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Between 2 Hats: LFG
by Patrick Osman & Phillip Burton
Between 2 Hats is a dynamic podcast hosted by Patrick and Phil, where they dive into business, life, entrepreneurship, and the world of sales, especially within the SFR (Single-Family Rental) industry. But beyond just business, the heart of the podcast is about people.Each episode features interesting guests with unique talents and experiences, giving listeners a behind-the-scenes look at their personal journeys. Instead of just focusing on success stories, Patrick and Phil aim to uncover the human side of entrepreneurship—what drives people, the challenges they’ve overcome, and what makes them tick.Listeners can expect real conversations, insightful takeaways, and a mix of humor and wisdom as they navigate through experiences in sales, investing, and life in general. It’s all about connections, stories, and getting to know people beyond their professional titles.The podcast is perfect for anyone looking for inspiration, real talk about b
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Daniel French Part 2: Real Estate, Grit & the Future of SFR
In Episode 24 (Part 2) of Between Two Hats, Patrick Osman and Phillip Burton sit back down with Daniel French, CEO of Northpoint, for a sharp, wide-ranging conversation about real estate, grit, leadership, and the future of single-family rentals.Daniel breaks down why SFR still feels like the “Wild West,” why Americans are wired to believe in home ownership, and why that mindset might need a reset. The discussion moves from growth markets like Austin, Phoenix, and Dallas to the bigger picture: long-term investing, institutional ownership, housing affordability, and what actually builds real wealth.They also get into branding evolution, political ambition, team dynamics, scaling property management, and the importance of community impact in real estate. Daniel shares hard-earned lessons from building credibility with investors, navigating risk, and adapting to market cycles — without losing integrity.This episode is about thinking long-term.About grit over hype.About building something that actually lasts.If you’re in real estate, entrepreneurship, or leadership — this one hits.🎧 Between 2 Hats drops every Wednesday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio, and more.Subscribe & hit the bell 🔔 so you don’t miss an episode.📲 Follow us on socials:📸 Instagram: @between2hats📘 Facebook: Between 2 Hats LFG
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How Loss Shaped a Leader: Daniel French’s Journey from Politics to Real Estate
In this episode of Between Two Hats, hosts Patrick Osman and Phillip Burton sit down with Daniel French, CEO of Northpoint, for a raw, real conversation about family, failure, faith, and finding your true lane.Daniel opens up about winning elected office at 28, getting absolutely crushed in a bigger political race soon after — and how that loss pulled him out of public service and straight into the private sector, where he knew he belonged. From there, the conversation goes way beyond titles and transactions, diving into fatherhood, gratitude, integrity, mentorship, and the pressure that comes with leadership.This episode breaks down how loss sharpens perspective, why honoring your parents’ sacrifices matters, and why real wealth — in business and in life — is built on values, patience, and long-term thinking. Daniel also reflects on early real estate mistakes, resilience through adversity, and why integrity is the real competitive edge.If you care about leadership with substance and building wealth the right way, this one hits home.🎧 Between 2 Hats drops every Wednesday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio, and more.Subscribe & hit the bell 🔔 so you don’t miss an episode.📲 Follow us on socials:📸 Instagram: @between2hats📘 Facebook: Between 2 Hats LFG👇 Listen now — and drop your biggest takeaway in the comments.
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Betting on Yourself, Building DenZen & Rethinking Housing Security With Kait Feeney
In Episode 22 of Between 2 Hats, hosts Patrick Osman and Phillip Burton sit down with Kait Feeney, Co-Founder and CEO of DenZen, for a raw and honest conversation about entrepreneurship, risk, and building a business that actually solves a real problem.Kait shares her journey from working as a labor and employment attorney—helping companies lay people off—to questioning whether that was the legacy she wanted to leave behind. After watching friends across multiple industries lose their jobs and struggle to cover rent or mortgages, Kait saw a deeper issue: most people are one income disruption away from financial crisis.That realization sparked the creation of DenZen, a platform designed to create a financial safety net for renters while protecting property partners from loss. In this episode, Kait breaks down how DenZen works, why portfolio-level risk modeling matters, and how removing individual credit barriers creates a system that can actually scale.📢Tune in to Between 2 Hats every Wednesday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio, and more. Subscribe & hit the bell 🔔 so you never miss an episode!📲 Follow us on social media:📸 Instagram: @between2hats📘 Facebook: Between 2 Hats LFG
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Leadership, Accountability & Culture at Scale | Kelly Brooks, CEO of Property Masters
In Episode 21 of Between 2 Hats, hosts Patrick Osman and Phillip Burton sit down with Kelly Brooks, CEO of Property Masters Inc, for a powerful conversation on leadership, culture, and what it really takes to scale a business without losing your people — or yourself.Kelly shares her journey in the property management industry, from stepping into the business early on to helping grow and lead a company in an increasingly complex, remote-first world. She breaks down why company culture isn’t a perk — it’s the strategy, how accountability and positivity can (and must) coexist, and why ego is one of the fastest ways to kill trust inside a team.📢Tune in to Between 2 Hats every Wednesday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio, and more. Subscribe & hit the bell 🔔 so you never miss an episode!📲 Follow us on social media:📸 Instagram: @between2hats📘 Facebook: Between 2 Hats LFG
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From 11 Doors to 800: Taylor Brakefield on Building PROS PM
In Episode 20 of Between 2 Hats, hosts Patrick Osman and Phillip Burton sit down with Taylor Brakefield, CEO & Owner of PROS PM, for one of the most raw and inspiring conversations yet.Taylor shares her journey in the property management industry — from early career lessons to navigating leadership in a male-dominated space, and ultimately making the decision to bet on herself and start her own company. After a defining moment made it clear there was no future for her where she was, Taylor walked away and launched PROS PM with just 11 doors. Today, she manages nearly 800.This episode dives deep into what it really takes to build a business from the ground up: resilience, community, mindset, and the emotional weight that comes with leadership. Taylor opens up about hiring the right team, building a healthy workplace culture, balancing family and business, and handling the difficult situations no one prepares you for in property management.If you’re an entrepreneur, property manager, or leader navigating growth, setbacks, or self-doubt, this episode is a powerful reminder that grit, clarity, and conviction can change everything.📢Tune in to Between 2 Hats every Wednesday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio, and more. Subscribe & hit the bell 🔔 so you never miss an episode!📲 Follow us on social media:📸 Instagram: @between2hats📘 Facebook: Between 2 Hats LFG
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Life After NASCAR: Blake Koch on FilterTime and Entrepreneurship.
🏎️Life After NASCAR: Blake Koch on FilterTime and Entrepreneurship.In Episode 19 of Between 2 Hats, hosts Patrick Osman and Phillip Burton sit down with Blake Koch, former NASCAR driver and founder of FilterTime, to unpack one of the most unexpected transitions you’ll hear — from professional racing to building a fast-growing, customer-first business.Blake shares how being unexpectedly let go from NASCAR forced him to reinvent himself, why a frustrating trip to buy air filters sparked a business idea, and how obsessing over customer experience became the foundation of FilterTime’s growth. From partnering with Dale Earnhardt Jr. to expanding into property management and healthcare, this conversation dives deep into what it really takes to build a company that lasts.The episode also explores the physical and mental demands of professional racing, the future of NASCAR and electric vehicles, the discipline required to compete at the highest levels, and why making life easier for customers is the real product every business is selling.Whether you’re an entrepreneur, real estate operator, business leader, or just someone navigating a major career pivot, this episode delivers real lessons on resilience, belief, and building with intention.📢Tune in to Between 2 Hats every Wednesday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio, and more. Subscribe & hit the bell 🔔 so you never miss an episode!📲 Follow us on social media:📸 Instagram: @between2hats📘 Facebook: Between 2 Hats LFG
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Bryan Jenkins: From Military to Property Management
💼 The Leadership Lesson Every Property Manager Needs | Episode 18 | Bryan JenkinsIn Episode 18 of Between Two Hats, hosts Patrick Osman and Philip Burton sit down with Bryan Jenkins — military veteran, real estate investor, and President of Genstone Property Management — for a conversation packed with leadership gems, property management truths, and investment strategies that actually make sense in today’s market.Bryan walks us through his journey from military service to property management, sharing the lessons, discipline, and mindset shifts that shaped how he leads people, handles HOAs, communicates with clients, and builds teams that actually solve problems instead of just pointing them out. The guys dive into the human side of business (yes, even in property management), why communication beats chaos every time, and how leaders can scale by building problem-solvers — not bottlenecks.You’ll also hear Bryan break down modern real estate investing with straight-shooting clarity, from DSCR loans to Airbnb and corporate housing, plus how Genstone is building a “sticky ecosystem” with smart tech, better systems, and proactive management.If you’re in property management, real estate investing, Airbnb, SFR/BTR, or you just love hearing how military leadership translates into business… this one’s for you.📢Tune in to Between 2 Hats every Wednesday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio, and more. Subscribe & hit the bell 🔔 so you never miss an episode!📲 Follow us on social media:📸 Instagram: @between2hats📘 Facebook: Between 2 Hats LFG
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Jeffrey Tesch: How Discipline Built a Real Estate Empire
💼 From Subway to SFR Success | Jeffrey Tesch on Discipline, Cash Flow & LeadershipIn this episode of Between 2 Hats, hosts Patrick Osman and Phillip Erik Burton sit down with Jeffrey Tesch, CEO of RCN Capital, to talk about his journey from running Subway franchises to becoming one of the most respected voices in private lending and real estate investing.Jeff shares lessons from decades in the industry—on building relationships, maintaining discipline in any market, and spotting opportunities for cash flow even when the economy shifts. From his early days learning operations through sandwiches to leading a national lending firm, Jeff proves that mindset and consistency are the foundation of success.💡 Highlights from this episode:- How running a Subway franchise taught Jeff the fundamentals of business discipline- The power of personal connections in real estate and leadership- How to leverage equity and financing options for smarter investing- Why positive cash flow deals still exist—even with high interest rates- Building a winning culture through servant leadership and humilityWhat today’s market means for individual investors and long-term growthThis episode is packed with insights for real estate professionals, investors, and entrepreneurs looking to scale their mindset—and their portfolio.📢Tune in to Between 2 Hats every Wednesday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio, and more. Subscribe & hit the bell 🔔 so you never miss an episode!📲 Follow us on social media:📸 Instagram: @between2hats📘 Facebook: Between 2 Hats LFG#RealEstate #PrivateLending #Entrepreneurship #Leadership #PropertyManagement #SFR #BTR #Discipline #BusinessGrowth #Between2Hats
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Phil Yi: SFR, Entrepreneurship, & How RVP Changes Resident Benefits.
🚀 Phil Yi: SFR, Entrepreneurship & How RVP Changes Resident BenefitsIn this episode of Between Two Hats, hosts Patrick Osman and Phillip Burton sit down with Phil Yi—a former Navy submariner, McKinsey alum, and now CEO of Starship Residential and Chief Commercial Officer at Utility Valet.Phil shares his inspiring journey from military service to the startup and real estate world, unpacking the timeless lessons of entrepreneurship, the role of trust in business relationships, and why cash flow and NOI are non-negotiables for scaling success.💡 Highlights from this episode:How Phil’s Navy background shaped his leadership and business strategyThe emotional resilience needed to thrive in entrepreneurship and startupsThe balance between competition vs. collaboration in the SFR (Single-Family Rental) and BTR (Build-to-Rent) industriesWhy sales skills and consumer experience drive long-term successThe launch of Utility Valet’s Resident Value Package (RVP)—a new approach to utility services and resident benefits designed to boost NOI and improve property cash flowThis conversation blends practical business insights with personal stories, offering valuable takeaways for anyone in real estate, property management, or entrepreneurship.🎧 Don’t miss this deep dive into scaling trust, cash flow, and innovative solutions like RVP in today’s evolving market.📢 New episodes drop on Wednesday! Watch on YouTube or listen on any major podcast platform. Subscribe & hit the bell 🔔 so you never miss an episode!📲 Follow us on social media:📸 Instagram: @between2hats📘 Facebook: Between 2 Hats LFG#Entrepreneurship #RealEstate #PropertyManagement #SFR #BTR #ResidentBenefits #RVP #UtilityValet
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From Samoa to CEO: Adam Haleck on Scaling Northpoint & Redefining Property Management
In Episode 15 of Between Two Hats, Patrick Osman and Phillip Burton welcome Adam Haleck, CEO of Northpoint Asset Management, for a deep dive into the world of property management and real estate leadership.From his beginnings in American Samoa to building a nationwide presence in SFR and BTR, Adam shares his journey of resilience, growth, and what it takes to lead in today’s competitive real estate market. He opens up about the importance of building authentic connections, the role of technology in creating seamless resident experiences, and why transparency and accountability are essential for lasting success.The conversation dives into how a winning culture is built—one that empowers teams, prioritizes resident satisfaction, and adapts to market challenges. Adam also reflects on the lessons learned from scaling Northpoint across multiple states and markets, proving that strong relationships remain at the heart of every business.In a powerful closing segment, Patrick, Phillip, and Adam address the tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk. Together, they condemn political violence, share empathy for Charlie’s family, and highlight the urgent need for respectful dialogue in today’s divided world.Whether you’re an investor, property manager, or simply passionate about the future of real estate, this episode delivers valuable lessons on leadership, culture, and the human side of business.📢 New episodes drop every Wednesday! Watch on YouTube or listen on any major podcast platform. Subscribe & hit the bell 🔔 so you never miss an episode!📲 Follow us on social media:📸 Instagram: @between2hats📘 Facebook: Between 2 Hats LFG
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Special Episode: Charlie Kirk Honored. What His Legacy Teaches About Civil Discourse.
In this heartfelt episode of Between 2 Hats, hosts Phillip Burton and Patrick Osman, along with special guest Adam Haleck, honor Charlie Kirk and reflect on the tragic events that recently shook America. They discuss Charlie Kirk’s character, his commitment to healthy debate, and the importance of civil discourse, even amid strong disagreements.From Utah’s conservative culture to lessons on personal responsibility, faith, and community response, this episode explores how tragedy can serve as a moment for reflection, unity, and growth.💬 Topics Covered:Charlie Kirk’s legacy and influence on civil debateThe line between words and violence in today’s societyHow Utah responded to tragedy with calm and faithReflections on parenting, morality, and societal valuesJoin us as we honor a man who stood for dialogue, integrity, and inclusivity, even in disagreement.🔔 Subscribe and follow Between 2 Hats for more episodes on business, life, SFR & BTR stories, and real-world insights:📲 Follow us on social media:📸 Instagram: @between2hats📘 Facebook: Between 2 Hats LFG
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From Limousines to Real Estate:Scott Tinkham's Journey
In Episode 14 of Between Two Hats, Patrick Osman and Phillip Burton sit down with Scott Tinkham, VP of Construction at ILE Homes, for a deep dive into the Single Family Rental (SFR) industry and what it takes to succeed in today’s market.From his unexpected start in the limousine business to leading construction and rehab projects in real estate, Scott shares the lessons he’s learned about people, partnerships, and scaling in a competitive industry. The conversation explores everything from property management strategies and rehab decisions to why flooring choices like vinyl plank are changing the game.Scott also opens up about the challenges of bidding at the courthouse, why market trends demand smarter investment decisions, and how building trust with contractors and vendors can make or break your success. Above all, he emphasizes that the future of SFR isn’t just about properties—it’s about relationships, transparency, and partnerships that last.Whether you’re an investor, property manager, or just curious about the evolution of SFR and real estate construction, this episode is packed with insights on where the industry is headed and how to stay ahead.📢 New episodes drop on Wednesday! Watch on YouTube or listen on any major podcast platform. Subscribe & hit the bell 🔔 so you never miss an episode!📲 Follow us on social media:📸 Instagram: @between2hats📘 Facebook: Between 2 Hats LFG#LeadershipPodcast #PropertyManagement #CultureOverStrategy #EmotionalIntelligence #DarrenWilliams #PorticoPropertyManagement #SFR #BTR #BusinessPodcast #Between2Hats #NuanceNotNoise #ModernLeadership #CompanyCulture #PoliticsAndBusiness #RealTalkPodcast
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Bobby Triplett on Fatherhood, Faith, and Redefining Manhood
In this deeply reflective episode of Between 2 Hats, hosts Patrick Osman and Phillip Burton sit down with Bobby Triplett—former music pastor turned real estate leader—to unpack the raw truths of fatherhood, friendship, and personal growth.From his early dreams of rock stardom to becoming a key figure in the SFR (Single-Family Rental) and BTR (Build-to-Rent) real estate space, Bobby shares a powerful journey marked by faith, resilience, and emotional intelligence. Through honest conversation and moments of laughter, the trio explores the challenges of raising boys, balancing nurturing and discipline, and maintaining identity through career transitions.This episode is a must-listen for anyone navigating the intersection of parenting, career, leadership, and manhood. Whether you're a father, mentor, or simply on a path of personal development, you’ll walk away with practical insights and a renewed perspective on life, values, and relationships.📢 New episodes drop on Wednesday! Watch on YouTube or listen on any major podcast platform. Subscribe & hit the bell 🔔 so you never miss an episode!📲 Follow us on social media:📸 Instagram: @between2hats📘 Facebook: Between 2 Hats LFG#Between2Hats #Fatherhood #Manhood #RealEstatePodcast #SFR #BTR #PersonalGrowth #Parenting #Leadership #Mentorship #Faith #EmotionalIntelligence
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Stop Playing Safe: Real Talk with Darren Williams from Portico
What happens when three leaders drop the filter and get real about culture, politics, leadership, and what it actually takes to grow a business that lasts?In Episode 12, Darren Williams—President of Portico Property Management—joins hosts Patrick Osman and Phillip Burton for a wide-ranging, unfiltered conversation that starts with cigars and ends with hard truths about America, company culture, emotional intelligence, and how to lead without ego.You’ll hear:Why culture beats strategy—every single timeHow emotional intelligence shapes great leadershipWhat Japan can teach America about systems, crime, and civilityHonest takes on immigration, politics, and patriotismWhy the moderate middle is where real change happensHow to protect company culture as you scaleWhether you’re in property management, entrepreneurship, or just sick of echo chambers, this episode will challenge your assumptions and leave you thinking deeper.📢 New episodes drop on Wednesday! Watch on YouTube or listen on any major podcast platform. Subscribe & hit the bell 🔔 so you never miss an episode!📲 Follow us on social media:📸 Instagram: @between2hats📘 Facebook: Between 2 Hats LFG
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The Realest in Real Estate: Stacy Lusader of FirstKey Homes
She grew up on construction sites in the Chicago suburbs — now she’s leading one of the most powerful vendor ops teams in the Single-Family Rental (SFR) industry.In this episode of Between 2 Hats, we sit down with Stacy Lusader, Senior Manager of Vendor Experience at FirstKey Homes, for a raw, unfiltered conversation about leadership, hiring, and the human side of the SFR and real estate game.From a legacy family construction business to a national role in Single-Family Rental operations, Stacy brings decades of insight and fire to an industry that’s changing fast.We talk about:💥 Contractors aren’t vendors — they’re partners.💥 Leadership isn’t about control — it’s about trust.💥 And if your team isn’t growing, you’re doing it wrong.Whether you're in SFR, construction, vendor management, or just want to hear from a badass woman rewriting the rules — this real estate podcast is for you.📢 New episodes drop every Wednesday! Watch on YouTube or listen on any major podcast platform. Subscribe & hit the bell 🔔 so you never miss an episode!📲 Follow us on social media:📸 Instagram: @between2hats📘 Facebook: Between 2 Hats LFG#Between2Hats #B2H #SFR #FirstKeyHomes #VendorManagement #ConstructionLife #WomenInRealEstate #RealEstateLeadership #ServantLeadership #RealTalkBusiness #WomenInSFR
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The CEO Playbook: Real Estate & SFR with Richard Ross
How do you go from signing every check to leading a real estate powerhouse?In this episode of Between 2 Hats, we sit down with Richard Ross, CEO of Quinn Residences, to unpack what it really takes to build and scale a company in the SFR (Single-Family Rental) space. From CPA to public company boardrooms to launching Quinn from the ground up, Richard’s 40-year journey is the blueprint for bold leadership, smart risk, and legacy-building in real estate.We get into:🔥 Why your job title doesn’t define your ceiling — and when it’s time to lead🔥 What it’s like to be employee No. 1 and build a company from scratch🔥 The future of SFR — and why we’re just in the first inning🔥 The hard shift from operator to visionary CEO🔥 Why real wealth isn’t built billing hours — and what it takes instead🔥 The mindset moves that separate professionals from players in this gameWith leadership experience across multiple NYSE-listed REITs and decades of operational and financial discipline, Richard drops a masterclass on scaling smart, hiring right, and thinking bigger in a competitive market.If you’re in real estate, leadership, private equity, or just grinding to build something that lasts — this one’s for you.📢 New episodes drop every Wednesday! Watch on YouTube or listen on any major podcast platform. Subscribe & hit the bell 🔔 so you never miss an episode!📲 Follow us on social media:📸 Instagram: @between2hats📘 Facebook: Between 2 Hats LFG
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Inside Competitive Eating with JWebby Can Eat
Episode 9 — Inside Competitive Eating with JWebby 🔥From 51 sausages in 8 minutes to 354 donut holes in 10, James Webb is not just a competitive eater — he’s a global force. Currently ranked #4 in the world, with 7 world records and a Guinness title under his belt, James takes us deep into the raw, strategic, and downright insane world of professional eating.This isn’t about stuffing your face. It’s about discipline, timing, hydration science, throat compression, and turning your body into a food-destroying machine.We get into:⚡ The art of rhythm behind eating contests⚡ The real strategy behind prep — from sodium levels to fluid control⚡ Why social media made him a virtual menu board for restaurants around the world⚡ How he went from unknown to destroying every top eater in Australia in under a week⚡ What it takes to mentally survive 10-minute hell sessions of nonstop eating⚡ The truth behind food influencers, staged plates, and fake appetitesWhether you're into food, performance, content creation, or just raw human limits — this one punches hard.📢 New episodes drop every Wednesday! Watch on YouTube or listen on any major podcast platform. Subscribe & hit the bell 🔔 so you never miss an episode!📲 Follow us on social media:📸 Instagram: @between2hats📘 Facebook: Between 2 Hats LFG#Between2Hats #JWebby #CompetitiveEating #FoodChallenge #WorldRecordEater #Between2Hats #B2H #Podcast #ExtremeEating #FoodStrategy #GuinnessWorldRecord #JamesWebbEats
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Jennifer Krenson: Operations, Parenthood & the Power of Listening
🎧 Episode 8 — Jennifer Krenson: Operations, Parenthood & the Power of ListeningShe didn’t just grow with the industry — she helped define it.From leasing apartments with a paper application to running operations for 4,300+ homes, Jennifer Krenson has lived every side of this game.📈 Multi-family, SFR, and now BTR — she’s seen it all.💥 Faced the doubters.🚧 Built teams from scratch.🏠 And stayed grounded in the real why: creating homes, building community, and solving housing shortages.This isn’t theory — it’s lived experience from one of the SFR/BTR industry’s most respected operators.And on this pod? She’s real about ALL of it:→ The doubts when jumping to SFR→ The chaos of scaling from site teams to fleets→ Blended family life + when parenting shifts from control to connection→ And yes… even skydiving stories that make it all make sense.You want leadership?You want relatable?You want real?This episode delivers.📢 New episodes drop every Wednesday! Watch on YouTube or listen on any major podcast platform. Subscribe & hit the bell 🔔 so you never miss an episode!📲 Follow us on social media:📸 Instagram: @between2hats📘 Facebook: Between 2 Hats LFG
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The Future of Property Data: Luke Tomaszewski and the Rise of ProxyPics
This week on Between 2 Hats, we sit down with Luke Tomaszewski — founder of ProxyPics and a true game-changer in the world of real estate data collection.From grinding out 18-hour days in his car as an appraiser to launching one of the most innovative tech platforms in the industry, Luke’s story is proof that frustration can fuel billion-dollar ideas.Tired of wasting hours driving for simple exterior photos, he decided to fix the problem himself — and ProxyPics was born.Today, ProxyPics is reshaping how businesses collect property and site data across the U.S., Guam, Puerto Rico, and Canada, with over 185,000 active data collectors. Whether it's storm damage checks, commercial building scans, or tenant self-inspections, Luke’s platform is cutting out the middleman — delivering real-time, unbiased information like never before.We dive deep into his early days, how one app is disrupting entire industries, and what it really takes to build a tech empire from scratch.💥 This one’s for the builders, the thinkers, and the problem-solvers. Don't miss it.📢 New episodes drop every Wednesday! Watch on YouTube or listen on any major podcast platform. Subscribe & hit the bell 🔔 so you never miss an episode!📲 Follow us on social media:📸 Instagram: @between2hats📘 Facebook: Between 2 Hats LFG
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Mortgage Queen: Beth O’Brien’s Billion-Dollar Blueprint
Beth O’Brien didn’t just step into the mortgage industry — she redefined it.In this episode of Between 2 Hats LFG, we sit down with the powerhouse herself — Beth O’Brien, Founder & CEO of Encore Finance, and one of the most influential women in real estate finance. With over $20 billion in transactions under her belt and a legacy that spans Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, Auction.com, and CoreVest, Beth breaks down the mindset, grit, and moves that built her empire.We dive into her transition from Wall Street to real estate, how she became a pioneer in the SFR (Single-Family Rental) finance world, and why new generations are shifting toward renting. Beth also shares unfiltered insights on the mortgage industry, capital markets, and what it takes to lead with power in a male-dominated space.From law school to loan strategies, she’s done it all — and she’s not slowing down.This episode is for the builders, the risk-takers, and anyone who’s ready to learn from one of the most badass leaders in the game.📢 New episodes drop every Wednesday! Watch on YouTube or listen on any major podcast platform. Subscribe & hit the bell 🔔 so you never miss an episode!📲 Follow us on social media:📸 Instagram: @between2hats📘 Facebook: Between 2 Hats LFG#WomenInBusiness #SFRIndustry #RealEstateLeadership #TrishBeeman #BusinessTalk #CareerShift #Leadership #SFRLeader #WomenInRealEstate #LinkedInPodcasts #Between2HatsLFG
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From Headlines to Housing: Trish Beeman’s Story.
In this episode of Between 2 Hats LFG, we sit down with Trish Beeman, powerhouse behind The Beeman Group, to dive into her unexpected shift from journalism to real estate — and how a family decision turned into a legacy.📺 She covered some of the world’s most shocking moments — including 9/11 — from inside the control room. But Trish walked away from the spotlight to build something bigger: a career in the SFR industry.💼 Her husband introduced her to real estate. She said no — until she realized she could own it. Now, Trish is one of the most driven women in the SFR world, combining business smarts with a sharp eye for data.But this episode goes way deeper.🕯️ Trish shares the deathbed confession that changed how she saw her entire family — her grandfather revealed they were Jewish refugees, who fled Nazi Germany for a better life in the U.S.It’s emotional. It’s real. It’s everything this show is about.If you're into business talk, resilience, and raw truth from women in business, this one hits different.📢 New episodes drop every Wednesday! Watch on YouTube or listen on any major podcast platform. Subscribe & hit the bell 🔔 so you never miss an episode!📲 Follow us on social media:📸 Instagram: @between2hats📘 Facebook: Between 2 Hats LFG
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Breaking the Mold: Amanda Blackmon on Leadership, Style & Success.
In this episode of Between 2 Hats LFG, we sit down with Amanda Blackmon — a true pioneer and powerhouse in the SFR industry.Let’s be real: Amanda Blackmon didn’t follow the rules — she rewrote them.She walked away from a decade in multi-family to take a shot at the SFR industry when no one even knew what it was. Her boss told her she was crazy. He said she’d fail.He was dead wrong.Today, Amanda is a certified powerhouse, a trailblazer, and one of the most respected women in the SFR world. And she’s just getting started.This episode hits hard — we talk about breaking barriers, leading with boldness, and owning your lane in a male-dominated space. Amanda’s not here to play it safe, and neither should you.She opens up about the wins that shaped her — like becoming a billiards champion 🎱 in 2013 — and the things that keep her grounded (spoiler: she’s a fan of Will Ferrell movies 😂).She’s real. She’s approachable. And she’s not hiding any of it.Whether you’re just stepping into real estate or you’ve been in the game for years, this is the kind of episode that’ll punch you in the gut—in the best way possible.Listen up. Take notes. Then go make your move.📢 New episodes drop every Wednesday! Watch on YouTube or listen on any major podcast platform. Follow us 🔔 so you never miss an episode!📲 Follow us on social media:📸 Instagram: @between2hats📘 Facebook: Between 2 Hats LFG#WomenInTheSFRIndustry #SFRLeader #SFRIndustry #WomenInBusiness #BusinessTalk #RealEstatePodcast #AmandaBlackmon #Between2HatsLFG
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Shut Up and Listen
Shut up and listen. Seriously.In this episode of Between 2 Hats, Patrick and Phillip break down a skill most people think they have—but don’t: listening. Too many people walk into a room and start talking without actually paying attention to what’s happening around them. Big mistake.The real pros? They know the power of reading the room.👀 Watch body language.👂 Listen—not just to words, but to what’s left unsaid.⚡ Feel the energy in the space.Then—and only then—do you speak. That’s how you earn respect, build real connections, and actually say something that matters.💬 Be honest: Are you truly listening, or just waiting for your turn to talk? Drop a comment below!📢 New episodes drop every Wednesday! Watch on YouTube or listen on any major podcast platform. Subscribe & hit the bell 🔔 so you never miss an episode!📲 Follow us on social media:📸 Instagram: @between2hats📘 Facebook: Between 2 Hats LFG#ShutUpAndListen #ReadTheRoom #SFRIndustry #SingleFamilyRentalIndustry #BTRIndustry #BuildToRent #RelationshipsInBusiness #BusinessRelationships #Entrepreneurship #RealEstatePodcast #Networking
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Relationships
In this episode of Between 2 Hats, Patrick and Phillip take a deep dive into relationships—both in business and in life. From the relationships they’ve built in the Single-Family Rental (SFR) Industry and Build-to-Rent (BTR) Industry to their personal relationships with friends and spouses, they explore what it takes to create meaningful connections.They also discuss the foundation of strong relationships in business, the role of trust and communication in marriage and friendships, and why relationships are at the core of everything they do in the SFR-BTR world.💬 What’s the most valuable relationship lesson you’ve learned in business or life? Drop a comment below!📢 New episodes drop every Wednesday! Watch on YouTube or listen on any major podcast platform. Subscribe & hit the bell 🔔 to never miss an episode!Also make sure to follow us on our Social Media pages:Instagram: instagram.com/between2hatsFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61574081227778 #SFRIndustry #SingleFamilyRentalIndustry #BTRIndustry #BuildToRent #RelationshipsInBusiness #Marriage #Podcast #Entrepreneurship #RealEstatePodcast #BusinessRelationships #RomanticRelationships
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Between 2 Hats is a dynamic podcast hosted by Patrick and Phil, where they dive into business, life, entrepreneurship, and the world of sales, especially within the SFR (Single-Family Rental) industry. But beyond just business, the heart of the podcast is about people.Each episode features interesting guests with unique talents and experiences, giving listeners a behind-the-scenes look at their personal journeys. Instead of just focusing on success stories, Patrick and Phil aim to uncover the human side of entrepreneurship—what drives people, the challenges they’ve overcome, and what makes them tick.Listeners can expect real conversations, insightful takeaways, and a mix of humor and wisdom as they navigate through experiences in sales, investing, and life in general. It’s all about connections, stories, and getting to know people beyond their professional titles.The podcast is perfect for anyone looking for inspiration, real talk about b
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Patrick Osman & Phillip Burton
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