Dancing With Wisdom

In this episode I sit down with Ken Wright for a warm, story-filled conversation about faith, leadership, and a career that took him from a working-class upbringing in Liverpool to the boardroom of Royal Mail.Ken shares how his mother's unexpected conversion at a Billy Graham event in 1966 planted a seed he initially dismissed—until a strange encounter with a spoof book on UFOs set him on a personal mission to disprove Christianity altogether. What followed was months of investigating the resurrection for himself, and a decision, as a university student, to give his life to Christ.Together, we explore how that decision led Ken into "the Upper Room"—a Liverpool youth revival that began as a two-week outreach and became a decade-long movement, drawing hundreds of teenagers, many from broken and abused backgrounds, into a transformed faith. We also trace his remarkable career: turning down promotions, swapping jobs against his boss's warnings, and rising—without ever applying—to become Chief Operating Officer of Royal Mail, all while keeping church and family as his first priority.In this episode, we discuss:•⁠ ⁠How a skeptical teenager's private mission to disprove Christianity led him to faith•⁠ ⁠The story of "the Upper Room" and a revival among Liverpool's most overlooked young people•⁠ ⁠Leading without hierarchy—and why servanthood, not status, defines real leadership•⁠ ⁠Choosing family and church over career advancement, even when it made no sense•⁠ ⁠Steering Royal Mail through a national strike and a record-breaking 25-hour negotiation•⁠ ⁠What it looks like to seek first the Kingdom of God in ordinary working lifeWe also reflect on the Upper Room's 40-year reunion—some who'd walked away from faith, others who became vicars and missionaries—and why the seeds planted decades ago are still bearing fruit today.Let me know your thoughts in the comments—where in your own life can you see God quietly preparing you for what's next?#DancingWithWisdom #KenWright #RoyalMail #ChristianLeadership #Faith #ServantLeadership #Revival

In this final conversation I sit down with Terry Virgo for a deeply honest and hope-filled discussion about revival, faith, and the future of the Church.After nearly 70 years of following Jesus, Terry shares wisdom from a lifetime of prayer, leadership, and longing to see God move in extraordinary ways. Together, we explore what it means to live with spiritual hunger, stand firm in truth, and remain expectant—even in a rapidly changing world.In this episode, we discuss:• What true revival really is (and isn’t)• Why prayer is more than a “shopping list”• The role of faith, hunger, and persistence• Encouragement for young leaders navigating today’s challenges• Staying grounded in biblical truth amid cultural pressure• Living with hope—both for revival and the return of JesusWe also reflect on signs of God moving around the world today, and why now may be a time to lean in—not pull back.This conversation is a call to pray boldly, believe deeply, and expect more from God.Let me know your thoughts in the comments—how can we live with greater expectation of what God will do in our lives and our increasingly unstable world?#DancingWithWisdom #TerryVirgo #Revival #Faith #Prayer #ChristianLeadership #SpiritualHunger