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Blood, Sweat & Tokens
by Ample
What happens when two builders stop talking about AI and start building with it?Taylor MacDonald runs Ample, a digital agency. Sean Davis builds developer tools at Netlify. Together they're documenting a real experiment: can you delete your content management system entirely and replace it with AI agents, natural language, and a thin data layer?Blood, Sweat, and Tokens is a weekly podcast recorded the way builders actually work — organically, with real deadlines and real prototypes. Taylor and Sean code between episodes, then come back to talk through what shipped, what failed, and what they're trying next. Every conversation ends with a commitment: "What are we building this week?"Season 1, "Delete Your CMS," takes aim at the most expensive, least-loved layer of the web stack. CMS implementations can eat 50% or more of total project cost, and most teams barely use the admin interface they paid for. Taylor and Sean think natural language can repla
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S01 E06 - Three Layers of Hell: CMS, Framework, and Platform Walk Into a Bar
The conversation covers a range of topics including the impact of AI on context switching, the transition to asynchronous workflows, transcription and automation, the role of technology in human relationships and business strategy, the impact of technology on humanity and society, the acquisition of Contentful by Salesforce, vendor lock-in and market impact, and open source solutions and cost considerations. The conversation delves into the cost of enterprise products, the process of building a system to reduce friction, prototype revisions, architectural choices, orchestration, and preview mode.TakeawaysImpact of AI on context switchingTransition to asynchronous workflows Enterprise product costs and the impact on businessesBuilding a system to reduce friction and prototype revisionsChapters00:00 Introduction and Podcast Overview04:46 Transcription and Automation10:01 Impact of Technology on Humanity16:58 Impact of Technology on Society22:57 Vendor Lock-in and Market Impact31:33 The Cost of Enterprise Products36:56 Prototype Revisions and Architectural Choices46:43 Orchestration and Preview Mode55:15 Publishing and Preview Mode
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S01 E05 - The Great Decoupling: Why Your Website Should Be the Source of Truth
The conversation delves into the importance of feedback loops and latency in agentic workflows, exploring the challenges of negotiating conflicts and managing parallel work environments. It also discusses the role of caching, server-side rendering, and the impact of parallelism on reducing latency. The conversation delves into the challenges of decoupling from CMS and considering the website as the source of truth, the complexity of framework agnosticism and platform constraints, and the exploration of self-contained applications as a communication surface.TakeawaysLatency and feedback loops are crucial in agentic workflowsParallelism and caching play a significant role in reducing latencyChallenges in negotiating conflicts and managing parallel work environments Decoupling from CMS and considering the website as the source of truthComplexity of framework agnosticism and platform constraintsExploring the idea of a self-contained application as a communication surfaceChapters00:00 Introduction and Reflection09:30 Agentic Workflows and Parallelism17:44 Caching and Server-Side Rendering22:58 Negotiating Conflicts and Parallel Environments39:33 Exploring Self-Contained Applications
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S01 E04 - The Friction Paradox: Why Less Control Means More Tolerance
The conversation covers a range of topics related to content management, AI, and product development. It delves into the challenges of multi-agent workflows, the total cost of ownership for CMS, the importance of control and feedback in content management, and the role of immediate feedback and communication in content management. The discussion also explores the sustainability of inference models, educational debt in CMS implementation, and the future of UI and communication surfaces. The conversation delves into the challenges of content management systems, the impact of voice assistants and natural language interfaces, the exploration of voice assistant tools and models, and the future of content management systems. It highlights the importance of reducing friction, the use of voice assistants to reduce anxiety, and the potential evolution of content management systems.TakeawaysMulti-agent workflowsTotal cost of ownership for CMSControl and feedback in content managementImmediate feedback and communication in content management Empowering users with less friction can increase their tolerance for delays and improve outcomes.The use of voice assistants and natural language interfaces can reduce anxiety and improve communication.Chapters00:00 Importance of Control and Feedback in Content Management30:26 Friction in Content Management Systems43:19 Exploring Voice Assistant Tools and Models51:00 The Future of Content Management Systems
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S01 E03 - The Cognitive Tax: How Information Overload Inflates Your TCO
The conversation explores the concept of total cost of ownership in software development projects, focusing on the challenges and costs associated with CMS implementation. It delves into the impact of AI on reducing friction and improving the success rate of technology projects. The discussion also touches on the development of prototypes and the potential for AI tools to revolutionize the development process. The conversation delves into the challenges of information overload and communication fragmentation in the digital age, leading to the exploration of solutions for streamlining and enhancing user experience in content management and previewing. The discussion also touches on the evolution of technology and its impact on information management.TakeawaysTotal cost of ownership in software development projects is a significant concern, with a focus on CMS implementation costs.AI tools have the potential to reduce friction and improve the success rate of technology projects.Prototypes and AI tools are shaping the future of software development, offering new possibilities for innovation and efficiency. Information overload and communication fragmentation are significant challenges in the digital age.Natural language solutions and user experience enhancements are key to addressing content management and previewing challenges.Chapters00:00 Exploring Total Cost of Ownership in Software Development10:55 Revolutionizing Development with Prototypes and AI Tools30:48 The Impact of Information Overload36:06 Enhancing User Experience in Content Management and Previewing
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S01 E02 - The Desensitization Dilemma: Security vs. Seamless Experience
In this episode, Taylor MacDonald and Sean C. Davis discuss the impact of natural language processing on content management systems and user experience. They explore the problem with traditional content management systems, the potential of natural language processing to eliminate friction, and the ideal state for content management in both greenfield applications and established systems. The conversation delves into the concept of desensitization and abstraction layers, highlighting the transformative potential of natural language processing in AI. The conversation delves into the development of UI components, data storage and management, security and risk mitigation, agent governance and control, and deterministic systems with AI instruction. The discussion emphasizes the impact of natural language on interactions and explores strategies for mitigating security risks in autonomous agent systems.TakeawaysNatural language processing in AI can eliminate friction in content management systems and improve user experience.The use of natural language processing can revolutionize the way we interact with systems and devices. UI components as isolated blocksData mapping to database rowsChapters00:00 Introduction to Blood, Sweat, and Tokens09:24 The Impact of Natural Language Processing26:54 The Ideal State for Content Management34:00 Security and Risk Mitigation50:13 Deterministic Systems and AI Instruction
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S01 E01 - Smooth Operations: How AI Eliminates CMS Friction
The conversation explores the challenges of content management systems (CMS) and the impact of AI on reducing friction in content management. It delves into the frustrations with CMS, the evolution of CMS, and the future of content management. The use of voice automation and workflow integration is also discussed as a means of reducing friction in content management.TakeawaysReducing friction through AI toolingChallenges with CMS and content managementChapters00:00 Introduction to Blood, Sweat, and Tokens15:26 The Impact of AI on Friction Reduction28:18 The Future of CMS and Content Management
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What happens when two builders stop talking about AI and start building with it?Taylor MacDonald runs Ample, a digital agency. Sean Davis builds developer tools at Netlify. Together they're documenting a real experiment: can you delete your content management system entirely and replace it with AI agents, natural language, and a thin data layer?Blood, Sweat, and Tokens is a weekly podcast recorded the way builders actually work — organically, with real deadlines and real prototypes. Taylor and Sean code between episodes, then come back to talk through what shipped, what failed, and what they're trying next. Every conversation ends with a commitment: "What are we building this week?"Season 1, "Delete Your CMS," takes aim at the most expensive, least-loved layer of the web stack. CMS implementations can eat 50% or more of total project cost, and most teams barely use the admin interface they paid for. Taylor and Sean think natural language can repla
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