Evolving Prisons

Professor Frank Baumgartner is a political scientist who has spent years analysing the death penalty. He tells us about the bigger picture: how factors like the race and gender of a victim can influence who receives a death sentence, how people who win an appeal can be sentenced to death again, the enormous financial costs involved, and the inconsistencies that shape how the system is applied.Kaigan Carrie is a criminologist, exploring what life is really like for prison officers. To follow her work, connect with her below. LinkedIn: ⁠Kaigan Carrie⁠Website: kaigancarrie.com

Professor Scott Sundby is a law professor who has spent more than 30 years studying capital jurors - the ordinary citizens tasked with choosing between a death sentence and life in prison. He takes us inside the jury room to reveal what it’s really like to sit on a capital case, the intense pressures and moral dilemmas jurors face, the regret some carry for years, and how the experience can leave a lasting mark long after the trial ends.Kaigan Carrie is a criminologist, exploring what life is really like for prison officers. To follow her work, connect with her below. LinkedIn: ⁠Kaigan Carrie⁠Website: kaigancarrie.com

Chiara Eisner, an investigative journalist who interviewed 26 execution workers to understand how their work affects them, tells us how she gained access to these workers - despite their identities often being kept secret - how they are selected for these roles, and what she learned about the physical and mental health toll execution work can take on those involved. Kaigan Carrie is a criminologist, exploring what it's really like to be a prison officer. Connect with her below:LinkedIn: ⁠Kaigan Carrie⁠Website: kaigancarrie.com

Dr Joel Zivot, an anaesthesiologist and intensive care medicine doctor, tells us about one of the biggest misconceptions surrounding lethal injection: that it is a painless form of execution. He shares a pattern he discovered while reviewing hundreds of autopsies of people executed by lethal injection - a pattern that challenges what we thought we knew about how lethal injection affects the body, and what that means for how we understand executions.Kaigan Carrie is a criminologist, exploring what it's really like to be a prison officer. Connect with her below:LinkedIn: Kaigan CarrieWebsite: kaigancarrie.com

This is episode 6 of a special 6-part series exploring the mental toll frontline professionals carry as they do vital work to protect all of us.Sean McCallum is a crisis intervention and trauma consultant, and a watch manager in the UK fire service where he's served for 23 years. In this episode, Sean shares his view on why some experiences are traumatic for some individuals but not others, what might cause flashbacks and rumination, and how sleep - or lack there of - can shape how we process trauma.Sean is not a clinician. His perspective comes from a person-centred metapsychological approach.Connect with Kaigan CarrieWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrie

This is episode 5 of a special 6-part series exploring the mental toll frontline professionals carry as they do vital work to protect all of us.Lea Vaughan was a Hazardous Area Response Team paramedic and one of only three medics to treat victims inside the arena during the Manchester Arena bombing in 2017 - the largest casualty she'd ever faced. In this episode, Lea reflects on the night of the attack and the lasting psychological impact. She speaks about the lack of support she received afterwards and the unexpected public backlash she faced, including death threats, as a visible face of the ambulance service. Connect with Kaigan CarrieWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrie

This is episode 4 of a special 6-part series exploring the mental toll frontline professionals carry as they do vital work to protect all of us.Craig Wylde became a prison officer in 2006. Just four years later, at the age of 28, he was stabbed by a prisoner and left with life-changing injuries that forced his medical retirement. In this episode, Craig speaks about the attack and the long, painful process of coming to terms with a new reality. He speaks about the mental toll of the trauma and how, at his lowest point, he contemplated taking his own life. Connect with Kaigan CarrieWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrie

This is episode 3 of a special 6-part series exploring the mental toll frontline professionals carry as they do vital work to protect all of us.Philip Ingram MBE joined the British Army in 1984 and served until 2010, leaving as a colonel. In this episode, he reflects on several difficult moments during his career, particularly his time during the Iraq war in Basra. He speaks about the trauma of losing a close friend, of having to read autopsy reports of soldiers who died, and witnessing distressing images of a helicopter being shot down. He shares the ways in which his mental health was impacted, to the point he carried a suicide kit around with him for years.Connect with Kaigan CarrieWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrie

This is episode 2 of a special 6-part series exploring the mental toll frontline professionals carry as they do vital work to protect all of us.Wayne Campbell joined the police service in Northern Ireland in 2004 and spent much of his career as a detective, including overseeing the family liaison response for some of the country’s most devastating incidents - from homicides and fatal road accidents to mass casualty events. In this episode, Wayne tells us about two of the most defining and harrowing experiences of his career: being attacked by a loyalist terrorist group, and flying to America to tell a mother that her daughter had taken her own life after being targeted online by a man later convicted of child sexual abuse offences.Connect with Kaigan CarrieWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrie

This is episode 1 of a special 6-part series exploring the mental toll frontline professionals carry as they do vital work to protect all of us.James Bull has been a firefighter for 25 years. In 2017, he made the brave decision to speak publicly about his experience of PTSD - a step that led to a three-year journey with a documentary film crew, capturing the mental health realities of the emergency services. In this episode, James tell us about two of the most psychologically difficult incidents of his career: a fatal road accident where he feared one of the casualties was his brother, and attending an incident that involved his own mum’s death. He reflects on how the job has shaped and changed him, and what it’s like to carry the toll of this job with him. Connect with Kaigan CarrieWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrie

Ray and Vi Donovan's son, Chris, was murdered in 2001. They made the extraordinary decision to meet all three of his killers through restorative justice. They tell us about the heartbreak of losing Chris, navigating the justice system and how it felt meeting each of the three boys responsible. Explore the work Ray and Vi are doing through the Chris Donovan Trust.Evolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrie

This is the 100th episode of the podcast! Thank you for listening and supporting these conversations.Sarah Ellis is a barrister and forensic criminologist with a particular interest and specialism in coercive control, stalking and homicide. She explains the concept of the homicide timeline and how coercive control can escalate over time. Why is coercive control still so often misunderstood or overlooked? What needs to change in the way we intervene? And why do perpetrators of coercive control rarely change?Learn more about the homicide timeline here.Evolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrie

Rob McKeon has sat on the parole board in England & Wales since 2012. He's reviewed the cases of over 5,000 prisoners, making decisions on whether they are ready to be released, including those convicted of murder, serious violence and sexual offences. We discuss the biggest signs that a prisoner might be ready to re-enter society, how some prisoners try to sabotage each other’s chances of release, and the emotional weight of making decisions that can change lives forever.You can purchase a copy of Rob's book, Parole, here.Evolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrie

Will Potter is an award winning investigative journalist and author. He delivered a Ted talk about secret prisons in America which received millions of views. We chat about these prisons, called communication management units, how Will was able to enter one and the psychological toll that his work as a journalist has taken on him. Evolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrie

Dr Shahed Yousaf is a GP who works in prison and with the homeless community in England. How is healthcare adapted to reach those without a fixed address? How does he navigate working with imprisoned patients who'd be better served in a mental health facility? What are some of the most surprising things he's seen in prison? And what personal toll has prison work taken on him?You can buy a copy of Dr Yousaf's book, Stitched Up, here. Evolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrie

Paul Cosgrove is a former investment banker who later became a prison officer. He tells us about his experiences working with prisoners convicted of financial crimes, the attitude some of these individuals had towards their crimes, some of the most challenging things Paul has had to deal with and how transitioning from investment banking to prison work changed his views on materialism and success.Evolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrie

Recorded live, this episode features two prison officers who have worked in one of the UK's first community custody units for women. They share their experiences of transitioning from a male high-security prison in Scotland to working in a facility built on the belief that women should be imprisoned in more trauma-informed, community-like conditions. We speak about the contrasts between working in these vastly different establishments, their views on staff corruption, some of the difficult things they've both had to deal with, and how the job has changed them.Evolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrie

Ian West served 35 years in the prison service in England, working in ten prisons and governing four. He tells us about the special secure unit of HMP Belmarsh where he worked with some of the highest-risk prisoners in the country, the difficulties of changing the thinking of some elderly prisoners and what it was like to govern a prison through the Covid-19 pandemic. Evolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrie

Dr Rebecca Myers was a forensic and prison psychologist in England treating prisoners who had committed sexual offences. She is also the author of the book, Inside Job. Of the individuals in society who admit to being sexually attracted to children, why do some people give in to those sexual compulsions when so many others don't? How does she measure success in this line of work? And how does working with people convicted of sexual offences impact staff?Evolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrie

Craig Gottschalk was a wildlife biologist who went on to work in prisons for 12 years, first as a prison officer and finally as assistant director. He is now assistant ombudsman, investigating complaints from people in prison. Craig shares the signs to look out for before somebody becomes violent, taught to him from his days as a biologist. He tells us about an encounter with a former prisoner who threatened to kill Craig and his family, and how a chance meeting in a grocery store showed Craig that he was literally saving lives in prison.Evolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrieEmail me: [email protected]

Luke Mitchell is serving a prison sentence in Scotland for the murder of Jodi Jones. He claims he is innocent and numerous documentaries have aired questioning his guilt. Why do some people think he is innocent? How do the media remain respectful of Jodi's family when reporting on these matters? And how might prison be for Luke, since he doesn't accept he committed this crime? I speak with Naomi Channell, a TV producer and independent true crime podcaster, about her deep-dive into this case on her podcast.Evolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrie

Roughly 20,000 children in Scotland experience parental imprisonment each year. But what unique challenges do families of imprisoned individuals face? How do they navigate the emotional and practical realities of life during the Christmas season? I chat with Professor Nancy Loucks OBE, Chief Executive of Families Outside, to explore how the impact of imprisonment extends far beyond the individual behind bars and affects the lives of those left outside.Evolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrie

Eastern State Penitentiary in Philadelphia, USA, was one of the most famous prisons in the world. How did the prison function in the 19th century and beyond? And how was Christmas celebrated there throughout the centuries? We chat to Damon McCool, the Senior Manager of Programme Development there now that the prison is a tourist site, to find out.Evolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrie

Anne Okkels Birk grew up on the grounds of a prison in Denmark as her dad was a prison governor. She went on to work for the prison service and is now a criminologist. She shares what this experience was like growing up, some of the challenges Danish prisons face, why sending prisoners to Kosovo isn't a good idea and lessons we can learn from the Holocaust and other genocides. Evolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrieEmail me: [email protected] Credit for Anne's picture in the cover art: Bent Dahl Jensen, Café Exit

Leroy Pearson worked as a prison officer in 3 prisons in England. He shares the ways in which his mum going to prison when he was at school shaped his behaviour as an officer, the barriers he faced as a result of his entire immediate family having criminal convictions, and the challenges he had as an ethnic minority prison officer.Connect with LeroyInstagram: @talkwithbiggzEvolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrie

Justin Jones has worked in corrections in America for 47 years and was Director of the Oklahoma Department of Corrections for 8 years. During this time he witnessed 28 executions of people on death row. Who is there when the execution takes place? How did watching these impact him, particularly since he doesn’t believe in the death penalty? How did he get access to the drug required when pharmaceutical companies weren’t providing it? And if it isn’t a medical professional or prison staff member who administers the lethal injection, then who is it? Evolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrieEmail me: [email protected]

I took the podcast to HMP Shrewsbury to interview former prison officer Graham, who has 38 years' experience in the job. He spent many years working at Shrewsbury, a prison that is said to be one of the most haunted in the world. What was it like to work here? How has prison work changed over the decades? CEO of the site, Joel, joins us to share paranormal experiences that have occurred within the prison.You can watch the video version of this podcast here.Video and photo credit: Ice Eye MediaEvolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrieEmail me: [email protected]

Dr Kathryn Whiteley has interviewed hundreds of women who've killed and are serving life or life without parole sentences in America, Australia and Ireland. She shares some stories that have stuck with her, how some of the women feel about their crimes and helps to humanise them by giving them a voice to share their life stories.Evolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrieDr Whiteley's podcast - Self-Identities: Conversations with convicted womenDr Whiteley's documentary - Until We Have Faces: Women serving life

Dr Amanda Brown was a GP in a leafy suburb for 20 years before going to work in prison, despite not knowing doctors even worked in prisons. She spent 19 years working with both male and female prisoners, and foreign nationals. Dr Brown is also the author of The Prison Doctor book series. She shares some highs and lows with us, including traumatic experiences that will stay with her forever, and tells us why working in a prison has shifted her values. Evolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrieEmail me: [email protected]

Tarmi A'Vard is the wife of a prison officer. She talks about how it feels to see her husband, Chris, changed by the job. He was hospitalised on numerous occasions after attacks by prisoners and Tarmi shares the toll the job has taken on their marriage and social life. She also tells us about their difficult road ahead as Chris tries to recover from his experiences. Evolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrieEmail me: [email protected]

How were women treated in prison in America in the early years at a time before they were considered citizens? Why has Alcatraz prison left such a legacy? And why is America's prison system the way it is, when their early plans were to move away from a penal system that brutalises to a more reformative system? Professor Ashley Rubin studies the history of prisons in America and answers these questions for us.Evolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrie

Portia Louder served five years in prison for mortgage fraud. She was imprisoned 14 hours from her husband and children in a federal prison. She was allowed 8 weeks at home before starting her sentence and she tells us about this experience. Portia shares how she navigated seeing her family only once a year and the challenges she's faced reintegrating back into the family unit upon release from prison. Portia has written a book, Born to be Brave, which you can buy here. Evolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrieEmail me: [email protected]

Andy Laidlaw spent 26 years in the prison service in England, starting as a prison officer and finishing as a deputy prison governor. He tells us about his experiences as a hostage negotiator, how to minimise staff corruption and what working in a prison has taught him about life.Evolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrieEmail me: [email protected]

What do you do when a prisoner draws an unnerving picture during class? And how does it impact you when the first thing you see while interviewing for a job in prison is a traumatising event? Steve Tafka was an art teacher in prisons in England for three years and shares some eye-opening experiences with us. You can buy a copy of Steve's book, The Art of Crime, here.Evolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrie

Dr Ben Cave is one of the UK’s leading forensic psychiatrists. He has 35 years of experience, including as a prison psychiatrist and a consultant in secure and general mental health units. He is also the author of What We Fear Most. We discuss misconceptions around mental illness, the fact the Mental Health Act does not apply in prison, and the risk of being a forensic psychiatrist where Dr Cave had a security system linked to the police installed in his home.Buy a copy of Dr Cave's book, What We Fear Most, here.Evolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrieEmail me: [email protected]

Jason worked as a prison officer in both mainstream and sex offender prisons. He tells us about the mental health toll the job takes, whereby three of his colleagues took their own lives. He also talks about how management seeing prison officers as a number can contribute to them feeling undervalued and lacking self-worth, and he shares personal experiences he had of this during his time as an officer.Evolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrie

Oscar Castro was on his third trip to Latin America to smuggle heroin back to America when he was caught at a hotel in Ecuador. He subsequently served 7 years in prison there. What's it like to spend time in a prison where you have to buy your cell and can get access to almost anything, as long as you pay the guards enough money? Is this still punishment? And how does Oscar feel for his part in contributing to the devastating impact drugs have?Oscar Castro's linksYouTube: @globalockdownoscarcastroInstagram: @globallockdownTikTok: @globalockdownEvolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrie

Jamie Morgan Kane spent 34 years in prison in America after walking into his home and finding a deceased man there who his wife had poisoned. Jamie was taken from the UK to America illegally as a baby and he shares how it felt re-adjusting to life in the UK at age 64, when he was deported after release from prison, despite spending almost all of his life overseas. He also tells us how it felt to do things he loved again, after being unable to do them for 34 years during his prison sentence.You can connect with Jamie here and see his creations and artwork.Evolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrie

Recently, the BBC aired a documentary about Andrew Malkinson, an individual from England who was wrongfully convicted of rape and spent 17 years in prison, until he was released in December 2020. Danny Barrs is the Chair of Promoting Prisoners Maintaining Innocence. Danny chats about majority verdicts in jury cases, how it can be difficult for innocent people to progress through prison and the difficulty they can face in obtaining compensation from the state upon their release from prison.Learn more about the BBC documentary here or watch it on BBC iPlayer.Evolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrie

Cage is currently serving a 50 year prison sentence in Texas for aggravated robbery while his wife, Andreea, lives in London. They met in 2020 when Andreea wrote to Cage through writeaprisoner.com. They talk about how their relationship developed and how they maintain it despite the obvious barriers, the stigma attached to meeting and marrying someone in prison and their plans for the future, despite Cage only being 12 years into his sentence. Evolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrie

Chelsea Cameron wrote an open letter to her drug-addicted parents in 2017, thanking them for teaching her that life isn't all sunshine and rainbows. She shares the letter with us and tells us about the stigma of growing up with drug-addicted parents, whether prison helped her dad, and the issue with drugs in Scottish prisons, where 1 in 10 prisoners say they had never touched drugs before their imprisonment but started using them while inside. Evolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrie

William Noguera spent 40 years on death row at San Quentin Prison for a murder he committed at age 18. Last year he was taken off death row but he is still in prison. He chats to us from his prison cell, telling us how a day on death row looked, how it felt to be given an execution date, how he feels about potentially being released one day into a society he hasn't been in for 41 years and how he has stayed disciplined to write books, host podcasts and create art while on death row.William's linksWebsitePodcastYouTubeEvolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrie

Rob Parkes was married to Victoria Breeden. Victoria is now serving a 9 year prison sentence for conspiracy to murder him. Rob speaks about being the victim of coercive control, how Victoria's second husband, Wayne, set fire to Rob's car while he was sleeping and how he discovered that Victoria was trying to hire somebody to kill him. Victoria is up for parole soon and Rob talks about his feelings towards this and whether he thinks prison will rehabilitate someone like her.You can buy a copy of Rob's book here. Rob's story also featured on 24 hours in police custody.Evolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrie

Carl Scott joined a gang at 13 years old and subsequently spent 8 and a half years in prison. He was a victim of a knife attack which almost killed him. Carl chats about how a life of crime leaves you always looking over your shoulder, how prison might seem like a holiday camp but that loss of control is the real punishment, and how he lost his best friend to knife crime, who sadly died in his arms. Carl is now a knife crime ambassador.Carl's linksWebsiteInstagramEvolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrie

Gen was a prison officer in England and had been eager to become one since age 15. She talks about the difficulty of comprehending how some people can be so gentle and kind but also be a human trafficker, how she'd try to educate prisoners convicted of rape that wearing protection doesn't mean it isn't rape and the worry of losing the ability to feel compassion at all after witnessing so much trauma in prison. You can order a copy of Gen's book, The Prison Officer, here. Evolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrie

Why do prisons in California and Texas have so many gangs? Why didn't they exist prior to the 1950s? What happens to somebody who leaves the prison gang? How much influence do prison gangs have over people on the streets? I sat down with Professor David Skarbek who has published extensively on this topic. His book, The Social Order of the Underworld: How Prison Gangs Govern the American Penal System, can be bought here. Evolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrie

Marc Conway has served 10 prison sentences, stuck in the revolving door of crime until his final prison sentence in HMP Grendon, a therapeutic prison in England, made him think about why he'd been behaving the way he had. Marc discusses growing up with a distrust of police and how he feels that the government needs to do more to improve equality in our society.Evolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: kaigancarrie

Iain was a prison officer in Australia for 15 years until 2020. He tells us about a number of experiences he had, from working with a prisoner who was involved in 55 self-harm or behavioural incidents over a 4-month period to a prisoner who was convicted of driving his truck into a bar after being denied alcohol, killing multiple people. Evolving Prisons linksWebsiteInstagramLinkedInIain's videos about his time as a prison officer can be viewed here.

Lee Davies was a prison officer in England and was imprisoned in May 2010 for taking contraband, namely mobile phones and cannabis, into prison for prisoners. Lee tells us how he started taking contraband in, how he got caught, ways to limit corrupt staff taking contraband into prisons and the impact that corrupt staff have on the prison service. Evolving Prisons linksWebsite: evolvingprisons.comInstagram: @evolvingprisonsLinkedIn: Kaigan Carrie

The Strangeways Prison riot is the longest recorded riot in British penal history, lasting 25 days in April 1990. Brendan O'Friel was the governor of the prison at that time. He tells us about the condition of the prison leading up to the riot, how 147 officers and 47 prisoners were injured and 1 officer and 1 prisoner lost their life, how Brendan navigated the riot without a contingency plan for such events in place and the aftermath. Brendan has documented the riot in his book Prison Governor's Journal which you can buy from his ⁠website.⁠ Evolving Prisons links⁠Instagram⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠Website⁠