Beyond The Grid

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Beyond The Grid

Beyond the Grid is a show about the unseen forces powering our modern world — the electric grid, the people behind it, and the complex systems that keep it all running. From utility workers to policy makers, engineers to innovators, we dive into the stories, challenges, and breakthroughs shaping the future of energy. Whether you're in the industry or just energy-curious, this is where power, people, and everything in between come to light.Beyond the Grid — Power, people, and everything in between.

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    Ep 9 - From Data to Decisions: Making Technology & AI Work in Power & Utilities

    In the latest episode of Beyond the Grid, the host sits down with Laurent Boinot, Power & Utilities Americas Leader at Microsoft.Laurent shares his journey into the energy sector and offers a front-row view of how AI, data, and cloud platforms are transforming the utility industry. From AI copilots assisting engineers and field crews, to edge computing powering smarter grids, the discussion explores how technology is reshaping everything from operations to workforce training.They also dive into some of the tougher questions utilities face today:• Why many AI pilots struggle to scale• How utilities can balance IT governance with business innovation• The role of AI in field service safety, cybersecurity, and grid operations• How AI could help streamline regulatory and permitting processesOne theme stood out clearly: AI will not just optimize utilities—it will fundamentally change how utilities operate, train their workforce, and interact with the grid.🎙 In this episode :• AI and the evolving digital utility• Edge computing and IoT in grid operations• Copilots for engineers and field crews• AI in cybersecurity and incident response• Overcoming cultural and organizational barriers to AI adoptionIf you work in energy, utilities, or grid modernization, this is a conversation you won’t want to miss.00:00 Introduction to Energy and AI 03:47 The Role of Microsoft in Power and Utilities 07:11 Edge Computing and IoT in Utilities 11:09 Challenges in Utility Adoption of New Technologies 14:58 AI and Copilots in the Utility Sector 22:15 The Future of Workforce Training 23:23 AI in Field Service: Enhancing Safety and Quality 25:32 AI in Cybersecurity: Making Sense of Incidents 27:01 Barriers to AI Adoption in Organizations 29:07 The Balance Between IT Control and Business Innovation 30:32 Navigating the Rapid Pace of AI Change 32:08 Transformative AI Applications in Utilities 34:21 Streamlining Regulatory Processes with AI 38:01 Challenges in Scaling AI Pilots 41:37 Cultural Shifts for Effective AI Implementation

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    Ep 8 - From Platform to Power: Microsoft, AI, and the Utility Grid

    In this episode, Swaroop George Kariath hosts Rabia Kamal and Mike Rossi to discuss the intersection of AI, data, and the energy sector. They explore personal journeys into the industry, the challenges utilities face, and the importance of customer experience. The conversation highlights the need for collaboration between IT and business, the significance of data quality, and the role of governance in AI projects. They also share insights on the future of AI in energy, the importance of partnerships, and predictions for the next five years.TakeawaysAI's evolution in boardroom conversationsChallenges in technology adoption and customer service Data governance and compliance are crucial for successful AI implementationStrategic partnerships and industry knowledge are key to recognition and successThe future of the industry will be shaped by agent AI, autonomous workflows, and a new energy mixChapters00:00 Introduction and Guest Introductions06:19 Challenges in Energy and Utilities16:56 Voice Copilots and Field Assist Solutions24:32 Evolution of AI in Boardroom Conversations30:32 Advice for Clients35:33 Bringing Microsoft's Capabilities to Clients41:25 Neudesic's Recognition as Microsoft Global Partner of the Year48:43 The Future of the Industry

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    Ep 7 | AI in Energy Systems and Trading with Wish Bakshi

    In this episode, Swaroop George Kariath engages with Wish Bakshi, a Founder and AI systems engineer, to explore the intersection of AI and energy systems. They discuss the challenges and opportunities in deploying AI in mission-critical environments, the importance of sustainability, and the evolving landscape of energy management. Wish shares insights from his journey in the industry, current projects, and the future of AI in optimizing energy systems. The conversation also touches on the differences between the US and Canadian energy sectors, governance in AI, and practical advice for organizations looking to adopt AI technologies.Chapters00:00 Introduction to AI in Energy Systems02:58 Vish Bakshi's Journey in AI and Energy05:52 Current Projects and Innovations in AI09:01 Challenges in Power Generation and Data Centers11:54 The Future of AI in Energy Management15:06 The Role of AI in Utility Operations18:02 Sustainability and Environmental Considerations20:56 Trends in AI and Energy24:06 The Human Element in AI Deployment26:56 Scaling AI Solutions in Utilities30:07 Governance and Ethical Considerations in AI33:02 Advice for AI Adoption in Utilities35:59 The Canadian vs. US Energy Landscape38:55 Final Thoughts on AI and Energy Infrastructure

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    Ep 3 - Murray Mueller, Grid Operations Expert | Former Director of Grid Operations, NEOM

    In this conversation, Swaroop Kariath interviews Murray Mueller, the Former Director of Grid Operations at Neom, discussing his career journey from a lineman to a leadership role in grid operations. They explore the importance of safety in field operations, the challenges faced in control rooms, and the innovative vision of Neom as a futuristic city aiming for 100% renewable energy. The discussion also touches on the role of AI in transforming grid operations and the potential leadership of the Middle East in the energy sector.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Murry and His Journey02:54 The Importance of Safety in Field Services05:49 Understanding the Role of System Controllers08:24 The Transition from Controller to Leadership11:25 Exploring Neom: A Futuristic Vision16:46 Challenges of Achieving 100% Renewable Energy21:46 Innovations in Control Room Technology31:40 Navigating Greenfield Projects and Market Design33:35 The Role of AI in Grid Operations36:20 Demand Management and Social Awareness in Energy38:17 Digital Twins and Smart Grid Innovations41:02 Regulatory Challenges in North America vs. KSA45:30 The Future of Power Generation in the Middle East50:14 Cultural Insights and Personal Experiences in KSA

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    Ep 6 - REM: Navigating Alberta's Energy Market Overhaul

    In this episode, we explore the recent changes in Alberta's electricity market, focusing on the proposed REM (Restructured Energy Market). The discussion highlights the implications of high electricity prices, the need for a balanced supply mix, and the importance of investor confidence. The guests emphasize the necessity of prioritizing transmission policy and the potential challenges posed by Financial Transmission Rights. They also discuss the significance of reliability and operability in the evolving energy landscape, while offering insights into the future of data center development in Alberta.Swaroop is joined by Duane Reid-Carlson, P.Eng., a seasoned engineer and strategic leader who has worked across generation, grid planning, and regulatory frameworks.Jason Doering, P.Eng., an expert in energy markets and system operations (or insert his specialty, e.g. wholesale markets, power systems), with deep insight into how restructured markets evolve in practice.00:00 Introduction to Alberta's Energy Market Redesign02:13 Understanding the RAM and Its Implications05:52 Supply vs. Supply Mix: The Price Dilemma10:24 The Impact of Population Growth and Data Centers13:29 Evaluating the RAM: What It Gets Right19:35 The Complexity of SCED and Its Importance25:24 Investor Confidence and the MPA Report30:54 Speculations on Market Direction and Political Motivations35:02 Integrating Market and Operational Reliability39:35 Challenges in Transmission Policy43:12 Addressing Voltage Support and System Strength47:28 Impact of REM on Independent Power Producers50:54 Policy Recommendations for Data Center Development54:22 Navigating Unintended Consequences57:34 Looking Ahead: Opportunities and Challenges

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    Ep 5 - AI, Microsoft Platforms & Women In Leadership with Erin Garritty and Noureen Syed

    In this episode of Beyond the Grid, host Swaroop George Kariath sits down with Erin Garritty and Noureen Syed to explore the intersection of AI, modern work, and the energy industry. Together, they dive into their career journeys, the role of technology in problem-solving, Microsoft’s unique value proposition, and the IBM–Microsoft partnership. The conversation also unpacks ethical considerations in AI, the challenges women face in tech, the power of networking, and what the future holds for AI-driven partnerships across industries.Swaroop Kariath can be contacted at https://www.linkedin.com/in/swaroop-kariath/Chapters00:00 Introduction to AI and Modern Work04:41 Career Journeys in Technology09:07 The Impact of AI on Leadership13:59 Ethics and Governance in AI18:36 AI's Role in the Energy Sector23:17 Cross-Industry Insights on AI28:13 Future Trends in AI and Technology33:04 Harnessing AI for Corporate Efficiency34:17 The Rise of Agentic Technology38:55 IBM and Microsoft's Strategic Partnership42:22 Women in Tech: Navigating Challenges55:41 Advice for Young Professionals01:00:40 Recommended Resources for GrowthTakeawaysAI has been a fascinating field for decades, evolving with technology.The impact of technology is both a shrinkage and expansion of the world.AI can help remove bias in decision-making processes.Ethical considerations around AI are still developing and need attention.Women in tech face unique challenges, including maternity leave impacts on careers.Networking should be intentional and purposeful for career growth.Visibility and networking are crucial for success in any industry.Career paths are not linear; gaining experience is key.AI can enhance operational efficiency across various sectors.Human connection remains irreplaceable in a technology-driven world.

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    Ep 4 - Kirsten Eeuwes, Manager Transmission Asset Management, EPCOR

    In this episode, Swaroop George Kariath interviews Kirsten Eeuwes, an electrical engineer and manager of transmission asset management at Epcor. Kirsten shares her journey from studying engineering without a clear direction to finding her passion in the utilities sector. She discusses the challenges of asset management, the impact of load growth and electric vehicles on the power grid, and the importance of technology in the industry. Kirsten also highlights her involvement in workplace equity initiatives and the challenges faced by working mothers in engineering. The conversation emphasizes the critical role of utilities in daily life and the need for collaboration to improve the industry.

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    Ep 4 - Kirsten Eeuwes, Manager Transmission Asset Management, EPCOR

    In this episode, Swaroop George Kariath interviews Kirsten Eeuwes, an electrical engineer and manager of transmission asset management at Epcor. Kirsten shares her journey from studying engineering without a clear direction to finding her passion in the utilities sector. She discusses the challenges of asset management, the impact of load growth and electric vehicles on the power grid, and the importance of technology in the industry. Kirsten also highlights her involvement in workplace equity initiatives and the challenges faced by working mothers in engineering. The conversation emphasizes the critical role of utilities in daily life and the need for collaboration to improve the industry.Chapters00:00 Podcast Intro00:11 Introduction to Kirsten Eeuwes and Her Journey06:13 Transition from Oil and Gas to Utilities10:13 Challenges in Asset Management15:36 Impact of Load Growth and EVs19:15 Exploring Distributed Energy Resources22:17 Technology's Role in Asset Management29:54 Leveraging Technology for Maintenance Management30:36 Championing Gender Equity in Engineering32:44 Experiencing Challenges as a Woman in Engineering37:52 Mentorship and Support for Young Female Engineers39:26 Exploring Intersectionality in Diversity41:14 Balancing Career and Family as a Working Mother44:20 Navigating the Complexities of Work-Life Integration46:40 The Importance of Utilities in Daily Life52:43 Future Aspirations in the Utilities Sector

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    Ep 2- Charles Vincent, Distinguished Engineer and CTO, IBM Energy & Utilities Centre of Excellence

    In this episode of Beyond the Grid, Swaroop George Kariath interviews Charles Vincent, a distinguished engineer and CTO for IBM's Global Energy and Utility Center of Excellence. They discuss Vincent's extensive career at IBM, his transition from gas to electric utilities, and the evolution of the smart grid concept. The conversation also delves into the challenges and innovations in metering technology, culminating in the rise of Advanced Metering Infrastructure (AMI) in the early 2000s. In this conversation, Charles Vincent and Swaroop George Kariath discuss the evolution of the energy market, focusing on the impact of regulation, the role of California as a testing ground for energy innovations, and the lessons learned by Texas. They explore the advancements in smart meter technology and the integration of AI in the utility sector, highlighting the challenges and opportunities that arise from these changes. The discussion also touches on the comparative innovations in energy markets between the US and Europe, and the future of electric vehicles and renewable energy.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Beyond the Grid01:12 Charles Vincent's Journey at IBM04:44 Early Engagements in the Energy Sector08:32 Transitioning to Utility Operations13:49 The Evolution of the Smart Grid18:24 The Role of Technology in the Grid22:25 Understanding Meter Lifespan and Replacement25:09 IBM's Approach to Smart Meter Development27:20 The Rise of AMI Systems38:11 Regulatory Changes and Market Dynamics46:02 Lessons from California and Texas Energy Markets47:48 Electric Vehicle Innovations and Market Differences50:34 Deregulation and Innovation in Utilities53:04 The Evolution of AMI and Metering Technologies56:13 Electric Vehicles and Charging Networks01:00:02 Regulatory Challenges in Electric Vehicle Infrastructure01:03:37 The Future of Meter Data Management Systems01:07:39 AI's Impact on the Utility IndustryTakeawaysCharles Vincent has nearly 40 years of experience at IBM.His career began with a need for job security during his wife's pregnancy.Vincent transitioned from gas to electric utilities, recognizing the potential for innovation.The smart grid concept evolved from the need for better information exchange in utilities.Early electric utilities were single load entities, which diversified over time.The gas industry was slower to adopt technology due to financial constraints.IBM played a significant role in the development of smart meters and AMI.Challenges in deploying AMI included managing large volumes of data and communication technology.The evolution of metering technology has been driven by the need for better efficiency and information.In 2003, AMI technology saw significant adoption across the industry. Regulation has significantly influenced energy providers' operations.California serves as a model for energy innovation and regulation.The Texas energy market has learned from California's experiences.Electric vehicles are becoming increasingly important in the energy landscape.AI is being embraced by utilities to enhance operations and decision-making.The average age of power engineers is rising, leading to a talent gap.Utilities are exploring AI to address complex operational challenges.The integration of smart meters is crucial for modern energy management.California's energy market is a benchmark for other regions.The utility industry plays a vital role in supporting communities.

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    Episode 2- Charles Vincent, Distinguished Engineer and CTO, IBM Energy & Utilities Centre of Excellence

    In this episode of Beyond the Grid, host Swaroop George Kariath interviews Charles Vincent, a distinguished engineer and CTO for IBM's Global Energy and Utility Center of Excellence. Charles shares his nearly 40-year journey at IBM, detailing his transition from IT to the energy and utility sector, the evolution of the smart grid, and the challenges faced in metering technology. He emphasizes the importance of innovation and collaboration in driving advancements within the industry, particularly the rise of Advanced Metering Infrastructure (AMI) and its impact on utility management. In this conversation, Charles Vincent and Swaroop George Kariath discuss the evolution of the energy sector, focusing on the impact of regulation, the role of California as a testing ground for energy innovations, and the lessons learned by Texas. They explore advancements in Advanced Metering Infrastructure (AMI), the integration of AI in utilities, and the challenges faced by the industry as it adapts to new technologies and changing workforce demographics. The discussion highlights the importance of customer engagement and the future of energy management in a rapidly evolving landscape.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Beyond the Grid01:12 Charles Vincent's Journey at IBM04:44 Early Engagements in the Energy Sector08:32 Transitioning to Utility Operations13:49 The Evolution of the Smart Grid18:24 The Role of Technology in the Grid22:25 Understanding Meter Lifespan and Replacement25:09 IBM's Approach to Smart Meter Development27:20 The Rise of AMI Systems38:11 Regulatory Changes and Market Dynamics46:02 Lessons from California and Texas Energy Markets47:48 Electric Vehicle Innovations and Market Differences50:34 Deregulation and Innovation in Utilities53:04 The Evolution of AMI and Metering Technologies56:13 Electric Vehicles and Charging Networks01:00:02 Regulatory Challenges in Electric Vehicle Infrastructure01:03:37 The Future of Meter Data Management Systems01:07:39 AI's Impact on the Utility IndustryTakeawaysCharles Vincent has nearly 40 years of experience at IBM.His career began with a need for job security during his wife's pregnancy.Vincent transitioned from gas to electric utilities, recognizing the potential for innovation.The smart grid concept evolved from the need for better information exchange in utilities.Early electric utilities were single load entities, which diversified over time.The gas industry was slower to adopt technology due to financial constraints.IBM played a significant role in the development of smart meters and AMI.Challenges in deploying AMI included managing large volumes of data and communication technology.The evolution of metering technology has been driven by the need for better efficiency and information.In 2003, AMI technology saw significant adoption across the industry. Regulation has significantly influenced energy providers' operations.California serves as a model for energy innovation and regulation.The Texas energy market has learned from California's experiences.Electric vehicles are becoming increasingly important in the energy landscape.AI is being embraced by utilities to enhance operations and decision-making.The average age of power engineers is rising, leading to a talent gap.Utilities are exploring AI to address complex operational challenges.The integration of smart meters is crucial for modern energy management.California's energy market is a benchmark for other regions.The utility industry plays a vital role in supporting communities.

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    Episode 1 with Jason Doering, Vice President, ENMAX

    In our very first episode of Beyond the Grid, I sit down with Jason Doering, Vice President of Corporate Operational Services at ENMAX Power. We dive into the energy industry that has shaped both of our careers — its unsung heroes, the challenges, and the legacy it leaves behind.On a more personal note, Jason shares his reflections as he prepares to retire at the age of 55. We explore what led to that decision, what it means to step away on your own terms, and what the next chapter might look like.This episode is about more than just power — it’s about people, purpose, and pivotal transitions.

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    Ep 1 with Jason Doering, VP ENMAX Power

    In our very first episode of Beyond the Grid, I sit down with Jason Doering, Vice President of Corporate Operational Services at ENMAX Power. We dive into the energy industry that has shaped both of our careers — its unsung heroes, the challenges, and the legacy it leaves behind.On a more personal note, Jason shares his reflections as he prepares to retire at the age of 55. We explore what led to that decision, what it means to step away on your own terms, and what the next chapter might look like.This episode is about more than just power — it’s about people, purpose, and pivotal transitions.

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

Beyond the Grid is a show about the unseen forces powering our modern world — the electric grid, the people behind it, and the complex systems that keep it all running. From utility workers to policy makers, engineers to innovators, we dive into the stories, challenges, and breakthroughs shaping the future of energy. Whether you're in the industry or just energy-curious, this is where power, people, and everything in between come to light.Beyond the Grid — Power, people, and everything in between.

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Swaroop George Kariath

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