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Engelberg Center Live!
by Engelberg Center on Innovation Law & Policy
This season of Engelberg Center Live! contains audio from Engelberg Center events.Previous seasons of Engelberg Center Live! included a history of ebooks from Library Futures, a deep dive into the datasets used to train AI with Knowing Machines, an oral history of the unionization effort at Kickstarter, and (of course) audio from a range of Engelberg Center events. To learn more about the Engelberg Center, please visit https://www.nyuengelberg.org/
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Digital Culture of Metropolitan New York: Kaitlin Thaney
This episode is audio from METRO's Digital Culture of Metropolitan New York community event, featuring a presentation by Kaitlin Thaney, Executive Director, Invest in Open Infrastructure. It was recorded on April 8, 2026.
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Digital Culture of Metropolitan New York: Tara Hart
This episode is audio from METRO's Digital Culture of Metropolitan New York community event, featuring a presentation by Tara Hart, Head Archivist of the Whitney Museum of American Art. It was recorded on April 8, 2026.
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Digital Culture of Metropolitan New York: Rob Christiansen
This episode is audio from METRO's Digital Culture of Metropolitan New York community event, featuring a presentation by Rob Christiansen, Director of Broadcast Applications, New York Public Radio. It was recorded on April 8, 2026.
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Digital Culture of Metropolitan New York: Henry Felix Raine
This episode is audio from METRO's Digital Culture of Metropolitan New York community event, featuring a presentation by Henry Felix Raine, Director of the Library Digital Program at the New York Historical. It was recorded on April 8, 2026.
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Book Event: Move Slow and Upgrade
This episode is audio from the book launch for Move Slow and Upgrade, featuring co-author Albert Fox Cahn in conversation with Washington Post technology reporter Shira Ovide. It was recorded on March 4, 2026.
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Conspicuous Consumers: Keynote of Nancy Mahon
This episode is audio from Nancy Mahon's keynote address to the Engelberg Center's Conspicuous Consumers Symposium. It was recorded on October 16 , 2025.
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Conspicuous Consumers: What’s Special About Consumers When It Comes to Competition?
Daniel Francis, NYU School of LawDoha Mekki, UC Berkeley LawEric Posner, University of Chicago Law SchoolScott Hemphill, Engelberg Center on Innovation Law & Policy, NYU School of Law (moderator)
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Conspicuous Consumers: How Do We Understand the Consumer When We Assess the Prospect of Competition in Fair Use?
Erich Andersen, Engelberg Center on Innovation Law & Policy, NYU School of LawKristelia García, Georgetown LawKatrina Geddes, Ohio State University Moritz College of LawGuy Rub, Temple University Beasley School of LawChris Sprigman, Engelberg Center on Innovation Law & Policy, NYU School of Law
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Conspicuous Consumers: Keynote of Lisa Bonner
Lisa Bonner, Esq. Bonner Law, A Professional Corporation
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Conspicuous Consumers: How AI Impacts Consumption
Mala Chatterjee, Columbia Law SchoolDeven Desai, Georgia Tech Scheller College of BusinessAaron Perzanowski, University of Michigan Law SchoolJason Schultz, Engelberg Center on Innovation Law & Policy, NYU School of Law (moderator)
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Conspicuous Consumers: IP Rights as a Signal to Consumers
Chris Cotropia, George Washington University Law SchoolMark McKenna, UCLA School of LawJacob Noti-Victor, Cardozo LawRebecca Tushnet, Harvard Law SchoolJeanne Fromer, Engelberg Center on Innovation Law & Policy, NYU School of Law (moderator)
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Conspicuous Consumers: The Consumer Scientist
Charles Duan, American University Washington College of LawHilary Koch, Advocate for people living with diabetesFran Visco, National Breast Cancer CoalitionSteve Woloshin, Dartmouth Geisel School of MedicineChris Morten, Engelberg Center on Innovation Law & Policy, NYU School of Law (moderator)
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Conspicuous Consumers: Sustainability in the Eye of the Beholder
Maggie Chon, Seattle University School of LawAaron Perzanowski, University of Michigan Law SchoolJessica Silbey, Boston University School of LawAnna Tischner, Jagiellonian University in KrakowRochelle Dreyfuss, Engelberg Center on Innovation Law & Policy, NYU School of Law (moderator)
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Fixing a Broken System: The Path to Public Pharma in New York
Public pharma is an alternative to our current profit-driven pharmaceutical system. Public pharma uses the public sector to research, develop, manufacture, and distribute drugs.“Fixing a Broken System: The Path to Public Pharma in New York” is a critical discussion that will illuminate the transformative potential of publicly owned, manufactured, and distributed pharmaceuticals as we confront an industry that has prioritized profits over patients for too long, leaving patients without access to the medications they need to survive.The discussion was organized by T1International, the NY #insulin4all Chapter, NYU Law’s Science, Health, and Information Clinic, and The Health and Political Economy Project of the New School's Institute on Race, Power, and Political Economy, and hosted by the Engelberg Center on Innovation Law & Policy. Speakers included New York State Assemblymember Jenifer Rajkumar, former New York City Health Commissioner Dave Chokshi, and Yale School of Medicine Professor Kasia Lipska.More information: https://www.nyuengelberg.org/events/fixing-a-broken-system-the-path-to-public-pharma-in-new-york/
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Bad Landlords And The Movement To Take Back Our Rights
TimelineHow Much Does Obama's Summer Reading List Cost Your Library?E-Books for UsDPLA Introduces E-Books Libraries Can OwnBRIETReaders First, an organization “dedicated to ensuring access to free and easy-to-use eBook content”For more on how publishers have tried to control library access to information, see The Publisher Play Book: A TimelineRobin HastingsReferences
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Ebooks, Meet Libraries; Libraries, Meet Ebooks
TimelineWhy DRM Doesn’t Work, or How to Download an Audiobook from the Cleveland Public LibraryEreaders, Overdrive Compatibility, Libraries as Digital Ghost Towns by Rochelle HartmanRobin HastingsMichael BlackwellReferences
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So What Is An Ebook, Anyway?
TimelineOverlooked No More: Ángela Ruiz Robles, Inventor of an Early E-Reader - The New York TimesDorothea SaloReferences
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Trailer: Introducing A Podcast About Ebooks from Library Futures
TimelineHow to Destroy the Book, by Cory Doctorow – The Varsity
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Public Domain Cabaret: WNYC Public Song Project Players & Necromancers of the Public Domain
The Engelberg Center on Innovation Law & Policy, Library Futures, Theater of the Apes, and the Information Law Institute bring you this very special Public Domain Day presentation of Necromancers of the Public Domain.Performers skilled in the art of necromancy transformed the book An Hour With The Movies And The Talkies (plucked from the shelves of the New York Society Library's public domain class of 2025) into a one-night-only variety show. We also featured performers from WNYC's Public Song Project.WNYC Public Song Project Players include:Nikhil DasguptaHammer CountyKat LewisSibyl (Chloe and Lily Holgate)Kal TeauxNecromancers include:Emilio Cuesta (I Am Nobody / QUESTA)Jordan FeitConnor Kalista (The Neo-Futurists / Independent Film Editor)Pearl RheinNecromancers lead by Ayun Halliday (Creative, Not Famous / The East Village Inky)With Special Guest:Saw Lady a.k.a. Natalia ParuzEvent photos: https://www.nyuengelberg.org/events/public-domain-celebration-with-necromancers-and-friends/
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Health Care at Reasonable Cost: What’s Next?
Donald Beers, Office of Chief Counsel of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) (retired)Alfred B. EngelbergAbbe Gluck, Yale Law SchoolArti Rai, Duke University School of LawAmeet Sarpatwari, Harvard Medical SchoolMichael Weinberg, Engelberg Center on Innovation Law & Policy, NYU School of Law (moderator)
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Health Care at Reasonable Cost: March-in Rights and § 1498
David J. Kappos, Cravath, Swaine, & Moore LLPAaron Kesselheim, Brigham and Women’s Hospital/Harvard Medical SchoolRochelle Dreyfuss, Engelberg Center on Innovation Law & Policy, NYU School of Law (moderator)
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Health Care at Reasonable Cost: Drug Price Negotiations
Richard Epstein, NYU School of LawErika Lietzan, University of Missouri School of LawLisa Larrimore Ouellette, Stanford Law SchoolSteve Pearson, Institute for Clinical and Economic Review (ICER)Rachel Sachs, Washington University in St. Louis School of LawDaniel Hemel, NYU School of Law (moderator)
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Health Care at Reasonable Cost: The Neglected Hatch-Waxman Act Goal of Data Transparency
Rebecca Eisenberg, The University of Michigan Law SchoolRichard F. Kingham, Covington & Burling LLPReshma Ramachandran, Yale School of MedicineChris Morten, Columbia Law School (moderator)
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Health Care at Reasonable Cost: Protecting the Hatch-Waxman Act from Anticompetitive Gaming
Anisha Dasgupta, Federal Trade CommissionHenry Hadad, Bristol-Myers SquibbSteve Shadowen, Hilliard Shadowen LLPEric Stock, Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLPScott Hemphill, Engelberg Center on Innovation Law & Policy, NYU School of Law (moderator)
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Health Care at Reasonable Cost: Commissioner Slaughter Fireside Chat
Commissioner Rebecca Kelly Slaughter, Federal Trade CommissionDaniel Francis, NYU School of Law
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Health Care at Reasonable Cost: Extending the Hatch-Waxman Act Model
Michael Frakes, Duke University School of LawEmily Marden, Sidley Austin LLPNicholson Price, The University of Michigan Law SchoolS. Sean Tu, West Virginia University College of LawMelissa Wasserman, The University of Texas School of LawBruce Wexler, Paul Hastings LLP (moderator)
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Health Care at Reasonable Cost: An Empirical Evaluation of the Hatch-Waxman Act
Scott Hemphill, Engelberg Center on Innovation Law & Policy, NYU School of LawBhaven Sampat, Arizona State UniversityMargaret K. Kyle, MINES ParisTech (Ecole des Mines) (commentator)
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Health Care at Reasonable Cost: The Goals of the Hatch-Waxman Act as Seen from 2024
Bob Armitage, Intellectual Property ConsultantAlfred B. EngelbergKatherine Strandburg, Engelberg Center on Innovation Law & Policy, NYU School of Law (moderator)
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FUNTIME BOOK PARTY: Feminist Cyberlaw
Feminist Cyberlaw reimagines the field of cyberlaw through a feminist lens, bringing together emerging and established scholars and practitioners to explore how gender, race, sexuality, disability, class, and the intersections of these identities affect cyberspace and the laws that govern it. It is available as a free, open-access volume.
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Rethinking Patent Prosecution: Solutions and Alternative Paths
Panel Four: Solutions and Alternative PathsMichael Weinberg (moderator), Engelberg Center on Innovation Law & PolicyDave Kappos, Cravath, Swaine & MooreArti Rai, The Center for Innovation Policy - Duke Law SchoolMichael Frakes, Duke Law School & Melissa Wasserman, The University of Texas at Austin School of Law
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Rethinking Patent Prosecution: IPR Today
Panel Three: IPR TodayRochelle Dreyfuss (moderator), NYU School of Law and Engelberg Center on Innovation Law & PolicyGabrielle Higgins, Desmarais LLPScott McKeown, Wolf GreenfieldNaveen Modi, Paul Hastings
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Rethinking Patent Prosecution: Incentives Shaping the Current Prosecution Process
Panel Two: Incentives Shaping the Current Prosecution ProcessBruce Wexler (moderator), Paul Hastings and NYU School of LawBob Stoll, Faegre Drinker Biddle & Reath LLPMark Vallone, IBM
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Rethinking Patent Prosecution: State of Play in District Courts
Panel One: The State of Play in District CourtsJohn Desmarais (moderator), Desmarais LLPJudge Raymond Chen, U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal CircuitNicholas Groombridge, Groombridge, Wu, Baughman & Stone LLPJudge Maryellen Noreika, U.S. District Court for the District of DelawareSaurabh Vishnubhakat, Cardozo Law
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Rethinking Patent Prosecution: Judge Chen Introduction
This episode is audio of Judge Raymond Chen's introductory remarks from the Engelberg Center's Rethinking Patent Prosecution, Review, and Litigation event. It was recorded on March 28, 2024.
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Necromancers of the Public Domain: Broadway Racketeers
Theater of the Apes, Library Futures, and the Engelberg Center on Innovation Law & Policy bring you this very special Public Domain Day presentation of Necromancers of the Public Domain.Performers skilled in the art of necromancy will transform the book Broadway Racketeers (plucked from the shelves of the New York Society Library's public domain class of 2024) into a one-night-only variety show. The necromancers will be joined by music from Miss Maybell and the Jazz Age Artistes and updates on efforts to establish a National Public Domain Day.Necromancers include:Nick Balaban (Hello, Cruel World / Blues Clues)Ellia Bisker & Heather Cole (Charming Disaster / Funkrust Brass Band)Bryce Edwards (The Bryce Edwards Frivolity Hour)Dejen Tesfagiorgis (Deja Deja Comedy)Hosted by Ayun Halliday (Creative, Not Famous / The East Village Inky)
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Exploring the Anti-Ownership Ebook Economy: Copyright Law and Digital Ownership
Michael Weinberg (moderator), New York University School of Law and Engelberg Center on Innovation Law & PolicyMehtab Khan, Yale Law SchoolMichelle Wu, Formerly Georgetown University Law Center
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Exploring the Anti-Ownership Ebook Economy: How Libraries Handle Ebooks
Jennie Rose Halperin (moderator), Library FuturesMicah May, Digital Public Library of AmericaCarmi Parker, Whatcom County Library SystemKathleen Riegelhaupt, New York Public Library
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Exploring the Anti-Ownership Ebook Economy: Publishers Who Sell Ebooks
Claire Woodcock (moderator), Engelberg Center on Innovation Law & PolicyEmily Hamilton, University of Minnesota PressDennis Johnson, Melville HouseClaire Kelley, Seven Stories Press
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Exploring the Anti-Ownership Ebook Economy: Publisher-Platform Data Relationships
Talya Cooper (moderator), New York University LibrariesSam Biddle, The InterceptAnnalee Hickman Pierson, Brigham Young University Law SchoolMelanie Walsh, Information School at the University of Washington
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Exploring the Anti-Ownership Ebook Economy: Economics of Ebook Publisher/Platform Workflows
Michael Weinberg (moderator), New York University School of Law and Engelberg Center on Innovation Law & PolicyGuy LeCharles Gonzalez, Library PassMichael Tamblyn, Rakuten Kobo
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Art vs. AI: The Salon
Music used:The Blue Dot Sessions, “Delicates,” “Gran PKL,” “Sorry Linus"
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Calculating Empires: The Intersection of AI and Art
The Blue Dot Sessions, “Three Stories,” “Lahaina"
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Synthetic Media: AI and Journalism
Music Used:The Blue Dot Sessions, "Angel Tooth,” “Paper Feather"
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A Bird in the Hand is Worth Two in the Dataset
Music Used:The Blue Dot Sessions, “Dirty Wallpaper,” “Valentis,” “Pulse,” “Mill Wyrm,” “Cloud Line,” “Pall Canyon,” “A Common Pause,” “Dialtone 11"Citations:Rachel Carson, "Silent Spring"John Keats, "La Belle Dame sans Merci," read by Michael SheenSiegfried Sassoon, “Everyone Sang,” read by Garrison Keillor
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Dataset Creators: The Architects of AI
The Blue Dot Sessions, “Arizona Moon,” “Color Country"
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Legal Implications in AI: The Case of Clearview
The Blue Dot Sessions, “Copley Beat,” “Plate Glass,” “Flashing Runner,” “Fifteen Street,” “Silver Lanyard,” “Greylock,” “Cornicob,” “Nine Count,” “Tall Journey”
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9 Ways to See a Dataset
The Blue Dot Session, “Greylock," "Lumber Down," "Turning on the Lights," "The Big Ten," "Dance of Felt," "Angel Tooth," "Dear Myrtle," "Children of Lemuel," “Rafter”
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What Lives Inside Our Datasets? An Introduction to Knowing Machines
Music used:The Blue Dot Sessions, “Drone Birch,” “Song at the End of Times,” “Trek VX"
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Knowing Machines: Trailer
Introducing Knowing Machines, a podcast companion to the Knowing Machines project. In this podcast, we're going to look at the data that's used to train artificial intelligence. The building blocks of these systems offer us a powerful way to understand how these systems see the world, how they interpret it, as well as what they don't see, and what they might be getting wrong. So we're here to discuss what that material is and why it matters. The season brings together computer scientists, engineers, social scientists, humanists, and also artists and journalists, a whole range of different interdisciplinary stakeholders in the same room to demystify this moment in artificial intelligence. Episodes will drop weekly. We look forward to have you listen with us.
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Revising the Merger Guidelines: New Guidelines for the New Economy
It features: Harry First (Honoree), New York University School of Law Elinor Hoffmann, Antitrust Bureau, New York State Attorney General Doug Melamed, Stanford Law School and USC Gould School of Law Howard Shelanski, Georgetown University Law Center and Davis Polk & Wardwell Spencer Weber Waller, Loyola University Chicago School of Law Daniel Francis (Moderator), New York University School of Law
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
This season of Engelberg Center Live! contains audio from Engelberg Center events.Previous seasons of Engelberg Center Live! included a history of ebooks from Library Futures, a deep dive into the datasets used to train AI with Knowing Machines, an oral history of the unionization effort at Kickstarter, and (of course) audio from a range of Engelberg Center events. To learn more about the Engelberg Center, please visit https://www.nyuengelberg.org/
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