip the script on her career? In this episode of the NOT REAL ART podcast, host Scott "Sourdough" Power uncovers the remarkable story of Shannon Malone-deBenedictis—a creative entrepreneur transforming the media landscape. From sharing the screen with Hollywood legends to forging her own path with the artist mentorship organization Padlin Creative, Shannon’s story is a powerful testament to resilience and authenticity. Throughout our conversation, we explore Shannon’s history in documentary filmmaking, where she’s had the privilege of working alongside legendary figures like James Cameron and Sigourney Weaver. It’s fascinating to hear her reflect on her transition from the bustling world of television to launching her own venture, Padlin Creative. This new endeavor is more than just a career shift for her; it’s a heartfelt mission. With the media landscape in constant flux, she’s deeply committed to mentoring creatives and providing them with the essential tools they need to thrive. Shannon also opens up about her experiences as a plus-size woman navigating an often critical industry. She bravely shares the societal pressures she's faced and advocates for a culture that promotes acceptance and self-empowerment. Her workshop, Fully Unapologetic, is a powerful call to action for women everywhere to embrace their true selves without fear or hesitation. It's a refreshing perspective that encourages confidence and self-worth, and it highlights how essential authenticity is to the creative process. Whether you’re an established artist or just starting out, Shannon’s insights will inspire you to embrace your identity and cultivate your creative journey unapologetically. Join us as we explore her mission and discover how embracing your true self can redefine success.Links mentioned in this episode:ArterialArtsvilleUSAFirst Friday ExhibitionsNOT REAL ARTNOT REAL ART PodcastPADLIN CREATIVERemote Video SeriesFor more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/shannon-malone-debenedictis-padlin-creative

Every brushstroke, every note, every pixel—what if your artwork could live forever? In this episode, you’ll discover why archiving your work isn’t just about saving files—it’s about preserving your legacy. Join host Scott "Sourdough" Power as he highlights the critical role of preserving artistic legacies for future generations, especially as creators navigate life's complexities and the reality of mortality.Scott shares a straightforward, step-by-step guide to help artists inventory their creations and choose the best storage methods. Listeners will explore various strategies for effective archiving, including how to compile a comprehensive inventory, organize physical storage, and develop a system that emphasizes the significance of each piece. Scott also underscores the necessity of estate planning and the value of designating a legacy keeper to honor an artist's wishes after they're gone.This episode serves as a rallying cry for artists to take proactive steps in documenting their work, alleviating pressure on their loved ones while safeguarding the integrity of their creative contributions. Tune in and discover how to ensure your artistic legacy lives on. Links mentioned in this episode:ArterialArtsvilleUSAArtwork ArchiveNOT REAL ARTFor more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/archiving-artwork

This week, the NOT REAL ART podcast features Casey Fletcher, a grant recipient whose exploration of identity, faith, and artistic expression is both personal and provocative. As a biracial artist raised in a family committed to the Salvation Army, Fletcher's work reflects his own experiences while challenging societal norms and sparking meaningful conversations about culture, spirituality, and belonging. In this episode, he shares details about his recent project involving the Chamberlain Rock—a boulder removed from the University of Wisconsin campus because of its association with racist terminology. This initiative showcases Casey's dedication to confronting historical injustices and initiating dialogue about race and identity. For him, art transcends mere self-expression; it is a powerful means of cultivating community discourse that fosters understanding and healing. Throughout the episode, Casey articulates a vision of art that is deeply connected to his faith and personal convictions. He views his artistic practice as a journey toward truth, encouraging others to embark on their own paths of discovery. Ultimately, this episode highlights the transformative nature of art, demonstrating how creativity can serve as a catalyst for change and a bridge for empathy in an increasingly divided society.Casey FletcherNOT REAL ARTNOT REAL ART Artist GrantNOT REAL ART 2024 Grant Winners ExhibitionScott “Sourdough” PowerFor more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/casey-fletcher

In this episode, you’ll learn about an incredibly relevant topic: the connection between art, creativity, and climate change.Today, host Scott “Sourdough” Power highlights the staggering impact of recent climate disasters on creative communities in Los Angeles and Asheville, North Carolina. When Hurricane Helene swept through Western North Carolina last September, it displaced hundreds of artists and flattened key creative spaces across 25 counties. As Scott explores the history of climate disaster, he also tackles the common but false belief that some places, like the Appalachian Mountains, are safe from its impacts. It’s a stark reminder that climate change doesn’t play favorites—it affects everyone, regardless of background.Our conversation also touches on the Palisades and Eaton fires, two of the deadliest and most destructive wildfires in California history. An Angeleno himself, Scott witnessed firsthand how a trifecta of fire-friendly climate conditions turned entire neighborhoods into heaps of ash and soot this past January. While he stresses the importance of moving from passive observation to active engagement, Scott also celebrates the resilience of these communities in overcoming challenges through creativity. Ultimately, this episode emphasizes that creativity isn’t just about reflecting what’s happening around us; it’s also a powerful way to imagine and work towards a more sustainable future.ArtsvilleUSAFirst Friday ExhibitionsNOT REAL ARTNOT REAL ART SchoolRemote: A Video Series Exploring Public ArtScott “Sourdough” PowerFor more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/creativity-and-climate-change

This episode is your guidebook to our 2025 First Friday Exhibition series. Today, NOT REAL ART Editor-in-Chief Morgan Laurens joins the podcast to share the first half of this year’s exhibition schedule, beginning with January's exploration of figurative art, Out of Body: New Narratives in Figurative Art.In February, Pantone 2025: Mocha Mousse showcased pieces that embody comfort and warmth. March celebrates craft artists from Western North Carolina, created in partnership with ArtsvilleUSA, to support those affected by Hurricane Helene. April highlights under-recognized emerging artists, while May features exhibitions on creatures, both real and imagined. Finally, the June exhibition focuses on Midwestern iconography, spotlighting artists from between New York and Chicago.Curated by Morgan Laurens and former New York gallerist Kirsten Bengtson-Lydoukis, the First Friday Exhibition series supports an array of talented artists who submitted work to our biennial grant.ArtsvilleUSAFirst Friday ExhibitionsFull 2025 Exhibition ScheduleMorgan LaurensNOT REAL ARTNOT REAL ART Artist GrantFor more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/first-friday-exhibitions-2025

Creativity can be a powerful tool for spreading eco-awareness. As the climate crisis worsens, today’s guest, sustainable sculptor and NOT REAL ART grant winner Danielle O’Malley, joins us to discuss the intersection of art and environmental awareness and how communities can work together to stem the rising tide.Growing up in rural Montana, Danielle learned to garden, preserve food, and care for livestock, which heightened her sensitivity to local environments and the increasingly hazardous climate. Still based in Montana, she now creates large-scale, site-specific sculptural installations that explore the ecological impact of industrialization with a combination of upcycled materials and industrial surplus. Throughout the episode, Danielle shares insights into her creative process, which ebbs and flows with the season. Our conversation also explores the complexities of being an artist in a conservative state like Montana, where the creative community is supportive but underfunded. Danielle reflects on the challenges and opportunities that arise from living and working in a rural setting, emphasizing how mentorship and community support can empower emerging artists to embrace their creativity without the constraints of societal expectations. Danielle’s philosophy on resource sharing and grassroots networking manifests in projects like Montana Clay, a gathering designed to foster connections between ceramic artists who live and work in “Big Sky Country.”Danielle’s story invites listeners to reconsider the role of artists in society and the vital importance of nurturing creative voices that resonate with the existential dilemma of our time. For more information on this episode, please visit http://notrealart.com/danielle-omalley

It’s often said that no friendship is an accident. In this special holiday episode, our final one for 2024, hosts Scott “Sourdough” Power and Man One reflect on the enduring bond they've cultivated over the years. Their ability to weather life's many ups and downs is a testament to their strong friendship, which has provided unwavering support, laughter, and many opportunities for creativity. In today’s episode, the two friends share heartfelt stories about their challenges and emphasize how creativity has guided them through tough times. The conversation is a warm reminder of the power of maintaining a positive mindset and the health hurdles that often accompany the life of an artist. Sourdough and Man One also explore what it means to be an artist today, discussing the passion that fuels their creativity and exploring the intriguing crossover between art and sports. They share insightful reflections on how society views artists, the struggles they encounter, and the vital need to find purpose and meaning in their work. Their conversation also touches on childhood influences, the debate between raw talent and hard work, and the personal journeys that lead artists to discover their true selves. The two friends explore the intersection of art, culture, and the immigrant experience, shedding light on the challenges and influences that shape an artist's path. The conversation touches on themes like the perceived immaturity of artists, the pressures from immigrant families, the significance of education, and the tough choices between gang life and a committed pursuit of artistic expression. They reflect on themes of personal growth, the complexities of urban life, and the transformative power of travel and exposure to diverse cultures. The role of art as a means of truth-telling comes to the forefront as they share their experiences in Los Angeles, address the struggles of marginalized communities, and inspire hope for the future, especially with aspirations for 2025. In their discussion, Sourdough and Man One emphasize the vital roles of empathy and collaboration in their friendship. Join them as they reflect on the pivotal moments that have deepened their connection and made their experience truly remarkable.For more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/holiday-cheer-2024

While Christmas in Los Angeles brings sunshine instead of snowflakes, Angelinos can still enjoy holiday festivities—particularly the music. In today’s podcast episode, graffiti artist Man One and filmmaker VONJAKO join host Scott “Sourdough” Power to discuss the creative journey behind the music video for “Christmas in L.A.,” a unique hip-hop holiday track celebrating the vibrant culture of LA. Released by Crewest Studio as a tribute to the city, the song features a powerhouse lineup of LA-based emcees, including Aceyalone, 2Mex, Medusa, and Myka 9, along with members from Grammy-winning band Ozomatli. Produced by Dan Ubick of Danube Productions, “Christmas in L.A.” stands out as a rare addition to holiday music, infusing traditional festivities with the city’s iconic hip-hop roots. The episode delves into the challenges of the music video’s production, highlighting the creative decisions that brought a fresh perspective to Santa Claus’s portrayal—reimagined as a graffiti artist. Man One and VONJAKO discuss the importance of collaboration, emphasizing how working with local talent contributes to an authentic representation of LA culture. They reflect on the joys and trials encountered during filming, reinforcing the significance of storytelling in art and the shared experience of creating with limited resources. Listeners will hear insights about the joy of authenticity in the creative process and the unexpected adventures that arise when artists engage deeply with their surroundings. The episode invites audiences to appreciate the music and the stories behind it, capturing the essence of the holiday spirit in a city famously devoid of snow. As "Christmas in L.A." gains traction on platforms like Spotify and Apple Music, this podcast is a crucial companion piece, illuminating the artistic spirit that defines LA's unique seasonal celebrations.For more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/christmas-in-los-angeles-music-video

What motivates an artist to choose one of the most painstaking visual storytelling methods available? In today’s podcast episode, host Scott “Sourdough” Power sits down with 2024 NOT REAL ART grant winner Jessie Rodriguez to discuss the meticulous craftsmanship behind her stop-motion movies. The Denver-based artist specializes in animated shorts created from linocuts, carefully carving and assembling every visual element of her "hand-printed movies."Her animations, selected for film festivals in Denver, Portugal, and Germany, explore themes such as grief, insomnia, and emotional resilience, balancing playful visuals with poignant narratives. Inspired by women filmmakers like silhouette animation pioneer Lotte Reiniger, Jessie’s hands-on approach reflects her commitment to experimentation and storytelling. Join us as Jessie shares insight into her creative process, discusses the deeply personal themes in her films, and reflects on the significance of winning the 2024 NOT REAL ART grant. We also delve into her community-driven work with the Denver Tool Library and her multidisciplinary approach to creativity. Listen to our conversation with Jessie Rodriguez to hear her unique perspective on resilience, innovation, and the beauty of imperfection.For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/animator-jessie-rodriguez

What if art could unlock the mysteries of science and reveal the hidden connections between technology, nature, and the human experience? In today’s podcast episode, host and NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power sits down with Alison Hiltner, a visual artist based in Minneapolis and the Associate Director of the Soo Visual Arts Center. She is also a self-proclaimed “science fiction archaeologist” and one of six 2024 NOT REAL ART grant winners. Her fascinating and evocative work explores how science fiction shapes our understanding of scientific research. Known for her immersive multimedia installations, Alison creates mind-blowing sensory experiences that bridge the gap between art and science, prompting us to rethink our perceptions of reality. Join us as we discuss the importance of making art accessible to a wider audience, how science fiction influences our views of ourselves and the world around us, and Alison’s intriguing creative process, which blends hands-on scientific experiences with her unique artistic vision. Don’t miss this episode to discover how her thought-provoking work can inspire us to see art and science in a new light. It’s a must-listen for artists, art enthusiasts, and anyone curious about the intersection of creativity and innovation.For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/alison-hiltner

They say what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas, but some secrets are too juicy to remain buried in the neon glow of the Strip. In today’s podcast episode, we dive into the exciting world of DesignerCon as it transitions from Anaheim to Las Vegas, where the art world is about to collide with the neon lights and vibrant culture of Sin City. Visionary DesignerCon founder Ben Goretsky joins host Scott “Sourdough” Power to share the inspiration behind this bold move.For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/designercon-2024

How can Asheville’s artists rebuild after Hurricane Helene? In this heartfelt episode, host and NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power sheds light on the creative community in Asheville, North Carolina, in the aftermath of the tropical storm. With over 300 artists displaced and studios destroyed in Asheville’s River Arts District, Scott reflects on the unique cultural and creative legacy now at risk. Asheville, a region known for its rich artistic history and thriving arts community, now faces an uncertain future as rising rents and gentrification threaten the survival of that community. For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/rebuilding-asheville-after-hurricane-helene

When natural disasters strike, they don’t just destroy homes; they can devastate entire communities, livelihoods, and creative legacies. In this special edition of Art World Horror Stories, Asheville-based photographer Michael Freas shares the harrowing tale of Hurricane Helene’s destruction, which left hundreds of local artists without studios or income. This episode explores the billion-dollar impact on Asheville’s arts economy and the challenges of securing relief, revealing the hidden toll of climate change on the creative sector. You’ll gain insight into the mental health struggles of those affected and the critical roles of self-sufficiency and community support.For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/photographer-michael-freas

Art has the power to disrupt the status quo, challenge authority, and ignite social change. Just ask today’s guests, whose provocative artworks have sparked conversation in the political realm for decades. In today's episode, we welcome legendary provocateur Robbie Conal and activist artist Karen Fiorito to discuss the transformative power of political art. Robbie, best known for his clever street posters that skewer corrupt politicians, has spent over three decades turning city streets into a canvas for social change. Karen, curator of the annual political exhibition Indivisible 2024, is the fearless creator of controversial billboards. She joins the conversation to share her experience pushing boundaries and challenging authority with bold public art. Together, Robbie and Karen dive into the wild world of street art, the legal and personal risks that come with it, and how humor can serve as the ultimate weapon in activism. For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/robbie-conal-karen-fiorito

How does PBS harness the power of personal identity and diverse storytelling to challenge the status quo? In today’s podcast episode, host and NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough Power” sits down with Nic Cha Kim, the senior producer of arts and culture at PBS SoCal, to find out. Nic produces Artbound, an award-winning anthology documentary series exploring the lives, works, and creative processes of artists and innovators in Southern California. Now in its 15th season, Artbound continues to showcase the region’s rich cultural legacy and diversity.In this episode, Nic shares his remarkable journey from aspiring Hollywood screenwriter to a critical player in the downtown LA art community. Nic also discusses the undervalued role of naiveté, the importance of boundless curiosity, and why he views his work as a “sacred responsibility.” You’ll also get an exciting sneak peek into season 15 of Artbound, which includes documentaries about The Cheech Marin Center for Chicano Art & Culture, the fusion of art and science at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, and the rise of West Coast Modernism. Tune into our episode with Nic Cha Kim for a compelling conversation about the intersection of personal identity, responsibility, and creativity in storytelling.For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/nic-cha-kim

If you’ve ever set foot in Black Rock City, you’ll know Burning Man isn’t just a festival. It’s a living, breathing canvas where art, technology, and human connection collide in the most unexpected ways. In today’s podcast episode, NOT REAL ART founder and veteran burner Scott “Sourdough” Power shares his experience at Burning Man 2024, which unfolded in the Nevada desert from Aug. 25 through Sept. 2. Scott reflects on Burning Man’s 2024 theme, Through the Looking Glass, marveling at the festival’s artistic innovations and evolving cultural landscape. He recounts mesmerizing moments like the historic “art plane,” the first FAA-approved aircraft to shoot fireworks and lasers, and explores how LEDs, drones, e-bikes, and smartphones are reshaping the Playa. He also touches on the festival's impermanence, its more than 400 art installations, and the growing tension between Burning Man's anti-commercial roots and its increasing commodification through social media.For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/burning-man-2024

As the 2024 U.S. presidential race intensifies, art remains a powerful tool for political activists. From protest posters to public installations, art shapes the conversation and challenges the status quo. But how exactly does art influence social change, and what role does it play in a deeply divided nation? In today’s podcast episode, curator Karen Fiorito joins us to discuss Indivisible, an annual exhibition confronting our most pressing social issues with provocative, politically inclined artwork. Carol A. Wells, founder and executive director of the Center for the Study of Political Graphics (CSPG), joins Karen to discuss the history of political art and its capacity for unification and social change. This episode is a treasure trove of insights and stories that will deepen your understanding of the power of art in activism and politics. Karen shares the challenges of curating such a timely exhibition, offering unique insights into key pieces like “The Fine Line” by Mary Ann Sadowski, which tackles gun violence. Carol, with her decades of experience in political activism, offers fascinating stories about the power of posters in movements like Occupy Wall Street, explaining how political art can cut through the noise to inspire action. Together, they examine the fine line between political art and propaganda, exploring art's critical role in shaping public consciousness. You don’t want to miss Karen and Carol’s conversation if you're passionate about the intersection of art, activism, and politics.For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/indivisible-2024

Art has the power to engage communities, connect diverse histories, and elevate the stories that shape our world. In today’s podcast episode, host and NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power sits down with 2024 NOT REAL ART grant recipient Nastassja Swift to discuss the artist’s mission of transformation through visual storytelling. Based in Virginia, Nastassja is an interdisciplinary artist whose life-sized, needle-felted sculptures explore identity, Black womanhood, and the African diaspora. In our discussion, Nastassja reveals how her background and personal experiences have shaped her work and the narratives she chooses to explore. Nastassja also highlights the importance of sharing resources rather than guarding them, supporting fellow artists, and broadening our definition of creativity. Tune into our conversation on the player below to hear Nastassja’s insights on the transformative power of visual storytelling. For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/nastassja-swift

How do you transform abstract ideas into striking monumental art? In today’s podcast episode, host and NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power sits down with Blessing Hancock to discuss the artist’s visionary public art projects, which span the globe. Listen to our conversation with Blessing Hancock on the player below to learn more about building effective teams and channeling your creative energy into artworks that are larger than life. For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/blessing-hancock

What do William Grant Still, Joseph Bologne, and Florence B. Price have in common? They’re all Black composers who contributed to the canon of classical music. Today’s podcast episode spotlights Classic Black, a groundbreaking youth program celebrating Black excellence in classical music.Created by Montreal-born pianist, accordionist, producer, composer, and music director Ric’key Pageot in collaboration with Crewest Studio, Classic Black hosts live performances and educational talks that spotlight the incredible contributions of Black composers and musicians to the world of classical music. Tune into the episode on the player below to learn how Classic Black redefines the narrative surrounding classical music and honors the trailblazing musicians of color who helped shape history.For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/classic-black

Wally Feresten, iconic cue card writer for shows like SNL and Late Night with Seth Meyers, Explores his craft's artistry and his journey during the pandemic. He shares how he adapted to the challenges, starting his successful business, Cue Cards by Wally, and the joy of bringing personalized cue cards into people's lives globally. Wally also reflects on his relationships with hosts and performers, stressing the importance of rapport and discussing the unforeseen inventiveness brought about by navigating COVID-19 restrictions. The conversation rounds out with insights into the supportive and creative environment of his work and the significant but often overlooked role of cue cards in live television production.https://notrealart.com/snl-cue-cards-wally-ferestenEpisode Contents00:00 Wally is a lovable, funny, cue card writer.07:33 Discussion of various dimensions of sign painting.12:44 Discussing tradition, design, and obsession in conversation.21:25 Building trust and relationships for successful collaboration.24:03 Building trust with SNL hosts every week.29:50 Grateful for long-lasting job on TV show.36:33 SNL returns with COVID restrictions, logistical challenges.39:24 Wife entrepreneur rejects personalized cue card idea.46:41 Christopher Walken hosts SNL, asks for card.51:39 Sharpies, Power pilot pens, and old markers.57:18 Meeting artists and celebrities can be challenging.01:00:42 Talent, hard work, and kindness matter most.01:05:13 Endorsement for custom cue cards by Wally.Topics DiscussedIntroduction to Wally Feresten- Introduction of Wally Feresten as a guest on the Not Real Art Podcast.- Explanation of Wally's role as a cue card writer for notable TV shows like SNL and The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon.- Mention of Wally's personal life, including his family and recreational activities.Cue Cards and Artistry- Discussion on the artistic aspect of writing cue cards.- Comparisons made between Wally's work and famous sign painters.- Reflection on the history and evolution of cue cards in the entertainment industry.Business Ventures and Adaptations During COVID-19- Exploration of Wally's business "Cue Cards by Wally" providing personalized cue cards.- How the pandemic influenced Wally to start the business.- Transition to remote work and adaptation of the business model during COVID-19.Operational Details and Employee Management- Insight into Wally’s operational and billing practices for shows.- Discussion of employee status transitioning from independent contractors to full-time staff with benefits.- Wally’s approach to maintaining a good work environment, highlighting the importance of being nice.Impact of Cue Cards in the Industry- Highlights of famous cue card writers and their contributions.- The preference of cue cards over prompters by traditional hosts.- Story about Wally's mishap during a live show and handling different personalities.Creative Side Projects and Personal Stories- Wally’s involvement in creating cards for various personal events and celebrations.- Mention of his sons’ careers and personal projects.- Story about Wally’s interaction and relationship with fans and other industry figures.Reflections and Philosophy- Wally’s reflections on the stability and changes in the entertainment industry due to strikes and other disruptions.- His philosophy on work ethic and the advice of being nice as pivotal to success.- Scott and Wally’s shared experiences and appreciations for behind-the-scenes work.Conclusion and Further Engagements- Summary of the episode’s discussion points.- Promotional mention of Wally's forthcoming book.- Encouragement for listeners to visit Wally’s business website and explore his offerings.- Closing remarks thanking Wally for his contributions and a nod to the viewers to stay creative.QuotablesLongevity in Television Careers: "You're not supposed to work on the same TV show for for 34 years and plus and still going. You know? Like, how lucky is that too?"— Wally 00:30:00Pursuing Creative Careers: "You need to make a decision. You need to leave cue cards and really focus on writing if you wanna really do that or commit fully to cue cards."— Wally 00:09:54Wally Feresten Links & BioMeet Wally, a seasoned television professional whose career spans various high-profile productions. Wally's primary responsibilities are with two iconic shows, "Saturday Night Live" and "Late Night with Seth Meyers," both of which are conveniently located on the same floor, allowing him to seamlessly manage his duties. In his role, he adeptly coordinates and supervises the integration of these shows' elements, ensuring everything runs smoothly.Apart from his core commitments, Wally also oversees a small, efficient team dedicated to "The Tonight Show." He describes this team as being on "automatic pilot," attesting to their competence and his trust in their abilities to handle responsibilities with minimal intervention. This allows Wally the freedom to engage with diverse projects beyond his day-to-day tasks.Adding variety to his career are the special assignments that take him around the country. Over the summer, Wally found himself in Miami for a shoot, and he also traveled to Toronto to work on a commercial featuring none other than Ryan Reynolds. These projects serve as exciting deviations from his routine, infusing his regular schedule with fresh experiences and challenges in the dynamic world of television production. Through it all, Wally remains enthusiastic and passionate, continually embracing the "spice" these opportunities bring to his professional life.https://cuecardsbywally.com/

Former software engineer John Houck is a multidisciplinary artist whose work examines human perception and memory. From subtly folded and rephotographed pieces of paper to paintings of psychological landscapes overlaid with personal objects, John explores how shadows can act as signatures of both the condition and the limits of our experience, playfully navigating the intersection between reality, memory, illusion, and imagination.In today’s podcast episode, host and NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power sits down with John Houck to discuss the artist’s thought-provoking practice, which marries visual art with his background in technology. “I love thinking through code as a tool to work creatively and playfully,” he says. “Then I [also] get to be in my studio. It's the best of both worlds for me.” In our conversation, we also investigate John’s fascination with psychoanalysis and find out why he believes that therapy is more effective than grad school for artists who want to get in touch with themselves and their artwork. “Being in therapy did more for me than grad school ever did,” he says. “It was way more effective and helpful in terms of getting in touch with who I am [and] the art I want to make.”Listeners will also learn time-management techniques for better focus and why truly great artists are constantly “emerging” as opposed to becoming firmly established, as the art world would have us believe. As John comments during our conversation, being alone in the studio is vital, but “at some point, you have to go out into the world and emerge.”Key Points From This Episode:How Inversion Art makes John’s practice easier (and introduced him to Not Real Art).What it means to him to be a creative technologist and how it influences his work.The language of programming, how it relates to art, and how John navigates both worlds.Fascinating ways that art-making “amplifies” his humanity.The evolution of John's iterative artworks and the mediums he uses to create them.Insight into his transition from photography to painting and how he “found his voice.”The inspiration behind his current exhibition, Perfect Temperature Lava in New York.Why hope, joy, and play are more important than they might seem.Work-life balance for artists and how self-care keeps John focused.How the Pomodoro time-management technique can benefit artists.John’s emergent vision for himself and his practice in 2024 and beyond.The power of therapy, putting yourself out there, and other advice for aspiring artists.Reflections on what it means to be a truly great artist.For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/john-houck

Editor’s note: An earlier version of this episode ran in March 2021 and has been updated with a new introduction. Historically, street art has been used as a powerful tool for community engagement thanks to its ability to transcend physical and social boundaries. In today’s special podcast episode, guest host and muralist Erin Yoshi sits down with public arts luminary Judy Baca to discuss the painter’s pioneering social work in the urban environment of L.A., the former “mural capital of the world.”“Long before the predominance of graffiti art on the street, there were writings on the street," says Judy. “There was no control over who could paint where, and it was in that climate—1972—that I stepped out onto the street.” Soon after, In 1974, Judy founded the City of Los Angeles’ first mural program, which produced over 400 murals, employed thousands of local participants, and eventually evolved into the Social and Public Art Resource Center (SPARC), where she continues to serve as artistic director. “The work I was doing needed to be institutionalized in educational systems,” she says. “There was so much work to be done around the kind of training that we needed to get another generation of artists into the world, to [give] another generation of young people the stepping stones to advance, and [without] having to start at the very beginning, as I did. So it became increasingly important to me to do the teaching, to see SPARC thrive and continue.”Judy attributes SPARC’s success to their unique participatory model, which allows community members to contribute their ideas and talents to local murals. “I was interested in a participatory methodology that not only included the ideas of the people but included them in the process of the making,” says Judy, who observes a vast cultural distinction between murals in different L.A. neighborhoods. “Whose memories are saved?” she muses. “Whose stories are told? Whose history is taught? That became a quest that has been my life's work: the land’s memory, whose stories are told and remembered, and how we come up with the real story of America.”Key Points From This Episode:Insight into Judy’s start as a muralist in LA, the former “mural capital of the world.”How permitting and bureaucratic control have hindered the creative process of public art.Ways that SPARC sought to change the face of LA by representing the people in it.The genesis of SPARC and what Judy’s cross-cultural vision for it entailed.Judy’s unifying ambition to excavate unknown stories that led to The Great Wall of LA.What she learned about dynamic imagery from the late great David Alfaro Siqueiros.Steps for creating a participatory community-based project like The Great Wall.Relationships built during the creation of The Great Wall that are still intact today.The drive to institutionalize her work that led Judy to become a professor at UCLA.Why she decided early on that she wouldn’t try to “make it” in the world of fine art.Unpacking the hierarchy of the arts that deems community art “low brow.”Reasons that The Great Wall is so critical at a time of heightened awareness of injustice.How SPARC has become a modern marvel with an inspiring heritage.The future of women’s leadership that Judy’s Matriarchal Mural addresses.For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/judy-baca

“Making artwork probably saved my life,” says mixed-media artist Amanda Maccagnan. “[It] helped me figure out who I am, where I was going, and what I was doing—and it continues to do.”Navigating the boundary between traditional techniques and contemporary influences, Amanda is rapidly making a name for herself as a rising star in the art world. Working primarily with stained glass, Amanda combines multiple mediums to create unexpected, radical pieces that satirize cultural expectations through exaggeration. Her bold, tongue-in-cheek works frame the artist as a rebel who’s comfortable with making her own rules whenever necessary. On today’s podcast episode, host and NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power sits down with Amanda to discuss the glass artist’s belief in the spiritual nature of her practice. “My spiritual practice is one of open acceptance,” she says. “As a human, I just want to be receptive to whatever the universe has for me at this point. I believe in vibrational resonance and the powers of symbols and belief, as well as practical and intuitive magic. I feel like that's where my spirituality comes in with my work—it feels like it's more about an energetic realization that creating artwork and being able to manifest thoughts into something tangible and real is alchemy.”  Amanda shares her thoughts on using art as therapy, incorporating magic mushrooms into her creative process, and preserving archaic art forms, like glasswork, through apprenticeship. As you’ll discover, Amanda’s success story hinges on the artist’s resilience, reinvention, flexibility, and creative audacity: “There is no such thing as talent,” she quips. “Just try hard and believe in yourself. It's just putting yourself into what you do. That's the talent.” Tune into today’s podcast episode with Amanda Maccagnan for plenty of charm and just the right amount of attitude.Key Points From This Episode:Amanda’s creative upbringing and what drew her to stained glass.Art as therapy: how making art helped her figure out who she is.Amanda’s love for John Waters and her inclusion in the Pope of Trash exhibition.The important role of apprenticeship in preserving traditional mediums like stained glass.Why Amanda says she took to glasswork like she’d been doing it her whole life.The alchemy of art: how artists can manifest their thoughts into something tangible.The role of psychedelics and spirituality in Amanda’s practice.Insight into her process and some of the exciting projects that she is working on currently.What John Waters had to say about the stained glass portraits Amanda created of him.Her journey into the novel world of augmented reality (AR) painting.The mental toll that the current state of the world takes for many young people today.Final thoughts on the nature of talent (and why Amanda believes there’s no such thing).For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/amanda-maccagnan

Shifting gears into an art career can be an exhilarating but challenging task. While passion is a plus, this transition also demands discipline, hard work, and the right kind of encouragement from those around you. For Miles Regis, everything fell into place once the hard-working L.A. artist found support among a steadily growing roster of clients and collectors.On today’s podcast, host and NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power sits down with Miles to discuss the painter’s path from entertainment executive to full-time artist at age 40. “A lot of my early collectors were actors and actresses, celebrities,” he says. “It was then a little bit easier for me to jump ship and become a full-time artist. I was actually encouraged by a few of my collectors to do it…that encouragement helped me make the leap.”Miles’ story may highlight the importance of community, but the Trinidad-born artist stresses that success takes more than famous friends and collectors with deep pockets. “It doesn't matter what you do,” he says. “If you are to succeed at it, you have to put in the hours. End of story.”In today’s episode, Miles shares some actionable advice for anyone who’s thinking about leaping into a creative career. He discusses leaning into your purpose, using transferable skills to your advantage, and the undeniable benefits of practice, practice, and more practice. If you’re serious about leaving your nine-to-five for a full-time arts career, learning to balance vision with industry practicalities is a necessity. Our conversation with Miles is designed to help listeners get started on the first leg of their journey into a career they love. For a few practical words of wisdom and a whole lot of inspiration from someone who believes “every action is an opportunity for creative self-expression,” tune into our conversation with the incomparable Miles Regis. Key Points From This Episode:How Miles uses art to make sense of his reality (and how it’s made him a better parent).A look at his previous life as a headhunter in the entertainment industry.Insight into his transition from the corporate world to full-time artist.The encouragement and support Miles received from his early collectors.Multifaceted ways that he has expressed himself creatively since he was a kid.Why it’s so powerful to lean into your purpose and do what you love to do.The work ethic Miles inherited from his parents and how it has served him.Ways that his upbringing in Trinidad has influenced his creative practice.What moving to the US taught Miles about resilience and finding his tribe.His experience of race and racism in the US (and how it evolved once he had children).Some of the ways that he deals with inequality and social injustice in his work.Where you can see Miles’ work until the end of the year and beyond!For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/miles-regis

If you’ve spent any time in Los Angeles, you’re probably familiar with WRDSMTH. The street artist’s iconic stencil of a typewriter cranking out pages of inspirational text is almost as ubiquitous as the city’s traffic.In today’s podcast episode, host and NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power sits down with WRDSMITH (aka Phil Brody) to discuss the artist’s unconventional path from Midwestern bookworm to renowned writer and street artist. “I was being creative from when I was a comic book kid,” says WRDSMTH, who initially relocated to L.A. to chase his screenwriting dreams. “When you look at who I am now and what I'm doing now, it just all made sense, all these little stops and starts and different lives that I had.”Realizing he needed a hobby when he arrived in L.A., WRDSMTH took to the streets and began stenciling, painting, and wheat-pasting his heart out. And the rest, as they say, is history. Today, his work resonates with city dwellers from L.A. and New York to Melbourne and Tokyo. “I always believed in my writing, but when you're a street artist, you're putting art out for the people,” says WRDSMTH. “I was hoping to inspire them and motivate them. But then, when people said, ‘I'd like this on canvas or wood or glass,’ I was taken aback—I never expected to make a dime, but then I realized there might be something here.” His most memorable messages are inspired by the conversations he hears, the things he sees everyday, and his journey from comic-book-kid to world-renowned artist. Join us as WRDSMTH shares his thoughts on making authentic connections, reinventing yourself as often as possible, and choosing “paths that make you happy,” even if they’re less traveled. “Dive into pools of the unknown,” he advises. “I think that's so healthy. It's scary, but it's healthy.” Key Points From This Episode:Insight into WRDSMTH’s trajectory, from writing scripts to writing on walls.Rising together: what he really means when it says it’s about “who you know.”WRDSMTH’s cookout approach to making connections in the LA art scene.How he brought what he loved about comic books and movies into his street art.The role of reinvention and why he encourages us to “dive into pools of unknown.”How Star Wars inspired WRDSMTH’s dream to become a writer.Why he loved the creative control that street art gave him.Being the black sheep and choosing an unconventional path to success.From vice to candy: some of the brands that WRDSMTH worked on as a copywriter.Why he believes you’re doing it wrong if you’re focused on the payout, not the journey.How he navigated the “sprawling” world of LA and started doing street art as a hobby.The correlation between commissions and building a career as an artist.A glimpse into WRDSMTH’s creative process and where he gets inspiration from.What the future holds for WRDSMTH (plus a sneak peek into his next book!)For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/WRDSMTH

Known for its emphasis on figuration, surrealism, and pop culture, the New Contemporary Art movement has roots in the irreverent, high-energy counterculture of the ‘90s. Largely self-supported and community-driven, the movement has slowly taken shape beyond gallery walls, incorporating “lowbrow,” accessible, and socially-activated work by artists that tend to fall outside the mainstream. On today’s podcast episode, host and NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power sits down with Andrew Hosner of Thinkspace Projects to discuss the curator’s leading role in the New Contemporary Art movement. As the co-founder, curator, and owner of Thinkspace, Andrew is an authority on all things street art and L.A. subculture. “We're blessed to know a lot of people,” he says. “We’ve got our toe in the subculture. If we’re able to help be that mouthpiece that helps expand that bandwidth for those folks and get them seen by the general public and let them live their lives through their creativity and their God-given gifts and stuff like that, that's a pretty special thing.”For nearly 20 years now, Andrew’s discerning eye for emerging talent, commitment to community building, and passion for pushing culture forward has resulted in an exceptional roster of lesser-known, mid-career, and established artists from all over the world (as well as a close-knit circle of loyal art-lovers that keep coming back for more). “In LA, a city that's probably got [a hundred things going on on any given night], we’re pretty blessed to have [so many people in] our community that are always showing up, month after month, to support us and our artists,” Andrew says. “We try to never lose sight of that.” In this episode, Andrew gives us a glimpse into Thinkspace’s history, charting its unconventional trajectory from a passion project to an internationally acclaimed gallery space. Tuning in, you’ll learn how Thinkspace’s focus on collaboration and community benefits both the gallery and the artists it supports. Don’t miss our conversation with the visionary curator behind Thinkspace Projects, Andrew Hosner. In Today’s Podcast Episode:Andrew Hosner discusses…How Thinkspace found a foothold in the up-and-coming L.A. art sceneThe history behind the gallery and their unconventional approachThe collaborative mindset that underpins Thinkspace’s marketing strategyHow Thinkspace’s focus on community benefits both the gallery and its artistsThe gallery’s process for working with international artists and galleriesArt as a spiritual product that benefits your health and well-beingThe juxtaposition of gentrification and economic development through artWhy he refers to his ever-expanding art collection as a “roadmap”Insight into his approach as an art dealer: “If I wouldn’t buy it, I won’t try and sell it to you.”Why it's better to have art on the walls than money in the bankFor more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/andrew-hosner

Pablo Picasso once said, “Everything you can imagine is real.” While the imagination is a powerful—and necessary—tool for artists, today’s guest believes success takes more than simply having a dream; it requires a solid game plan to become a reality.“The key to manifesting a dream is by daily actions,” says Los Angeles designer Mary Lai, who joins host Scott “Sourdough” Power on today’s podcast episode to discuss her two-decades-long career in the arts. A tireless source of positive energy, Mary creates colorful work—murals, sculptures, digital art, mixed media—that reflects her can-do attitude and sunny disposition. Prior to working as a fine artist, Mary built a decade-long career in NYC as a fashion accessories designer, even creating an award-winning namesake handbag collection. While the time she spent as a designer offered Mary invaluable insight into commercial art, she feels more at home with her current role in fine art. “I don’t think I would have felt as fulfilled doing handbags as I am now,” she tells Scott. “After all those years and experiences, I’m at a point where I can find that balance [between commercial and conceptual art].”Mary also shares her experience as an artist-in-residence at the W Hotel in Westwood, LA, where she recently launched Unlock Your Dreams, a characteristically colorful installation that blends inspirational fantasy with elements of playful nostalgia. The installation celebrates the power of inclusivity, optimism, and individuality, encouraging viewers to follow their own path, in their own way. “I wanted the theme to be ‘unlock your dreams,’” says Mary, “because I wanted to [show] that dreams can come true by creating these doors and opportunities for yourself.”Tune into our conversation with Mary Lai, who sheds light on the importance of community, collaboration, and failing your way to success.Key Points From This Episode:How the opportunity to be an artist-in-residence at the W came about.Why artists need to learn to “wear multiple hats.”Finding a balance between commercial and conceptual art.Dispelling the misconceptions that many artists have about overnight success.Insight into Unlock Your Dreams, the theme for the body of work Mary created for the W.Why Mary believes it’s important to lift other artists up and showcase their work.A behind-the-scenes look at the process of creating work for this artist-in-residence program.The inspiration for Mary’s Dream Portal sculpture, which employs augmented reality.Benefits of collaborating with other artists to bring your vision to life.What it means to be an artist-in-residence (and whether it included a stay in the penthouse!).How Mary’s graphic design experience influences her artmaking practice.Artists as magicians and the emotion and soul it brings to their work.Why having journalist Lisa Ling at the opening night was so special for Mary.Art as an essential service that reflects the culture of the time it was created.A look at Mary’s high school experience and when she knew she was going to be an artist.What’s next for Mary, where you can see her work, her definition of success, and more!For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/mary-lai

If you’re a regular listener of the Not Real Art Podcast, you’ll likely agree that art has the ability to educate, entertain, provoke thought, and illicit a wide range of emotions. Today’s guest believes that, as long as you can make a viewer feel something, you’re on the right path! Joining us is Michael Massenburg, an African American teaching artist and community organizer. Born in San Diego, raised in South Central Los Angeles, and based in Inglewood, Micheal says that he began his career at the Watts Towers Arts Center in Los Angeles, influenced by the Watts Rebellion, the Black Art Movement of the 1960s, and the 1992 Los Angeles Uprising. His socially-informed practice speaks to historical, cultural, and personal narratives and incorporates a diverse range of materials, combining painting, collage, photography, and assemblage to explore the African diaspora experience in the Americas. Michael is also what you would call an “artivist” (or an art activist), devoting much of his time to art education, lectures, and community organizing. In today’s episode, Michael shares how travel helped shape his perspective, why he believes that he was called to be an artist, and why labels like “Black art” are important. We also discuss how his former arts organization, The Collective, carried the torch for Black artists, and why Michael believes that artists and educators can be a voice for those who have had their own voices suppressed. Tune in for all this and more!Key Points From This Episode:Memories from Michael’s childhood and how his upbringing inspired his love for travel.Some of the first journeys he made as an artist, including a life-changing trip to Haiti.The “three Americas:” Indigenous people, immigrants, and those brought over as property.How traveling shifted Michael’s perspective on what it means to be an African born in America.Spiritual Nature, Michael’s exhibition about the African diaspora experience in the Americas.Why he chooses to create work about community, family, sociopolitical issues, and history.Unpacking Michael’s belief that artists and educators are the voice of the people.The story of how he realized that he was called to be an artist.How Michael gained his knowledge of business and entrepreneurship.The influence that Charles White had on Michael’s decision to study at Otis.How The Collective carried the torch for Black artists who are no longer with us.Michael’s take on the significance of labels like “Black art.”An experience in Barcelona that made Michael recognize art as a common language. A look at the Future of Dreams project that he created with a collaborator in Columbia.The importance of traveling “without entitlement.”Ways that Michael believes artists can minimize the problems of the world.For more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/michael-massenburg

“When you take weird risks and opportunities, weird shit presents itself,” says Shawn Kolodny, whose large-scale installations are strange in all the right ways. Using polished steel as his primary medium, the Miami artist is known for his “balls,” reflective sculptures that exist somewhere between the realms of art, science, and magic. On this week’s podcast episode, host and NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power sits down with Shawn to discuss the artist’s winding journey from business to industrial design to fine art. With an MBA under his belt, Shawn approaches his fine art career with an entrepreneur’s mindset, explaining that he sees himself as the CEO of his own small venture. “I always look at the artist as an entrepreneur,” he tells Scott. “You’re basically a small business where [you’re] in charge of marketing, [you’re] in charge of social outreach, [you’re] in charge of inventory, [you’re] in charge of general finances. Oh, by the way, [you’re] also creating the stuff.”Realizing that many creatives lack basic business skills, Shawn created Ballsy, a podcast that investigates the habits and growth hacks of profitable artists. As the host, Shawn interviews financially successful artists to find out how they “got the balls” to sell their work and make art their career. “I look at every artist as a small business,” he says. “Whether that means [they’re in the] Gagosian or whether that means they’re on Etsy, every artist is a small business.” Tuning in, you’ll learn more about Shawn’s thought-provoking work and his nonlinear path into the art world. Shawn and Scott talk about the inherent value of constraints, the difference between a job, a career, and a calling, and how artists can get out of their own way by “falling forward.” Find out how you can grow the balls to sell your work by hitting the play button on our episode with Shawn Kolodny below. In Today’s Podcast EpisodeShawn Kolodny discusses…How he became known for his “balls”The essential role of the sphere in his installation workA technical overview of his creative process and materialsThe evolving iterations of his art practice over the yearsHis unique journey into the arts and how he learned to “problem-solve with purpose”Tips for structuring your workflow and scheduling your responsibilitiesThe power of reinventing yourself while still making money from what you’re known forWhy branding and audience are inherent parts of an artist’s businessThe myth of “overnight success” and promoting the value of the hard slogFor more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/shawn-kolodny

If you’re an avid listener of the NOT REAL ART podcast, you already know art has the ability to connect people across cultures and express ideas that words can’t. Art, in all its forms, has immense power to shape our beliefs. Authentic representation can break down social barriers, open minds, and even become a source of inspiration. On today’s episode, host Scott “Sourdough” Power sits down with figurative painter and NOT REAL ART grant winner Joan Cox to discuss the power of representation and visibility in the arts. Working large-scale, Joan creates richly detailed visual narratives that portray queer relationships as complex, beautiful, and necessary. “I look to [artists of color] who are doing beautiful things with figurative work to be inspired by them and do the same with queer work,” she tells Scott. “Trying to put that painting out there, that image, that narrative, that [lesbians] are just the same as every other couple.”Historically speaking, Joan tells us, images of lesbian couples have either been repressed or justified as erotic material for the male gaze. “You walk into a museum and you see thousands of years of history of Western art where—if you see two or three women together—they’re just to be viewed by men,” she says “They’re dancing naked in a circle [or] they’re sitting naked on a lawn or they’re pretending to be some [mythical creatures], rather than their authentic selves.” Inspired by the couples in her community, Joan shifts our perspective by demystifying queer relationships—including her own. In her paintings she often appears alongside her partner of 21 years as they reenact mundane yet intimate moments from their lives. By celebrating the female gaze, Joan’s work opens up dialogue through a complex investigation of cultural norms, sexual identities, and body politics.Tune into this week’s episode to hear all about Joan’s journey into the world of queer art. You’ll hear why she believes nuanced representation of the human experience can create understanding and help facilitate difficult conversations. We also touch on the importance of creative expression, why culture is like a constantly moving river, and what it means to be either a switch blade or Swiss Army knife. Make sure you don’t miss our compelling conversation with NOT REAL ART grant winner Joan Cox. In Today’s Podcast EpisodeJoan Cox discusses…When she began to call herself an artist and when she came out as queerA look at how creative talent runs in Joan’s familyHow she selects her subjects, some of whom are total strangersBeing awarded the 2022 NOT REAL ART grantWhat 2023 holds for her as a fine artist and a commercial graphic designerWhy she believes there’s no handbook for making a living as an artistHow her practice has changed since COVID and becoming a motherWhy there’s nothing wrong with putting your artwork on a mousepad!What art school taught her about always being an artist, no matter what she’s doingFor more information, please visit http://notrealart.com/joan-cox

Ever wanted to start an art collection of your own, but didn’t know where to start? Turns out it’s not as scary as you’d think. Today, we introduce a very special “audiotorial” series from NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power. This week’s episode, on the ins and outs of art collecting, is the first in a series that aims to celebrate, elevate, and empower artists and art lovers by addressing topical issues and events in the art world. Blue chip art galleries often make art-buying seem exclusive and mysterious—but it doesn’t need to be that way. In this episode, Scott shares his personal reasons for buying art, and how you can follow suit. Learn why starting your own collection isn’t as intimidating as it seems and how buying original art can tip the scales in favor of the artists—not the billion-dollar home decor industry or the galleries that seek to keep the art market opaque.Whether you’re a newbie to art buying or want to expand a small collection, this is one episode you don't want to miss. Join us for the first in a series of episodes that tackle contemporary art-world issues. In Today’s Episode Scott “Sourdough” discusses…Why lots of people feel intimidated when it comes to buying artUnderstanding that most original contemporary artworks out there are affordableWhy it’s important for artists to nurture the mass market and grow demand for original, affordable artHow existing business models in the art world fail to serve the majority of artistsThe importance of buying art that you love; it shouldn’t just serve as an investmentWhy he loves buying art, starting with how it makes him feelThe value of owning something unique that supports small business ownersThe conversation-starting qualities of original art that mass-produced decor lacksFor more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/why-i-love-buying-art

Today on the Not Real Art Podcast, we have the pleasure of introducing you to world-renowned artist, Andre Miripolsky. As colorful as the art he creates, Andre’s signature style of pop imagery is bright, whimsical, and energetic, and he has collaborated with the likes of Bette Midler, Quincy Jones, Robin Williams, The Rolling Stones, and MTV, among others. His work exploded onto the scene in the 1980s with the design of Elton John's famous ‘piano jacket’, and he is best known for his Fear No Art series, the Miripolsky Art Barbie, and his ‘Absolut Vodka illustrations from the ‘90s. In this episode, Andre shares some insight into his career, his upbringing around the world, and what led him to ultimately settle in Los Angeles. Tuning in, you’ll learn more about his iconic Viva LA! Program, which celebrates the power of collaboration and the incredible, dynamic people that make LA one of the most creative cities in the world, and we dive into how Andre is embracing cutting edge technology as he ventures into the world of NFTs with his distinctive shark characters. Andre believes he was born to be an artist, which is clearly evident as we dive into his story. So, for a fascinating discussion with one of the most brilliant creative minds of our time, make sure to tune in today!Key Points From This Episode:What constitutes ‘real art’ and some of the unintended consequences of technology.An interesting story about why Andre isn’t a French citizen, despite being born in Paris.Why Andre says he received an art education “by osmosis" by the time he was two.How he found himself through art at a young age and sold his first painting at 10-years-old.The importance of branding as an artist, which Andre first discovered as a high school senior.The role of marketing and promotion in the NFT world and the challenges virtual art presents.Insight into some of the important partnerships that Andre has made in the NFT space.Why Andre says that he always felt like an old soul, even when he was a child.How he has embraced cutting edge technologies and processes throughout his career.Why he believes the epitaph on his tombstone should read, "In spite of myself.”The accident that led Andre to create one of his best-known bodies of work, Fear No Art.How he made rock and roll history by designing Elton John’s famous ‘piano jacket’.Why Andre attributes his success as an artist to his ability to adapt his energy to the different ecosystems and platforms of the art world.Understanding his involvement in the Viva LA Music Festival via his iconic Viva LA! Platform.Why he believes that the phrase, “Viva LA,” is behind the success of the brand.Information about Andre’s SharkTales Art Club NFTs, his partnership with the Beneath the Waves Foundation, and where you can find them.Where you can follow Andre on Twitter and Instagram.For more info, please visit: https://notrealart.com/andre-miripolsky