Commercially Speaking Podcast- Commercial Real Estate Investing That Entertains

Everyone is asking the same question right now:Is multifamily still a good investment in 2026?In this episode, we sit down with Reid Bennett, one of the most connected multifamily brokers in the country, to break down what’s actually happening in the market.And the answer might surprise you.We cover:Why multifamily is still outperforming other asset classesThe key difference between today and the Great Financial CrisisWhy tenants aren’t leaving apartments right nowHow overbuilding is impacting Sunbelt marketsWhy Midwest markets are tighteningHow brokers are doing deals in markets they’ve never visitedThe real power of LinkedIn for finding dealsHow AI is about to reshape commercial real estatePlus:A wild story about saving a deal with… a knee injury 🤝This episode is part market analysis, part strategy, and part glimpse into the future of brokerage.10x Your Time and Get Paired with an EA Today Superpowers HQ - https://superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking00:00 – Intro02:00 – Reid Bennett’s Origin Story10:30 – The Deal That Changed Everything18:00 – Why CRE Investor Coach Matters24:00 – How LinkedIn Actually Gets Deals Done32:00 – How to Create Content That Works39:00 – Multifamily Market Breakdown (2026)45:30 – Why Tenants Aren’t Leaving50:00 – AI Is Changing Everything57:00 – Collaboration > Competition01:03:00 – License Portability Explained01:10:00 – The Future of Brokers01:16:00 – CCIM + AI Evolution01:20:00 – Outro

Most founders don’t hire an executive assistant for one simple reason:They think it will create more work.More training.More managing.More explaining.But what if the opposite is true?In this episode, we bring in Terry Pham to break down the real reason founders stay stuck—and how delegation actually works when it’s done right.We cover:The 5 delegation roadblocks holding founders backWhy “I don’t have time” is the biggest lieHow founders accidentally become the bottleneckWhat a great executive assistant actually doesThe crawl → walk → run system for delegationWhy control is costing you growthHow to get 10–20 hours of your week backThis episode isn’t about hiring help.It’s about removing yourself as the thing slowing everything down.00:00 The Value of an Executive Assistant02:29 Terry Pham's Journey and Insights05:08 Common Misconceptions About EAs08:04 Delegation Roadblocks and Overcoming Them10:52 The Role of EAs in Managing Entrepreneurs13:45 Creative Delegation Examples16:20 Identifying Tasks to Delegate19:21 The Importance of Clarity in Delegation21:42 Building a Productive Relationship with EAs24:44 The Emotional Aspect of Delegation27:34 Final Thoughts on Executive Assistants39:36 Evolving the EA Relationship40:23 Understanding Personal Work Styles41:53 Building Effective Partnerships44:43 The 90-Day Integration Process46:47 Anticipating Needs and Responsibilities49:42 Daily Syncs and Accountability52:51 Refining Communication and Expectations55:54 Gatekeeping and Access Management59:02 Balancing Accessibility and Boundaries01:06:30 Transformative Experiences with EAsResourcesSuperpowers HQ - https://superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeakingEO Dallas - https://www.eonetwork.org/Strategic Coach - https://www.strategiccoach.com/guest linksLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/terrypham/

If your business isn’t working… it might not be your hustle.It might be what you’re missing.In this episode of Commercially Speaking, we sit down with Tommy Martin of the Tebow Group to break down why even smart, driven entrepreneurs fail—and the framework that finally changed everything.After 3 failed businesses, Tommy discovered that success isn’t about working harder… it’s about having the right structure.We dive into:The 5-part framework behind every successful business• Why most entrepreneurs only focus on outcomes (and why that’s a mistake)• The hidden reason your business feels “stuck”• How to diagnose what’s missing before you waste another year• The difference between momentum, ministry, and movement• How to build a business that actually makes an impactThis isn’t motivation.This is diagnosis.And if you’ve ever felt like you’re doing everything right—but it’s still not working… this episode will hit.Thanks To Our Sponsors🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need an executive assistant that will anticipate your needs? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl00:00 – Cold open01:30 – 3 failed businesses → what changed05:00 – The missing pieces framework12:00 – Why most businesses fail quietly20:00 – Harvard lesson that changed leadership30:00 – The “movement vs momentum” model45:00 – Building a business that actually matters60:00 – What to do if you’re stuckAbout The Show:Commercially Speaking is where business, investing, and real life collide—hosted by Bo Barron (CCIM) and Timmy Barron (ADHD).If this episode helped you:Share it with someone building something right now.

Artificial intelligence can:Underwrite• Model• Analyze• Draft• Summarize• Prospect• Automate follow-upFaster than most brokers.This isn’t about average producers.This isn’t about junior analysts.This is about the brokerage model itself.If AI removes information asymmetry, compresses labor, and accelerates execution… what’s left?In this episode, we explore whether brokerage as we know it survives this decade.Not softer.Not smaller.Survives.This isn’t hype.It’s trajectory.The last broker is alive right now.

How do you close 2,500+ commercial real estate deals?In this episode of Commercially Speaking, we sit down with Gary Martinez, CCIM, SIOR, industrial specialist, CI 102 instructor, and one of the most respected brokers in Southern California.Gary shares:How he went from property manager to top 1% brokerWhy specializing changed his income trajectoryThe difference between fighting for business vs fighting for relationshipsThe “Know, Like, Trust” mindset that built his careerHis Santa Fe Springs canvassing strategy (door-knocking an entire city)Why most brokers over-educate and lose trustHow to read your client’s sophistication levelAnd a brand-new Industrial Demand Gap Model that projects supply shortages years in advanceIf you're a broker trying to scale, an investor analyzing markets, or a developer planning your next move, this episode will sharpen your edge.📊 Want to see the Industrial Gap Model live? Watch the full episode on YouTube.📬 Subscribe to the newsletter: subscribe.wgbaron.com🧠 Get an executive assistant: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeakingAnd yes, Barbara Corcoran… we’re still waiting.⏱ CHAPTERS00:00 – 2,500 Deals and Still Learning05:12 – From Property Manager to Broker12:30 – Why Specializing Changed Everything18:40 – Industrial vs Office vs Retail Personality Types26:10 – Door Knocking an Entire City35:20 – Capacity Utilization & Spotting Expansion44:15 – Stop Chasing Deals50:10 – The Know, Like, Trust Principle58:30 – Over-Educating Clients (Big Mistake)01:07:10 – The Industrial Gap Model Explained01:25:00 – Forecasting Demand & Vacancy01:35:20 – Negotiation Strategy in Tight Markets01:43:00 – The Humility of Mastery

What do billion-dollar investors and donors actually care about?It’s not your pitch deck.It’s not your financial model.And it’s definitely not your IRR slide.In this episode of Commercially Speaking, we sit down with Greg Dugard, COO of Seder Grove Holdings, who previously helped raise over $5 billion during Notre Dame’s historic capital campaign.Greg breaks down what he learned from raising billions, working with ultra-high-net-worth families, and now partnering with founders through permanent capital, a long-term investment approach that rejects forced exits, short-term incentives, and five-year flip cycles.We explore:What investors actually look for before wiring moneyWhy time horizons destroy more value than bad dealsPermanent capital vs private equity and venture capitalHow misaligned incentives quietly ruin partnershipsWhy selling too early kills compoundingThe difference between IRR and long-term wealth creationHow founders should evaluate partners before signingWhy trust beats returns in the long runWhat “life’s work” really means for a founderIf you’re a founder, investor, or operator thinking about taking on capital, this conversation might save you years of regret.🎧 Learn more about Greg & Seder Grove:https://sedergrove.comThanks To Our Sponsors💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://cre-investor-coach.mykajabi.com/a/2148133410/9YMWzNXy🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking📺 Subscribe for more conversations about real estate, investing, leadership, and building things that last.And Barbara Corcoran… permanent capital only. We’re ready.00:00 – What Billion-Dollar Investors Really WantWhy numbers aren’t the point04:10 – Raising $5B Without a Med SchoolHow Notre Dame broke records09:40 – Why Most Capital Destroys ValueThe hidden cost of short time horizons15:30 – What Permanent Capital Actually MeansNo flips. No forced exits.22:20 – Why Selling Too Early Is the Real RiskThe compounding everyone ignores30:10 – IRR vs Multiple on Capital (MoIC)Why IRR lies over long periods38:40 – Incentives: The Invisible HandThe tattoo founders should get47:30 – Choosing the Right Capital PartnerWho you let around the table matters55:50 – Trust, Talent, and Long-Term ThinkingHow great companies are really built01:05:30 – The Taylor Swift StoryYes, this actually happened01:10:40 – Advice for Founders Before SigningWhat to know before taking money⏱️ YouTube Chapters (Keyword-Optimized)

If you sell an investment property and want to defer taxes, a 1031 exchange is usually the answer.But there’s a problem no one likes to talk about:You only have 45 days to identify a replacement property.That pressure often leads investors to overpay, settle for deals they don’t love, or rush into more active management when they were actually trying to slow down.In this episode of Commercially Speaking, we sit down with Taylor Ashland, founder of Ashland Pacific, to explore Delaware Statutory Trusts (DSTs) as a 1031-eligible alternative.DSTs allow investors to:​Defer capital gains and depreciation recapture taxes​Invest passively in institutional-quality real estate​Avoid the 45-day scramble to identify a property​Eliminate active management and tenant headachesWe break down:​How DSTs actually work inside a 1031 exchange​Why the 45-day window creates bad incentives​When a DST makes sense (and when it doesn’t)​Loss of control, lack of liquidity, and real risks​How DSTs can be a full exit strategy or a “supporting actor”​Why brokers don’t get paid on DSTs (and why that matters)​The emotional side of money, taxes, and decision-makingThis episode is not tax or legal advice. It’s a practical, honest conversation about options most investors don’t hear until it’s too late.The information discussed in this podcast is for informational purposes only and does not constitute investment advice or an offer to buy or sell any securities. Investing in real estate and 1031 exchange replacement properties may not be suitable for all investors and may involve significant risks. All opinions expressed are those of the speaker and are subject to change without notice. Listeners should consult their own financial professionals before making any investment decisions. Ashland Pacific is a branch office of DFPG Investments, LLC. Securities offered through DFPG Investments, LLC. Member FINRA/SIPC. Investment Advisory Services offered through Diversify Advisory Services, LLC. Ashland Pacific is not affiliated with DFPG or Diversify.Thanks To Our Sponsors​💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://cre-investor-coach.mykajabi.com/a/2148133410/9YMWzNXy​🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking🎧 Learn more about Taylor:​https://shepherdingyourwealth.com​https://ashpac.com​Instagram: @taylordesmondashland📺 Subscribe for more conversations on real estate, investing, negotiation, and buying back your time.And yes, Barbara Corcoran… still standing by.00:00 – The 45-Day Problem With 1031 ExchangesWhy rushed timelines force bad decisions05:30 – Why Investors Overpay in 1031sIncentives brokers love and sellers hate10:40 – What Is a Delaware Statutory Trust (DST)?Plain-English explanation18:30 – How DSTs Qualify for 1031 ExchangesBeneficial interests, not partnerships27:00 – Passive Real Estate Without ManagementNo tenants, no toilets, no calls34:45 – Loss of Control & Liquidity (The Real Risks)Why DSTs are not for everyone42:20 – Using DSTs as a Supporting ActorSolving “boot,” debt replacement, and leftover equity52:10 – Why Brokers Don’t Get Paid on DSTsThe incentives nobody explains01:01:30 – Emotional Decision-Making in InvestingWhy numbers alone aren’t enough01:12:00 – Who a DST Is Actually ForIdeal scenarios and red flags01:22:30 – Final TakeawaysMore options, better decisions

You built the business.The money showed up.And suddenly you’re asking the questions no one warned you about:Where do I put this money?How do I make sure it actually lasts?In this episode of Commercially Speaking, we sit down with Garrett Gatton, founder of Reinvest Capital, to talk about what comes after success.Garrett works with business owners who’ve already “won” and are now trying to steward capital wisely, buy back time, and build wealth that doesn’t wreck their life or their family.This conversation dives into:Why success often creates more complexity, not lessThe difference between being safe with money and being wisePassive real estate investing vs active distractionBuying back time instead of stacking more responsibilityFaith, stewardship, and purpose without sacrificing returnsWhy unmanaged money becomes anxiety with better snacksHow legacy thinking changes every financial decisionAI, executive assistants, and scaling your impact without burning outThe future of housing, including Ohio’s first 3D-printed concrete homeIf you’ve ever thought, “I did the hard part… now what?”This episode is for you.🎧 Follow Garrett:Reinvest Capital: https://www.reinvestcapital.usRE:Invest Podcast https://reinvestpodcast.buzzsprout.com/LinkedIn: Garrett Gatton📺 Subscribe for more conversations on real estate, leadership, money, and meaning.And Barbara Corcoran… we remain respectfully available.Thanks To Our Sponsors💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://cre-investor-coach.mykajabi.com/a/2148133410/9YMWzNXy🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking00:00 – You Won. Now What?When success creates new problems no one talks about02:30 – When Money Stops Feeling Like a WinWhy unmanaged wealth becomes anxiety06:00 – Stewardship vs Wealth CreationWhy growing money and using it wisely are different skills10:00 – From Ministry to InvestingHow Garrett’s background shaped his view of capital15:30 – The Hidden Problem With Active InvestingWhy entrepreneurs accidentally buy themselves more work20:45 – Buying Back TimeHow passive investing restores freedom27:00 – Faith, Business, and ExcellenceWhy purpose doesn’t mean lower returns34:30 – Executive Assistants + AIThe real way to scale impact without burning out44:00 – Safety vs Wisdom With MoneyWhy “playing it safe” can quietly cost you everything55:30 – Legacy ThinkingThe question every successful founder asks too late01:08:00 – The Future of Housing3D-printed concrete homes and what’s coming next01:15:00 – Final TakeawayWhat success is actually supposed to buy you

Why do modern neighborhoods feel disconnected, car-dependent, and soulless?In this episode of Commercially Speaking, we sit down with Austin Tunnell, founder of Building Culture, to talk about real estate development, walkable communities, architecture, and how the built environment shapes human behavior.Austin shares his journey from Big 4 accounting at KPMG to quitting everything, traveling Europe, joining the Peace Corps, learning traditional building by hand, and becoming a developer focused on creating beautiful, human-scale neighborhoods.This episode covers:Walkable neighborhood design vs suburban sprawlWhy modern architecture lost beauty and durabilityMixed-use development, community-centered design, and urban planningHow zoning laws and incentives shaped American suburbsReal estate development with values-aligned investorsWhy efficiency alone is hurting cities and communitiesHow buildings influence culture, behavior, and belongingIf you’re interested in real estate investing, urban planning, architecture, community development, or building better neighborhoods, this conversation will change how you see cities forever.🎧 Listen to the full episode on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts📺 Subscribe for more conversations on real estate, leadership, and cultureGet Your EA Today with our friends at Super Powers: Superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeakingAustin TunnellX / Twitter: https://x.com/austintunnellLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/austintunnellBuilding CultureBuilding Culture Podcast: https://buildingculture.com/podcastRecommended BooksSuburban NationWorks by Christopher AlexanderWorks by Léon KrierOrganizations & ResourcesCongress for the New Urbanism (CNU)https://www.cnu.orgStrong Townshttps://www.strongtowns.orgUrban Land Institute (ULI)https://uli.org⏱️ Chapters00:00 – Why Modern Neighborhoods Feel BrokenCar-dependent suburbs, isolation, and what’s missing from American communities04:30 – From KPMG Accountant to Quitting EverythingAustin’s Big 4 burnout, depression, and decision to walk away09:20 – Traveling Europe & Discovering What America LostSpain, Portugal, and the architecture that changed everything13:30 – Learning Traditional Building by HandLaying brick, timber framing, and why craftsmanship matters17:50 – Buildings Shape People (Not the Other Way Around)Why the built environment is the human habitat22:30 – Why Beauty Disappeared from ArchitectureEfficiency, zoning, and post-WWII suburban development27:10 – Walkable Neighborhood Design ExplainedMixed-use housing, density done right, and human-scale communities32:20 – What Makes a Great NeighborhoodSidewalks, front porches, parks, local businesses, and community spaces38:00 – Why Suburban Sprawl Is Financially BrokenInfrastructure costs, declining property values, and unsustainable growth44:30 – The Culture Problem Behind Real Estate DevelopmentDemand, incentives, and why consumers share responsibility50:10 – Hiring, Leadership, and Building Culture as a CompanyValues-aligned teams and long-term vision55:40 – A New Renaissance in American CitiesLessons from Florence, patronage, and rebuilding beauty01:01:30 – How to Get Involved & Learn MoreBooks, organizations, and resources Austin recommends

Happy Thanksgiving to all! We are so thankful for every one of you for giving us your eyes and ears for 124 episodes! We will be back in January with bigger guests, wider topics and the same brotherly chemistry.Bo and Timmy relive the last couple months starting with last weekend’s annual chainsaw weekend. The Barron boys join their dad at the cabin to prepare wood for the winter.Timmy talks about what it was like to emcee the CCIM Fall Forum and Bo found a new hobby when attending Capital Camp.

If you want to understand data centers, the power grid crisis, and the real estate race behind the future of AI — this is the episode.Today on Commercially Speaking, we sit down with Simon Enwia, CCIM — a multi-state broker, tech-driven developer, and one of the few people specializing in data center development sites. And what he reveals is wild:Here’s what you’ll learn in this episode:Why data center vacancy is below 1% nationwideThe reason America will need 2x the power by 2030What makes land “powered land” — and why it’s becoming the new goldThe exact criteria hyperscalers (Amazon, Meta, Google, Oracle) look forWhy data centers are now measured in megawatts per acre, not square footageHow the U.S. is locked in an AI arms race with ChinaThe brutal truth about NIMBY pushback and community approvalsWhy some utilities are charging $250,000+ just to get in line for power studiesThe four things every site absolutely must have:Simon breaks down the economics, the pipeline issues, the insane permitting timelines, and why the next decade of CRE may hinge entirely on data center development.This is the deep dive on data centers you’ve been looking for.🔔 Enjoyed the episode? Do these 3 things:1. Subscribe on YouTube & Spotify2. Leave a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts3. Join the newsletter:👉 subscribe.wgbaron.com🚀 Build your CRE business fasterHire a virtual assistant trained specifically for CRE:👉 superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking🙌 Huge ThanksA massive thank-you to Simon Enwia, CCIM for breaking down the world of data centers and the future of AI infrastructure.Email: [email protected] Estate Forum: forum.senw.iodc.land00:00:00 - Cold Open00:01:29 - Welcome Simon Enwia, CCIM00:04:34 - Becoming an SIOR Candidate00:06:37 - Welcome to KY Bourbon Lesson by Bo00:11:01 - Getting Into CRE00:13:23 - House Flipping00:17:04 - Creating The First Digital Security for REITS00:19:50 - COVID Hits00:20:33 - The Love Of Deal Making00:21:46 - Licensed In 3 States In 10 Days00:24:16 - Senior Advisor At SVN00:26:52 - Getting A Managing Broker’s License In Multiple States00:29:38 - Building A Tech-Based Brokerage00:34:36 - CCIM is Better Than Real Estate MBA00:40:23 - Never Use Your Network. Provide Value To Your Network00:40:53 - Knakal Affiliate Program00:41:32 - An Inch Wide And A Mile Deep00:43:29 - How To Figure Out What To Specialize In00:47:54 - Fiduciary Responsibility00:52:06 - Cheers, Jesus!00:53:01 - A Good Name Is Worth More Than Gold and Silver00:55:55 - The Incredible Worth Ethic Of Immigrants00:57:47 - Data Centers01:02:30 - 1. Vacancy For Data Centers Is At A Low 1%01:03:12 - 2. There Is Not Nearly Enough Power (Will Need Double By 2030)01:05:19 - Bill Gates On Climate Change01:07:23 - 3. There Is An AI Race!01:09:55 - How Important Is Taiwan Right Now?01:14:21 - The Ideal Data Center Property01:17:39 - How Much Power a Hyper Scaler Needs! (Meta, OpenAI etc)01:18:34 - Quantifying The Power Needed01:19:38 - Infrastructure Proximity01:20:43 - The High Cost Of Getting In Line01:21:55 - $200K A Year Software Per User01:22:56 - Several Years To Close01:25:26 - Convincing The Community To Allow A Data Center01:31:48 - Land Size01:33:08 - Water Usage01:34:08 - Fiber and Redundancy01:36:37 - Leasing a Humanoid Robot01:39:41 - Behind The Meter (What’s Not Connected To The Grid)01:40:33 - Becoming The Knakal Of Data Centers01:42:35 - [email protected], dc.land01:43:09 - Simon Is Hiring01:44:19 - Pop Quiz02:03:25 - forum.senw.io02:04:04 - Outro

She built a coaching company, wrote a book in four days, and raises seven kids—Mary Katherine Wathen is redefining what it means to lead a meaningful, integrated life. In this live studio episode, she joins Bo and Timmy to talk executive coaching, identity, leadership burnout, humility at the top, and how to live authentically at work, at home, and everywhere in between.💥 Whether you're a burned-out broker or a high-achieving exec wondering, “Is this it?”—this episode is your wake-up call.📚 Book: Made for More https://a.co/d/5ca0QfV🌐 westofperfection.com#Leadership #Coaching #CommerciallySpeaking #CRE #ExecutiveCoaching #MaryKatherineWathenThanks To Our Sponsors💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl🛠️ **Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: ⁠stdb.com⁠🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/csResources Mentioned In This Episode📚 Book: Made for More https://a.co/d/5ca0QfV🌐 westofperfection.com📰 Our Weekly Newsletter: The Inside Scoop On CRE — ⁠https://subscribe.wgbarron.com⁠🏬 Barron Commercial Group: CRE Made Simple — ⁠https://barroncommercial.com/⁠🥏 All Disc, No Balls! Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — ⁠https://tizbee.com⁠

In this bonus episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy welcome Luke Morris, co-founder of Crexi and Capitalize. They discuss Luke's journey in commercial real estate, the evolution of Crexi, and the launch of Capitalize, a platform designed to streamline commercial real estate financing using AI. The conversation delves into the challenges faced by brokers and lenders, the importance of data in the industry, and the future prospects for Capitalize. Luke emphasizes the need for transparency and trust in commercial real estate, highlighting how technology can empower brokers to better serve their clients.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest02:40 Luke Morris: Early Life and Career Path05:19 The Birth of Crexie: Innovations in Commercial Real Estate08:00 The Evolution of Crexie: Growth and Milestones10:48 Identifying Pain Points in Commercial Real Estate13:32 Capitalize: The Next Step in PropTech16:25 Understanding Capitalize's Functionality and Market Impact19:07 Use Cases for Brokers: Enhancing Efficiency and Effectiveness21:56 The Role of Brokers in Commercial Real Estate24:34 Exploring the Technology Behind Capitalize27:27 Real-Time Insights and Market Dynamics30:28 Conclusion and Future Outlook33:22 Understanding Mezzanine Debt and Preferred Equity36:51 Navigating Fund Management and Deal Sponsorship39:28 Challenges in Data Aggregation and AI Integration44:08 Personal Insights and Hobbies of Luke Morris48:52 Engagement and Future Steps for Capitalize.io

Can your retirement account buy real estate? Startups? Alpaca farms?! Yes. And in this episode, Dana Udumulla from Madison Trust breaks down how self-directed IRAs actually work, what they can (and can’t) invest in, and why more commercial real estate investors should be using them to raise capital.Whether you're an accredited investor or a confused podcast co-host (cough Timmy), this conversation is packed with practical takeaways, tax strategies, and jaw-dropping scenarios (like turning $7K/year into $4.75M tax-free).We also get into:Roth vs Traditional IRA pros & consCommon mistakes investors make (and how to avoid getting disqualified)How to structure deals to receive retirement dollarsReal estate, bonus depreciation, and... Brazilian sugar?Don’t invest another dollar until you listen. Your future self will thank you.📈 Sponsored by: Site to Do Business (STDB.com) and CRE Investor Coach🎯 Learn more: MadisonTrust.com👇 Subscribe + rate us if you learned something new!Thanks To Our Sponsors💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl🛠️ **Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: ⁠stdb.com⁠🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/csResources Mentioned In This Episode📰 Our Weekly Newsletter: The Inside Scoop On CRE — ⁠https://subscribe.wgbarron.com⁠🏬 Barron Commercial Group: CRE Made Simple — ⁠https://barroncommercial.com/⁠🥏 All Disc, No Balls! Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — ⁠https://tizbee.com⁠00:00:00 – Welcome to Commercially Speaking (and IRR is NOT a pirate noise)00:00:42 – Meet Dana Kudumula: IRA Whisperer & Queen of Custodians00:02:51 – Legal Disclaimer: No Financial Advice, Just Vibes00:04:42 – What Even Is a Self-Directed IRA?00:06:45 – Dana’s Origin Story: $200, Wall Street, and Finding Her Passion00:08:11 – “You Can Invest in WHAT?!” – Real IRA Examples00:10:05 – Roth vs Traditional IRAs Explained00:14:33 – A $400K Tax-Free Growth Scenario00:16:01 – Can You Use Bonus Depreciation in an IRA?00:19:27 – Can a Fund Accept Self-Directed IRA Capital?00:21:48 – What Happens to “Wasted” Depreciation?00:24:42 – The Real Estate Pro Tax Strategy Breakdown00:26:26 – Can You Roll Over Any Retirement Account?00:29:15 – Setting Up a Self-Directed IRA (Step-by-Step)00:32:54 – Who Legally Owns the Asset? It’s Not You!00:33:46 – What Happens to Rental Income?00:34:42 – The Checkbook Control Model00:36:07 – Reminder: It’s Still a Retirement Account00:37:13 – When Can You Take Distributions?00:38:41 – How Much Can You Contribute? (And For Your Kids Too!)00:41:00 – How $7K/Yr Becomes $4.75M – Compound Interest 10100:44:22 – Roth vs Traditional: The Contribution Tradeoff00:45:21 – Yes, Kids Can Have Self-Directed IRAs Too00:46:45 – What Can’t You Do With a Self-Directed IRA?00:48:09 – Creative Legal Loopholes (But Don’t Try These at Home)00:50:22 – Lending to Family: Who’s Disqualified?00:52:13 – Mistakes That Kill Your IRA (Seriously)00:56:05 – The Biggest Scam Red Flags (And How to Vet Deals)00:58:52 – Know Your Risk Profile: Don’t YOLO Retirement Funds01:00:42 – Capital Raising From IRAs: A Hidden Superpower01:03:28 – The $44 Trillion Opportunity01:04:52 – Timmy’s Misconception: “Isn’t There a Menu of Investments?”01:07:16 – Why Financial Advisors Don’t Talk About This01:08:40 – Timmy & Dana Bond Over February Birthdays01:09:10 – Most Common IRA Scams (And the Power of Pause)01:12:02 – The Importance of Trusted Communities01:13:30 – Final Takeaway: Research, Pause, and Diversify

Chuck Welden doesn’t just talk real estate — he lives it.He’s a landlord, developer, and manager who still picks up trash on his own properties. In this episode, Chuck brings the heat (and the humor), breaking down:🔹 The dangerous illusion of scale🔹 What “boots on the ground” really looks like🔹 Why managing properties makes you a better developer🔹 The mindset most brokers will never get🔹 Why being “dumb” might be your biggest asset in CREThis one is funny, wise, and brutally honest — don’t miss it.🎙 Hosted by Timmy & Bo Barron📺 Subscribe for more: youtube.com/@commerciallyspeaking📩 Get exclusive updates: subscribe.wgbarron.com#CRE #CommercialRealEstate #Brokerage #LexingtonKY #SecondaryMarkets #TenantStrategyThanks To Our Sponsors💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl🛠️ **Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: ⁠stdb.com⁠🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/csResources Mentioned In This Episode📰 Our Weekly Newsletter: The Inside Scoop On CRE — ⁠https://subscribe.wgbarron.com⁠🏬 Barron Commercial Group: CRE Made Simple — ⁠https://barroncommercial.com/⁠🥏 All Disc, No Balls! Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — ⁠https://tizbee.com⁠Chapters👇00:00 – Chuck Welden: Gators, Leases & Baptisms00:30 – The Chuck Welden Masterclass Begins01:08 – Meet Your Hosts (and Confused Cap Rates)02:04 – Who is Chuck Welden?03:01 – The Disclaimer Section04:28 – WWE Meets Sunday Service05:28 – Chuck’s Business Philosophy & KPIs07:16 – Commercial Break: CRE Investor Coach & STDB08:41 – Chuck’s Origin Story13:34 – How Chuck Blends Business & Kingdom Impact17:22 – What is Business as Mission?19:17 – The Power of Relationship at Scale24:10 – How Christian Principles Help Business27:07 – What Loving Tenants Actually Looks Like31:23 – What You Don’t Measure, You Don’t Treasure35:09 – Love, Truth, and Trash Pickup39:25 – Creation Care & Conservation in CRE45:22 – The Triple (or Quadruple) Bottom Line51:03 – Nobody Cares How Much You Know...57:15 – Fund 2: What’s Next for Weldon Field01:00:02 – Social Needs + Cultural Fluency01:02:59 – The Prayer Walks & Resident Stories01:07:16 – Connect, Share, Gather, Train01:10:12 – What Happens After the Sale?01:13:08 – Chuck’s Challenge to Churches01:18:03 – Inventory Your Missional Potential01:24:25 – Who Should We Talk To Next?01:26:51 – Chuck’s Final Invite + Lions Den Info01:32:40 – Outro + Barbara Corcoran Plea

What do top brokers really look at when evaluating a market?In this episode, we sit down with Anthony Humphress, a commercial real estate powerhouse out of Lexington, KY, to unpack what makes a secondary market thrive — and the blind spots brokers often miss.We dive into:🔹 Why Lexington is outperforming much larger markets🔹 Anthony’s tenant-focused approach to brokerage🔹 How to think like a strategist, not a tour guide🔹 The real reason deals fall apart🔹 Lessons from decades of CRE experienceIf you’re a broker, investor, or advisor — this episode will sharpen how you see your market.🎬 Chapters00:00 - Intro: Who is Anthony Humphress?02:45 - How Lexington punches above its weight08:20 - Anthony’s tenant-first mindset12:55 - What most brokers get wrong about market analysis17:30 - How to build trust with tenants and landlords22:40 - The real reason deals fall apart27:10 - Lexington’s retail momentum and future outlook32:05 - Why Anthony loves secondary markets36:40 - What great brokers do differently41:15 - Closing thoughts & advice for new brokers44:20 - Outro🎙 Hosted by Timmy & Bo Barron📺 Subscribe for more: youtube.com/@commerciallyspeaking📩 Get exclusive updates: subscribe.wgbarron.com#CRE #CommercialRealEstate #Brokerage #LexingtonKY #SecondaryMarkets #TenantStrategyThanks To Our Sponsors💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl🛠️ **Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: ⁠stdb.com⁠🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/csResources Mentioned In This Episode📰 Our Weekly Newsletter: The Inside Scoop On CRE — ⁠https://subscribe.wgbarron.com⁠🏬 Barron Commercial Group: CRE Made Simple — ⁠https://barroncommercial.com/⁠🥏 All Disc, No Balls! Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — ⁠https://tizbee.com⁠

What does 40 years in commercial real estate teach you?In this episode, we sit down with Allen Buchanan — one of the most respected veterans in brokerage — to talk about the habits, mistakes, and mindset that make or break a CRE career.We dig into:🔹 The #1 mistake brokers still make today🔹 Why talking yourself out of the deal beats short-term wins🔹 The ingredients of an elite broker🔹 The secret to networking🔹 His advice for the next generation of brokersWhether you’re just starting out or leading a team, Allen’s insights will help you sharpen your game and avoid the pitfalls that sink so many others.🎙 Hosted by Timmy & Bo Barron📺 Watch more episodes: https://www.youtube.com/@commerciallyspeaking👤 Connect with Allen Buchanan: @allencbuchanan, [email protected], 714-624-3896📚 Get Allen’s Book “The Sequence: A Personal Journey and Proven Framework for Commercial Real Estate Brokerage Success”: https://a.co/d/iYzg6K7#CRE #CommercialRealEstate #Brokerage #CareerAdviceThanks To Our Sponsors💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl🛠️ **Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: ⁠stdb.com⁠🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/csResources Mentioned In This Episode📚 “The Sequence: A Personal Journey and Proven Framework for Commercial Real Estate Brokerage Success”: https://a.co/d/iYzg6K7📰 Our Weekly Newsletter: The Inside Scoop On CRE — ⁠https://subscribe.wgbarron.com⁠🏬 Barron Commercial Group: CRE Made Simple — ⁠https://barroncommercial.com/⁠🥏 All Disc, No Balls! Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — ⁠https://tizbee.com⁠00:00:00 - Cold Open00:01:00 - Welcome Allen Buchanan00:02:55 - The CRE OGs of Twitter00:04:20 - Divorce, Boy Scouts, Baseball and Golf00:09:09 - Interviewing As A Family And Moving To CA00:09:25 - AD: CRE Investor Coach (Link in Shownotes), Site To Do Business https://stdb.com00:10:41 - Interviewing As A Family And Moving To CA00:15:18 - The Ingredients Of An Elite Broker?00:16:13 - The Proper Why00:17:55 - Focus and Put In The Reps00:19:09 - Why Go Through The Brain Damage Of Writing A Book?00:21:16 - Why Your Book Is Worth Reading00:23:33 - What Other Professionals Have The Clients I Want?00:26:56 - The 2008 Minor Economic Setback00:28:50 - Walk Me Through How You Build A Network?00:34:02 - I Want To Understand What You Do So I Can Help You00:36:58 - Transferring Trust (The Referral)00:39:17 - Working Out Loud00:42:39 - The 3 Things You Need To Be Successful On Social Media00:47:45 - AD: Site To Do Business (https://STDB.com)00:48:24 - The Sequence: https://a.co/d/dAHZo5O00:50:54 - Ways To Source Deals00:55:15 - Focused Questioning (Evaluate/Need Assessment)01:02:14 - How Do You Qualify A Lead?01:07:53 - Talk Yourself Out Of The Deal!!01:11:25 - The Superpower Of Specializing01:17:08 - Pop Quiz01:25:00 - Massimo March Madness01:27:54 - Shoutouts!

What if the most stable real estate investment wasn’t buildings…It was land?In this episode, we sit down with Quinn McArthur, a land investor who quietly built a business that offers nearly guaranteed 10% returns — all while working from anywhere and skipping the headaches of tenants, toilets, or debt.We dive into:🔹 How his land business works (and why it’s so stable)🔹 The software tools that make it scale🔹 Why risk-adjusted returns on land outperform most active deals🔹 How to build a land portfolio with passive investors🔹 What brokers are missing when they ignore this modelWhether you’re a broker, investor, or someone searching for the most boring, beautiful way to build wealth — this is your sign to start looking at dirt.🎙 Hosted by Timmy & Bo Barron📺 More episodes: https://www.youtube.com/@commerciallyspeaking👤 More on Quinn and Legacy Land Fund: https://www.legacylandfund.com/#LandInvesting #PassiveIncome #CRE #RealEstateInvesting #CommercialRealEstateThanks To Our Sponsors💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl🛠️ **Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: ⁠stdb.com⁠🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/csResources Mentioned In This Episode👨‍🏫Legacy Land Fund: https://www.legacylandfund.com/📰 Our Weekly Newsletter: The Inside Scoop On CRE — ⁠subscribe.wgbarron.com⁠🏬 Barron Commercial Group: CRE Made Simple — ⁠https://barroncommercial.com/⁠🥏 All Disc, No Balls! Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — ⁠tizbee.com⁠00:00:00 - Welcome00:03:05 - How Bo and Quinn Met00:04:14 - Quinn’s Unique Onramp Into Commercial Real Estate00:05:46 - The Green Beret’s00:09:51 - Why Timmy Didn’t Join The Military00:11:18 - Quinn’s Real Estate Mentor00:13:53 - AD - CRE Investor Coach (Link in Shownotes), Site To Do Business https://stdb.com00:15:08 - The Lure of Passive Land Investing00:16:19 - The Secret Freedom Of Land Investing00:19:34 - Why Come To You And Not A Traditional Bank or Mortgage Company00:21:10 - An Example Of A Smaller Deal00:22:56 - The Birth Of Legacy Land Fund00:23:48 - How To Get In On This?00:24:59 - Accredited vs Sophisticated Investor - Explained for Timmy00:27:32 - The Legacy Land Fund Model00:31:08 - Testing Timmy’s Understanding So Far00:38:04 - Is it a Stock Market Alternative?00:39:56 - Can You Drip Your Profits Back In?00:41:09 - What’s The Risk?00:43:02 - AD - Site To Do Business (https://STDB.com)00:44:11 - How Has Your Faith Shaped Your Business?00:45:15 - In The Service Of Vets00:46:13 - It’s So Simple, Timmy Understood Quicker Than Bo Did00:48:04 - Being Able To Offer A More Stable Play00:50:20 - What Do The Taxes Look Like?00:53:12 - The Due Diligence On The Other Side Of The Deal.00:57:58 - This Came From My Own Personal Pain Points01:02:48 - Pop Quiz01:15:06 - Outro

Everyone talks about building wealth through real estate.Whitney Elkins-Hutten actually does it.As the Director of Investor Education at PassiveInvesting.com, Whitney has helped guide more than $800M in assets under management — and in this episode, she breaks down how passive investing actually works, who it’s for, and why so many brokers miss the bigger wealth picture.We cover:🔹 Why being a GP isn’t always the smartest path🔹 How to vet passive deals (and operators)🔹 The 3 pillars of long-term investor confidence🔹 Mistakes LPs make (and how to avoid them)🔹 Where the best investors put their money nextIf you’re a broker, GP, or someone who’s done all the work but not built the wealth — this episode will change how you think.🎙 Hosted by Timmy & Bo Barron📺 Watch all episodes: https://www.youtube.com/@commerciallyspeaking👩‍💼 More on Whitney: https://www.passiveinvestingwithwhitney.com/ YT: @passiveinvestingdotcom (Passive Investing Made Simple)#PassiveInvesting #CRE #CommercialRealEstate #RealEstateInvesting #WealthBuildingThanks To Our Sponsors💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl🛠️ **Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: ⁠stdb.com⁠🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/csResources Mentioned In This Episode👨‍🏫CI102 — https://www.ccim.com/education/ccim-institute-student-tools/find-course?start[date]=&end[date]=&keyword=&sort_bef_combine=default_DESC&title[2756]=2756📰 Our Weekly Newsletter: The Inside Scoop On CRE — ⁠subscribe.wgbarron.com⁠🏬 Barron Commercial Group: CRE Made Simple — ⁠https://barroncommercial.com/⁠🥏 All Disc, No Balls! Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — ⁠tizbee.com⁠00:00:00 - Cold Open00:00:47 - Welcome00:03:46 - You just handed a 25 year old kid $52,000!?00:07:06 - The Scaling Problem of Residential00:08:42 - Active to Passive Income00:10:47 - Explaining Capital Stack for Timmy00:12:44 - AD - CRE Investor Coach (Link in Shownotes), Site To Do Business https://stdb.com00:14:00 - Tell Us About Your First CRE Conference.00:15:17 - Tragedy Strikes00:18:52 - Whitney’s 5 Freedoms00:24:07 - Bo’s 4 Freedoms00:25:24 - How Do You Define Generational Wealth?00:26:04 - Is Generational Wealth A Bad Thing?00:27:35 - Teaching Your Kids About Money00:36:46 - Portfolio Instability00:38:42 - The Problem With So Much Financial Information00:39:09 - P&L vs Balance Sheet00:40:44 - The Strategies To Win The Wealth Game00:42:47 - The Importance Of Tracking Every Cent00:43:44 - How To Get Over The Fear Of Math00:44:46 - People Taking Up My Time00:46:45 - Strategy > Tactic00:48:15 - Create, Keep, Grow, Pass On00:50:17 - One Of The Problems With 1031 Tax Exchange00:51:43 - Understanding Your Goal and Risk Capacity00:53:12 - Ask Yourself The Important Questions00:55:37 - How Do You Want to Feel When We Achieve X?00:59:44 - Is It Hard To Get A Man To Talk About Feeling?01:01:34 - Bo Geeks Out On AI’s Potential To Help Answer These Questions01:03:44 - Put Your Wants Into Containers01:04:58 - Tackle Income Last01:06:11 - Pop Quiz01:13:36 - Connect With Whitney01:16:52 - Like, Comment, Share, Love ya!

What if your best CRE hire was already in your toolkit… and you were barely using it?This week we’re joined by Ben Wilson, the guy who trains the instructors who teach brokers how to use Site To Do Business (STDB) — the most powerful (and most underused) platform in commercial real estate.We dig into:🔹 The biggest mistakes brokers make with STDB🔹 How to use trade areas, drive times & custom maps to win business🔹 Real-life case studies of deals unlocked through the platform🔹 The difference between “using it” and using it right🔹 Tools even CCIMs often missIf you’ve ever opened STDB and thought “Where do I even start?” — this episode is for you.🎧 Hosted by Timmy Barron & Bo Barron📺 Watch more episodes: https://www.youtube.com/@commerciallyspeaking💡 Learn more about STDB: https://www.stdb.com#CRE #CCIM #STDB #CommercialRealEstate #BrokerTools📺 Subscribe for more episodes weekly🔗 Learn more: subscribe.wgbarron.comThanks To Our Sponsors💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl🛠️ **Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: ⁠stdb.com⁠🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/csResources Mentioned In This Episode👨‍🏫CI102 — https://www.ccim.com/education/ccim-institute-student-tools/find-course?start[date]=&end[date]=&keyword=&sort_bef_combine=default_DESC&title[2756]=2756📰 Our Weekly Newsletter: The Inside Scoop On CRE — ⁠subscribe.wgbarron.com⁠🏬 Barron Commercial Group: CRE Made Simple — ⁠https://barroncommercial.com/⁠🥏 All Disc, No Balls! Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — ⁠tizbee.com⁠00:00:00 - Cold Open00:01:01 - Welcome00:02:55 - Bo Has A Confession00:04:39 - Why Timmy Love STDB00:05:33 - Who Uses STDB?00:07:23 - How Ben Wilson Fell Into His Role At STDB00:08:16 - What Does It Cost To Access STDB?00:09:20 - AD - CRE Investor Coach (https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl), Site To Do Business https://stdb.com00:10:35 - Bo Presents The Scenario For Our Demo00:12:52 - Looking At The Top Performing Locations of COhatch00:14:54 - Searching Within a 3 min Drive Time00:16:58 - The Tapestry Profile00:18:38 - Points of Interest Search00:21:54 - Let’s Look At The Lower Performing COhatch in Duluth00:23:56 - COhatch Will Not Go Down Town00:26:08 - No Easy Access To An Airport?00:29:52 - Creating A Custom Variable (The Psychographic Cocktail Mixer)00:32:04 - The Hexagon Map (Me Want Honeycomb)00:36:52 - Single Location Vs Multiple In the Same Market?00:39:00 - AD - Site To Do Business (https://STDB.com)00:39:39 - How The Tapestry Chart Is Organized00:41:33 - What Do You See, Bo?00:44:32 - Can It Tell Me What Markets To Look At?00:48:01 - Why This Tool Is A Broker’s Superpower!00:50:50 - CI10200:52:39 - How Will AI Change The Way STDB Is Used?00:58:55 - You Might Be Working Yourself Out Of A Job01:00:58 - Data Discovery Tool01:07:14 - Vancouver!01:08:30 - How To Contact Ben Wilson01:09:03 - Outro

Everyone knows the names Knakal, Santomassimo, and Azor… but do you know the woman behind their content?In this episode, we sit down with Mo Regalado, founder of Movo Media, and her content strategist Fly Jamerson, to pull back the curtain on how CRE’s most respected professionals build their online presence — and how you can too.We talk:🔹 What brokers are doing wrong on LinkedIn🔹 Why you are your brand (not your brokerage)🔹 How Mo became the content voice of CRE royalty🔹 The Fly test: Would you actually watch this?🔹 The #1 thing you need to grow on socialWhether you’re a new broker, seasoned investor, or just want to get noticed in CRE — this one’s for you.🎙 Hosted by Timmy & Bo Barron📺 Subscribe for more episodes weekly🔗 Learn more: subscribe.wgbarron.comThanks To Our Sponsors💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl🛠️ **Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: ⁠stdb.com⁠🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/csResources Mentioned In This Episode🌟Movo Media Marketing: MovoMediaMarketing.com🔗 Follow Fly and Mo: @TheMoRegalado, @hey_itsfly📰 Our Weekly Newsletter: The Inside Scoop On CRE — ⁠subscribe.wgbarron.com⁠🏬 Barron Commercial Group: CRE Made Simple — ⁠https://barroncommercial.com/⁠🥏 All Disc, No Balls! Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — ⁠tizbee.com⁠00:00:00 - Cold Open00:01:16 - Welcome00:05:02 - The Woman Behind Bob Knakal’s, Beth Azor’s and Rod Santomassimo’s Socials00:06:37 - Getting Fired for Calling Somebody a “Douche Canoe”00:09:36 - The Beth Azor Interview00:12:28 - AD - CRE Investor Coach (Link in Shownotes), Site To Do Business https://stdb.com00:13:44 - How Much Level Of Control Do You Have?00:15:31 - Why Bo And Timmy Have A Podcast00:16:56 - When Did Fly Arrive?00:20:27 - Most Common Social Media Mistakes You See Broker’s Make00:20:45 - 1. Posting & Ghosting00:22:06 - Is Youtube Considered Social Media?00:23:54 - 2. Not Being ‘Social” On Social Media00:25:26 - Advertising Vs Content Marketing00:28:11 - The 1st Thing You Should Do To Start00:28:35 - Identify Your Audience00:29:03 - Create 5 Content Pillars (Buckets)00:29:21 - Deal Stories00:30:08 - Personal Interests00:31:45 - Voice Memos00:33:00 - Have Fun! (ie Bob Knakal Hot Tub Video)00:34:42 - Dealing with The Haters00:39:31 - Give it 90 Days00:45:08 - The Conduit btw Interest & Conversion00:46:55 - AD - Site To Do Business (https://STDB.com)00:47:34 - Conversations Your Having With Prospects & Clients Should Be The Content You Create For Social Media00:49:51 - How To End Your Piece Of Content00:53:07 - You Have To Start00:55:22 - Critiquing How Bo Engages With Social Media01:00:40 - Followers Don’t Matter Anymore!01:04:41 - Monroe’s Motivated Sequence01:08:57 - Provide Value and The 3 Es: Education, Entertain, Engage01:11:49 - We Connect With Humans, Dumb Ass01:13:32 - What Is The Point? Why Do Social Media?01:19:36 - Being Well Known Makes Everything Easier!01:21:25 - https://MoVoMediaMarketing.com01:23:59 - Rapid Fire Questions01:27:12 - Final Word01:28:00 - Outro

Recorded live, this AI-packed episode breaks down the latest tools actually moving the needle for commercial real estate brokers, investors, and analysts.Michael Hironimus is back to share what’s changed since GPT-4 and where things are heading next. From lead gen to underwriting, pitch decks to property tours — if you’re not using these tools, you’re already behind.We cover:✅ New AI tools CRE pros are adopting fast✅ Real-time data integrations (and why they matter)✅ The gap between automation & analysis — and how to close it✅ Why brokers using AI are eating everyone else's lunch✅ Michael’s go-to stack and live Q&A with the audienceAI isn’t the threat. Other brokers using AI are.🧠 Learn more about Michael: https://superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking🔗 Watch past episodes: https://www.youtube.com/@commerciallyspeaking—🧢 Hosted by Timmy Barron & Bo Barron🎧 New episodes weekly#CRE #AI #MichaelHironimus #CommerciallySpeaking #PropTech #GPT5Thanks To Our Sponsors💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl🛠️ **Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: ⁠stdb.com⁠🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/csResources Mentioned In This Episode7 Day AI For CRE Challenge: https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vR7Lr9M-0xVZVIhCilK1A1TvxgSUUG_7L9zfdyIxNFXwTHUA0dOjXNTVOLjPIOQAeYNOWddnMrkXdu9/pub🔗 Follow Michael on X: @Mike_Hironimus10% OFF Michael’s Ai Course when you use the code: CSPOD ⁠https://www.implementingaiincre.com/📰 Our Weekly Newsletter: The Inside Scoop On CRE — ⁠subscribe.wgbarron.com⁠🏬 Barron Commercial Group: CRE Made Simple — ⁠https://barroncommercial.com/⁠🥏 All Disc, No Balls! Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — ⁠tizbee.com⁠00:00:00 - Cold Open00:00:51 - Intro00:02:31 - Upcoming CCIM Course In Angel’s Envy00:05:40 - ChatGPT-500:15:32 - Claude MCP Servers00:24:30 - Bo Thinks Through CRE Use Cases for MCP Servers00:29:50 - How Timmy Uses AI For Thumbnails and to Animate Photos00:31:15 - Perplexity’s New “Comet” Browser00:38:46 - Automating Entire Workflows with Agentic AI00:47:00 - AD - Site To Do Business (https://STDB.com)00:47:40 - An Avalanche Of Automation00:52:02 - Perplexity’s Bid For Google Chrome00:54:49 - NotebookLM00:55:22 - NotebookLM’s Video Overviews01:01:06 - Study & Learn Feature01:05:56 - GPT - Create a Pop Quiz for the podcast Commercially Speaking01:14:24 - Rapid Fire Questions For Michael01:21:46 - ImplementingAIinCRE.com - Use Code: “CSPOD” for 10% OFF01:21:59 - Outro

What happens when a guy with a physics degree, a Vespa scooter, and a philanthropic mission starts cold calling property owners?Joe Huber, founder of Huber Equity Group, joins us to share how he built a 2,000+ unit multifamily portfolio almost entirely off-market — and why he gives away 20% of profits to fight childhood trauma and water insecurity.We talk:How 150,000 cold calls a year fuels his deal flowWhy "digging for basis" is his favorite investing philosophyThe power of walking away from the right dealWhat it's like to raise $5M for a deal — during COVIDWhy his company fights for profits just to give them awayThis one’s about more than real estate. It’s about building wealth on purpose.🔗 Learn more: HuberEquity.com🎧 Subscribe for more episodes like this every week.Thanks To Our Sponsors💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl🛠️ **Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: ⁠stdb.com⁠🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/csResources Mentioned In This Episode📌 Learn more about Joe: https://huberequitygroup.com/My Village Ministries: https://myvillageministries.com/Design Outreach: Elevating Global Poverty https://doutreach.org/📰 Our Weekly Newsletter: The Inside Scoop On CRE — ⁠subscribe.wgbarron.com⁠💰Hearthstone Capital Fund: Investing in CRE With Purpose: https://hearthstonecre.com/🏬 Barron Commercial Group: CRE Made Simple — ⁠https://barroncommercial.com/⁠🥏 All Disc, No Balls! Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — ⁠tizbee.com⁠00:00:00 - Cold Open00:01:03 - Welcome00:02:40 - Welcome Joe Huber00:04:28 - How I Met Joe00:05:25 - Going from 1 to 2,000 Units00:11:36 - AD - CRE Investor Coach, Site To Do Business stdb.com00:12:50 - Digging For Basis00:15:54 - Losses Hurt More Than Gains Help00:18:52 - How did you know about house flipping?00:21:47 - The Off-Market Strategy00:23:11 - I Got Instant Feedback On Pricing00:24:32 - Vespa Scooter Accidents00:27:54 - One of the Best Deal We Didn’t Do00:30:41 - Bo Breaks It Down For Timmy00:32:00 - We’re Making Sausage00:33:06 - Execution With A Scalpel00:34:39 - Joe’s Secret To Cold Calling00:37:37 - Bo’s Best Cold Open Ever00:40:26 - AD - Site To Do Business (https://STDB.com)00:41:05 - S.o H.appy I.t’s T.hursDay00:43:10 - Transparency When Cold Calling00:43:56 - Why Give 20% Of Your Profits?00:46:22 - We Want To Give Even More!00:48:13 - The Causes We Support: 1. My Village00:52:46 - 2. Design Outreach00:59:04 - Fixing The Malfunctions Of The Wells01:00:17 - Huber Equity Has Inspired Hearthstone To Give01:03:11 - We Want To Make More Of An Impact With The Families In Our Units01:05:45 - Future Goals01:09:01 - CRE Is Not All Evil Like In The Movies01:12:27 - Pop Quiz01:17:42 - Outro01:18:40 - Shoutouts

John Marsh’s story is almost too wild to believe. At 23, he was $1.5M in debt, $99K overdrawn, hooked on meth, and ready to end his life in the attic of his home.Then—everything changed.Today, John and his wife have rebuilt over 200 properties, steward $2B in real estate across America, and are on a mission to save small towns through what he calls “redemptive real estate.”In this episode:The attic moment that changed everythingHow he built wealth without filing bankruptcyWhy “God loves idiots” is his secret to successThe 5 F’s that keep his businesses, marriage, and mission alignedHis $30M “land-based cruise ship” model to revive small-town AmericaWhether you’re in real estate, business, or just love a jaw-dropping comeback story, this one will leave you rethinking what’s possible.📌 Learn more about John: https://www.marshcollective.com/📌 Follow Commercially Speaking for more CRE insightsThanks To Our Sponsors💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl🛠️ **Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: ⁠stdb.com⁠🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/csResources Mentioned In This Episode📌 Learn more about John: https://www.marshcollective.com/📰 Our Weekly Newsletter: The Inside Scoop On CRE — ⁠subscribe.wgbarron.com⁠💰Hearthstone Capital Fund: Investing in CRE With Purpose: https://hearthstonecre.com/🏬 Barron Commercial Group: CRE Made Simple — ⁠https://barroncommercial.com/⁠🥏 All Disc, No Balls! Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — ⁠tizbee.com⁠00:00:00 - Cold Open00:01:38 - Welcome, John Marsh00:06:10 - Well, There’s Hope For Idiots00:08:24 - Money & Girls Tripped My Breakers00:09:39 - $1,500,000 in Debt00:10:11 - AD: CRE Investor Coach, Site To Do Business https://STDB.com00:11:27 - Don’t Die Yourself. Die TO Yourself00:16:22 - Took Us 7 Years To Get Back To Zero00:18:07 - Beauty In Broken Things: The 1st House We Bought00:19:22 - Finding Your Gifts00:22:59 - Looking For Favor00:25:04 - Beyond Residential00:26:47 - Small Town America is Dying00:27:50 - God Cares About PLACES00:32:14 - Measure It To Multiply It: The 5 Fs00:34:30 - What do you mean by “God Talks To You”?00:39:24 - I Can Tell You EXACTLY What I’m Trying To Accomplish00:42:41 - The Model That Will Save Small Towns00:44:15 - Choosing The Small Towns00:47:00 - Redemptification00:49:25 - The Process of Getting It Started00:50:50 - Bo Reminds Timmy What Cash on Cash is00:52:42 - Higher Property Value = Pushing Operational Income Into Rents00:53:17 - AD: http://STDB.com00:53:56 - Bo Breaks It Down For Timmy00:59:23 - The One Thing John’s Said That Keeps Rolling Around In My Head01:01:58 - The Thing That Makes The GREATEST Impact01:04:03 - The Marsh Collective01:07:41 - Capital Camp01:14:50 - Bye Alice!01:15:26 - AD: https://Superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeakingLinks

By 30, Kevin Dean has done more in commercial real estate than most do in a lifetime.In this episode, Kevin joins Bo and Timmy to unpack the mindset, discipline, and high-stakes moves that helped him build an extraordinary track record—while staying grounded in his mission, his family, and his faith.From walking away from security to betting on himself (and winning), Kevin shares:🔥 The 3 questions he asks before every big decision📈 Why CRE is a people game, not a property game💰 How to build wealth without losing your soul🤝 And the power of consistency in both business and beliefThis episode is part playbook, part pep talk, and fully inspiring.If you're in the game—or thinking about leveling up—you need to hear this.🎧 Now streaming on Spotify + YouTube📬 Get our newsletter: subscribe.wgbarron.com🧠 Outsource your busywork: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking#CRE #CommercialRealEstate #KevinDean #Entrepreneurship #RiskTaking #FaithAndBusiness #CommerciallySpeakingThanks To Our Sponsors💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl🛠️ **Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: ⁠stdb.com⁠🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/csResources Mentioned In This EpisodeConnect with Kevin Dean - rockbridgeinv.com📰 Our Weekly Newsletter: The Inside Scoop On CRE — ⁠subscribe.wgbarron.com⁠🏬 Barron Commercial Group: CRE Made Simple — ⁠https://barroncommercial.com/⁠🥏 All Disc, No Balls! Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — ⁠tizbee.com⁠00:00:00 - Welcome Kevin Dean00:03:42 - Selling Golfballs Back To Golfers as a Kid00:05:24 - The Inside Scoop: Fannie Mae00:07:34 - Surprising Insights from Working At Fannie Mae00:09:38 - Bo Explains Debt Service Coverage Ratio To Timmy00:11:07 - Bo Explains Loan To Value (LTV) To Timmy00:12:18 - Bo Explains “Spread” To Timmy00:16:32 - How Kevin Got This Position at 22!00:18:57 - Building A Business On The Commute00:20:02 - What gave you this drive at such a young age?00:22:12 - What Is Rockbridge Investment Group?00:23:24 - How Do You Identify Your Markets?00:25:33 - My Best Deal Was Made At A Pizza Shop00:29:28 - A Unique Impact: Giving a Unit For Free00:33:24 - The ROI of Creating Community00:40:18 - “Build-To-Rent” vs Multi-Family00:44:56 - Is This Resulting In A Lower Turn-Over Rate?00:50:19 - Future Plans00:54:17 - Don’t Be Smart00:55:40 - Book Recs For Your 22 Year Old Self00:58:09 - Being Young Is A HUGE Advantage01:02:44 - The Reps Are The Only Way01:07:59 - Parenting Advice For Entrepreneurs01:26:44 - Supwerpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking01:29:18 - Bye, Alice!

What do you get when you combine $5B+ in deals, a Columbia classroom, and 20 years under CRE legend Bob Knakal?You get James Nelson.In this episode, Bo and Timmy sit down with the host of The Insider’s Edge to talk:💥 The biggest risk threatening commercial real estate today📈 Why most investors lose on timing, not talent🚧 What not to do when raising capital🍼 And yes—James drops a diaper reference that every rookie broker needs to hearThis is a CRE masterclass wrapped in humor, war stories, and hard truth.If you're in the game or thinking about getting in, don’t miss this one.🎧 Full episodes on YouTube + Spotify + Apple Podcasts👉Get Jame Nelson’s 📖book, 👂podcast, 📰newsletter and 📑Forbes contributions all in one place: jamesnelson.com📬 Our free CRE newsletter: subscribe.wgbarron.com👨‍💻 Delegate everything: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking#CRE #CommercialRealEstate #JamesNelson #TheInsidersEdge #MasseyKnakal #NYCRealEstate #BrokerLife #CommerciallySpeakingThanks To Our Sponsors💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl🛠️ **Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: ⁠stdb.com⁠🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/csResources Mentioned In This EpisodeBuy James Nelson's Book, Listen To His Podcast, Subscribe To His Newsletter & Read Him In Forbes - Jamesnelson.com📰 Our Weekly Newsletter: The Inside Scoop On CRE — ⁠subscribe.wgbarron.com⁠🏬 Barron Commercial Group: CRE Made Simple — ⁠https://barroncommercial.com/⁠🥏 All Disc, No Balls! Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — ⁠tizbee.com⁠00:00 - Start02:56 - Welcome03:49 - James Nelson (The Insider’s Edge)07:01 - Who Is James Nelson?10:30 - Day In The Life Being The Head Of Investment Sales For Avison Young14:35 - Writing The Book On Commercial Real Estate Investing16:11 - The 2 Main Reasons That Hold People Back From Investing18:07 - The #1 Thing Driving Deals Right Now (and other seller motivators)21:09 - Bo Explains “Short Sale” To Timmy23:53 - Loan Sales and Recourse vs Non-Recourse28:52 - The Biggest Threat To The Industry Right Now33:50 - Starting The Insider’s Edge Podcast38:49 - How James Nelson’s Landed His 1st Deal40:19 - Bo Breaks It Down For Timmy41:07 - Jame’s 1st Deal Continued42:48 - “Air Rights” and Vegas45:39 - Pop Quiz49:18 - I’ll Let You Live Here For 2 More Week51:40 - JamesNelson.com53:44 - Barbara Corcoran Story!!!! We are a step closer, folks!!!!!!55:23 - superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking

100% bonus depreciation is back—and it’s permanent.In this episode, CPA and fan-favorite Kevin Bassett returns to break down the tax bill shaking up the commercial real estate world.From massive tax write-offs for CRE pros and investors, to bonus depreciation on entire manufacturing buildings, to the new wave of opportunity zones—this is everything you need to know to protect your margins and maximize your returns.Plus:What brokers and syndicators should do immediatelyWhy the IRS owes cost segregation companies a bottle of champagneThe surprising end to electric vehicle creditsAnd yes, a plea to Barbara Corcoran to join usWhether you're a CRE broker, investor, or just someone who enjoys watching tax legislation get absolutely roasted, this episode is for you.🎧 Listen now on YouTube + Spotify + Apple Podcasts📬 Get our newsletter: subscribe.wgbarron.com🤖 Get a virtual assistant: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking#CRE #CommercialRealEstate #BonusDepreciation #TrumpTaxBill #CostSegregation #OpportunityZones Takeaways-The new bill has major implications for commercial real estate professionals and investors.-100% bonus depreciation allows for significant tax deductions in the first year of property purchase.-Opportunity zones are being renewed, providing new investment opportunities.-Energy credits related to electric vehicles and energy-efficient buildings are expiring soon.-Section 179D is also set to expire, affecting energy-efficient improvements.-Tax rates from 2018 have been made permanent, benefiting many taxpayers.-New deductions for seniors and families are being introduced, providing additional tax relief.-The SALT deduction remains a contentious issue among lawmakers.-The bill is not solely beneficial for the wealthy; it includes provisions for lower-income individuals.-The commercial real estate market may see increased demand due to these tax incentives.Chapters00:00:00 - Cold Open00:03:20 - Welcome Kevin Bassett, CPA00:05:06 - What’s Going on With This Big Beautiful Bill?00:06:07 - 100% Depreciation00:08:28 - What Bonus Depreciation Means for Brokers00:10:12 - Manufacturing Bonus: 100% Depreciation on Entire Building!00:12:17 - Bo simplifies 100% Bonus Depreciation on Manufacturing for Timmy00:15:08 - Opportunity Zones To Be Renewed00:18:17 - Energy Credits: If you’re in the market for an EV, listen up! (Time Sensitive Information)00:21:52 - Bonus Depreciation vs Section 17900:25:37 - Extending the 2017 Tax Rates00:27:08 - A Massive One: Section 199A (QBI)00:29:50 - The Giveaways (New Deductions The Lower Tax Brackets)00:31:05 - The Senior’s Deduction00:31:58 - Raised Child Credits00:32:10 - No Tax on Tips/Overtime00:37:52 - Car Loan: Up to $10k Deduction on loan interest00:39:30 - 1031 Tax Deferred Exchange Remains Untouched00:40:26 - SALT Deduction: The Biggest Fight Of All00:42:07 - Bo Simplifies SALT Deductions For Timmy00:46:41 - The Truth About This Bill Being For The Rich: (Limits on Itemized Deductions)00:49:50 - Listener Question: Will This Spur New Development?00:51:54 - https://bassettcpas.com/00:53:47 - Bo’s Big Beautiful Breakdown01:02:37 - Timmy Questions Bo’s Dislike of EVs01:05:33 - Shoutouts!01:06:33 - Bye Alice!🔔 Subscribe for weekly CRE chaos + genius: @CommerciallySpeakingThanks To Our Sponsors💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl🛠️ **Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: ⁠stdb.com⁠🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/csResources Mentioned In This EpisodeSign up for Kevin’s newsletter and connect with him - Bassettcpas.com📰 Our Weekly Newsletter: The Inside Scoop On CRE — ⁠subscribe.wgbarron.com⁠🏬 Barron Commercial Group: CRE Made Simple — ⁠https://barroncommercial.com/⁠🥏 All Disc, No Balls! Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — ⁠tizbee.com⁠

This might be the most practical AI episode we’ve done yet.Bo shows Timmy (and you) how he’s using Gamma—an AI-powered presentation tool—to build stunning commercial real estate pitch decks in minutes. No more slogging through PowerPoint. No more ugly slides. No more wasted weekends.💥 You’ll learn how to:– Use ChatGPT and Gamma to build custom marketing decks– Ditch the design stress (Gamma does it for you)– Save hours on proposals, flyers, and CRE presentations– Get buy-in from clients fast🎁 Bonus: Bo shares a sneak peek of his “digital brain” device—an AI-powered note-taking assistant that captures ideas on the fly and actually organizes them.This one’s equal parts demo, dumb jokes, and download-worthy workflow.You’re gonna want to steal this system.🎧 Listen now on Spotify and YouTube🔔 Subscribe for weekly CRE chaos + genius: @CommerciallySpeaking#CRE #AItools #GammaAI #CommercialRealEstate #PitchDecks #CommerciallySpeaking #BroPodThanks To Our Sponsors💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — ⁠https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl⁠🛠️ **Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: ⁠⁠stdb.com⁠⁠🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: ⁠superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking⁠📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – ⁠wesgay.com/cs⁠Resources Mentioned In This Episode10% OFF Michael’s Ai Course when you use the code: CSPOD ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.implementingaiincre.com/⁠📰 Our Weekly Newsletter: The Inside Scoop On CRE — ⁠⁠subscribe.wgbarron.com⁠⁠🏬 Barron Commercial Group: CRE Made Simple — ⁠⁠https://barroncommercial.com/⁠⁠🥏 All Disc, No Balls! Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — ⁠⁠tizbee.com⁠⁠Chapters00:00 Introduction to Commercially Speaking Podcast02:41 AI in Presentation Creation09:52 The Power of Visual Storytelling17:05 Leveraging AI for Marketing Plans21:24 Creating Engaging Presentations with AI25:41 Pitching Barbara Corcoran for the Podcast27:30 Introduction to the Podcast Dynamics28:11 The Unique Blend of Humor and Learning in CRE35:11 Leveraging AI for Efficiency in Real Estate39:55 Understanding the Magnitude of Numbers

What’s the real threat to commercial real estate professionals?(Hint: It’s not AI—it’s doing things the way you’ve always done them.)Michael Hironimus is back, and this time he’s bringing a full-on masterclass in how CRE pros can leverage AI to get ahead—before they get left behind.In this episode, we cover:🔹 How AI is changing underwriting, proposals, and deal speed🔹 Real-world examples of brokers getting smoked by smarter systems🔹 What tools you should actually be using (and what to ignore)🔹 The CRE-specific prompts that will blow your mind🔹 Why “early adopters” are about to eat your lunchIf you want to stay relevant, efficient, and profitable in this new era of brokerage, this is the episode to watch.🎧 Commercially Speaking Ep. 106 w/ Michael HironimusDrops tomorrow on YouTube + Spotify.Subscribe now—before your competition does.00:00:00 – Cold Open00:04:21 – Introduction and AI Training Discussion00:06:53 – Upcoming CCIM Classes and Events00:09:58 – Guest Introduction: Michael Hieronymus00:12:44 – AI in Commercial Real Estate: Current Trends00:15:15 – Exciting Developments in AI Technology00:18:02 – Integration of AI Tools in Daily Workflows00:20:54 – Case Studies and Practical Applications of AI00:23:49 – Future of AI in Personalization and Automation00:26:45 – Leveraging AI for Personalization00:32:09 – Privacy Concerns in AI Integration00:35:18 – Advancements in Image and Video Generation00:47:54 – Engaging the Next Generation of Clients00:50:32 – Crafting Effective Presentations with AI00:55:23 – The Evolution of Presentation Design00:57:59 – Integrating AI Tools for Enhanced Workflow01:01:29 – Exploring AI in Creative Content Creation01:04:10 – The Future of AI in Real-Time Interaction01:09:12 – Leveraging AI for Business Intelligence01:12:37 – Exploring Vibe Coding and AI Integration01:18:25 – The Role of AI in Education01:22:16 – Practical Applications of AI in Real Estate01:28:24 – The Future of Work with Agentic AI01:36:10 – Learning and Adapting with AI ToolsThanks To Our Sponsors💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl🛠️ **Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: ⁠stdb.com⁠🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/csResources Mentioned In This Episode🔗 Follow Michael on X: @Mike_Hironimus10% OFF Michael’s Ai Course when you use the code: CSPOD ⁠https://www.implementingaiincre.com/📰 Our Weekly Newsletter: The Inside Scoop On CRE — ⁠subscribe.wgbarron.com⁠🏬 Barron Commercial Group: CRE Made Simple — ⁠https://barroncommercial.com/⁠🥏 All Disc, No Balls! Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — ⁠tizbee.com⁠

We sat down with Nick Huber—one of the most loved and hated voices in commercial real estate Twitter—and confronted him with his most controversial tweets in our new segment: “Defend That Tweet.”But this episode isn’t just Twitter drama. We dive deep into:How Nick built a $150M storage empireWhy he believes "common things done uncommonly well" is the secret to real wealthHow to raise capital without beggingWhat’s wrong with the current culture of entrepreneurshipWhy he picks fights online—and what it’s really done for his businessYou might not agree with everything he says... but you won’t be able to stop listening.sweatystartup.comBuy Nick’s Book: https://a.co/d/cjNKEpJ🎯 Whether you're a CRE pro, an aspiring entrepreneur, or just here for the internet chaos, this is an episode you don’t want to miss.🎧 Listen now on YouTube, Spotify and Apple Podcasts📢 Subscribe + drop a comment with your favorite quote from the episodeThanks To Our Sponsors💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/csResources Mentioned In This Episode🔗 Follow Nick Huber on X: @sweatystartuphttps://sweatystartup.com/Hire a remote team for your business: https://somewhere.com/📰 Our Weekly Newsletter: The Inside Scoop On CRE — subscribe.wgbarron.com🏬 Barron Commercial Group: CRE Made Simple — https://barroncommercial.com/🥏 All Disc, No Balls! Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — tizbee.com00:00 - Cold Open03:53 - Welcome05:02 - CCIM Classes Coming Up06:44 - Welcome, Nick Huber08:37 - 45 sec origin story09:21 - “The Sweaty Startup: How To Get Rich Doing Simple Things”11:15 - Where are the dumb people making good money?13:16 - My beef with entrepreneurship culture15:06 - “Follow Your Heart” Makes Me Angry16:25 - Why Is it So Satisfying To Do a Boring Job Well?20:35 - Everybody wants it right now25:07 - Flipping The Script When Pitching Investors28:55 - What’s wrong With Gary V’s Messaging?30:56 - Working In Waves32:49 - Working 60/70 hours a week warps your perception34:14 - Tell us about Twitter39:38 - Defend That Tweet50:14 - The Dark Side Of Influence52:02 - I understand why you wrote this book.55:56 - Final Thoughts on His Book57:27 - Outro58:24 - Happy Gilmore 2

What happens when you mix AI, hyperlocal intel, and one of the fastest-growing land brokers in Texas? You get Josh Bryan—a CRE pro who turned spreadsheets into a digital map room and land deals into generational wealth.In this episode, we dive deep into how Josh went from an ad agency guy to what Bo calls “the Bob Knakal of Texas land.” You’ll learn how he’s tracking entitlements, planning for development, and navigating the politics of zoning like a master. We also get into how AI is changing the game, why brokers must become consultants, and how the next generation of CRE leaders will need to think differently to survive.Whether you’re a land broker, developer, or just trying to understand what the hell entitlements are—this is the episode for you.🎯 Topics Covered:What “entitlements” really meanHow Josh maps city council data to outsmart the competitionThe danger of lazy brokerageAI’s role in the future of CRE—and why it won’t replace top brokersBuilding a digital map room to dominate your market👉 Listen now on Spotify and YouTube🔗 Subscribe for more no-BS CRE conversations every weekThanks To Our Sponsors💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/csResources Mentioned In This Episode🔗 Connect with Josh Bryan: https://bryanhaggardland.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/josh-bryan-535a136/📰 Our Weekly Newsletter: The Inside Scoop On CRE — subscribe.wgbarron.com🏬 Barron Commercial Group: CRE Made Simple — https://barroncommercial.com/🥏 All Disc, No Balls! Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — tizbee.com⏰Time Code⏰00:00:00 - Cold Open00:03:18 - Welcome00:04:07 - Mom Gave Me A Ride To Work Today00:05:37 - Tell Us About Josh Bryan00:07:16 - If I’m Honest, Land Bores Me00:08:00 - Josh Bryan Origin Story00:16:26 - Unpacking “Entitlements”00:17:56 - It’s A Long Drawn Out Process00:22:30 - “The Process Goes Like This”00:28:24 - The “Bob Knakal” of Land In TX00:28:59 - How Josh Is Using Data To Drive Business00:30:43 - This Is One Of Those Deal Stories.00:37:46 - The Digital “Map Room”00:41:13 - How Do You Even Use Google Maps For This?00:42:36 - No Better Time To Specialize In Data Than Right Now00:46:34 - Are you Concerned Ai Will Eliminate The Need For A Broker?00:51:16 - How The Different Generations Are Using Ai00:53:20 - Tell Us About Liam01:04:57 - How Robert Downy Jr. Got Away With Black Face

What happens when a husband and wife decide to bet big on each other and on commercial real estate?In this episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy sit down with Brent and Amy Miller, the couple behind Synergy Investments, to unpack how they’ve built more than just a successful firm—they’ve built a place people never want to leave.📈 What You’ll Learn:Why they treat every hire like family—and how that pays offHow they balance marriage and business without losing their mindsWhat it really looks like to make scary, stretch investments togetherWhy empathy, trust, and transparency are their competitive edgeHow to build a culture that outlasts your competitionWhether you're married, in business, or both—this one will hit you where it matters.🎧 Episode 103 is live now on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts.Connect with Brent and Amy: https://synergyinvestmentfund.com/Thanks To Our Sponsors💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/csResources Mentioned In This Episode🔗 Invest Brent and Amy: https://synergyinvestmentfund.com/📰 Our Weekly Newsletter: The Inside Scoop On CRE — subscribe.wgbarron.com🏬 Barron Commercial Group: CRE Made Simple — https://barroncommercial.com/🥏 All Disc, No Balls! Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — tizbee.com00:00:00 - Cold Open00:03:05 - Welcome00:03:56 - Let Me Tell You About Brent & Amy Miller00:09:19 - Do you come here often?00:11:54 - Amy’s intro into CRE00:13:30 - Our Client Was Bo Barron00:14:44 - The 1st Investment00:19:09 - Tell me about your boys, Amy00:22:04 - Alright, I’ve got a question about Marinas00:24:31 - That’s how networking works00:27:01 - Brokers be talkin’00:32:26 - Tell us a little bit about your fund00:34:30 - What deals are you looking for?00:36:10 - At what point should I call you?00:37:55 - And what about the investment side?00:40:55 - CRE Investor Coach00:41:48 - Soft Commitments00:43:02 - What makes an investor a good fit?00:46:58 - That term annoys me00:48:36 - What are some of the fears that hold people back that an LP seat solves?00:50:15 - Fear is an indicator of your biggest opportunities00:58:14 - What’s your pump up song?01:03:01 - Go into business with family or no?01:06:53 - Could you work with your wife?01:08:54 - Where can they find you?01:11:20 - How does everybody not know this?

🏡 What if you could be the developer your hometown has been waiting for?In this episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy sit down with Kristi Kandel, a powerhouse real estate developer on a mission to revitalize overlooked communities by empowering locals to lead the change themselves.From her early days developing Family Dollars across California to building a self-managing company and launching Local Real Estate Developer, Kristi is bridging the gap between mission and money. This episode is about creating freedom, wealth, and community impact—all at once.🎯 What You’ll Learn:Why 75% of U.S. cities are under 10,000 people—and full of opportunityHow locals (not corporations) are the key to Main Street’s comebackHow to know if your town is ready for developmentWhat makes someone a great developer (it’s not what you think)How Kristi turned a bored-with-success moment into a new nationwide movementThe framework she's using to help real people create real change🎧 Whether you’re a flipper, a W2 warrior, or just someone with a dream for your town—this episode will spark something.Listen now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube.🔗 Learn more and get connected: LocalRealEstateDeveloper.comThanks To Our Sponsors💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/csResources Mentioned In This Episode🔗 Learn more and get connected: LocalRealEstateDeveloper.com📰 Our Weekly Newsletter: The Inside Scoop On CRE — subscribe.wgbarron.com🏬 Barron Commercial Group: CRE Made Simple — https://barroncommercial.com/🥏 All Disc, No Balls! Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — tizbee.com00:00:00 - Cold Open00:04:14 - Welcome Kristi Kandel00:16:16 - Why Krispy Kreme Failed In Our Small Town00:19:43 - “Nobody Else Thinks They Can Do It”00:23:40 - Timmy Teaches Bo Word.00:25:13 - The 2 Types Of People That Can Become Developers00:27:29 - The Power Of Being a Local!00:29:25 - How Do I Know There’s Demand For Development00:34:41 - Pickleball00:37:09 - The Qualities/Characteristics of A Good Developer00:39:54 - Risk Tolerance, Problem Solving, Organization00:41:22 - A Strong Why00:42:56 - Every Community Has A Developer Who Doesn’t Know It Yet00:44:18 - How Did You Meet Beth Azor?00:45:48 - The Ripple Effect00:48:58 - The Impact You Can Make Is Huge!00:50:35 - AI Advisory Board00:56:18 - Navigating Working with Friends01:02:49 - Executive Assistants (superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking )01:05:18 - Pop Quiz

📈 2,351 buildings sold. One legendary career. One brand-new book.In this kickoff to Season 3 of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy Barron are joined by Bob Knakal, the man who's sold more buildings than anyone ever documented—and Rod Santomassimo, his longtime coach and co-author of the new book, Selling Buildings.This episode is a masterclass in brokerage, relationships, risk, data, leadership, and legacy. You’ll hear:🔥 Why Bob ran to the deli on 9/11—and how that moment changed his business forever📊 How he averaged more than one building sale per week over four decades🧠 Why Rod believes conviction + curiosity are the real broker superpowers💥 What to do during a downturn, and how big bets during hard times pay off🏙️ Why Bob believes right now may be the best buying moment NYC has ever seenThey also share behind-the-scenes stories, including:Bob’s obsession with baseball stats and how it shaped his sales careerThe origins of his now-iconic “broker baseball card”The strategic decisions that made Massey Knakal legendaryWhy Barbara Corcoran, Ryan Serhant, and other CRE titans are backing this new book🎧 Whether you're an investor, a broker, or just a numbers nerd, this is one episode you don’t want to miss.👉 Available now on Spotify, YouTube, and Apple Podcasts🛒 Buy the book: Selling Buildings by Bob Knakal and Rod Santomassimo — Available now on Amazon https://a.co/d/6FTfXIPBob's Previous Episode: https://youtu.be/YRaKpbzMjiQ?si=aytG-cbsr_F8W-z9Rod's Previous Episode: https://youtu.be/UA0u5CMTb9Y?si=rl9mwlCb00qd7E1DThanks To Our Sponsors💰🏙️ CRE Investor Coach: No Guess Work, No Wasted Time — https://bit.ly/43t6Vrl🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/csResources Mentioned In This Episode📚 ”Selling Buildings” by Bob Knakal & Rod Santomassimo — https://a.co/d/6FTfXIP📰 Our Weekly Newsletter: The Inside Scoop On CRE — subscribe.wgbarron.com🏬 Barron Commercial Group: CRE Made Simple — https://barroncommercial.com/🥏 All Disc, No Balls! Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — tizbee.com⏰ Timecode ⏰00:00 - Cold Open03:49 - Welcome Bob “BFK” Knakal & Rod “CAC” Santomassimo06:50 - Why Did You Write The Book?10:50 - From Coach To Best Friend13:40 - Barbara Corcoran16:28 - The Book17:14 - Where Were You On 9/11?24:01 - This Isn’t Just A Book Of Stories26:36 - The Inflection Point Of 9/1131:11 - Downturn Tactics36:20 - The 4 Cs37:56 - Nothing Is Absolute40:58 - Baseball’s Influence On Bob’s Success46:11 - The Key To Differentiating Yourself48:28 - How Are Deals Different Now Than They Were 40 Years Ago?51:33 - BKREA Update56:11 - Bob’s Got A New Goal59:13 - Bob F***ing Knakal

🎉 100 episodes later… we bring you the woman who started it all: our mom.In this very special milestone episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy sit down with Jo Barron, the original communicator, a real estate entrepreneur, teacher, ballerina, and matriarch of the Barron family. What starts as a celebration of 100 episodes becomes a heartfelt, hilarious, and often tear-inducing journey through faith, marriage, parenting, storytelling, hospitality, entrepreneurship, and legacy.Jo shares how she sold condos in Acapulco, turned open houses into theater, started a Century 21 franchise in a hotel lobby, raised six kids (plus a few extras), and came to faith in Christ in her 30s—all while never backing down from a good story or a great handshake.🎙️ What You’ll Hear:How Jo sold luxury condos on the beach at age 22The story of breaking off her engagement… then winning back Bo and Timmy’s dadWhy communication is the most underrated real estate skillHer unlikely experience with machine guns, money counting, and a Tommy gun at 14How hospitality shaped their family—and 12+ families who lived in their homeWhat it means to truly listen, truly lead, and truly love🎧 You don’t need to know CRE to love this episode—you just need a mom.Join us in honoring a life well-lived and a legacy still unfolding.👉 Listen now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or YouTube📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/cs🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking🥏All Disc, No Balls! — Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — tizbee.com💡 Massimo Group – World-class coaching for CRE brokers: massimo-group.com🛠️ Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: stdb.comTime Code00:00:00 - It’s Finally Happening!00:02:12 - Thanks To Our Sponsors!00:02:47 - Can We Open With Prayer?00:03:57 - Why Didn’t You Want To Do This?00:06:05 - Bo Started In Residential!!?00:11:19 - Why Am I Here!?00:13:19 - If Communication Is Hereditary, We Got It From You00:15:40 - Everyone’s Favorite Mom00:17:37 - Can’t Tell You How Many Times She’s Been Pulled Over00:23:52 - Little Backstory00:25:48 - The Innovative and Creative Jim Rogers00:28:33 - Shake The Hand, Look ‘Em In The Eye and Remember Their Name00:32:33 - The Transfer To Louisville00:34:17 - Why Timmy Loves Chicago00:36:50 - The Importance Of Family00:39:23 - What Did You Want To Do In College?00:40:43 - Mom Goes To Mexico00:44:56 - Mom’s intro into Real Estate00:47:10 - Let Me Introduce Our Mexican Brother, Rodrigo00:53:52 - Be Hospitable00:58:50 - Selling Beach Front Real Estate In Mexico01:03:29 - Realizing Dad Was Different Than The Others01:13:35 - The Moment My Dad Knew He Like Your Dad01:17:03 - Where I Come From They Taught Us Not To Pee On OUR Hands01:18:56 - The Sting!01:21:53 - How Dad Proposed (Asked For Mom’s Hand In Marriage)01:25:19 - Will I Be Satisfied In Owensboro, KY?01:30:18 - So What Was Your Plan For Work?01:32:05 - A Man With A Machine Gun!?01:35:51 - Serving Tables01:38:24 - Switchboard Operator01:42:16 - The Power Of A Smile01:44:48 - Learning The Corporate Structure01:47:46 - Why Don’t You Come Work With Me?01:49:38 - Why Don’t You Just Open Up A Real Estate Company?01:56:13 - A New Life02:00:00 - There Is No Substitute For “Mom” (or “Dad”)02:02:34 - The Turning Point02:15:53 - You Were Changing02:23:43 - Love Covers A Multitude Of Sins02:34:14 - I Think It Is About You02:36:53 - You Are The Greatest Mom Ever!

Marketing isn’t magic—it’s just sales at scale. In this episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy sit down with marketing expert Wes Gay to unpack why most commercial real estate professionals struggle to generate leads—and what to do about it.From crafting crystal-clear messaging to playing the guide (not the hero), Wes walks brokers through a smarter, simpler way to get real results. You’ll learn:Why flexing on social media backfiresHow to talk so your ideal client actually listensThe 3 things every broker should be doing to win more dealsWhy storytelling frameworks like StoryBrand can radically shift your approachThe power of empathy in establishing authority and trustWhether you’re a seasoned broker or just trying to get your marketing off the ground, this episode will change how you think about building your brand.🎯 Don’t miss this masterclass in message clarity, lead generation, and CRE growth.🎧 Listen now on Spotify and YouTube🔗 Join Wes and Bo’s marketing cohort at wesgay.com/CS📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/cs🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking🥏All Disc, No Balls! — Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — tizbee.com💡 Massimo Group – World-class coaching for CRE brokers: massimo-group.com🛠️ Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: stdb.com⏰Time Code⏰00:00 - Start00:14 - Cold Open01:08 - Thanks To Our Sponsors02:53 - Most Companies Are Really Bad At Talking About Themselves05:07 - Posting to flex05:30 - The Ideal Client Story08:00 - What problem are we solving? tension attracts attention09:35 - There’s an end goal in mind10:13 - The Client Is The Hero11:21 - We Are The Guide12:01 - Empathy + Authority = The Guide12:58 - So How Do We Demonstrate Our Authority In A Way That Wins Clients?16:02 - Marketing Overwhelm16:55 - What Works For CRE? (Direct Mail, Email, Podcasts, LinkedIn and Twitter/X)18:50 - Thanks To Our Sponsors19:53 - Where and How To CONSISTENTLY Demonstrate Your Expertise22:08 - Are Even Sure That Our Audience Knows What Brokers Do?23:15 - People Transact CRE For Only 2 Reasons!23:59 - Give Your Knowledge Away For Free?25:02 - Just Be An Expert Who Explains Things To People In A Way They Can Understand26:12 - “So, Here’s The Plan!”26:39 - Success Or Failure: The Way You Wrap The Story Up27:18 - CRE Marketing Mastermind30:49 - You Don’t Have To Do Social Media Unless You Do!32:58 - Before We Let You Go…34:23 - Pop Quiz

🚨 What happens when CRE goes terribly wrong? In this episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy welcome Stuart and Ethan from Lipscomb Restoration to talk floods, fires, mold, and mayhem—and why disaster cleanup is the most overlooked skill in commercial real estate.From self-storage infernos to basement floods no one saw coming, this episode is packed with real stories of real estate gone wrong—plus insider tips on how to protect your investment before disaster hits. Whether you're a broker, investor, or property owner, this one’s a must-listen.🎯 Here’s what you’ll learn:Why commercial property insurance might not cover what you thinkHow one rooftop plumbing fail wrecked 3 stories of a buildingThe hidden threat of “category 3” water and how to handle itWhat mold, mice, and mystery smells can really cost youHow to build a disaster plan that saves you money and stress🎧 Listen now on Spotify and YouTube—and subscribe for more behind-the-scenes CRE stories.🔗 Resources Mentioned:💧Lipscomb Restoration Solutions - https://www.lipscombhydracleaning.com/💦Lipscomb On Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/LipscombHydraCleaning📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/cs🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeakingAll Disc, No Balls! — Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — tizbee.com💡 Massimo Group – World-class coaching for CRE brokers: massimo-group.com🛠️ Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: stdb.com⏰Time Code⏰00:00:00 - Cold Open00:01:30 - Thanks to our sponsors00:02:10 - When Things Go Wrong00:05:23 - How Does Someone Go Into Restoration?00:10:42 - How To Talk Your Friend Into Joining Your Restoration Business00:12:19 - Carpet Cleaning Goes Viral00:16:37 - All Insurance Companies Are Not Created Equal00:20:26 - An Idea For Using Ai To Shop for Insurance00:23:51 - Language vs Interpretation of Insurance Policies00:27:44 - A Strange Rain In Central City00:31:26 - Contamination (Sh*t) Levels Explained00:32:24 - Moister Meters00:35:08 - The Mold You Know00:36:34 - Any Room, Any Time, All At Once! (Mold)00:38:00 - The Question Is: “Is There A Problem?”00:39:54 - When To Call Y’all?00:43:07 - How To Handle Smoke00:48:03 - Restoration vs Re-modeling00:49:36 - Ye Ole Freeze & Bust00:50:49 - When The Water Rises So Does Business00:53:18 - Being There For People’s Worst Days00:54:26 - Trauma Amnesia00:58:11 - Common Mistake Property Owners Make When Things Go Wrong01:00:19 - Who You Gonna Call… First? (Insurance or Professional)01:05:37 - Preventative Measures01:09:09 - When To Let Your Faucets Drip?01:12:06 - Flood By TikTok01:13:17 - Ethan Give Stuart A Bath01:17:10 - Material Selections01:20:42 - Outro!

🚨 Is industrial real estate on the verge of a major shift? In this episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy Barron welcome back fan-favorite Chad Griffiths for a deep dive into what’s really going on in industrial CRE—from tariffs and trade wars to data center bubbles and global power shifts.Chad brings his signature mix of humor, insight, and t-shirt-worthy wisdom to explain how tariffs, political chaos, and supply chain uncertainty are creating both risk and opportunity. From the Trump administration’s trade tactics to the rise of fake data centers, this conversation pulls no punches and delivers must-know insights for anyone navigating the industrial real estate space in 2025.🎯 Key Topics Covered:Why the U.S. is becoming more protectionist—and what that means for Canadian investorsThe truth about data center speculation and what could pop the bubbleHow small-bay and mid-bay warehouses may be the strongest CRE play right nowWhat to know about industrial outdoor storage (IOS) and where institutional money is headedWhy global friendships are shifting and what history teaches us about today’s alliances🎧 Listen now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or YouTube—and don’t forget to hit subscribe, comment, and if someone came to mind during this episode, share it with them!🔗 Resources Mentioned:Connect With Chad Griffiths: Twitter (X)- @chadgriffiths YT: https://www.youtube.com/@industrialize📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/cs🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeakingAll Disc, No Balls! — Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — tizbee.com💡 Massimo Group – World-class coaching for CRE brokers: massimo-group.com🛠️ Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: stdb.com⏰Time Code⏰00:00:00 - Welcome00:00:56 - Thank You to Massimo Group and Site To Do Business For Sponsoring This Episode00:01:31 - Welcome Back Our Favorite Canadian and The Industrial King, Chad Griffiths00:03:07 - Sorry About The Tariff’s, Man00:04:18 - Canadian Gift00:08:44 - “We’re #2!” (A Brilliant Avis Campaign)00:09:42 - Let’s Get Back To Tariffs00:11:31 - Trade Tension (War)00:13:22 - 3 Goofballs Talk Ukraine00:19:39 - A Brief History Of WWII00:23:12 - The End Of Globalization?00:31:27 - Data Center Outlook Since DeepSeek’s Coming Out Party00:35:15 - No Clear Exit Strategy00:37:11 - One Giant Data Center Bubble?00:38:16 - Thanks To Our Sponsors00:39:20 - I Like How Exciting Data Centers Are But….00:40:33 - People Are Building Fake Data Centers (Groq CEO)00:42:11 - Are Data Centers Real Estate?00:42:51 - 1.21 Gigawatts!00:44:57 - If You Build It, Will They Come??00:46:07 - Are There Actually Fake Data Centers Out There?00:47:56 - Groq vs Grok00:50:58 - Most Exciting Thing In Industrial Real Estate For 2025?00:54:26 - Mid Bay vs Small Bay Industrial00:56:01 - Mary Jane Update For Timmy00:59:12 - Pop Quiz01:04:51 - Outro

🚨 748 government leases TERMINATED…SO FAR! Elon Musk and the Trump administration’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) are on a mission to cut costs, slash office space, and reshape commercial real estate—but is this the biggest shake-up in CRE history or just political theater?In this explosive episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy Barron sit down with GSA insider-turned-broker Chad Becker to break down:🔥 Why the government is gutting office leases (and what it means for landlords)🔥 How Elon’s efficiency mandate is wiping out government office space🔥 Why landlords with GSA tenants could be in big trouble🔥 The real reason behind DOGE’s $105 billion in ‘savings’ (spoiler: it’s NOT what you think)🔥 The cities that will be hit hardest by federal lease terminations🔥 What does all this mean for Commercial Real Estate Professionals?📍 Plus: Chad reveals how some landlords "win" a government lease but lose millions, the real story behind GSA lease clauses, and whether this federal downsizing is a smart move or a disaster waiting to happen.🎧 The biggest story in commercial real estate is unfolding—don’t miss it! Listen now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or YouTube!🔗 Resources Mentioned:📊 GSA Lease Termination Map – Track which markets are getting hit https://www.linkedin.com/in/tchadbecker/🚀 DOGE Efficiency Report – Breaking down the $105B in ‘savings’ https://doge.gov/savings🏢 Chad’s Website (ARCO Real Estate Solutions) – arcoresolutions.com📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/cs🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeakingAll Disc, No Balls! — Tizbee, The Secret Game Of Champions — tizbee.com💡 Massimo Group – World-class coaching for CRE brokers: massimo-group.com🛠️ Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: stdb.comChapters00:00 Cold Open02:06 The Impact of Government Policies on Commercial Real Estate04:01 Understanding GSA and Its Role in Real Estate10:18 The Unique Nature of GSA Leases19:51 Termination Clauses and Their Implications29:42 Creative Deal Structuring in GSA Leasing33:39 The Future of GSA Leases and Market Trends36:14 Navigating the Landscape of Federal Leases37:22 Understanding the Current Federal Real Estate Strategy45:07 The Return to Office: Implications and Challenges50:20 The Impact of Lease Terminations on Federal Employees56:38 Opportunities in Federal Real Estate: A New Perspective01:03:43 Streamlining Federal Building Disposal Processes01:09:39 Analyzing GSA Lease Terminations and Market Trends01:17:43 Engaging in a Fun Pop Quiz01:20:47 Closing Thoughts and Future Insights

Ever wonder how some CRE brokers land six-figure commissions for “doing nothing”—and why that’s not the full story? In this episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy Barron sit down with James Milner, CCIM, a commercial broker and CCIM leader, to uncover the reality of commercial real estate brokerage, how the industry really works, and why earning a CCIM designation is a game-changer.James shares his journey from real estate paralegal to CCIM leader, explains the hardest part of breaking into commercial real estate, and reveals how brokers really make money (hint: it’s not as easy as it looks!). Plus, he gives an inside look at why CCIM is the gold standard in CRE education and what brokers need to do to earn it.🔑 Key Takeaways:How brokers actually get paid (and why some fees seem too good to be true)The biggest mistakes new brokers make (and how to avoid them)What CCIM is and how it can 10X your career in CREWhy some deals require brokers to step back—and when they should step inThe impact of Hurricane Helene on Boone, NC, and how businesses are rebuilding📍 Plus: Timmy takes another CCIM pop quiz, James gives his top 3 reasons portfolios get rejected, and Bo shares the number one mistake he made when submitting his CCIM portfolio.🎧 Listen now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or YouTube!🔗 Resources Mentioned:❤️ Boone, NC Small Business Relief Fund – Donate here: boonechamber.com/foundation🏢 Appalachian Commercial Real Estate – AppalachianCRE.com🤖 Superpowers HQ – Get a CRE executive assistant: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/cs🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeakingAll Disc, No Balls! — Tizbee, The Secret Game For Champions — tizbee.com💡 Massimo Group – World-class coaching for CRE brokers: massimo-group.com🛠️ Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: stdb.com

Ever wondered how to make the leap from real estate broker to developer? In this episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy Barron sit down with Blake Richey, CCIM, a former broker turned multifamily developer, to discuss what it takes to build, fund, and scale a development business.Blake shares the exact steps he took to transition from closing deals for clients to building his own multimillion-dollar properties. From his first investment in a self-storage facility to raising capital for 200+ unit apartment complexes, this episode is packed with practical insights for brokers, investors, and aspiring developers.🔑 Key Takeaways:How Blake landed his first development deal (without having millions in the bank)What it really takes to go from brokerage to developmentHow to structure deals, raise capital, and secure financingThe biggest mistakes first-time developers make (and how to avoid them)Why multifamily housing is still one of the best investments in today’s market📍 Plus: Timmy gets a crash course in development, Bo drops some CCIM wisdom, and the guys discuss the power of relationships in CRE (and how one conversation can change your career).🎧 Listen now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or YouTube!🏗️ Blake Ritchie’s Development Firm – TSPKY.com📊 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/cs🛠️ Site to Do Business (STDB) – The secret weapon for site selection and market analysis - stdb.com🤖 Superpowers HQ – Need a CRE executive assistant? Get one here: superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeakingAll Disc, No Balls! — Tizbee, The Secret Game For Champions — tizbee.com💡 Massimo Group – World-class coaching for CRE brokers: massimo-group.com🛠️ Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: stdb.com⏰Time Code⏰00:00:00 - Start00:04:15 - Grew Up On A Farm00:04:49 - Real Estate Appraiser to Residential Agent00:05:28 - Brokerage to Development00:06:57 - How Does Someone Become A Developer?00:09:25 - We Didn’t Know What We Were Doing00:10:12 - How Bo Bought His First Property00:11:28 - If The Deal Is Good Enough The Money Will Show Up00:12:23 - Developer Vs Construction Company00:14:20 - Speed, Quality or Price. You can only pick 200:16:17 - The 4 Feasibility Tests00:17:45 - The Type Of Sites I Like00:20:19 - What a Civil Engineer Does00:25:39 - Entrepreneurs vs Bureaucrat00:28:54 - What Are Some Mistakes Learned That You Will Never Make Again?00:32:04 - Why Multi-Family?00:33:23 - What Happens After Receiving The Certificate of Occupancy?00:35:49 - Develop to Sell00:37:14 - Any Aspirations To Develop Other Asset Classes?00:38:08 - How Do You Lease It Up?00:40:01 - How Do You Structure A Development Deal?00:46:10 - I Never Thought I Could Get $12M For A Deal00:48:45 - How Do You Get The Money For The 1st Deal?00:53:33 - Pop Quiz01:00:05 - The Value Of CCIM Education🔗 Resources Mentioned:

Most CRE brokers follow the big-firm playbook. Sam McVay doesn’t. As the co-founder of McVay Real Estate, Sam has transacted over $14 billion in deals across hospitality, office, retail, and alternative assets. But instead of chasing volume, he’s built a boutique firm that prioritizes relationships over transactions, quality over quantity, and integrity over conflicts of interest.In this episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy Barron sit down with Sam to talk about:✅ Why big brokerage firms prioritize their bottom line over yours✅ The hidden conflicts of interest in traditional CRE firms✅ Why Sam believes face-to-face deals will always outperform digital deals✅ The cutting-edge AI tools he’s using to streamline transactions✅ What global investors are buying in Australia, Asia, and the U.S. right now📍 Plus: Sam shares his wild journey from New York to London to Sydney, explains how he built a CRE powerhouse with just 8 brokers, and even gets a crash course in Timmy’s new sport, Tizbee.🎧 Listen now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube!🔗 Resources Mentioned:📊 McVay Real Estate – mcvayrealestate.com🏨 CRE Marketing Mastermind – wesgay.com/cs🎾 Tizbee: All Disc, No Balls! – Tizbee.com🧠 SuperpowersHQ – Get an EA who understands CRE superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking💡 Massimo Group – World-class coaching for CRE brokers: massimo-group.com🛠️ Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: stdb.com⏰Time Code⏰00:00 - Start03:01 - All Disc, No Balls04:46 - Meeting Sam McVay06:38 - How Did Your CRE Journey Unfold?09:34 - 10% Commission11:24 - The Fundamental Problem With How Most Agencies Operate15:21 - Conflict of Interest24:11 - Doing Business Face to Face28:22 - The Impact of a Good Dad34:59 - Movie Trailer Listings, VR Tours, and Leather Bound Materials40:16 - Using Ai For Accuracy and Efficiency45:22 - Key Differences Between Australia, US and New Zealand Markets52:37 - Trump Requires Federal Employees Back To Office55:33 - More Than Face To Face🎉SIGNUP FOR THE WEEKLY NEWSLETTER FOR CURATED CONTENT ON COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE TRENDS, THRIVING IN BUSINESS AND MORE: https://subscribe.wgbarron.com/?utm_source=newsletter_shareSUBSCRIBE and LISTEN to Commercially Speaking Here:Youtube: www.youtube.com/@CommerciallySpeaking Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/commercially-speaking/id1680750330Spotify: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/commerciallyspeakingAmazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ad036303-414c-4e30-9e89-768d30ed3ffb/commercially-speaking----📲 Connect with us:Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@commerciallyspeaking Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/commerciallyspeaking/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/commerciallyspeakingTiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@commerciallyspeaking Newsletter: https://subscribe.wgbarron.com/?utm_source=newsletter_share----Bo is a CCIM Instructor and the owner and operator of Barron Commercial Group servicing Western KY and it's surrounding markets. For all CRE inquiries visit http://www.barroncommercial.comTimmy is an actor, comedian, writer and host: @timmybarron https://youtu.be/ICoIAHSZvgA

In commercial real estate, Net Operating Income (NOI) is everything—but too many investors get it wrong. In this episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy Barron deliver a NOI masterclass, breaking down how to calculate it, why it matters, and how to avoid common mistakes that could cost you so many thousands.You’ll learn not only how to find NOI but how to use it to:✅ Value properties with confidence using the NOI-to-cap rate formula✅ Spot opportunities in underperforming assets with low NOI✅ Win deals faster by presenting NOI-backed proposals to lenders✅ Measure performance and maximize returns over time📊 Plus: Timmy gets a pop quiz (and passes!), and the brothers share a real-world case study of using NOI to price a duplex portfolio.🎧 Get this essential CRE knowledge—listen now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or YouTube!📘 Resources Mentioned: 🎓 CRE Marketing Mastermind with Wes Gay – Join the waitlist: wesgay.com/cs 🥏Tizbee: All Disc, No Balls! - (www.tizbee.com) 🛠️ CCIM Learning Resources – Master CRE fundamentals 🧠 SuperpowersHQ – Get an EA who understands CRE (superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking) 💡 Massimo Group – World-class coaching for CRE brokers: massimo-group.com 🛠️ Site to Do Business (STDB) – Powerful CRE analysis and mapping tools: stdb.com 📊 APOD Worksheet (Annual Property Operating Data) – The key tool for calculating NOI00:00:00 - Start00:01:51 - Happy Birthday, Bo!00:03:33 - Tizbee.com00:05:21 - wesgay.com/CS00:09:59 - Shoutout to McNeill Stout for Today’s Topic00:13:26 - Net Operating Income (NOI) & 7 Reasons Why It’s Important00:15:07 - 1. Profitability Indicator00:16:12 - 2. Evaluation Tool00:20:24 - 3. Investment Decision Making00:22:37 - 4. Financing Opportunities00:24:08 - Debt Service Coverage Ratio (DSCR)00:26:21 - 5. Performance Measurement00:27:27 - 6. Cap Rate Calculation00:27:45 - 7. Cash Flow Estimation00:29:26 - APOD - NOI Formula Break Down00:30:29 - Line 1: Potential Rental Income (PRI)00:31:01 - Line 2: Less Vacancy and CR Loses00:32:41 - Line 3: Effective Rental Income00:33:18 - Line 4: Other Income00:37:02 - Line 5: Gross Operating Income00:37:40 - Line 6+: Breaking Down The Operating Expenses00:44:15 - Operating Expense Vs Capital Expense00:46:21 - Line 30: NET OPERATING INCOME (NOI)00:46:54 - Common Mistakes: 1. Expense Capital Expenditures00:47:17 - Mistake 2. “Below The Line” Expenditures00:48:02 - Mistake 3: Leasing Commissions00:48:36 - 4. Reserve Fund00:51:57 - Pop Quiz00:57:24 - Figuring Out How Much $ You Can Take Home To Mama.01:01:36 - When Sellers Double The NOI01:06:08 - SuperpowersHQ.com/commerciallyspeaking📒Show Notes📒🎉SIGNUP FOR THE WEEKLY NEWSLETTER FOR CURATED CONTENT ON COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE TRENDS, THRIVING IN BUSINESS AND MORE: https://subscribe.wgbarron.com/?utm_source=newsletter_shareSUBSCRIBE and LISTEN to Commercially Speaking Here:Youtube: www.youtube.com/@CommerciallySpeaking Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/commercially-speaking/id1680750330Spotify: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/commerciallyspeakingAmazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ad036303-414c-4e30-9e89-768d30ed3ffb/commercially-speaking----📲 Connect with us:Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@commerciallyspeaking Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/commerciallyspeaking/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/commerciallyspeakingTiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@commerciallyspeaking Newsletter: https://subscribe.wgbarron.com/?utm_source=newsletter_share----Bo is a CCIM Instructor and the owner and operator of Barron Commercial Group servicing Western KY and it's surrounding markets. For all CRE inquiries visit http://www.barroncommercial.comTimmy is an actor, comedian, writer and host: @timmybarron https://youtu.be/ICoIAHSZvgA

Breaking into commercial real estate isn’t easy—especially if you have zero connections. But@RaphaelCollazo did just that, leveraging content creation, networking, and personal branding to build a thriving career in CRE.In this episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy Barron sit down with Rafael to discuss his journey from software consultant to commercial real estate expert, the challenges of starting from scratch, and how he launched his own brokerage. Plus, Rafael shares the game-changing strategy that helped him create instant credibility and win business before he even closed his first deal.🔑 Key Takeaways:Why most new brokers fail in their first 2 years & how to avoid itHow Rafael used books, podcasts, and meetups to build authority in CREThe truth about making money in commercial real estate (spoiler: it’s not quick)How to qualify prospects so you don’t waste time on bad dealsThe power of canvassing and real-world networking to land clientsWhy personal branding is more important than ever for brokers & investors🎧 Listen now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube!🔗 Resources Mentioned:📚 Millennial Playbook Series by Rafael Collazo:https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B076P3D7CP🎙️ Commercial Real Estate 101 Podcast:https://open.spotify.com/show/7nBAnFfe0IUJEQ0WpzNlrz?si=695dd9a06ffa4c60🏢 Summit Commercial Group:https://sumcg.com/GET YOUR VIRTUAL EA TOADY:https://www.superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeakingThe Massimo Group: SIGNIFICANTLY AND CONSISTENTLY HIGHER COMMISSIONS ARE WITHIN YOUR REACH:https://www.massimo-group.comSite To Do Business: BUILT TO DELIVER COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE INSIGHT:https://www.stdb.com/OUR NEWSLETTER:https://subscribe.wgbarron.com/?utm_source=newsletter_share⏰Time Code⏰00:00:00 - Start00:02:07 - Intro00:06:00 - Born in Italy00:07:06 - Pasta Pasta Pasta00:09:04 - From Tupperware to Software00:09:46 - So They Just Dropped You In Louisville?00:10:02 - Began writing books to scratch the entrepreneurial itch00:11:19 - Real Estate Meetup00:12:56 - Breaking Into The Close Guarded CRE Industry00:15:42 - Imposter Syndrome00:16:59 - Expectation vs Reality of a CRE Broker00:19:42 - Why Does It Take That Long To Start Making That CRE Money?00:21:39 - Where do you Get The Deal Flow?00:23:36 - Dig The Well Before You’re Thirsty00:24:59 - Learning Curve of Vetting People00:29:02 - The Boy Who Cried Listing00:30:34 - Find the People Who NEED to sell not WANT to Sell.00:32:01 - Canvassing00:33:46 - Consider Who You’re Talking to00:35:10 - Own Who You Are.00:36:11 - What kind of investing have you done since being in the industry?00:38:40 - Saving time with ChapGPT00:39:40 - The Difference In Mindset Of Brokering vs Investing In A Deal00:41:14 - Buying A Property Step by Step00:44:51 - What is a Phase 1 and Why Bo Thinks You should Always Get One.00:49:04 - How Often Should You Do The Phase 2 If it’s called for?00:52:56 - Breaking Down The $40k Soft Cost00:56:58 - Explaining to Timmy What a Joint Venture Structure is00:58:44 - How To Open Up Your Own Brokerage Company01:03:06 - Starting A CRE Podcast (Commercial Real Estate 101)01:07:28 - Generating Deals On LinkedIN📒Show Notes📒🎉SIGNUP FOR THE WEEKLY NEWSLETTER FOR CURATED CONTENT ON COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE TRENDS, THRIVING IN BUSINESS AND MORE:https://subscribe.wgbarron.com/?utm_source=newsletter_shareBo is a CCIM Instructor and the owner and operator of Barron Commercial Group servicing Western KY and it's surrounding markets.For all CRE inquiries visithttp://www.barroncommercial.comTimmy is an actor, comedian, writer and host: @timmybarronhttps://youtu.be/ICoIAHSZvgASUBSCRIBE and LISTEN to Commercially Speaking Here:Youtube:www.youtube.com/@CommerciallySpeakingApple:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/commercially-speaking/id1680750330Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/commerciallyspeaking/Tiktok:https://www.tiktok.com/@commerciallyspeaking

AI is evolving faster than ever, and if you’re not keeping up, you’re falling behind. In this episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy Barron welcome back AI in CRE expert Michael Hironimus, CCIM, to discuss the game-changing Agenic AI revolution and how it's already transforming commercial real estate. From AI-powered market analysis to fully automated assistants that can schedule calls, scrape data, and even negotiate deals, this episode is packed with insights on how to leverage AI instead of being replaced by it. Key Takeaways: What Agenic AI is and how it’s changing the way we work The future of AI assistants that complete tasks without your input How AI can scrape market data, analyze investments, and manage workflows The ethical concerns of AI agents posing as real people How to start using AI TODAY to gain an edge in commercial real estate 🎧 Don’t get left behind! Listen now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or YouTube! Resources Mentioned: Michael’s AI Course: Implementing AI in CRE (Use code CSPod for 10% off!) Follow Michael on X: @Mike_Hironimus GET YOUR VIRTUAL EA TOADY: https://**www.superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking The Massimo Group: SIGNIFICANTLY AND CONSISTENTLY HIGHER COMMISSIONS ARE WITHIN YOUR REACH: https://www.massimo-group.com Site To Do Business: BUILT TO DELIVER COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE INSIGHT: https://www.stdb.com/ OUR NEWSLETTER : https://subscribe.wgbarron.com/?utm_source=newsletter_share 02:19 Introduction to AI in Commercial Real Estate 05:30 Exploring AI Tools for Real Estate 08:23 Practical Applications of Notebook LM 11:18 Interactive Features of AI Tools 14:19 The Slow Adoption of AI in Real Estate 17:22 Teasing New Developments in AI 20:23 Using AI for Market Research 23:24 Creative Uses of AI in Real Estate 26:23 The Importance of Input Quality in AI Outputs 29:07 Exploring AI Image Generation Tools 30:16 The Rise of Agenic AI 31:06 Understanding Agenic AI and Its Applications 36:20 The Future of AI in Real Estate 41:06 Ethical Implications of AI Agents 48:21 Trusting AI: The Human Element 54:27 The Value of Human Connection in an AI World 57:58 The Future of Medical Technology 59:20 Exploring Google Gemini for Market Research 01:05:20 Real-Time AI Interaction and Data Extraction 01:10:24 AI in Commercial Real Estate: Courses and Resources 📒Show Notes📒 🎉SIGNUP FOR THE WEEKLY NEWSLETTER FOR CURATED CONTENT ON COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE TRENDS, THRIVING IN BUSINESS AND MORE: https://subscribe.wgbarron.com/?utm_source=newsletter_share SUBSCRIBE and LISTEN to Commercially Speaking Here: Youtube: www.youtube.com/@CommerciallySpeaking Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/commercially-speaking/id1680750330 Spotify: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/commerciallyspeaking Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ad036303-414c-4e30-9e89-768d30ed3ffb/commercially-speaking 📲 Connect with us: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@commerciallyspeaking Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/commerciallyspeaking/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/commerciallyspeaking Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@commerciallyspeaking Newsletter: https://subscribe.wgbarron.com/?utm_source=newsletter_share Bo is a CCIM Instructor and the owner and operator of Barron Commercial Group servicing Western KY and it's surrounding markets. For all CRE inquiries visit http://www.barroncommercial.com Timmy is an actor, comedian, writer and host: @timmybarron https://youtu.be/ICoIAHSZvgA

Ready to break barriers and succeed in commercial real estate? In this inspiring episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy Barron sit down with Renè Nelson, CCIM, to explore her journey from mortgage lending to becoming a multifamily specialist and commercial real estate trailblazer. Renè shares her insights on mastering the multifamily market, empowering women to step into CRE, and setting bold goals (like her famous bingo card goals for 2025). Whether you’re an aspiring investor, broker, or looking to shake up your career, this episode is packed with actionable advice and laughter. Key Takeaways: The challenges and opportunities for women in commercial real estate How to transition from residential to commercial brokerage The importance of CCIM education for real estate professionals Bold ways to set and achieve personal and professional goals 🎧 Don’t miss this candid and inspiring episode! Listen now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or YouTube. Resources Mentioned: Eliminate The Suck with an Executive Assistant: https://superpowershq.com/ Renè’s Book: They’re Gone: The Survivor’s Guide to Real Estate https://www.amazon.com/Theyre-Gone-Survivors-Protect-Estate-ebook/dp/B01EKF9BNC Learn about CCIM: ccim.com Connect with Renee: 1031guru.com 00:00:00 - Start 00:05:31 - Lender for 20 Years 00:08:35 - $1,000,000 Club 00:11:18 - Family first 00:12:54 - Jazzercise or Dog Walker 00:14:11 - Empowering Women 00:16:19 - If you’re a Residential Agent there is a path to Commercial (Learn it to Earn it) 00:19:56 - CCIM Scholarships 00:22:51 - I did not want to be “Bob’s Wife” 00:25:00 - Executive Assistant or Easy Access? Superpowerhq.com/commerciallyspeaking 00:32:12 - 2025 Bingo Card 00:35:46 - Fail 5 Times A Month 00:38:27 - Get In A Bar Fight 00:41:05 - Day Drink In A Kiddie Pool/ Fire A Client 00:43:11 - 2 Simple Things to Slow Down The Hamster Wheel Of CRE 00:45:59 - Watch A Meteor Shower 00:46:30 - Meditate For 30 Days 00:48:21 - Advice for Investing In Multi-Family 00:54:18 - Timmy Impresses His Dad 00:55:50 - Advice For Women Investors 00:59:09 - Advice For Women Brokers 01:00:50 - Pop Quiz 01:06:39 - A Better Way Of Setting Goals 01:08:41 - Timmy’s Secret Game with Isaac Grant

What if you could invest in commercial real estate without the stress of managing properties or navigating complex markets? In this episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy Barron welcome Brad Ahrens and Rob Powell, partners at Hearthstone Capital, to unveil a revolutionary approach to CRE investing that’s as simple as it is impactful. From the creation of Hearthstone to the launch of their second fund, Brad and Rob share how they’re transforming the investment experience—combining transparency, expert analysis, and social impact to deliver meaningful returns. Key Takeaways: How Hearthstone simplifies CRE investing for high-net-worth individuals The unique mission behind Fund Two: blending profitability with social good Why partnering with top-tier operators is the key to success Insights into current market opportunities and trends 🎧 Discover how you can invest confidently and make a difference! Listen now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or YouTube. Resources Mentioned: Learn more and register as an investor: https://hearthstonecre.com/ Connect as an operator: https://hearthstonecre.com/contact-us/# CRE Investor Coach: https://creinvestorcoach.com/ 10X your time and productivity: https://superpowershq.com/ ⏰Time Code⏰ 00:00 - Start 03:29 - Rob Powell 08:33 - Brad Ahrens 11:19 - Hearthstone Capital 13:44 - A Fund To Make The World A Better Place 16:26 - Fund 1 18:27 - Fund 2 21:06 - Registering As An Investor 23:14 - Our Money Is Where Our Mouth It 25:09 - The Complexities Of Owning CRE 26:55 - Profiling The Ideal Investor 28:49 - The Investors Dilemma 34:04 - Is There Ever A Right Time? 35:39 - Registering Does What? 37:27 - The Fund Managers are Available Anytime 38:01 - Calling All Operators! 39:13 - An Example Of A Great Operator 45:19 - Full Transparency 47:50 - The Balance Of The Group 52:13 - I’ve Never Met Someone Who Did NOT Want To Invest 📒Show Notes📒 🎉SIGNUP FOR THE WEEKLY NEWSLETTER FOR CURATED CONTENT ON COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE TRENDS, THRIVING IN BUSINESS AND MORE: https://subscribe.wgbarron.com/?utm_source=newsletter_share SUBSCRIBE and LISTEN to Commercially Speaking Here: Youtube: www.youtube.com/@CommerciallySpeaking Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/commercially-speaking/id1680750330 Spotify: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/commerciallyspeaking Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ad036303-414c-4e30-9e89-768d30ed3ffb/commercially-speaking 📲 Connect with us: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@commerciallyspeaking Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/commerciallyspeaking/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/commerciallyspeaking Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@commerciallyspeaking Newsletter: https://subscribe.wgbarron.com/?utm_source=newsletter_share Bo is a CCIM Instructor and the owner and operator of Barron Commercial Group servicing Western KY and it's surrounding markets. For all CRE inquiries visit http://www.barroncommercial.com Timmy is an actor, comedian, writer and host: @timmybarron https://youtu.be/ICoIAHSZvgA

How do you turn fearless canvassing into a multi-million-dollar real estate portfolio? In this episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy Barron sit down with Beth Azor, the “Canvassing Queen,” to explore her remarkable journey in commercial real estate. Beth shares her secrets to prospecting success, breaking gender barriers in the CRE industry, and building wealth as an investor. With decades of experience as a leasing agent, property owner, and mentor, Beth delivers invaluable advice for brokers, landlords, and aspiring investors alike. Key Takeaways: How to master canvassing to fill vacancies and increase property value Why women are underrepresented in CRE investing and how to change it Lessons learned from Beth’s first deal and her rise to industry legend The power of networking, resilience, and creativity in real estate 🎧 Listen now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or YouTube for this inspiring conversation with a true CRE trailblazer! Resources Mentioned: Learn more about Beth’s workshops: azoracademy.com Women Investor Wednesdays Podcast: Available Here **GET YOUR VIRTUAL EA TOADY: https://**www.superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking The Massimo Group: SIGNIFICANTLY AND CONSISTENTLY HIGHER COMMISSIONS ARE WITHIN YOUR REACH: https://www.massimo-group.com Site To Do Business: BUILT TO DELIVER COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE INSIGHT: https://www.stdb.com/ OUR NEWSLETTER : https://subscribe.wgbarron.com/?utm_source=newsletter_share 00:00:00 - Start 00:02:59 - Beth Azor, The Canvassing Queen 00:07:07 - Beth’s 1st Deal 00:10:22 - Whatever You Know, Things Can Change 00:11:38 - Read The Documents 00:14:17 - Give It Up For $1,000,000? 00:19:00 - Don’t Say No For The Prospect 00:19:55 - Women Investor Wednesdays 00:22:30 - The REAL Reason Women Don’t Invest 00:24:42 - Other Reasons Women Don’t Invest 00:27:03 - Women’s Real Estate Summit {(https://www.azoracademy.com/) 00:29:39 - What Should The Men Know? 00:35:08 - Using Your Social Capital 00:36:05 - Start Talking About Money! 00:41:50 - Canvassing Secrets 00:44:45 - Never Ask For The Owner! 00:46:30 - Boots On The Ground While Sliding Into The DMs 00:50:43 - Get Straight To The Point 00:54:12 - Can You Teach Fearlessness? 00:58:58 - Let’s Not Gloss Over It Works 01:01:39 - Alex and Mario 01:06:48 - Hijos 01:08:28 - Pop Quiz

LIVE Jan 10, 2025 at 12PM CST: https://youtube.com/live/D7_SSfIRCn8 Join here to call in: https://riverside.fm/studio/timmy-barrons-studio GET YOUR VIRTUAL EA TOADY: (https://www.superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking) The Massimo Group: SIGNIFICANTLY AND CONSISTENTLY HIGHER COMMISSIONS ARE WITHIN YOUR REACH: https://www.massimo-group.com Site To Do Business: BUILT TO DELIVER COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE INSIGHT: https://www.stdb.com/ **OUR NEWSLETTER** : https://subscribe.wgbarron.com/?utm_source=newsletter_share What if you could use artificial intelligence to simplify your workflows, analyze markets faster, and close deals more efficiently? In this exciting episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy Barron are joined by Michael Hieronymus, founder of Duck Ridge Realty, to explore the cutting-edge applications of AI in commercial real estate. From market analysis and investment strategies to automation and CRM tools, Michael breaks down how AI is reshaping the CRE landscape. This episode is packed with actionable insights, expert tips, and real-world examples you can start using today. Key Takeaways: The Rhodes framework for effective AI prompting How tools like Perplexity and Agent.AI outperform traditional search engines Automating CRM workflows to save hours of admin work Using AI for lease abstraction, underwriting, and marketing strategies 🎧 Don’t miss this must-listen episode! Join us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or YouTube. Subscribe for more groundbreaking insights every week. Resources Mentioned: Sign up for Michael’s AI course: ORSci.net (Use code CSPOD for 10% off!) Michael’s YouTube channel: CRE Tech Pulse 📒Show Notes📒 🎉SIGNUP FOR THE WEEKLY NEWSLETTER FOR CURATED CONTENT ON COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE TRENDS, THRIVING IN BUSINESS AND MORE: https://subscribe.wgbarron.com/?utm_source=newsletter_share SUBSCRIBE and LISTEN to Commercially Speaking Here: Youtube: www.youtube.com/@CommerciallySpeaking Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/commercially-speaking/id1680750330 Spotify: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/commerciallyspeaking Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ad036303-414c-4e30-9e89-768d30ed3ffb/commercially-speaking ---- 📲 Connect with us: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@commerciallyspeaking Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/commerciallyspeaking/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/commerciallyspeaking Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@commerciallyspeaking Newsletter: https://subscribe.wgbarron.com/?utm_source=newsletter_share ---- Bo is a CCIM Instructor and the owner and operator of Barron Commercial Group servicing Western KY and it's surrounding markets. For all CRE inquiries visit http://www.barroncommercial.com Timmy is an actor, comedian, writer and host: @timmybarron https://youtu.be/ICoIAHSZvgA

**GET YOUR VIRTUAL EA TOADY: https://**www.superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking The Massimo Group: SIGNIFICANTLY AND CONSISTENTLY HIGHER COMMISSIONS ARE WITHIN YOUR REACH: https://www.massimo-group.com Site To Do Business: BUILT TO DELIVER COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE INSIGHT: https://www.stdb.com/ OUR NEWSLETTER : https://subscribe.wgbarron.com/?utm_source=newsletter_share Thinking about selling an investment property but worried about hefty taxes? In this episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy Barron are joined by 1031 Exchange expert James Bean to demystify one of the most powerful tools in commercial real estate. James breaks down the essentials of 1031 tax-deferred exchanges, how they work, and why they’re a game-changer for real estate investors looking to defer taxes and grow their wealth. From key rules to common myths, this episode is packed with insights to help you make smarter investment decisions. Key Takeaways: The 5 essential rules of a successful 1031 Exchange How to identify properties within the 45-day timeline The difference between like-kind exchanges and other strategies Creative ways to build multi-generational wealth using 1031s 🎧 Don’t miss this deep dive into a cornerstone of real estate investing! Listen now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or YouTube. Resources Mentioned in the Episode: Jame’s YouTube Channel: Best 1031 Online Jame’s website: https://www.best1031online.com Jame’s Phone (805)-779-1031 RSVP to our LIVE Ai Episode with Michael Hironimus via youtube: https://www.youtube.com/live/D7_SSfIRCn8 The link to call in during the LIVE Ai Episode: https://riverside.fm/studio/timmy-barrons-studio?t=760b365c65f49c6b8ba8 00:00:00 - Start 00:04:36 - Welcome! 00:13:35 - Becoming an expert in 1031 Tax Deferred Exchanges? 00:15:23 - The Net Lease World 00:19:11 - 1031 Information Gap 00:21:18 - 1031 101 00:22:44 - The 3 Identification Rules 00:27:41 - 5 Main Rules of the 1031 00:28:28 - 1. Equal To or Greater Than 00:29:32 - 2. You must use a QI (Accommodator) 00:34:27 - 3. Like Kind 00:37:21 - 4. 45 Days to Identify 00:38:34 - 5. 180 Days To Close 00:40:01 - Here’s How Powerful a 1031 is! (Let’s Do The Math) 00:44:04 - Multigenerational Wealth with a 1031 00:54:09 - For The Brokers Listening 00:57:25 - Do it Right Or Pay The Price 00:59:37 - Timmy’s Duke Joke 01:01:52 - 1031 Fails 01:04:49 - Identifying A Property 01:06:37 - Replacing Debt 01:10:28 - 1031 and Tax Season 01:12:43 - Never Assume Your Broker, Attorney or CPA Understands 1031 01:17:06 - How To Connect With 1031 Broker James 01:18:47 - Pop Quiz 01:25:59 - 1031 Broker James presents Bo-isms 01:27:28 - Listener Shoutouts 📒Show Notes📒 🎉SIGNUP FOR THE WEEKLY NEWSLETTER FOR CURATED CONTENT ON COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE TRENDS, THRIVING IN BUSINESS AND MORE: https://subscribe.wgbarron.com/?utm_source=newsletter_share SUBSCRIBE and LISTEN to Commercially Speaking Here: Youtube: www.youtube.com/@CommerciallySpeaking Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/commercially-speaking/id1680750330 Spotify: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/commerciallyspeaking Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ad036303-414c-4e30-9e89-768d30ed3ffb/commercially-speaking 📲 Connect with us: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@commerciallyspeaking Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/commerciallyspeaking/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/commerciallyspeaking Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@commerciallyspeaking Newsletter: https://subscribe.wgbarron.com/?utm_source=newsletter_share Bo is a CCIM Instructor and the owner and operator of Barron Commercial Group servicing Western KY and it's surrounding markets. For all CRE inquiries visit http://www.barroncommercial.com Timmy is an actor, comedian, writer and host: @timmybarron https://youtu.be/ICoIAHSZvgA