Everybody Else

Zachary Goebel is the owner and CEO of Marshall Disposal, Inc., a waste hauler based in Poseyville, Indiana that has served the Southwest Indiana region for 26 years. Since stepping into leadership in 2015, Zach has helped guide the company’s growth around the core values: “Respect”, “Integrity”, and “Having a Heart to Serve”. He's led the way in building a family-style team culture that has earned Marshall Disposal recognition as one of the best places to work in Indiana two years in a row. He is also the CEO and co-host of the Life and Leadership Podcast with Jared Totsch, where they focus on organizational culture and leadership growth. Zach and Jared have presented in Evansville, Indianapolis, Lexington, Myrtle Beach, and Connecticut, and in February 2026 hosted the first annual Strengthen Southern Indiana Leadership Conference in Evansville with more than 60 local leaders in attendance.Follow Zach: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zachary-goebel-18a281204/Learn more about Marshall Disposal: https://www.marshalldisposal.com/Listen to the Life and Leadership Podcast:  https://linktr.ee/LifeandleadershipevvRecorded at Wally Opus Studios on April 13, 2026._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast about the invisible people who make life happen. What began as conversations with behind-the-scenes builders in the music industry has grown into a broader exploration of how people think, work, and carry responsibility across industries and across disciplines. Hosted by Wes Luttrell, the show centers on thoughtful dialogue with creatives, leaders, and operators whose work often goes unseen but shapes the world we live in. New episodes streaming every Tuesday.

Joe Atkinson is the Director of Evansville NewsLab, a University of Evansville project working with local media to identify gaps in local journalism and help existing outlets fill them. Before that, he served as Communications Director for Evansville Mayor Stephanie Terry, following years at UE in news, digital media, and communication roles. Alongside his work in journalism, civic communication, and higher education, Joe is also a filmmaker whose documentaries with WNIN have explored Evansville’s World War II history, brewing culture, addiction in the Midwest, and the 1977 UE basketball plane crash.Follow Joe: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-atkinson-a08a87b/Learn more about NewsLab: https://evansvillenewslab.com/Recorded at the University of Evansville on April 7, 2026._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast about the invisible people who make life happen. What began as conversations with behind-the-scenes builders in the music industry has grown into a broader exploration of how people think, work, and carry responsibility across industries and across disciplines. Hosted by Wes Luttrell, the show centers on thoughtful dialogue with creatives, leaders, and operators whose work often goes unseen but shapes the world we live in. New episodes streaming every Tuesday.

Ted O’Connell is the Jacobsville Development Consultant for the Jacobsville Area Community Corporation in Evansville, Indiana. Drawing from a background in sales, recruiting, and startup work, he pairs hands-on neighborhood leadership with thoughtful, data-informed problem solving. In the long-underinvested neighborhood of Jacobsville, that work has contributed to real results, including a 93% reduction in rodent activity and a 53% drop in shots fired. Follow Ted: https://www.linkedin.com/in/siuted/Learn more about Jacobsville: https://www.forjacobsville.org/Recorded at Wally Opus Studios on April 1, 2026._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast about the invisible people who make life happen. What began as conversations with behind-the-scenes builders in the music industry has grown into a broader exploration of how people think, work, and carry responsibility across industries and across disciplines. Hosted by Wes Luttrell, the show centers on thoughtful dialogue with creatives, leaders, and operators whose work often goes unseen but shapes the world we live in. New episodes streaming every Tuesday.

Zack Mathis is the Director of Marketing at Evansville-based, locally-founded Azzip Pizza. He started on day three of the company’s first store opening on the West Side and worked his way up from hand-making pizzas on the front lines to helping shape the flavorful brand now known across the region. Today, Zack helps tell the story of the 13-store pizza company as it expands into new markets while supporting its founders and leaders behind the scenes, including launching Azzip’s first rewards program and helping grow its Pizza of the Month Club. Follow Zack: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zackmathis/Visit Azzip's Website: https://azzippizza.com/Recorded at Wally Opus Studios on March 30, 2026._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast about the invisible people who make life happen. What began as conversations with behind-the-scenes builders in the music industry has grown into a broader exploration of how people think, work, and carry responsibility across industries and across disciplines. Hosted by Wes Luttrell, the show centers on thoughtful dialogue with creatives, leaders, and operators whose work often goes unseen but shapes the world we live in. New episodes streaming every Tuesday.

Julie Antey is the studio manager and a yoga instructor at The Yoga Space in Evansville, Indiana. With 22 years of practice behind her, Julie trained under Jimmy Barkan in 2003 and now teaches in a style that blends hot-yoga roots with a more intuitive, free-flowing approach. Grounded in human anatomy and shaped by the energy of the room, her classes help students move with greater awareness, find steadiness in their bodies, and reconnect with themselves.Follow Julie: https://www.instagram.com/bluejuleyoga/Follow Yoga Space: https://www.instagram.com/evansville.yogaspace/Recorded at Wally Opus Studios on March 19, 2026._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast about the invisible people who make life happen. What began as conversations with behind-the-scenes builders in the music industry has grown into a broader exploration of how people think, work, and carry responsibility across industries and across disciplines. Hosted by Wes Luttrell, the show centers on thoughtful dialogue with creatives, leaders, and operators whose work often goes unseen but shapes the world we live in. New episodes streaming every Tuesday.

Adam Trinkel is the Executive Director of the Downtown Evansville Improvement District, where he helps lead the work of keeping downtown Evansville clean, safe, and vibrant while connecting property owners, city partners, businesses, and the broader community around its continued growth. After earlier roles in nonprofit development and philanthropy at The Arc of Evansville, the University of Southern Indiana, and St. Vincent Evansville Foundation, Adam joined the district in 2018 as its second employee and has grown with the organization through its next chapter of downtown revitalization. Follow: AdamDowntown EvansvilleRecorded at Wally Opus Studios on March 13, 2026._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast about the invisible people who make life happen. What began as conversations with behind-the-scenes builders in the music industry has grown into a broader exploration of how people think, work, and carry responsibility across industries and across disciplines. Hosted by Wes Luttrell, the show centers on thoughtful dialogue with creatives, leaders, and operators whose work often goes unseen but shapes the world we live in. New episodes streaming every Tuesday.

Tait Tenbarge is the founder and head chef of Blue Bird Hot Chicken, a southern Indiana food truck known for its original take on Nashville-style hot chicken. After starting out in restaurants as a teenager and later leading kitchens at Haub’s Steak House and R’z Cafe, Tait built Blue Bird from the ground up, transforming an old school bus into a state-of-the-art food truck with the help of family and friends. In this episode, he shares the story behind the truck, the 31 attempts it took to perfect his hot chicken recipe, and the grit, creativity, and family support that turned Blue Bird into one of the Tri-State’s most talked-about food trucks. Follow the Bird: InstagramFacebookRecorded at Wally Opus Studios on March 9, 2026. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast about the invisible people who make life happen. What began as conversations with behind-the-scenes builders in the music industry has grown into a broader exploration of how people think, work, and carry responsibility across industries and across disciplines. Hosted by Wes Luttrell, the show centers on thoughtful dialogue with creatives, leaders, and operators whose work often goes unseen but shapes the world we live in. New episodes streaming every Tuesday.

Megan Brumley is the Director of Operations at Dauby Real Estate in Evansville, Indiana, where she helps lead the systems, processes, and administrative infrastructure that support the brokerage’s growth and client experience. She joined the company nearly eight years ago during its earlier stage (then under Keller Williams) and played a key role in building and refining transaction management, operational workflows, and back-office systems as Dauby transitioned into an independent brokerage (now powered by PLACE). Prior to Dauby, Megan worked in product management at Berry Global, Inc., supporting cross-functional teams, process execution, and business performance.Recorded at Wally Opus Studios on February 27, 2026._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast about the invisible people who make life happen. What began as conversations with behind-the-scenes builders in the music industry has grown into a broader exploration of how people think, work, and carry responsibility across industries and across disciplines. Hosted by Wes Luttrell, the show centers on thoughtful dialogue with creatives, leaders, and operators whose work often goes unseen but shapes the world we live in. New episodes streaming every Tuesday.

Dr. Austin Maxheimer is an Evansville, Indiana–based author and neighborhood practitioner who leads community revitalization work as Love Your Neighborhood Director at Community One.  He’s written five books on community, leadership, and measurement and brings roughly 15 years of on-the-ground experience helping residents and local organizations build healthier neighborhoods. In his work, Austin emphasizes resident-led change and a simple framework—listen, align, act, measure—grounded in proximity, practical action, and investing directly in neighbors so transformation happens from the inside out.Visit Austin's WebsiteRecorded at Wally Opus Studios on February 23, 2026._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast about the invisible people who make life happen. What began as conversations with behind-the-scenes builders in the music industry has grown into a broader exploration of how people think, work, and carry responsibility across industries and across disciplines. Hosted by Wes Luttrell, the show centers on thoughtful dialogue with creatives, leaders, and operators whose work often goes unseen but shapes the world we live in. New episodes streaming every Tuesday.Follow Wes - LinkedIn

Aidan Williams is the founder of Chosen, a luxury wellness vacation rental and estate management company focused on thoughtful curation, high standards, and long-term stewardship of exceptional properties. A Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo (2018) agriculture graduate, he previously led national quality operations at Mission Produce and later served as Vice President of Sales at Por La Mar Nursery. He founded Driftwood Properties during that period, which evolved into Chosen—built around meticulous operations, transparent partnerships, and strong owner outcomes.Chosen website (currently Driftwood) Recorded virtually on February 20, 2026. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _This episode is supported by Thru-Line Development Company, founded by Wes Luttrell in Evansville, Indiana. Thru-Line works with leaders and organizations at inflection points to collapse chaos and curate clarity by designing the systems, structures, and decision frameworks that align teams with their mission._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast about the invisible people who make life happen. What began as conversations with behind-the-scenes builders in the music industry has grown into a broader exploration of how people think, work, and carry responsibility across industries and across disciplines. Hosted by Wes Luttrell, the show centers on thoughtful dialogue with creatives, leaders, and operators whose work often goes unseen but shapes the world we live in. New episodes streaming every Tuesday.

Paige Venturi is the Vice President of Honey Moon Coffee Co, where she helps lead day-to-day operations across the four locations of the Evansville-born “people company that serves coffee.” An IU grad with a background spanning from journalism to apparel merchandising, Paige joined Honey Moon as a barista in 2020 and now serves as a bright, thoughtful leader in her role supporting managers, tracking performance, improving systems, and overseeing online ordering and brand merch. Recorded on February 16, 2026 at Honey Moon Burkhardt in Evansville, Indiana._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _This episode is supported by Thru-Line Development Company, founded by Wes Luttrell in Evansville, Indiana. Thru-Line works with leaders and organizations at inflection points to collapse chaos and curate clarity by designing the systems, structures, and decision frameworks that align teams with their mission._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast about the invisible people who make life happen. What began as conversations with behind-the-scenes builders in the music industry has grown into a broader exploration of how people think, work, and carry responsibility across industries and across disciplines. Hosted by Wes Luttrell, the show centers on thoughtful dialogue with creatives, leaders, and operators whose work often goes unseen but shapes the world we live in. New episodes streaming every Tuesday.

Justin Riat is the Chief Growth Officer at Parlor Doughnuts, where he leads franchising strategy, expansion, and system development for the premium doughnut brand that now spans more than 100 locations across 30+ states. With over 20 years of experience in medical device sales, manufacturing, entrepreneurship, and franchising, Justin has driven growth in complex environments, scaling territories, leading turnarounds, and helping companies expand with operational clarity. His approach is simple: most growth challenges aren’t sales problems—they’re signals pointing to deeper opportunities in systems, leadership, and culture.Justin on Linked In Wes on Linked InRecorded on February 13, 2026 at Wally Opus Sound Studios in Evansville, Indiana._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _This episode is supported by Thru-Line Development Company, founded by Wes Luttrell in Evansville, Indiana. Thru-Line works with leaders and organizations at inflection points to collapse chaos and curate clarity by designing the systems, structures, and decision frameworks that align teams with their mission._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast about the invisible people who make life happen. What began as conversations with behind-the-scenes builders in the music industry has grown into a broader exploration of how people think, work, and carry responsibility across industries and across disciplines. Hosted by Wes Luttrell, the show centers on thoughtful dialogue with creatives, leaders, and operators whose work often goes unseen but shapes the world we live in. New episodes streaming every Tuesday.

Based in Evansville, Indiana, Chris Peters is a Terminal Manager with Marathon Petroleum, overseeing safe, reliable operations across Southern Indiana fuel terminals. A U.S. Navy veteran who spent nearly a decade as a sonar technician, Chris is known for steady, no-nonsense leadership in high-stakes, highly regulated environments. He also serves as Head of Parish Council at St. Boniface Parish.Recorded on February 9, 2026 at Wally Opus Sound Studios in Evansville, Indiana._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _This episode is supported by Thru-Line Development Company, founded by Wes Luttrell in Evansville, Indiana. Thru-Line works with leaders and organizations at critical inflection points to collapse chaos and curate clarity—designing the systems, structures, and decision frameworks that align teams with their mission._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast about the invisible people who make life happen. What began as conversations with behind-the-scenes builders in the music industry has grown into a broader exploration of how people think, work, and carry responsibility across industries and across disciplines. Hosted by Wes Luttrell, the show centers on thoughtful dialogue with creatives, leaders, and operators whose work often goes unseen but shapes the world we live in. New episodes streaming every Tuesday.

In this solo episode, Wesley explores maintenance mode vs mission mode; two fundamental ways organizations operate and how these modes are quietly shaping behavior, culture, and decision-making across industries and sectors he’s been working in. Drawing from real observations, he shares a working framework for understanding why some systems prioritize stability while others prioritize movement, and why capable people often feel aligned or misaligned inside them. Recorded on January 29, 2026 at Wally Opus Sound Studios in Evansville, Indiana._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _This show is supported by Thru-Line Development Company, an advisory practice founded by Wes Luttrell in Evansville, Indiana. Thru-Line works to collapse chaos and curate clarity, helping individuals and organizations make cleaner, more confident decisions during critical inflection points. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast about the invisible people who make life happen. What began as conversations with behind-the-scenes builders in the music industry has grown into a broader exploration of how people think, work, and carry responsibility across industries and across disciplines. Hosted by Wes Luttrell, the show centers on thoughtful dialogue with creatives, leaders, and operators whose work often goes unseen but shapes the world we live in. New episodes streaming every Tuesday.Follow Wes.Artwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

In the first episode of the new era of Everybody Else, Wes sits down with Nate Mominee, a custom builder, general contractor, serial entrepreneur, and co-creator of one of Evansville’s most interesting community corners (Spanky’s Pizza, Yoga Space, short-term rentals, and neighborhood development in Haynie's Corner). What begins as a conversation about construction quickly opens into something deeper around awareness as a business advantage, how leaders protect “potency” as systems grow, why “less is more” is often the real scaling strategy, and how community is built through a contagious culture of care and respect, down to the porch-sweeping level.  Websites: https://www.momineehomes.com/https://www.evansvilleyogaspace.com/Recorded on January 21, 2026 at Wally Opus Sound Studios in Evansville, Indiana._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _This show is supported by Thru-Line Development Company, an advisory practice founded by Wes Luttrell in Evansville, Indiana. Thru-Line works to collapse chaos and curate clarity, helping individuals and organizations make cleaner, more confident decisions during critical inflection points. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast about the invisible people who make life happen. What began as conversations with behind-the-scenes builders in the music industry has grown into a broader exploration of how people think, work, and carry responsibility across industries and across disciplines. Hosted by Wes Luttrell, the show centers on thoughtful dialogue with creatives, leaders, and operators whose work often goes unseen but shapes the world we live in. New episodes streaming every Tuesday.Follow Wes.Artwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

Everybody Else began as a podcast about the invisible people who make music happen, but a deeper through line has emerged over time. The most meaningful conversations were never about job titles, tactics, or tasks, they were about how people think, relate to their work, and carry meaningful responsibility in the complex, ever-evolving music industry. In this solo episode, Wes reflects on that realization and explains why the podcast is opening up to thoughtful conversations across industries as Everybody Else: understanding the invisible people who make life happen.Recorded on January 19, 2026 at Wally Opus Sound Studios in Evansville, Indiana._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _This show is supported by Thru-Line Development Company, an advisory practice founded by Wes Luttrell in Evansville, Indiana. Thru-Line works to collapse chaos and curate clarity, helping individuals and organizations make cleaner, more confident decisions during critical inflection points. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast about the invisible people who make life happen. What began as conversations with behind-the-scenes builders in the music industry has grown into a broader exploration of how people think, work, and carry responsibility across industries and across disciplines. Hosted by Wes Luttrell, the show centers on thoughtful dialogue with creatives, leaders, and operators whose work often goes unseen but shapes the world we live in. New episodes published every Tuesday.Music by Jim NoirArtwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

In this solo episode of Everybody Else, Wes explores how readiness and a clear sense of identity make it possible to stay aligned with your role when the chaos of sudden success demands more than talent alone. By zooming in on a defining moment in the early career of legendary rock drummer Sandy Gennaro, the episode unpacks the invisible work (years of repetition, service, and self-knowledge) that prepares a person to carry scale when it finally arrives. It’s a reminder that while talent can open the door, staying in the room requires an entirely different skill set. Listen to the full interview with Sandy's on Everybody Else. Recorded on December 30, 2025 at Wally Opus Sound Studios in Evansville, Indiana._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _This show is supported by: Thru-Line Development Company.Based in Evansville, Indiana, Thru-Line is an advisory practice supporting artists and their teams during moments of growth, transition, or pressure. The work focuses on removing noise, clarifying direction, and aligning creative, operational, and human systems so progress remains intentional and sustainable. Thru-Line approaches development through contained, long-arc work informed by cross-industry systems and structures. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.Follow Wes: Main linkMusic by Jim NoirArtwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

Dr. Tad Dickel is a leadership and strategy consultant based in Evansville, Indiana, working with businesses, universities, nonprofits, government agencies, churches, and schools across the Tri-State region and beyond. Tad’s journey into consulting began in music and education, serving first as a band and choir director at Mater Dei High School and later as a principal and president, before moving into his current advisory work. Apart from this role, Tad is also a bagpiper, vocalist, and guitarist, performing traditional Celtic music monthly with a small ensemble at Patsy Hartigan’s in downtown Evansville. Website: https://www.tadickel.com/ Recorded on December 19, 2025 in the roastery of Evansville Coffee Company in Evansville, Indiana._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _This show is supported by:The Victory Theatre. Located in the heart of downtown Evansville, Indiana, The Victory Theatre is a historic 1,950-seat venue hosting world-class entertainment such as Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit, Louis C.K, Deana Carter, and Eddie Griffin, to name a few. Managed by Venuworks, the 124-year-old theatre is also home to the Evansville Philharmonic Orchestra and Signature School, Indiana’s first charter school and a top-raked charter school in the nation. See all upcoming events at victorytheatre.com. Thru-Line Development Company. Based in Evansville, Indiana, Thru-Line is an advisory practice supporting artists and their teams during moments of growth, transition, or pressure. The work focuses on removing noise, clarifying direction, and aligning creative, operational, and human systems so progress remains intentional and sustainable. Thru-Line approaches development through contained, long-arc work informed by cross-industry systems and structures. Learn more at artistdev.co. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and label execs to venue managers, consultants, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.Follow Wes: Main linkMusic by Jim NoirArtwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

In this solo episode of Everybody Else, Wes explores the idea of containment; the often overlooked discipline of managing energy, attention, and focus in moments of pressure. Through a personal story, he reflects on how easily momentum turns into noise when structure disappears, and why clarity often comes from slowing down as opposed to pushing harder. This episode looks at how high performers stay grounded, protect their attention, and create the conditions for clean, confident decision-making.  Recorded on December 12, 2025 at Wally Opus Sound Studios in Evansville, Indiana._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _This show is supported by: Thru-Line Development Company. Based in Evansville, Indiana, Thru-Line is an advisory practice supporting artists and their teams during moments of growth, transition, or pressure. The work focuses on removing noise, clarifying direction, and aligning creative, operational, and human systems so progress remains intentional and sustainable. Thru-Line approaches development through contained, long-arc work informed by cross-industry systems and structures. Learn more at artistdev.co. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.Follow Wes: Main linkMusic by Jim NoirArtwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

Sandy Gennaro is a legendary rock drummer, author, and public speaker born in Little Italy, NY. With a career spanning over 50 years in music, he's played for world-renowned entertainers including Cyndi Lauper, Joan Jett & The Blackhearts, The Monkees, and Bo Diddley. Now based with his family in Nashville, TN, Sandy travels the world as a keynote speaker sharing stories from his career tied to lessons in business and leadership that have benefited companies like FedEx, Keller/Williams, and CBS Telecom, to name a few. In 2022, Sandy released, Beat The Odds, his first book addressing business management, the music industry, and his personal life experience as a drummer and public speaker. Recorded on December 10, 2025 at Sandy's house in Nashville, Tennessee._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Thank you to our show sponsors:The Victory Theatre: Located in the heart of downtown Evansville, Indiana, The Victory Theatre is a historic 1,950-seat venue hosting world-class entertainment such as Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit, Louis C.K, Deana Carter, and Eddie Griffin, to name a few. Managed by Venuworks, the 124-year-old theatre is also home to the Evansville Philharmonic Orchestra and Signature School, Indiana’s first charter school and a top-raked charter school in the nation. See all upcoming events at victorytheatre.com.Thru-Line Development Company: Based in Evansville, Indiana, Thru-Line is an advisory practice supporting artists and their teams during moments of growth, transition, or pressure. The work focuses on removing noise, clarifying direction, and aligning creative, operational, and human systems so progress remains intentional and sustainable. Thru-Line approaches development through contained, long-arc work informed by cross-industry systems and structures. Learn more at artistdev.co. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.Follow Wes: Main linkMusic by Jim NoirArtwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

Chrystelle Nammour is an artist development advisor who serves as the Head of Groover Club, a coaching program for emerging artists within Groover. Having consulted on the projects of over 350 artists, she is an original creator of the Groover Club as well as the Groover Masterclass, a music business educational program for independent artists. Based in Paris, France, Chrystelle is also a recording artist and serves as a member of She Said So France, an organization dedicated to bringing together women of the music industry by exchanging advice, best practices, and personal experiences in a spirit of sisterhood.Recorded virtually on December 10, 2025._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Thank you to our show sponsors:Groover is the global go-to platform for independent artists for all their promotional needs and artist services. It started with a simple but frustrating truth: talented artists weren’t getting heard. Emails went unanswered, demos got lost, and opportunities stayed out of reach. Insert Groover—a platform where artists could finally connect with industry pros, get real feedback, and unlock new career opportunities. Today, 3,000+ pros and curators listen to new tracks from over 500,000+ artists who use Groover to share their music, get feedback, and land real opportunities—over 5M pieces of feedback given, 1M+ shares, reviews, and playlist adds, and 1,500+ label signings.Visit  https://groover.co/en/ to promote your next single and get 15% off your first campaign by using promo code EVERYBODYELSE (good for one campaign). Here's how it can be applied.Thru-Line Development Company: Based in Evansville, Indiana, Thru-Line is a development and advisory practice working with artists and their teams at moments of growth, transition, or pressure. The work focuses on simplifying complexity, removing noise, and creating clarity for better decision-making across creative, operational, and human systems. The goal: progress that feels intentional, aligned, and sustainable. Learn more at artistdev.co. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.Follow Wes: Main linkMusic by Jim NoirArtwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

Gale Woolems is a singer-songwriter from Evansville, Indiana. Having written poetry for most of her life, she turned to songwriting nearly three decades ago after wowing friends and family with her voice. Known as “G” to her grandkids, she has written hundreds of original songs and once performed them locally at spots like Goldie’s and The St. Joe Inn, as well as in Nashville at the Bluebird Café and during Nashville Songwriters Association International (NSAI) events. At 75, she spends her days with her family and continues to write songs with honesty, heart, and a deep respect for the craft that’s inspired her throughout life. Recorded on November 20, 2025 at Wally Opus Sound Studios in Evansville, Indiana._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Thank you to our show sponsors:The Victory Theatre: Located in the heart of downtown Evansville, Indiana, The Victory Theatre is a historic 1,950-seat venue hosting world-class entertainment such as Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit, Louis C.K, Deana Carter, and Eddie Griffin, to name a few. Managed by Venuworks, the 124-year-old theatre is also home to the Evansville Philharmonic Orchestra and Signature School, Indiana’s first charter school and a top-raked charter school in the nation. See all upcoming events at victorytheatre.com.Thru-Line Development Company: Based in Evansville, Indiana, Thru-Line Dev Co. is a boutique coaching practice made for the highly-committed developing and established artists in need of clarity of vision, strengthening of identity, and realignment of the systems and structures surrounding their careers for authentic, scalable growth. Rooted in a practice of supportive inquiry and deep creative alignment, Thru-Line exists to help artists move beyond burnout, misalignment, and inherited industry beliefs to build careers that scale with clarity rather than compromise. Learn more at artistdev.co. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.Follow Wes: Main linkMusic by Jim NoirArtwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

David Pearl, LCSW, is a psychotherapist and performance coach who helps people optimize their potential and achieve meaningful results by building emotional endurance, breaking old patterns, and performing from a grounded, authentic place. Having trained at Union Square Practice in NYC, David founded Music City Psych, a private therapy and executive coaching practice located in Nashville, Tennessee. David and his team counsel adults, adolescents, and couples, as well as musicians and recording artists, athletes, high-performing professionals, and businesses.  Website: Music City PsychRecorded on November 18, 2025 at the offices of Music City Psych in Nashville, Tennessee._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Thank you to our show sponsors:The Victory Theatre: Located in the heart of downtown Evansville, Indiana, The Victory Theatre is a historic 1,950-seat venue hosting world-class entertainment such as Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit, Louis C.K, Deana Carter, and Eddie Griffin, to name a few. Managed by Venuworks, the 124-year-old theatre is also home to the Evansville Philharmonic Orchestra and Signature School, Indiana’s first charter school and a top-raked charter school in the nation. See all upcoming events at victorytheatre.com.Thru-Line Development Company: Based in Evansville, Indiana, Thru-Line Dev Co. is a boutique coaching practice made for the highly-committed developing and established artists in need of clarity of vision, strengthening of identity, and realignment of the systems and structures surrounding their careers for authentic, scalable growth. Rooted in a practice of supportive inquiry and deep creative alignment, Thru-Line exists to help artists move beyond burnout, misalignment, and inherited industry beliefs to build careers that scale with clarity rather than compromise. Learn more at artistdev.co. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.Follow Wes: Main linkMusic by Jim NoirArtwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

Lauren Longbine Bartlett is a Country Radio Promotion Executive based in Scottsdale, Arizona. Over the last decade, she’s helped garner 33 #1 hits for artists including Luke Combs, FGL, Megan Moroney, Old Dominion, and dozens more. Previously, she worked as Sr. Director of Promotion & Artist Development at Sony Music Nashville and was a Regional Director of Promotion & Marketing at Big Machine Label Group in Nashville. Currently, Lauren works independently on releases for artists including Chris Janson, Brandon Lake & Jelly Roll, and more with her company Gregory Brand Collective.Follow Lauren: @laurenlbartlettRecorded on November 18, 2025 at the Hilton Garden Vanderbilt hotel in Nashville, Tennessee. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Thank you to our show sponsors:The Victory Theatre: Located in the heart of downtown Evansville, Indiana, The Victory Theatre is a historic 1,950-seat venue hosting world-class entertainment such as Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit, Louis C.K, Deana Carter, and Eddie Griffin, to name a few. Managed by Venuworks, the 124-year-old theatre is also home to the Evansville Philharmonic Orchestra and Signature School, Indiana’s first charter school and a top-raked charter school in the nation. See all upcoming events at victorytheatre.com.Thru-Line Development Company: Based in Evansville, Indiana, Thru-Line Dev Co. is a boutique coaching practice made for the highly-committed developing and established artists in need of clarity of vision, strengthening of identity, and realignment of the systems and structures surrounding their careers for authentic, scalable growth. Rooted in a practice of supportive inquiry and deep creative alignment, Thru-Line exists to help artists move beyond burnout, misalignment, and inherited industry beliefs to build careers that scale with clarity rather than compromise. Learn more at artistdev.co. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.Follow Wes: Main linkMusic by Jim NoirArtwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

Chris Rusecki is the Head of Campaign Management at Soar Music Group, a Netherlands-based, multi-faceted music promotion company focused on playlisting, press, and live bookings. Based in Manchester, England, Chris previously earned a Masters Degree in Music & Management at the University of Leeds started his career in music as a Senior A&R at Liberty Music PR. Chris is also co-founder of The Nineties, a consultancy firm focused on advising independent artist in the area of music marketing.Follow Chris: @chrisruseckiFollow Soar Music Group: @soarmusicgroup_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Thank you to our sponsor, Symphonic. Founded in 2006 by former music producer Jorge Brea, Symphonic Distribution provides thousands of new and established record labels, managers, and artists with global digital music and video distribution to hundreds of retail and streaming platforms, playlist pitching, release promotion, and a comprehensive suite of label services.A shortlist of Artists and Record Labels who have had their work distributed through Symphonic include: Ok Go!, Jon Batiste, Doechii, Melissa Etheridge, Sean Paul, CloZee, Odesza, LS DREAM, Sarah McLachlan, Wally Opus Records, and many more incredibly talented creatives across various genres.Switch to Symphonic to get your music onto all major platforms and utilize their growing set of tools and offerings with 25% off your first year of a Starter Package by visiting:  https://symphonic.com/starter/  and entering the promo code "everybodyelse" (case sensitive) at check out._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.Follow Wes: Main linkMusic by Jim NoirArtwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

Dr. Perry Burnett is an economics professor at the University of Southern Indiana where his primary research areas are in urban and regional economics and the economics of religion. Perry's research has been published in leading international journals, such as the Journal of Regional Science,  Land Economics, Social Indicators Research and the Journal of Policy Modeling. In 2022, he discovered the band Lorna Shore and has since become a devote listener and audience member of the genre Deathcore where he's discovered a sort of spiritual medicine in the music. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Thank you to our show sponsor, The Victory Theatre, for bringing great entertainment to our little city and for believing in this show.Located in the heart of downtown Evansville, Indiana, The Victory Theatre is a historic 1,950-seat venue hosting world-class entertainment such as Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit, Louis C.K, Deana Carter, and Eddie Griffin, to name a few. Managed by Venuworks, the 124-year-old theatre is also home to the Evansville Philharmonic Orchestra and Signature School, Indiana’s first charter school and a top-raked charter school in the nation.Visit the Victory Theatre website to browse tickets: https://www.victorytheatre.com/home_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.Follow Wes: Main linkMusic by Jim NoirArtwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

The Mothership is a multi-faceted music venue and rehearsal space located in Mansfield, Ohio. Founded in 2018 by owner Jeff Ulery, The Mothership was converted from an old doctors office into a 16-room facility housing practice spaces, a 100 cap live venue, free lodging for touring musicians, and (soon) a full-service recording studio. Nate Daniel is the venue’s General Manager who leads operations including booking bands such as The Toxhards, Wynton Existing, Hippies and Cowboys, and Leo Lovechild, to name a few. Follow The Mothership: @theemothershipWebsite: https://mothership.love/_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Thank you to our sponsor, Symphonic. Founded in 2006 by former music producer Jorge Brea, Symphonic Distribution provides thousands of new and established record labels, managers, and artists with global digital music and video distribution to hundreds of retail and streaming platforms, playlist pitching, release promotion, and a comprehensive suite of label services.A shortlist of Artists and Record Labels who have had their work distributed through Symphonic include: Sublime, Ok Go!, Jon Batiste, Doechii, Melissa Etheridge, Sean Paul, CloZee, Odesza, LS DREAM, Sarah McLachlan, Wally Opus Records, and many more incredibly talented creatives across various genres.Switch to Symphonic to get your music onto all major platforms and utilize their growing set of tools and offerings with 25% off your first year of a Starter Package by visiting:  https://symphonic.com/starter/  and entering the promo code "everybodyelse" (case sensitive) at check out._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.Follow Wes: Main linkMusic by Jim NoirArtwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

Aaron Mones is a touring musician, producer, and multi-instrumentalist based in Rifton, New York. Credited with millions of streams, Aaron has played or produced on recordings for Paul Moody, Leo Lovechild, The Shivers, Ghost Prom, and numerous others. He and his twin brother, Wyatt Mones, release original music under their artist moniker, Spillway.Follow Aaron: @desdreamerFollow Spillway: @spilllway_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Thank you to our show sponsor, The Victory Theatre, for bringing great entertainment to our little city and for believing in this show.Located in the heart of downtown Evansville, Indiana, The Victory Theatre is a historic 1,950-seat venue hosting world-class entertainment such as Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit, Louis C.K, Deana Carter, and Eddie Griffin, to name a few. Managed by Venuworks, the 124-year-old theatre is also home to the Evansville Philharmonic Orchestra and Signature School, Indiana’s first charter school and a top-raked charter school in the nation.Visit the Victory Theatre website to browse tickets: https://www.victorytheatre.com/home_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.Follow Wes: Main linkMusic by Jim NoirArtwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

Show host Wes Luttrell shares his approach and experience as a music producer through five stories of projects he's worked on over the previous decade - first, as the artist producer, Para Doc, then as a producer for Midwest artists like The Strangers, Swamp Eyes, Jax Fleming, and Maggie Hollis. In this solo episode, he reflects on how setting a vision for the project early on carries the music across the finish line and sets the conditions for "magic to happen".  Follow Wes: Instagram _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Songs featured in this episode (in order): "Tuesday Feels" - Para Doc "Electric Love" - The Strangers"Cheers" - Swamps Eyes"Superficial" - Jax Fleming "Second Best" - Maggie Hollis"Sky Blue Waters" - The ChugsAs mentioned: The Strangers Story - A Mini Doc  _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.Follow Wes: Main linkMusic by Jim NoirArtwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

This week, we go behind-the-scenes of the podcast dedicated to behind-the-scenes of music. Inputing the transcripts of the first 19 episodes combined with prompts that dive into how the show was conceived, how it was launched, and where it's headed, host, Wes Luttrell, reflects on starting Everybody Else and what he learned from the first 19 episodes by answering questions provided by ChatGPT. This is "Current State". Follow Wes: @wes_luttrell_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.Follow Wes: Main linkMusic by Jim NoirArtwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

Ethan Douglass and Christian Schmitz are visual artists and scene makers based in Newburgh, Indiana. They are the co-founders of Baggy Genes, an annual art-centric event featuring an original curated art exhibit and live music that draws hundreds of young people from across the Tri-State (& beyond). Ethan is also the drummer of the band, TRUCK, as well as the visual artist responsible for branding the Everybody Else Podcast. Follow Ethan: @ethandouglasssFollow Christian: @cljschmitz_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Thank you to our show sponsor, The Victory Theatre, for believing in this show.Located in the heart of downtown Evansville, Indiana, The Victory Theatre is a historic 1,950-seat venue hosting world-class entertainment such as Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit, Louis C.K, Deana Carter, and Eddie Griffin, to name a few. Managed by Venuworks, the 124-year-old theatre is also home to the Evansville Philharmonic Orchestra and Signature School, Indiana’s first charter school and a top-raked charter school in the nation.Visit the Victory Theatre website to browse tickets: https://www.victorytheatre.com/home_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.Follow Wes: Main linkMusic by Jim NoirArtwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

Kadin Rea is the bassist of The Band Feel, a St. Louis-based vintage-meets-modern rock band known for their classic aesthetic and exciting live performances. Having opened for acts like ZZ Top, The Black Crowes, and Dirty Honey, Kadin and his bandmates are represented by Red Light Management and United Talent Agency (booking). A native of Santa Claus, Indiana, where he runs live sound for venues in Holiday World Theme Park between tours, Kadin started as the bassist and a founding member of The Strangers, the first band ever signed to Wally Opus Records. He recently started River City Music Collective, a booking and show promotion company aiming to grow the live music scene in Evansville, Indiana. Follow Kadin: @kadin_reaFollow The Band Feel: @thebandfeel _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Thank you to our show sponsor, The Victory Theatre, for bringing great entertainment to our little city and for believing in this show.Located in the heart of downtown Evansville, Indiana, The Victory Theatre is a historic 1,950-seat venue hosting world-class entertainment such as Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit, Louis C.K, Deana Carter, and Eddie Griffin, to name a few. Managed by Venuworks, the 124-year-old theatre is also home to the Evansville Philharmonic Orchestra and Signature School, Indiana’s first charter school and a top-raked charter school in the nation.Visit the Victory Theatre website to browse tickets: https://www.victorytheatre.com/home_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.Follow Wes: Main linkMusic by Jim NoirArtwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

Space Monkey Records is a multi-faceted record store located in Evansville, Indiana. Founded in 2019 by long-time DJ and serial entrepreneur Patrick Holl, Space Monkey carries over half a million vinyls, cassettes, and CD’s along with an array of vintage and HiFi stereo equipment. Alongside Pat, Meredith Rausch helps run the store’s many offerings including free monthly shows to support local bands. With additional vendor mall locations, the primary store is also home to one of the Tri-State's largest collections of rock memorabilia and local popular-music history. Follow Space Monkey: @spacemonkeyrecordsFor location and hours of operation, visit Space Monkey's Website_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _This episode of Everybody Else is brought to you by Wally Opus.Proudly based in Evansville, Indiana, Wally Opus is a record label and artist management company serving a handful of recording artists and bands with distribution, marketing, and management of their projects. With a roster stretching coast-to-coast including acts like The Chugs, Ghost Prom, Leo Lovechild, Jax Fleming, Cathryn Lovett, and more, the small, spirited team of doers helps develop and advance artists in their work and lives through holistic, long term planning and common sense support of their creative endeavors.Visit https://wallyopus.com/ to see all the fine details._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.Follow Wes: Main linkMusic by Jim NoirArtwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

Jess Keifer is Head of Digital Marketing and Social Strategy at Make Wake Artists, a boutique artist services company based in Nashville, Tennessee. Lead by founder and artist manager, Chris "Kappy", Jess and her Make Wake team serve a roster that includes Luke Combs, Jon Bellion, The Band Perry, Flatland Cavalry, and over a dozen more. An IU-grad and Indy native, Jess formerly worked as Director of Digital Strategy at Sony Music and eCommerce Manager at Big Machine Label Group.Follow Jess: @jessicakeiferFollow Make Wake: @makewakeartists_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Thank you to our sponsor, Symphonic. Founded in 2006 by former music producer Jorge Brea, Symphonic Distribution provides thousands of new and established record labels, managers, and artists with global digital music and video distribution to hundreds of retail and streaming platforms, playlist pitching, release promotion, and a comprehensive suite of label services.A shortlist of Artists and Record Labels who have had their work distributed through Symphonic include: Sublime, Ok Go!, Jon Batiste, Doechii, Melissa Etheridge, Sean Paul, CloZee, Odesza, LS DREAM, Sarah McLachlan, Wally Opus Records, and many more incredibly talented creatives across various genres.Switch to Symphonic to get your music onto all major platforms and utilize their growing set of tools and offerings with 25% off your first year of a Starter Package by visiting:  https://symphonic.com/starter/  and entering the promo code "everybodyelse" (case sensitive) at check out._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.Follow Wes: Main linkMusic by Jim NoirArtwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

Sam Kuban is a Release Strategist at Wally Opus, an independent record label and artist management company located in Evansville, Indiana. In addition to helping foster the growth and project development of the emerging acts on the label's roster, he is also the drummer and vocalist of The Chugs, a chart-topping surf punk band dedicated to Hamm's Beer as well as a singer, songwriter, and multi-instrumentalist in his solo project, Swamp Eyes. Sam also contributes as a copy editor to the works of Aaron Tanner, whose coffee table books for bands like Cardiacs, Pixies, Face-To-Face, and more are housed in the permanent collections of MoMA, The Smithsonian, and The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. Follow Sam: @sam_kubanFollow The Chugs: @thechugsband _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Thank you to our sponsor, Symphonic. Founded in 2006 by former music producer Jorge Brea, Symphonic Distribution provides thousands of new and established record labels, managers, and artists with global digital music and video distribution to hundreds of retail and streaming platforms, playlist pitching, release promotion, and a comprehensive suite of label services.A shortlist of Artists and Record Labels who have had their work distributed through Symphonic include: Sublime, Ok Go!, Jon Batiste, Doechii, Melissa Etheridge, Sean Paul, CloZee, Odesza, LS DREAM, Sarah McLachlan, Wally Opus Records, and many more incredibly talented creatives across various genres.Switch to Symphonic to get your music onto all major platforms and utilize their growing tools and offerings with 25% off your first year of a Starter Package by visiting:  https://symphonic.com/starter/  and entering the promo code "everybodyelse" (case sensitive) at check out._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.Follow Wes: Main linkMusic by Jim NoirArtwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

Flint Rasure is Vice President of Concept Sound & Light, a full-service audio, video, and lighting production and install company located in Evansville, Indiana. Starting his career as a local DJ, Flint found a job at Concept nearly 15 years ago and has since evolved into a part owner of the company that services the local and regional area with anything from small PA rentals to large-scale concert sound and lighting configurations at venues like the Victory Theatre, ONEP, and the Ford Center, to name a few. Alongside a co-worker, Flint also helped pioneer an in-house live-streaming setup for churches that pre-dated COVID by five years and became a valuable resource for the community and company during the time of the pandemic.   Follow Flint: @flintrasureFollow Concept: @conceptsoundandlight_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Thank you to our show sponsor, The Victory Theatre, for bringing great entertainment to our little city and for believing in this show.Located in the heart of downtown Evansville, Indiana, The Victory Theatre is a historic 1,950-seat venue hosting world-class entertainment such as Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit, Louis C.K, Deana Carter, and Eddie Griffin, to name a few. Managed by Venuworks, the 124-year-old theatre is also home to the Evansville Philharmonic Orchestra and Signature School, Indiana’s first charter school and a top-raked charter school in the nation.Visit the Victory Theatre website to browse tickets: https://www.victorytheatre.com/home_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.Follow Wes: Main linkMusic by Jim NoirArtwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

Logan Bell is freelance PA Tech who works in large-scale live concert audio. Over the last decade, he's been contracted through companies like VER and PRG (now combined as a conglomerate) to tour across the world with acts such as Metallica, Styx, J Balvin, John Legend, Santana, Rosalia, Adam Sandler, Daniel Caesar, Janet Jackson, and more. An Ohio native, Logan is a graduate of Full Sail University, where he was Wes's college roommate, and he's currently on tour in Europe flying PA as a Tech for Pantera. Follow Logan: Instagram_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Thank you to our episode sponsor, Symphonic.Founded in 2006 by former music producer Jorge Brea, Symphonic Distribution provides thousands of new and established record labels, managers, and artists with global digital music and video distribution to hundreds of retail and streaming platforms, playlist pitching, release promotion, and a comprehensive suite of label services.A shortlist of Artists and Record Labels who have had their work distributed through Symphonic include: Sublime, Ok Go!, Jon Batiste, Doechii, Melissa Etheridge, Sean Paul, CloZee, Odesza, LS DREAM, Sarah McLachlan, Wally Opus Records, and many more incredibly talented creatives across various genres.Switch to Symphonic to get your music onto all major platforms and utilize their growing tools and offerings with 25% off your first year of a Starter Package by visiting:  https://symphonic.com/starter/  and entering the promo code "everybodyelse" (case sensitive) at check out._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.Follow Wes: Main linkMusic by Jim NoirArtwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

Eric McLellan is an artist advisor and founder of Yo Peep This, a music marketing and label services company based in New Jersey. He’s also an artist coach at Groover, where he serves the company’s US-based community. Previously, Eric served as an A&R at Warner Music Group working under Seymour Stein for over a decade and has also held roles at Sony Music and Breakr Biz Dev at Gathr.Follow Eric: Instagram, LinkedIn_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Thank you to our episode sponsor, Groover, for working hard to build a great platform connecting artists with music pros and for believing in this show.Groover is the global go-to platform for independent artists for all their promotional needs and artist services. It started with a simple but frustrating truth: talented artists weren’t getting heard. Emails went unanswered, demos got lost, and opportunities stayed out of reach. Insert Groover—a platform where artists could finally connect with industry pros, get real feedback, and unlock new career opportunities. Today, 3,000+ pros and curators listen to new tracks from over 500,000+ artists who use Groover to share their music, get feedback, and land real opportunities—over 5M pieces of feedback given, 1M+ shares, reviews, and playlist adds, and 1,500+ label signings.Visit  https://groover.co/en/ to promote your next single and get 15% off your first campaign by using promo code EVERYBODYELSE (good for one campaign). Here's how it can be applied._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.Follow Wes: Main linkMusic by Jim NoirArtwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

Show host Wes Luttrell shares his unique experience as a stagehand for the local IATSE Union at a recent Jon Pardi concert at the Ford Center in Evansville, IN. In this short solo episode, he reflects on the camaraderie among crew members, the logistics of concert load-outs, and the insights gained about union work and the dedication required to make live music happen.  Follow Wes: Instagram _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _"Thank you to Chris Passage, Lora Melone, Scott VanMeter, and Steve VanMeter for providing me with a truly priceless experience." - Wes_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.Follow Wes: Main linkMusic by Jim NoirArtwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

“Uncle Dave” Kunkel is a retired Radio Personality and Disc Jockey. With a career spanning over 60 years in broadcast, he’s well known for hosting “The Going Home Show” on 98.1 WRAY in Princeton, Indiana. Aside from radio, Dave has guest-hosted The Grand Ole Opry in Nashville five times, DJ’d hundreds of events, and been a longtime volunteer at the Gibson County Fair where he once ran live sound for country music legends like Waylon Jennings, Johnny Cash and June Carter, Hank Williams Jr., and more. Follow Dave: Facebook_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Thank you to our episode sponsor, Symphonic.Founded in 2006 by former music producer Jorge Brea, Symphonic Distribution provides thousands of new and established record labels, managers, and artists with global digital music and video distribution to hundreds of retail and streaming platforms, playlist pitching, release promotion, and a comprehensive suite of label services.A shortlist of Artists and Record Labels who have had their work distributed through Symphonic include: Sublime, Ok Go!, Jon Batiste, Doechii, Melissa Etheridge, Sean Paul, CloZee, Odesza, LS DREAM, Sarah McLachlan, Wally Opus Records, and many more incredibly talented creatives across various genres.Switch to Symphonic to get your music onto all major platforms and utilize their growing tools and offerings with 25% off your first year of a Starter Package by visiting:  https://symphonic.com/starter/  and entering the promo code "everybodyelse" (case sensitive) at check out._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.Follow Wes: Main linkMusic by Jim NoirArtwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

Lora Melone is Director of the 1,950-seat Victory Theatre located in downtown Evansville, Indiana. Starting her career with Venuworks in Food and Beverage at the Ford Center, Lora gradually worked her way into her current role which includes the overseeing of day-to-day venue operations, staff management, and talent booking at the historic Victory where she's secured shows hosting Jason Isbell, Tom Segura, Deana Carter, Ben Folds, Brett Young, and countless others.  Follow Lora: @lora.melone Follow The Victory: @victory_theatre_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Thank you to our show sponsor, The Victory Theatre, for bringing great entertainment to our little city and for believing in this show.Located in the heart of downtown Evansville, Indiana, The Victory Theatre is a historic 1,950-seat venue hosting world-class entertainment such as Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit, Louis C.K, Deana Carter, and Eddie Griffin, to name a few. Managed by Venuworks, the 124-year-old theatre is also home to the Evansville Philharmonic Orchestra and Signature School, Indiana’s first charter school and a top-raked charter school in the nation.Visit the Victory Theatre website to browse tickets: https://www.victorytheatre.com/home_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.Follow Wes: Main linkMusic by Jim NoirArtwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

Wyatt Mones is a producer, multi-instrumentalist, and live sound engineer who runs front of house for The Main Squeeze and the LA music venue/recording studio Gold-Diggers. As a producer & songwriter, Wyatt is credited with over 6 million streams having written and produced for Calica, Leo Lovechild, Sid Simons, and numerous others. He and his twin brother, Aaron Mones, release original music under their artist moniker, Spillway.Follow Wyatt > https://www.instagram.com/ttayw/_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _This episode of Everybody Else is brought to you by Wally Opus.Proudly based in Evansville, Indiana, Wally Opus is a record label and artist management company serving a handful of recording artists and bands with distribution, marketing, and management of their projects. With a roster stretching coast-to-coast including acts like The Chugs, Ghost Prom, Leo Lovechild, Spillway, Cathryn Lovett, and more, the small, spirited team of doers helps develop and advance artists in their work and lives through holistic, long term planning and common sense support of their creative endeavors.Visit https://wallyopus.com/ to see all the fine details._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast that pulls back the curtain on the people behind the music industry—the ones you don’t see in the spotlight. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music.Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.Follow Wes: Main linkMusic by Jim NoirArtwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

Jeri Gennaro is a tour manager and production manager who’s led planning, logistics, and more for such acts as Sleigh Bells, The Pretenders, Old Crow Medicine Show, Lee Ann Womack, Elle King, and more. Originally from New York and now based in Nashville, TN, Jeri recently took over as production manager of Brooklyn Bowl Nashville, a state-of-the-art 1200-capacity music venue which also holds 19 bowling lanes and a full-service restaurant by Blue Ribbon.Follow Jeri: @rebelofnyc_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Thank you to our show sponsor, The Victory Theatre, for bringing great entertainment to our little city and for believing in this show.Located in the heart of downtown Evansville, Indiana, The Victory Theatre is a historic 1,950-seat venue hosting world-class entertainment such as upcoming shows with Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit, Louis C.K, Danae Hays, and Brad Williams, to name a few. Managed by Venuworks, the 124-year-old theatre is also home to the Evansville Philharmonic Orchestra and Signature School, Indiana’s first charter school and a top-raked charter school in the nation.Visit the Victory Theatre website to browse tickets: https://www.victorytheatre.com/home_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast that pulls back the curtain on the people behind the music industry—the ones you don’t see in the spotlight. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music.Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.Follow Wes: Main linkMusic by Jim NoirArtwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

Aaron Tanner is a creative director, author, and musician who’s created award-winning artwork and coffee table books for bands including Ween, Pixies, Face-To-Face, and more. His works have been featured in Rolling Stone, Pitchfork, SPIN, and others while his books have found permanent homes in the collections of MoMA, The Smithsonian, and The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. Based in Evansville, Indiana, Aaron’s design clients range from Azzip Pizza to Secretly Canadian and Exit/In to Pangea Kitchen. See it all on his website: https://aarontanner.com/_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _This episode of Everybody Else is brought to you by Wally Opus. Proudly based in Evansville, Indiana, Wally Opus is a record label and artist management company serving a handful of recording artists and bands with distribution, marketing, and management of their projects. With a roster stretching Coast-to-Coast including acts like The Chugs, Ghost Prom, Leo Lovechild, Spillway, Cathryn Lovett, and more, the small, spirited team of doers helps develop and advance artists in their work and lives through holistic, long term planning and common sense support of their creative endeavors. Visit https://wallyopus.com/ to see all the fine details._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast that pulls back the curtain on the people behind the music industry—the ones you don’t see in the spotlight. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music.Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.Follow Wes: Main linkMusic by Jim NoirArtwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

Jelmer Rotteveel is a serial entrepreneur and the founder of Soar Music Group, a multifaceted music promotion company based in the Netherlands. With a career history that encompasses blogging, interning at records labels like Spinnin’ and Steve Aoki’s Dim Mak Records, and starting his own live events company, Run The Trap, Jelmer launched Soar Music in 2020 to offer artists and labels a full suite of services like editorial and independent playlisting, press, sync-licensing, booking, and more. Website: https://soarmusicgroup.com/_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Thank you to our show sponsor, The Victory Theatre, for bringing great entertainment to our little city and for believing in this show.Located in the heart of downtown Evansville, Indiana, The Victory Theatre is a historic 1,950-seat venue hosting world-class entertainment such as upcoming shows with Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit, Louis C.K, Danae Hays, and Brad Williams, to name a few. Managed by Venuworks, the 124-year-old theatre is also home to the Evansville Philharmonic Orchestra and Signature School, Indiana’s first charter school and a top-raked charter school in the nation.Visit the Victory Theatre website to browse tickets: https://www.victorytheatre.com/home_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast that pulls back the curtain on the people behind the music industry—the ones you don’t see in the spotlight. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music.Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.Follow Wes: Main linkMusic by Jim NoirArtwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

Cassidy Frost is a writer, educator, and founder of Dedicate Your Life to Music, a music career incubator for women and one of the most-popular music education channels on Substack. Previously, Cassidy fronted the critically-acclaimed, Portland-based slow-fi indie band, bed., and co-founded the indie music publicity firm, Public Display PR, in San Fransisco in 2013. Website: https://substack.com/@dedicateyourlifetomusic_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Thank you to our show sponsor, Groover. Join Wes and Groover Artist Coach, Eric McLellan, for a Groover Club masterclass on holistic artist development next month, July 16, 2025. The webinar is focused on taking consistent, intentional action in your work in music to create meaningful, long-term results - based on your specific goals and aspirations for a unique life in modern music. *The class is exclusive to Groover Club members.* Visit https://groover.co/en/lp/groover-club/ to see all available plans.  Groover is the global go-to platform for independent artists for all their promotional needs and artist services. It started with a simple but frustrating truth: talented artists weren’t getting heard. Emails went unanswered, demos got lost, and opportunities stayed out of reach. Insert Groover—a platform where artists could finally connect with industry pros, get real feedback, and unlock new career opportunities. Today, 3,000+ pros and curators listen to new tracks from over 500,000+ artists who use Groover to share their music, get feedback, and land real opportunities—over 5M pieces of feedback given, 1M+ shares, reviews, and playlist adds, and 1,500+ label signings.Visit  https://groover.co/en/ to promote your next single and get 15% off your first campaign by using promo code EVERYBODYELSE (good for one campaign). Here's how it can be applied._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast that pulls back the curtain on the people behind the music industry—the ones you don’t see in the spotlight. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music.Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.Follow Wes: Main linkMusic by Jim NoirArtwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

Lee Griffin is a Client Manager at the independent music distributor, Symphonic, where he represents the digital distribution of such acts as Sublime, CloZee, Big Gigantic, and Wally Opus Records. As a DJ, Lee has signed deals with Ram Records and Play Me Records. He resides in Nashville, Tennessee.Follow Lee: https://www.instagram.com/lee_griffin/Follow Symphonic: https://www.instagram.com/symphonicdistro/Visit Website: https://symphonic.com/_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Thank you to our episode sponsor, Symphonic, for working hard to get the music of independent artists and labels heard and for believing in this show in the early days.Founded in 2006 by former music producer Jorge Brea, Symphonic Distribution provides thousands of new and established record labels, managers, and artists with global digital music and video distribution to hundreds of retail and streaming platforms, playlist pitching, release promotion, and a comprehensive suite of label services.A shortlist of Artists and Record Labels who have had their work distributed through Symphonic include: Sublime, Ok Go!, Jon Batiste, Doechii, Melissa Etheridge, Sean Paul, CloZee, Odesza, LS DREAM, Sarah McLachlan, Wally Opus Records, and many more incredibly talented creatives across various genres.Switch to Symphonic to get your music onto all major platforms and utilize their growing tools and offerings with 25% off your first year of a Starter Package by visiting:  https://symphonic.com/starter/  and entering the promo code everybodyelse (case sensitive) at check out._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast that pulls back the curtain on the people behind the music industry—the ones you don’t see in the spotlight. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music.Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.Follow Wes: Main link Music by Jim NoirArtwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

Dorian Perron is an entrepreneur, musician, and former blogger who co-founded Groover in 2018. With offices in Paris and New York, Dorian leads the operations of Groover as one of three founders who’ve raised over $15 million in funding to bolster an online platform that connects over 600,000 active users to more than 3000 curators and music pros across the world. Dorian also founded the French indie music blog, Indeflagration. Follow Dorian: https://www.instagram.com/dorianflagrant/Follow Groover: https://www.instagram.com/groover.en/Visit Website: https://groover.co/en/_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Thank you to our episode sponsor, Groover, for working hard to build a great platform connecting artists with music pros and for believing in this show.Groover is the global go-to platform for independent artists for all their promotional needs and artist services. It started with a simple but frustrating truth: talented artists weren’t getting heard. Emails went unanswered, demos got lost, and opportunities stayed out of reach. Insert Groover—a platform where artists could finally connect with industry pros, get real feedback, and unlock new career opportunities. Today, 3,000+ pros and curators listen to new tracks from over 500,000+ artists who use Groover to share their music, get feedback, and land real opportunities—over 5M pieces of feedback given, 1M+ shares, reviews, and playlist adds, and 1,500+ label signings.Visit  https://groover.co/en/ to promote your next single and get 15% off your first campaign by using promo code EVERYBODYELSE (good for one campaign). Here's how it can be applied._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast that pulls back the curtain on the people behind the music industry—the ones you don’t see in the spotlight. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music.Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.Music by Jim NoirArtwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

Chris Passage is the Venuworks Event Manager at The Ford Center and the Victory Theater in Evansville, Indiana. Over the past 20 years, Chris went from managing a Pizza Hut to booking shows for local bands and running small venues to, now, helping book and manage large-scale concerts and events at two of the biggest and most important venues in the region. Chris also founded Music Makes a Difference, a free concert series to raise funds for the non-profit organization, Easterseals. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Thank you to our first sponsor, The Victory Theatre, for bringing great entertainment to our little city and for believing in this show.Located in the heart of downtown Evansville, Indiana, The Victory Theatre is a historic 1,950-seat venue hosting world-class entertainment such as upcoming shows with Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit, Louis C.K, Easton Corbin, and Brad Williams, to name a few. Managed by Venuworks, the 124-year-old theatre is also home to the Evansville Philharmonic Orchestra and Signature School, Indiana’s first charter school and a top-raked charter school in the nation. Visit the Victory Theatre website to browse tickets: https://www.victorytheatre.com/home_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Everybody Else is a podcast that pulls back the curtain on the people behind the music industry—the ones you don’t see in the spotlight. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music.Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.Music by Jim NoirArtwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor 

Everybody Else is a podcast that pulls back the curtain on the people behind the music industry—the ones you don’t see in the spotlight. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music.Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests. Music by Jim NoirArtwork by Ethan DouglassDistributed by Transistor